like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

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Left hand, right hand, it's all the same...

Mark G, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link

don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing when posting very important polprof nuance about wanking on twitter.

calzino, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

'I would rather lose than win on a false promise,' says Rishi Sunak

not a problem, rishi sunak

conrad, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link

lol, he's trying to appeal to the innate sense of decency of the Tory party membership

calzino, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

Wildcat strike at Grangemouth oil refinery in Scotland #HotStrikeSummer https://t.co/FwuBTJYs1b

— libcom.org (@libcomorg) August 10, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 22:12 (one year ago) link

as shit as everything is rn (and after my next fucking from British Gas I've got no money for 8 days❌💵) but I love it that strikes have come back. And even the wankers on the r4 media show are asking questions about how innit funny how Mick Lynch by just not folding to idiotic questions makes us all look like moral derelicts who are so far out of step with real people we will eventually end up getting murdered on the the streets the way things are going.

calzino, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 22:32 (one year ago) link

What a revolting congealment of grifting mediocrities. pic.twitter.com/v3S2lTPrJX

— Miffy (@miffythegamer) August 10, 2022

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Thursday, 11 August 2022 07:35 (one year ago) link

8 hours of people saying you can't say anything

nashwan, Thursday, 11 August 2022 08:39 (one year ago) link

there's been some kind of awful mistake with that poster because instead of featuring 'leading lights of british politics' it's actually a bunch of the worst cunts this collapsing nation has to offer

hope they correct this embarrassing mistake soon

built like a kit malthouse (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 August 2022 09:27 (one year ago) link

sad to see them taking advantage of that kind old man Peter Hitchens' good nature

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 11 August 2022 09:34 (one year ago) link

Shaun Bailey relegated to the third row down, where did it all go wrong?

terry and june as hauntological relic (Matt #2), Thursday, 11 August 2022 09:45 (one year ago) link

also Baroness Fox of Buckley is now less of a headline act than Ben Bradley, that's what too much bbc exposure does for your career. You need to get there -1h to catch the Hitchens slot.

calzino, Thursday, 11 August 2022 10:00 (one year ago) link

maybe Ben will be talking about how to be a canny social media operator while still being mindful of one's duties and responsibilities as a public representative

On the 19th of February I made a defamatory statement about @jeremycorbyn. I have apologised to Mr Corbyn and here is the complete text of my apology. Please retweet. pic.twitter.com/6JZc8O9E82

— Cllr Ben Bradley MP (@BBradley_Mans) February 24, 2018

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 11 August 2022 10:06 (one year ago) link

the state of these fucking muppets, i swear to god

Labours Steve Reed rules out taking the energy companies into public ownership: "nationalising companies costs an awful lot of money"

The TUC have said nationalising the big 5 energy retailers would cost £2.8bn, which is how much the govt spent on bailing out just one (Bulb) pic.twitter.com/nXDyxovYe3

— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) August 11, 2022

built like a kit malthouse (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 August 2022 13:34 (one year ago) link

Painful to think how far ahead Corbyn would have been in the polls right now.

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 August 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link

any other leader would be 20 points ahead, u might say

built like a kit malthouse (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 August 2022 13:42 (one year ago) link

corbyn would have been overthrown long ago over his response to covid (regardless of what it was) if not immediately- unless the kind of militancy that we're starting to see now had suddenly become much more widespread under his administration (which I know was the hope but it was real long shot and it's hard to know well how he would have been able to handle labour disputes as PM esp given his cynical pro-cop policies- which would be much easier to implement than the pro-worker policies regardless of his own preferences) but even that could have triggered a coup or assassination so idk. a lot of unlikely things would have had to happen for him to do any good at all and most of them would be way out of his hands

Left, Thursday, 11 August 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link

"but even that could have triggered a coup or assassination so idk."

Lol

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 August 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link

This is pathetic.

NEW: #EnoughIsEnough has written to prime minister @BorisJohnson imploring him to urgently recall parliament.

Sitting down with energy companies and walking away with no new measures is a dereliction of duty.

He must act now: stop the October price hike. pic.twitter.com/oOY9x4AQq3

— Enough is Enough (@eiecampaign) August 11, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:03 (one year ago) link

it's so fucking lame I'm surprised Starmer's name isn't on there

calzino, Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

fuck Martin Lewis it's a time for riots, people are going to end up dying or in extreme poverty and these fucking jokers are acting like LibDems.

calzino, Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

"Chair of Fans Supporting Foodbanks" fuck off with that shit.

calzino, Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:16 (one year ago) link

I hope our left wing luminaries are blackpilled enough by now not to simply tut from the sidelines when the next riot happens like they did last time the bastards

of course I expect some really scary fashy shit from tories and liberals in such a scenario

Left, Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link

Martin Lewis and Jack Monroe are two people that are just as awful as any of the UK political classes in this era. I don't want advice on how to survive being poor and getting poorer from someone worth a few hundred million and I'd rather starve to death than live on extremely unhealthy so-called fucking recipes that involve microwaving super-processed tinned food like spaghetti hoops minus the sauce, ones that will give you long term health conditions if you live on them for too long. And this foodbank supporting charity involved, it's such a One Nation Tory mindset. Fuck them all lol!

calzino, Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

maybe it's time for some real serious action ... a parliamentary petition

calzino, Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

Also the problem of Jack Monroe is that her food is basically budget cooking for white people, and kind of erases Asian families who have nailed surviving on cheap recipes via dhal and rice etc.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Thursday, 11 August 2022 20:22 (one year ago) link

yes that is a very good point suzy

calzino, Thursday, 11 August 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link

and it's just basically extremely unhealthy and garbage cooking advice

calzino, Thursday, 11 August 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link

there are so many more gastronomically superior and healthier ways to survive being poor on a low budget, but she's stuck on poor are too thick to do learn basic cooking skills

calzino, Thursday, 11 August 2022 20:33 (one year ago) link

but let's just help normalise foodbanks and give them awful recipes that will kill them in the long run. This shit really boils my blood.

calzino, Thursday, 11 August 2022 20:39 (one year ago) link

OTM to the max.

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link

I've got a few of her recipe books - they're not short of curries, rice, daals - for exactly that reason

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 12 August 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link

well that spaghetti hoops monstrosity I saw needs deleting from an abridged version with only the legit recipes that won't be detrimental to your physical and mental health, because it's not only unwholesome garbage it's also an affront to human dignity. Being on Universal Credit is already enough to destroy your will to live, no need to make it worse by making inadequate nutrition seem an acceptable long term option for living.

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 06:34 (one year ago) link

i really do think the tories are fucking it

‘Liz Truss defends energy firms saying profit is not evil’

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62513966

Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 August 2022 08:40 (one year ago) link

Reeves says they’d bring pre-payment bills in line w/ direct debit to ensure “no one pays over the odds for the same gas & electricity”

It’d cost £113m Oct-March

They’d reimburse energy firms using £ raised by fixing HMG’s windfall tax

I think my direct debit is just as much as a fucking I'd get with a pre-payment meter so they are already in line. It's plain to see from the costing that it isn't a serious proposal. The government will come up with something more ambitious than that and it won't be up to the scale of the crisis either. Aiming lower than an austerity government isn't fiscally responsible - it's just a worthless dereliction of opposition. Fucking joke party.

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 08:51 (one year ago) link

Everything is just so careful about proposals (what does "over the odds mean"). Now I don't care for Mario Draghi, but no technocrat/politician has ever said "whatever it takes", and that statement was to calm the financial markets lol.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 August 2022 08:57 (one year ago) link

Ofgem raising the definition of what "over the odds" is every couple of months doesn't seem to concern Reeves too much

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 09:05 (one year ago) link

Cons and Lab are in pretty much the same place. They don't care to know how people struggle, this is the world they've made and as it falls apart they will be least equipped to make the necessary changes. They'll be forced to do the min on a day-to-day basis.

At least the Cons enrich themselves and loot the public purse and know how to enjoy themselves. Starmer is just a fucking nerd.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 August 2022 09:22 (one year ago) link

Even Guardian writers are turning into shitposters with his disappearance from public life.

If your house was on fire, Keir Starmer would give you a bottle of water.

— Frances Ryan (@DrFrancesRyan) August 12, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 August 2022 09:23 (one year ago) link

lol yeah. I'm delighted Dr Francis has turned against Kieth. I like her a lot but found it distressing when she was stanning for him.

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 09:28 (one year ago) link

A knock-on effect of their uselessness is an almost complete lack of serious discussion about what the parameters for action are. Brown’s intervention last week is probably the closest anyone’s come to making a constructive suggestion but even that was pretty vague. Would the government negotiating energy prices make a difference? Would taking the retail element into public ownership? Can you impose windfall taxes on electricity producers legally? Can producers be compelled to sell energy below cost price?

Labour engaging seriously, even to oppose proposals, would at least be vaguely informative.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 12 August 2022 09:37 (one year ago) link

They've got a cheek criticizing Johnson for disappearing when Starmer's been equally as mute and invisible.

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Friday, 12 August 2022 09:41 (one year ago) link

I think even Brown might have gone a bit further and more detailed if he wasn't carefully trying not to embarrass Kieth. His shadow cabinet is mostly garbage as well but he has that same dampening effect on them as well.

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 09:52 (one year ago) link

media has to step in and outline what’s possible if politicians won’t, and they have to illustrate the tough choices people face, and tbf the bbc has been doing some of this (which i think shows just how bad things have gotten)

Which countries are doing the most to tackle energy bills? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/61522123

or

People can't wait for energy help - Citizens Advice https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62509970

Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 August 2022 09:55 (one year ago) link

I rang up British Gas to try and persuade them to lower my direct debit, just as a one off until there is more money in my bank. The call centre guy couldn't do it and was quite brusque with me. I was thinking fair enough it was probably the 50th call they'd taken like this, but I was quite angry and thinking fuck their bosses and fuck all the execs and shareholders etc.... And then a couple hours later I got a text from them: Just a few quick questions. First, how likely are you to recommend us?

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 10:15 (one year ago) link

lmaooooo

Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 August 2022 10:23 (one year ago) link

I’m with EDF and they’ve been after me for a meter read since the end of June. My meter is read every three months on the 15th (so due NEXT WEEK) so they can GTFO. The letters get more and more bellicose despite being plain wrong. I don’t do direct debits with energy suppliers and I am very lucky to have central heating and hot water included in my rent, where the service charge is roughly £30/month.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Friday, 12 August 2022 10:45 (one year ago) link

And yet they plaster every email and their website with "if you're having trouble paying please talk to us"

just meaningless PR blather

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 August 2022 10:47 (one year ago) link

i’m with ecotricity and weirdly i am now in credit. my bill last month was less than £100 for gas and electricity together.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 August 2022 11:24 (one year ago) link

Those with the least shouldn’t pay more to heat their homes and turn on their lights.

But under the Tories, they do.

Labour would end energy prepayment premiums, giving 4m households relief on bills.

This is part of our energy package to tackle the cost of living crisis.

— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) August 12, 2022



comments pointing out that this works out as an 18p saving per day - which would then be paid as tax back to the energy companies!

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 12 August 2022 11:34 (one year ago) link


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