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how did i miss that one

otfm!

the american presidential primary campaign is just a damn reality show, this is a bad thing, and anybody who actually cares about the primaries at this point is actively making the world a worse place by doing so

that's not a very good argument starter i admit, i will probably just get a halfhearted snide dismissal

― Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Friday, April 5, 2019 8:26 AM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean there's certainly some meat on your assertion but then there's like the alternate of eg letting the party nominate Hubert Humphrey with no popular mandate and effectively handing the election to Nixon.

the worst part of caring about something like the dem primaries is its thorough and complete unsexiness

damn i hated catcher, "what a posing fuckin spoiled a-hole" was my angle, even though my personality type sorta typically tracks his. i should probably re-read it, but he truly pissed me off in junior high so ughh.

Agreed that Holden is an asshole, but not sure why that makes it a bad book, rather that's the whole point of it - he's arrogant and spoiled and horrible to everyone, but ultimately he's just a fucked up lonely kid who doesn't know how to be any different. Think a lot of hate for the book might be people seeing a bit too much of their teenage selves in him.

feel like literature teachers in general do a pretty poor job of putting stuff in context, ie here's why this was important/groundbreaking/etc

I haven't read Catcher in the Rye since high school, but it seems like maybe the appeal was that he was an asshole but also that he was an asshole you could relate to

yup, definitely and that's what tempts me back a little. part of me wonders if some of salinger's styles were incorporated into all post-catcher fiction that i was dealing with and i couldn't see it as a remarkable novel in itself. i just got wrapped up in the implications of some of characters. or maybe it was that i was 14 and immature not really well-read.

I should've related to him but didn't. Raskolnikov on the other hand...

and sorry that definitely was xpost to CAL xpost again

I mean "posing fuckin spoiled a-hole" is a somewhat accurate description of probably myself as a teenager and a lot of other teenagers I knew at the time. It's just part of growing up.

damn i hated catcher, "what a posing fuckin spoiled a-hole" was my angle

the point of the book

or in other words camaraderie otm

as usual i replied before reading the whole conversation it's a great method of posting i recommend it

I've always thought Don Quixote sucks because i'm not an imaginary 16th century Castilian petit bourgeois having a psychotic breakdown for comic effect

the point of the book

Windmills. Jesus Christ. They can drive you crazy. They really can.

judging a book based on whether you relate to the main character or whatever.. not classic

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not trying to diminish your controp brimstead. Just inanely cackling at my own shitposting paedo humour before i go to bed.

hmm i really dont wanna read this to defend my 14 y/o crit skills and furthermore will not, what’s remarkable about it again?

dunno, maybe the bit where rolf tells you about the time he played the wobble board for the queen?

i'm so fucking proud of my thread revive

my controversial opinion is that saying "catcher in the rye" is a good adult book isn't actual a controversial opinion, it just contradicts one of those bits of "received wisdom" that people believe only because it's so obviously wrong. like "whatever does not kill me only makes me stronger", everybody loves to quote that even though it's patently fucking obvious that very frequently whatever doesn't kill you will make you weaker. (i will derail this fucking thread away from "catcher in the rye" if it kills me.)

(i will derail this fucking thread away from "catcher in the rye" if it kills me.)

read that in Kathleen Hanna's voice (sorry anticipation for 120 second song poll)

Just inanely cackling at my own shitposting paedo humour before i go to bed

be fair now, he assaulted women of sexual maturity all the way into their 50s

Oh man I forgot 'new radio' that song slays

controversial opinion: "lol paedo" jokes about people who assault teens and adults are erasure and part of the problem

lol CP

a lot of hate for the book might be people seeing a bit too much of their teenage selves in him

This is known in lit crit circles as Smelt-it-dealt-it-ism.

oh totally my basic original take this poseur douchebag is you is me- that’s not insight IT’S FUCKING OBVIOUS, my lil twin, doppelganger, hypocrtite lecteur!!! 14 y/o Hunt3r says fuck that SADDOS *puts on c-60 with New Day Rising and JFA and minor threat*

Most films should be 90 minutes or less.
Most albums 10 tracks/45 minutes.
Most books 200 pages.

> Most albums 10 tracks/45 minutes.

autechre

Exceptions are permitted. Their track counts are usually pretty tight!

https://www.discogs.com/Gescom-Minidisc/release/43153

Most films should be 90 minutes or less.

god i long for this

peter jackson, so much to answer for

Pretty sure the only controversial opinion along these lines is 'video games should be shorter and emphasize quality over quantity'.

Jazz albums should be 5-6 tracks/40-45 minutes.
Autechre would be better if their albums were only 45 minutes long, and I say that as someone who bought that 8CD NTS Sessions box and loves it.
Books can go as long as 300 pages; after that, you're mostly just jerking off.

Most films should be 90 minutes or less.
Most albums 10 tracks/45 minutes.

OTM on films. Albums should be under 40 minutes or GTFO.

I tend to gravitate to long books. But books worth reading are extreme outliers, and so what's true of 'most' doesn't necessarily apply.

OTM on films. Albums should be under 40 minutes or GTFO.

I almost put 40 but Violator is my idea of a perfectly timed album and it's 47, couldn't go too far under that.

xxp
tell that to Anthony Braxton whose latest release is almost 11 hours long of "Ghost Trance Music" - weird experimental vocal music in plain speak!

Ach I hate these hard-rules for running times
Books films albums can be as long or as short as they need to be but their length (or brevity) should always be justified
In general most albums longer than 40 minutes feel too long to me, for sure

Ach I hate these hard-rules for running times
Books films albums can be as long or as short as they need to be but their length (or brevity) should always be justified

I'm not advocating for cutting down Godfather II or anything but good christ fuck LoTR and Harry Potter for every comic book movie w/an hours worth of plot being bloated up to 2.5 hours

yep

"Night mode" is useful and worthwhile in the context of coding in an IDE or text editor and utterly masturbatory in every other app/website/entire OS.

Dang, white on black is so much more pleasant to me.. can't imagine ilxing without it

Most films should be 90 minutes or less.
Most albums 10 tracks/45 minutes.
Most books 200 pages.

― what if bod was one of us (ledge), Monday, April 15, 2019 8:45 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Most of these things just straight-up shouldn't exist in the first place, is my controp.

Roasted root vegetables are played out. I’m sick of that shit. Bring me a tomato for god’s sake.

Fuck a tomato