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C J (C J), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 08:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

i believe the subwoofer should be destroyed and banned forevermore

Queen G (Queeng), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 08:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

Bright Eyes is one of my favorite bands.

bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 08:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

If we were in 30's Berlin we'd all be Nazi's.

Sylvestre, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 13:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

oil spills are good for the environment -- they're jsut something to keep it on it's toes (and it's had it way too easy of late if you ask me)

Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 13:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

By the time I finish this sentance, three children will have died of starvation. Food worldwide is too expensive. Solution - eat the dead children.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

some nights the moon is actually so close you cd reach out and touch it

but don't, as its surface temperature is zero kelvin and yr fingers wd shatter into an icy dust

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Bobby Brown is the king of R&B.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Keanu Reeves is perfectly cast in both Much Ado About Nothing and Dracula.

Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

You should have 3 C's or above at A-level in order to get into ANY university course. No exceptions.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

I fucking rule!

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

That story in the New York Times about some universities (University of Georgia?) giving out scholarships to rich kids who already have big, fat college funds & parents who earn over 200 000$US/yr & have achieved a dazzling B average....perfectly justified.

*cough*

Miss Laura, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Kittens are so All-American

Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

2002 is the best year for music EVER thanks to the Von Downbeats, the Music, the Noise, the Light, the Tapes, the Buses and the Damnable Atrophies!

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Avril Lavigne is the greatest star in music today.

Graham (graham), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Avril lavigne is carrying on with sonic youth's good work in mixing rock and avant garde influences.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

"It's very naughty of me, but I would like to set an examination paper at Dover, and turn back every tourist who couldn't pass it."

"What would you ask us?"

Miss Lavis laid her hand pleasantly on Lucy's arm, as if to suggest that she, at all events, would get full marks."

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Vanessa Carlton is the new Prince!

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't think Robert DiNiro's bits in Godfather II are necessary or an improvement on the movie.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

The 2002 World Cup suffered from bribery of officials.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh shit, with these two posts I forgot that I had to BELIEVE them!

OK, then, something I DO believe; Derek Bailey will have a number one single before this decade's out.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Non-United States nationals who bitch about how their country is so much better than the U.S. should take a few minutes and consider why so many of their compatriots want to live and work here.

j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Sopranos really is the most overrated pile of dreary cack.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

michael keaton was mesmerizing in "multiplicity" *

*does this controversial opinion necessarily have to be mine?

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 15:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

''OK, then, something I DO believe; Derek Bailey will have a number one single before this decade's out.''

that's something I WANT to believe.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 15:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

hiv might not cause aids
in jokes are not jokes

boxcubed (boxcubed), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 15:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

None of these opinions are controversial (including this one).

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 16:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

it is difficult to discern which stoops to more decrepid methods of pimping it's own putresent ass - lord of the rings or missy elliot.

Queen G (Queeng), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 16:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

Tom Ewing's pro-pop anti-indie stance is a phase.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 16:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

I envy almost everyone on ILE who I claim to dislike.

AND WHAT ANDREW SAID!!

Mark C (Mark C), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 16:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

(dunno if I already posted this, but I thought I'd better rephrase)

The people who sometimes annoy me on ILE are on the whole the ones whose talents I most envy.

AND WHAT ANDREW SAID!!

Mark C (Mark C), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 16:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

The 'pro-pop' stance seems like more of an excuse for intellectual dishonesty every day.

maura (maura), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 17:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ouch. There's a lot of pop I'm utterly unthrilled by, but that seems harsh.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 17:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

The American government faked the 1969 Moon landing

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 17:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Disabled people are paying for their sins in a past life"

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 17:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

the last part of subject line questions aren't worth reading

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 19:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

Vanilla Coke just tastes like cream soda.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 19:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

* Vanilla Coke tastes just like cream soda.
* Coal Gray is better than black.
* Mail should be delivered on Sundays.
* Private schools should be made illegal to bring money back in to the public school system.
* Down with the Death Penalty!
* Freaks and Geeks was one of the top 5 TV shows ever.
* Billy Corgan looked better with hair.
* Turkey should no longer be the focus of Thanksgiving dinner. The 'side' dishes are far better than the main dish (sweet potato casserole mmm...).
* A Dog, though cute, will never make as good of a pet as a cat.
* Having children in hopes of continuing your own legacy is selfish.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 19:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

What? Can't handle my opinions, huh?? Everyone in shock?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 19:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

I approve of Michael Jackson dangling his child out of a window. More parents should follow his example.

Andrew L (Andrew L), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 19:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

I approve of Michael Jackson eating his young in front of a live audience. More parents should follow his example.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 20:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Compulsory medical testing and research should be carried out on prison inmates. I like the thought that a serial rapist or murderer could be used as a guinea-pig in helping to find the cure for cancer.

C J (C J), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 20:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

it is difficult to discern which stoops to more decrepid methods of pimping it's own putresent ass - lord of the rings or missy elliot.

I believe the Harry Potter industry is even more guilty of this.

j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 20:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

"* Billy Corgan looked better with hair."

But he DID!

Curtis Stephens, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 20:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

I know I'm going to get a lot of flack on this, especially at this time of year, but...I don't think that sweet potatoes/yams are fit for human consumption. Even topped with marshmallows.

j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 20:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

It all seems funny, kinda like a dream, things ain't always what they seem.

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 20:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't think that sweet potatoes/yams are fit for human consumption
That's ok.
I am a food connoisseur. It's so hard for me to relate with the common folk!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 20:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have moments when I think the death penalty might not be a terrible idea. It sometimes seems really expensive and, well, fundamentally perverse to incarcerate someone for life or even for a decade or two.

I don't have a firm opinion on whether abortion should be legal. I've yet to see a totally convincing pro-choice argument (not that I've been reading in depth). My main reason for being sort of pro-choice is that it's a controversial topic and since I don't have a firm decided opinion I want to leave it up to personal choice.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 22:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Muppet Show was more annoying than anything else.

Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 22:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

George W. Bush is a big poopy-head.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 22:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have a box of coins in my closet that's overflowing

Every few years I'll take some down to one of the CoinStar machines at the grocery store, and it feels like I've hit the big jackpot even though it's my own money lol (minus whatever fee they deduct)

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 13 April 2023 18:39 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Someone should create a specialty airline where no persons under 10 are admitted on the plane. And seats on flights that do include children under 10 should be heavily discounted.

No offense to all the ilx parents. I actually really like kids, generally speaking. I'm just a bit grumpy because I just returned from a work trip and a little Tuvan throat-singing toddler shrieked and caterwauled throughout the entire six hour flight home. Flying is stressful enough as it is and some of us just want to sleep

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 20 July 2023 21:38 (one year ago) link

Two airlines already offer child-free zones:
https://www.airlineratings.com/news/child-free-zones-which-airlines-guarantee-a-child-free-flight/

Gotta admit, one of the best gifts I ever received was a set of noise-cancelling headphones.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 20 July 2023 21:44 (one year ago) link

I would like adult free zones tbh

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 July 2023 21:46 (one year ago) link

Statistically speaking, most crimes against humanity gave been committed by adults. Just sayin.

Exit, pursued by a beer (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 20 July 2023 22:29 (one year ago) link

id accept the point and counter by saying they couldve been prevented by drowning them as six year olds

Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 July 2023 22:45 (one year ago) link

well at least they got to experience kindergarten

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 July 2023 22:53 (one year ago) link

you could say

🕶️

they didnt make the grade YEAOWWWW

😎

Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 July 2023 22:55 (one year ago) link

LOL, D.

Ponzi, firstly I don't think this can in any way be classed as a controversial opinion.

Secondly, perhaps a little compassion is in order as well as a short self-check on why you take a child's cry so personally.

Most importantly, are you suggesting an airline that has flights with passengers exclusively under 10 years old? I would happily steward these flights.

Further, are you also suggesting anyone 10 and older won't make a ruckus? I've seen more evidence of middle-aged adults causing mayhem than small children whose cries both can't be helped and can easily be made a non-issue by fellow passengers with earplugs and the aforementioned noise-canceling headphones.

But who are we doing it versus? (sunny successor), Thursday, 20 July 2023 23:04 (one year ago) link

I fairly recently had (what I presume was) an autistic boy in front of me who constantly, violently rocked his seat, so much that coffee spilled

I have the patience of Job, however, and I could see that his family tried to calm him on occasion, but I'm 6'1" and airplane seats already suck for tall people

But generally I don't care about caterwauling waifs, it takes a village

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 20 July 2023 23:21 (one year ago) link

Andy, weirdly, my disabled kid (not autistic but autism-adjacent) has always been a delight on planes as long as he was fed constant digital crack.

The only time we had a tough kid/plane experience was with my (neurotypical) eldest, who was 18 months old (and getting over an ear infection). She made periodic mewling cries of agony from approximately Kansas City to Las Vegas. We apologized as much as possible and did all we could, but ultimately there was nothing to be done. Most folks were decently understanding. But when we got to our destination we overheard a dude on his phone saying "yeah there was a baby crying the whole flight."

Sorry you couldn't travel from DC to Oregon in a hermetically sealed luxury chamber, my dude. Airline travel in this century is a hive of germs and misery and inconvenience for almost everyone. If you want perfect peace and quiet, rent your own jet.

Exit, pursued by a beer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 21 July 2023 00:38 (one year ago) link

sunny successor your “firstly” humorously contradicts your “secondly” and furthermores.

But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Friday, 21 July 2023 11:03 (one year ago) link

Im a serial (and cereal!) contradictor. It's true.

But who are we doing it versus? (sunny successor), Friday, 21 July 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link

Cereal contradictor = Cheerios / Gloomios

Exit, pursued by a beer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 21 July 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link

so in choir class, Freshmen were usually hazed when we rehearsed in the Color Guard room. the seniors would usually grab one of them and put them in the closet and lock it

weird! at my school the chess team did this

I was picked up and thrown into a garbage can once, and I had a sign on my back that said "My pussy smells like dried apples."

well, fuck

Yet, they do not get wedgied or shoved into lockers or trashcans.

i meant when i was in school (20+ years ago), but a lot of the jr/high school tropes you'd see on tv didn't apply so idk?

i do get the sense that kids these days are more sheltered and spend less time away from their parents, it would follow that they're less assertive and aggressive. you're right that the Biff archetype from Back to the Future didn't grow up to be the pathetic loser who doesn't know how to conduct himself, he's an elder stateaman now. This is the fucked up alternate universe that Michael J Fox would have averted. does that mean it's less discouraged, or is bullying more covert now? it used to be hidden in plain sight from adults.

all this time I thought you were British (Deflatormouse), Friday, 21 July 2023 19:17 (one year ago) link

But when we got to our destination we overheard a dude on his phone saying "yeah there was a baby crying the whole flight."


this sounds like a pretty gentle gripe considering. I truly empathize with parents in that situation, but it sucks to be around and I wouldn't fault a person for blowing off a little steam afterward where they probably didn't realize they were near the parent.

beard papa, Friday, 21 July 2023 19:20 (one year ago) link

wrong thread lol

all this time I thought you were British (Deflatormouse), Friday, 21 July 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link

xp

all this time I thought you were British (Deflatormouse), Friday, 21 July 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link

In approximately 1981 I was picked up and shoved headfirst into a garbage can. Repeatedly. I have gotten over it but not forgotten it.

My children have never experienced anything like this. And, I can say with reasonable confidence they never will.

These days, kids have significantly more subtle ways to undermine and/or victimize one another. I don't fear a call from the school saying that someone beat up my kid on the playground.

My fears are more like doxxing, deepfakes, online brigading, and backchannel Discord ostracizing.

Exit, pursued by a beer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 21 July 2023 19:45 (one year ago) link

You get shoved in a 1981 trash can and it's over, it's done.. it may leave a scar but it's done

Some of this online shit will be around to haunt you for years to come

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 21 July 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link

There is definitely thread drift afoot here but yeah, Andy speaks truth here.

Exit, pursued by a beer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 21 July 2023 20:04 (one year ago) link

it's my fault, i wrote a reply in keep notes and pasted it into the wrong thread.

all this time I thought you were British (Deflatormouse), Friday, 21 July 2023 20:08 (one year ago) link

i'll quote the above posts in the appropriate thread

all this time I thought you were British (Deflatormouse), Friday, 21 July 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link

Podcasts should come pre-eq’d to sound like AM radio broadcasts

brimstead, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 23:26 (eleven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Summer doesn't end at Labor Day weekend, it ends on September 21st

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 11 August 2023 21:07 (eleven months ago) link

Not controversial here. For example, Christina Rossetti's poem In the Bleak Midwinter is set near the winter solstice. By the same token, Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream takes place on the night of summer solstice. Thus we are reminded that for most of the past centuries, summertime ended on the autumnal equinox at September 21st, which was also when winter began.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 11 August 2023 21:31 (eleven months ago) link

Summer doesn’t end until October here

Chevy Chase drumming mystery (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 11 August 2023 21:36 (eleven months ago) link

in a few years...it will never end.

ack! i just scared myself...

scott seward, Friday, 11 August 2023 21:45 (eleven months ago) link

I guess it's more of an American mindset that I'm talking about.. mostly with the traditional 'back to school' blitz. But public schools here in Oakland started on Monday Aug 7th
Unthinkably early when I was a kid

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 11 August 2023 21:57 (eleven months ago) link

Kids should go to school 24/7/365.

Jeff, Friday, 11 August 2023 23:32 (eleven months ago) link

I'm not sure when summer ends in Montana but I'm pretty sure it'll be snowing by Halloween.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 11 August 2023 23:58 (eleven months ago) link

School should def be year round with more breaks instead of huge summer chunk.

Cow_Art, Saturday, 12 August 2023 02:13 (eleven months ago) link

Charter schools do this. If you're willing to sell your soul, of course.

Esteemed character actress (sunny successor), Friday, 18 August 2023 20:43 (eleven months ago) link

three months pass...

I think I've only posted on this thread once or twice. "Controversial" makes it sound like you're impressed with yourself...I'd rather just stick with the idea that it's an opinion you suspect is shared by very few other people. With that in mind, I think House of Cards (American version, with the discredited actor) is a much more compelling show about devious people than Succession. I don't know if either takes itself very seriously, but of the two, House of Cards is even trashier, which is reassuring on that front.

clemenza, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 02:20 (seven months ago) link

Now post your baseball opinions!

H.P, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 02:29 (seven months ago) link

I couldn't get through House of Cards. we watched the first season and it just got increasingly stupid and we gave up on it at the beginning of S2, around the time Kevin Spacey pushes that journalist in front of a train and somehow nobody notices. we were just like come on this is absolute bollocks.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 09:12 (seven months ago) link

kevin spacey might be able to act but he has never demonstrated it

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 10:41 (seven months ago) link

House of Cards (US) was ok, some parts were excellent, some were embarrassing (the train-pushing, agreed), the music was maybe the best part.

House of Cards Trilogy (UK) on last rewatch piled it on a bit thick TBH, still very much better than the US remake IMO though.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 13:01 (seven months ago) link

found that also unwatchable

from irish character on tbh, read into that what you will

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 13:34 (seven months ago) link

Tru Blood’s “I’m a fairy?” moment, House Of Cards pushing Kate Mara in front of a subway, Homeland’s second season, the early 2010s were the heyday of trashTV not knowing the difference between “this is fun” and “this is stupid”

spider alert: 🕷️🕷️ (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 13:41 (seven months ago) link

scandal knew how to do it but it never tried to have it both ways which is crucial imo

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 13:56 (seven months ago) link

I remember enjoying House of Cards (US) for a while, it was trashy in a good way. Kind of seemed like a fun caricature of US politics a bit like Veep was. But by the time he became president there didn't seem to be much of a point to this show anymore so I think I quit sometime in the 3rd season.

silverfish, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 14:54 (seven months ago) link

I think the main reason I like it so much is all the memorable peripheral characters, beyond the Underwoods. I could name at least a dozen, some of whom are only there for a short time.

clemenza, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 15:41 (seven months ago) link

kevin spacey might be able to act but he has never demonstrated it

― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, December 12, 2023 5:41 AM bookmarkflaglink

I once wasted about $100 to see him in Eugene O'Neill's Moon for the Misbegotten, where he played Jim Tyrone like Keyzer Soze

STUPID CRAP FACE (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 15:45 (seven months ago) link

My cousin and his wife, major theatergoers, still rave about his performance in The Iceman Cometh when they saw it in London about 25 years ago.

stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 15:57 (seven months ago) link

five months pass...

I support recording to expose wrongdoing, but it seems to have inadvertently taught abusive, manipulative people how to surveil each other for their own cheap clout and gains.

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 20:00 (one month ago) link

decentralized social media isn't at its core a bad idea

beard papa, Friday, 7 June 2024 23:44 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

Neuroscience is just astrology for bros

budo jeru, Sunday, 23 June 2024 20:09 (four weeks ago) link

co-sign

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 23 June 2024 23:30 (four weeks ago) link


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