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C J (C J), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 08:21 (nineteen years ago) link

i believe the subwoofer should be destroyed and banned forevermore

Queen G (Queeng), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 08:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Bright Eyes is one of my favorite bands.

bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 08:39 (nineteen years ago) link

If we were in 30's Berlin we'd all be Nazi's.

Sylvestre, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 13:58 (nineteen years ago) link

oil spills are good for the environment -- they're jsut something to keep it on it's toes (and it's had it way too easy of late if you ask me)

Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link

By the time I finish this sentance, three children will have died of starvation. Food worldwide is too expensive. Solution - eat the dead children.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:01 (nineteen years ago) link

some nights the moon is actually so close you cd reach out and touch it

but don't, as its surface temperature is zero kelvin and yr fingers wd shatter into an icy dust

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Bobby Brown is the king of R&B.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Keanu Reeves is perfectly cast in both Much Ado About Nothing and Dracula.

Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link

You should have 3 C's or above at A-level in order to get into ANY university course. No exceptions.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I fucking rule!

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link

That story in the New York Times about some universities (University of Georgia?) giving out scholarships to rich kids who already have big, fat college funds & parents who earn over 200 000$US/yr & have achieved a dazzling B average....perfectly justified.

*cough*

Miss Laura, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Kittens are so All-American

Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link

2002 is the best year for music EVER thanks to the Von Downbeats, the Music, the Noise, the Light, the Tapes, the Buses and the Damnable Atrophies!

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Avril Lavigne is the greatest star in music today.

Graham (graham), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Avril lavigne is carrying on with sonic youth's good work in mixing rock and avant garde influences.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:46 (nineteen years ago) link

"It's very naughty of me, but I would like to set an examination paper at Dover, and turn back every tourist who couldn't pass it."

"What would you ask us?"

Miss Lavis laid her hand pleasantly on Lucy's arm, as if to suggest that she, at all events, would get full marks."

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Vanessa Carlton is the new Prince!

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think Robert DiNiro's bits in Godfather II are necessary or an improvement on the movie.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link

The 2002 World Cup suffered from bribery of officials.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh shit, with these two posts I forgot that I had to BELIEVE them!

OK, then, something I DO believe; Derek Bailey will have a number one single before this decade's out.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Non-United States nationals who bitch about how their country is so much better than the U.S. should take a few minutes and consider why so many of their compatriots want to live and work here.

j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:49 (nineteen years ago) link

The Sopranos really is the most overrated pile of dreary cack.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link

michael keaton was mesmerizing in "multiplicity" *

*does this controversial opinion necessarily have to be mine?

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link

''OK, then, something I DO believe; Derek Bailey will have a number one single before this decade's out.''

that's something I WANT to believe.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link

hiv might not cause aids
in jokes are not jokes

boxcubed (boxcubed), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link

None of these opinions are controversial (including this one).

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 16:12 (nineteen years ago) link

it is difficult to discern which stoops to more decrepid methods of pimping it's own putresent ass - lord of the rings or missy elliot.

Queen G (Queeng), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Tom Ewing's pro-pop anti-indie stance is a phase.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I envy almost everyone on ILE who I claim to dislike.

AND WHAT ANDREW SAID!!

Mark C (Mark C), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link

(dunno if I already posted this, but I thought I'd better rephrase)

The people who sometimes annoy me on ILE are on the whole the ones whose talents I most envy.

AND WHAT ANDREW SAID!!

Mark C (Mark C), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link

The 'pro-pop' stance seems like more of an excuse for intellectual dishonesty every day.

maura (maura), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 17:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Ouch. There's a lot of pop I'm utterly unthrilled by, but that seems harsh.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 17:22 (nineteen years ago) link

The American government faked the 1969 Moon landing

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

"Disabled people are paying for their sins in a past life"

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link

the last part of subject line questions aren't worth reading

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 19:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Vanilla Coke just tastes like cream soda.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 19:23 (nineteen years ago) link

* Vanilla Coke tastes just like cream soda.
* Coal Gray is better than black.
* Mail should be delivered on Sundays.
* Private schools should be made illegal to bring money back in to the public school system.
* Down with the Death Penalty!
* Freaks and Geeks was one of the top 5 TV shows ever.
* Billy Corgan looked better with hair.
* Turkey should no longer be the focus of Thanksgiving dinner. The 'side' dishes are far better than the main dish (sweet potato casserole mmm...).
* A Dog, though cute, will never make as good of a pet as a cat.
* Having children in hopes of continuing your own legacy is selfish.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

What? Can't handle my opinions, huh?? Everyone in shock?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 19:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I approve of Michael Jackson dangling his child out of a window. More parents should follow his example.

Andrew L (Andrew L), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I approve of Michael Jackson eating his young in front of a live audience. More parents should follow his example.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 20:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Compulsory medical testing and research should be carried out on prison inmates. I like the thought that a serial rapist or murderer could be used as a guinea-pig in helping to find the cure for cancer.

C J (C J), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link

it is difficult to discern which stoops to more decrepid methods of pimping it's own putresent ass - lord of the rings or missy elliot.

I believe the Harry Potter industry is even more guilty of this.

j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 20:17 (nineteen years ago) link

"* Billy Corgan looked better with hair."

But he DID!

Curtis Stephens, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 20:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I know I'm going to get a lot of flack on this, especially at this time of year, but...I don't think that sweet potatoes/yams are fit for human consumption. Even topped with marshmallows.

j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 20:29 (nineteen years ago) link

It all seems funny, kinda like a dream, things ain't always what they seem.

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think that sweet potatoes/yams are fit for human consumption
That's ok.
I am a food connoisseur. It's so hard for me to relate with the common folk!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I have moments when I think the death penalty might not be a terrible idea. It sometimes seems really expensive and, well, fundamentally perverse to incarcerate someone for life or even for a decade or two.

I don't have a firm opinion on whether abortion should be legal. I've yet to see a totally convincing pro-choice argument (not that I've been reading in depth). My main reason for being sort of pro-choice is that it's a controversial topic and since I don't have a firm decided opinion I want to leave it up to personal choice.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The Muppet Show was more annoying than anything else.

Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 22:40 (nineteen years ago) link

George W. Bush is a big poopy-head.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 22:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Just to tie everything together, did people know that an adaptation of Lord of the Rings starring the Beatles was suggested at one point?

Paul as Frodo
Ringo as Sam
John as Gandalf
George as Strider

I said something positive about the lyrics to "Carouselambra" above!

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 20:08 (one year ago) link

omg lock thread

Fauna Sukkot (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 20:12 (one year ago) link

It rings a bell but I might be thinking of ringo as larry the dwarf in 200 motels.

Fauna Sukkot (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 20:13 (one year ago) link

anyone arguing that the beatles aren't shit at this point are melts. I've done extensive research on this subject and am completely correct. comments are closed.

Compelling tbh

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 20:15 (one year ago) link

Well, this is a thread for controversy after all

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 20:26 (one year ago) link

I can't recall anyone ever having anything positive to say about their lyrics.

"Rock and Roll" is an effective and subtle portrait of a failing marriage.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 20:42 (one year ago) link

"Sick Again" is a heartfelt depiction of the difficulty of dealing with recurrent illness.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 20:44 (one year ago) link

"'immigrant song' that's where i'm a viking!"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 20:45 (one year ago) link

People putting down Plant's Tolkien lyrics should give a listen to the Humble Pie record I have on:

"Lord, sometimes... ya make me feel so bad!
Sometimes... ya make me feel so sad!"

By the standards of the era and the genre, he wasn't egregious.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 20:47 (one year ago) link

it do be like that tho

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 21:40 (one year ago) link

the bo hansson lord of rings album fucking rules

brimstead, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 22:42 (one year ago) link

sorry not a controversial op

brimstead, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 22:42 (one year ago) link

Yeah but it's instrumental, if he'd called it "A Trip Along The Waterways Of Sweden" or whatever people would be raving about how much it sounds like fjords. Does rule though, whatever it's about.

the kim variant (Matt #2), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 22:57 (one year ago) link

Are the various Swedish concept albums about Moomins (e.g. peter Lundblad and Trobjorn Ekelund) nursery rhyme shit or epic fantasy shit?

Fauna Sukkot (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 23:29 (one year ago) link

I have one that's kund of jazzy vocal music, it's pretty good

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 1 July 2021 00:01 (one year ago) link

I have that one too, it sounds a bit like Dungen. And i think a third one in addition to "vem ska trosta knyttet"

Fauna Sukkot (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 1 July 2021 00:13 (one year ago) link

The one you linked is the best of the 3

Fauna Sukkot (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 1 July 2021 00:13 (one year ago) link

Not ta det lugnt but later dungen

Fauna Sukkot (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 1 July 2021 00:14 (one year ago) link

Like vince guaraldi peanuts meets dungen

Fauna Sukkot (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 1 July 2021 00:16 (one year ago) link

Ha, I can kind of see that

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 1 July 2021 00:17 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

norm macdonald was okay

mookieproof, Thursday, 16 September 2021 01:11 (ten months ago) link

Not a controversial opinion

beard papa, Thursday, 16 September 2021 05:54 (ten months ago) link

Norm macdonald was very funny, but ilxors are in denial about what he was really like personally, and seem to be happy to ignore his sexual assaults.

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 16 September 2021 14:11 (ten months ago) link

his sexual assaults

Got a link? My own searches turn up nothing.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 16 September 2021 14:19 (ten months ago) link

Fuckin thank you. I hadn't heard any of the sexual assault stories but that clip of him on Conan where he mauls Courtney Thorne-Smith as an explicit gesture of sexual power/dominance over the Conan because he knows they both find her attractive and Norm wants to get there first, was so repulsive. (Later in the segment, he interrupts Conan's questioning of CTS to make himself the center of attention a bunch of times including insulting fat people and a premature ejaculation joke iirc--I shut it off at that point.)

I never watched any show or thing that Norm MacDonald was on so I have no attachment to him, so maybe it's easy for me to say but...fuck that guy.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 16 September 2021 14:20 (ten months ago) link

Norm McDonald stuck his hand down my pants and groped my ass 10 years ago when I asked for a picture with him.

— Molly (of no relation to fun drug) (@Mollyissilly) September 14, 2021

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 16 September 2021 14:21 (ten months ago) link

This happened to my sister in law and the creep was Norm MacDonald. True story.

— Josh Fairhurst (@LimitedRunJosh) June 23, 2020

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 16 September 2021 14:22 (ten months ago) link

Yeah, that stuff has been saddening to read about. The Brandon Teena joke too.

jmm, Thursday, 16 September 2021 14:22 (ten months ago) link

Yeah, even among the more scathing postmortems I haven't heard anything about that.

Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 September 2021 14:22 (ten months ago) link

Norm MacDonald casually confessing to sexual assault in an interview that brought no further attention to it is a reminder that #MeToo was badly needed. Being famous and funny makes it all too easy for men to get away with this shit. pic.twitter.com/ID7Z294uJi

— Wet Silk (@Fractalmatic) September 15, 2021

Norm Macdonald on Louis C.K. & Roseanne Barr: "There are very few people that have gone through what they have, losing everything in a day. Of course, people will go, 'What about the victims?' But you know what? The victims didn't have to go through that" https://t.co/w6OeRcEO77

— The Hollywood Reporter (@THR) September 11, 2018

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 16 September 2021 14:23 (ten months ago) link

Norm MacDonald was always fucking gross

talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Thursday, 16 September 2021 16:34 (ten months ago) link

I have one that's kund of jazzy vocal music, it's pretty good


thought it was about norm McDonald for a second

brimstead, Thursday, 16 September 2021 16:47 (ten months ago) link

The Many Moods of Norm McDonald

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 September 2021 16:49 (ten months ago) link

the post-Gram Flying Burrito Bros’ “Tried So Hard” is considerably better than Gene’s (which is still obv classic no arg there)

caddy lac brougham? (will), Thursday, 16 September 2021 19:04 (ten months ago) link

guess there’s probably a better thread for this Controversial Opinion on ilm

caddy lac brougham? (will), Thursday, 16 September 2021 19:06 (ten months ago) link

Not that controversial either tbh.

How does Spock's brain come into this? (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 September 2021 19:16 (ten months ago) link

(i.e. I agree with you)

How does Spock's brain come into this? (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 September 2021 19:16 (ten months ago) link

Post a controversial music opinion

visiting, Thursday, 16 September 2021 19:26 (ten months ago) link

four months pass...

All comedy podcasts are bad except ones with Andy Daly.

Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 18:22 (six months ago) link

first two seasons of The Simpsons are dogshit

Buchiko and The Man (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 January 2022 14:48 (six months ago) link

Ohhhh no, S2 is prob my favourite

flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 23 January 2022 15:10 (six months ago) link

I can't vibe with the wrong Homer voice or heart warming character development

Buchiko and The Man (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 January 2022 15:14 (six months ago) link

Bojack Horseman >>> The Simpsons

boxedjoy, Monday, 24 January 2022 11:54 (six months ago) link

Seriously? Isn’t it like Archer with a horse head?

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 24 January 2022 12:13 (six months ago) link

no not at all!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 24 January 2022 13:39 (six months ago) link

Yeah it’s much much worse than Archer.

Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 24 January 2022 13:53 (six months ago) link

> first two seasons of The Simpsons are dogshit

was this prompted by channel 4 yesterday afternoon? i watched the dead putting society episode and enjoyed it, even if the tone was a bit odd.

did enjoy him mixing up jack niklaus / nicholson. i feel later episodes someone would've drawn more attention to that rather than it being a single line.

koogs, Monday, 24 January 2022 13:54 (six months ago) link

S1 Simpsons, I'd always filed it away as "unwatchable" (I think I had a hate-on for those episodes when they aired as re-runs and it was prior to me having any concept of "seasons of the Simpsons"), but on re-watch they are much better than I remember (except the babysitter episode)

S2 Simpsons is great because the characters are still in their expositions and some of well-worn tropes are absent or in their nascent stages

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 24 January 2022 21:32 (six months ago) link

when i did a rewatch 10 years ago i was surprised at how many episodes that I assumed were from golden years seasons were actually from season 1

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 24 January 2022 21:50 (six months ago) link


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