Lake Trout & ACAB: David Simon’s “We Own This City” on HBOMax

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David Simon/Pelecanos/Baltimore hive where you at? #downyocean for corruption, brutality, bad times & bad haircuts with our good friends John Bernthal & Josh Charles :D

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terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 19:02 (three weeks ago) link

First episode was really good, and there's only six, so I'm in. I want a lot more Jamie Hector before this thing is over.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 19:20 (three weeks ago) link

i have a lot to say about this but i am busy with work. the first episode was dog shit. will i continue watching? yes.

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 19:22 (three weeks ago) link

I need to read the book (and I haven’t seen the show yet but am hype to)

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 19:23 (three weeks ago) link

i read the other book so i am probably not going to read fenton's tbh. i just hate exposition that is like "hellow i am in baldimore so of course i casually talk about lake trout?"

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 19:26 (three weeks ago) link

But they were pioneers in the blending of rock music with drum n bass!

peace, man, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 19:51 (three weeks ago) link

Bernthal plays such a good unrepentant sleazebag.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 19:54 (three weeks ago) link

i have a lot to say about this but i am busy with work. the first episode was dog shit. will i continue watching? yes.

Haven't watched yet, but I'm very curious about your take

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 21:33 (three weeks ago) link

ok i am going down pulaski highway for pit beef to the gym but i will say more later!

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 21:49 (three weeks ago) link

i love everything about bernthal

the way he has all the details down of the affable big dick cop who is also an insanely tense asshole
constantly onhigh-alert - like his eyes look then he moves, when he turns his head he is like a t-1000
the visible tendons in his neck
the way he says hi to every single person walking into IA to show them that he knows them, such a sad “swinging dick power move”
the walk! omg. it’s like a cross between a body builder & an old wrestler, like he lifts weights but also maybe had a back injury 20 years ago

i am obsessed with what he’s doing here
have met guys like this

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 23:33 (three weeks ago) link

i really liked the first ep

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 23:33 (three weeks ago) link

I want to punch bernthal in the face but I will watch

calstars, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 23:42 (three weeks ago) link

exactly

josh charles too. hideous & excellent.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 23:45 (three weeks ago) link

Josh Charles is incredibly hateable in this.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 28 April 2022 00:08 (three weeks ago) link

it is amazing how hateable he is!
like for decades he’s been the charming cute quippy guy in everything & it’s not like he super-transformed but just all his mannerisms & his look & that sullen way about him is so good/horrible

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 April 2022 00:51 (three weeks ago) link

ok so i am trying to be fair here. i think this should be longer than 6 episodes but i will accept the limitations. i like crime stories but i cannot stand to watch even one minute of law and order and many elements of this reminded me of it. like the extremely awkward dialogue they feel they have to use to tell their dumb audience what is happening. and the things that would just never happen in real life. they wouldn't interview a sitting judge! they could have just used something else there.

anyway, i believe that david simon loves and identifies with cops. i do not think he is capable of truly understanding or explaining why this happened because he is a "bad apples" guy. and i have been reading justin fenton's writing for like 13 years now? he has written two stories *at most* that i have thought were good. he is kind of a dim bulb. there are tons of things about this story that are really intersting and i have followed it very closely, so i am trying not to nitpick, i'm just afraid what is being set up here is how the good guy suburban cops found the bad apples and saved the day.

and i deleted something because i thought i was being too harsh

towards fungal computer (harbl), Thursday, 28 April 2022 01:34 (three weeks ago) link

Harbl have you read “I got a monster?”

Heez, Monday, 2 May 2022 02:28 (two weeks ago) link

i’ve only seen the ads on twitter, which make it look incredibly awful

who owns/built this city? cops, right? gtfo

mookieproof, Monday, 2 May 2022 03:44 (two weeks ago) link

unless there’s pembleton, maybe

mookieproof, Monday, 2 May 2022 03:46 (two weeks ago) link

I think I've gotten dumber since The Wire finished because I had a hard time following the action in this one!

Human-shaped trash bag (Leee), Monday, 2 May 2022 22:07 (two weeks ago) link

What day of the week do episodes come out?

calstars, Monday, 2 May 2022 22:32 (two weeks ago) link

Monday I believe

Heez, Monday, 2 May 2022 22:44 (two weeks ago) link

Ain’t up yet. Maybe they post later in the day to mimic “prime time?”

calstars, Monday, 2 May 2022 22:49 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah that’s usually what they do

Heez, Monday, 2 May 2022 22:50 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, for better or worse, HBO Max is still tied pretty closely to HBO's schedule for current shows. They typically pop up to stream at the same time they air "live" on HBO.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 2 May 2022 23:00 (two weeks ago) link

I kept thinking this had Stephen Baldwin in it

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 00:57 (two weeks ago) link

Seems like they’re layering flashbacks within flashbacks ??? Lot of moving around
They also not only use the Jenkins computer report to announce them but also the traditional method of just announcing it on screen ….aghhh

calstars, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 15:17 (two weeks ago) link

Enjoyed the first episode, but about halfway in it struck me how much John Bernthal reminded me of Alf.

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 17:13 (two weeks ago) link

Man, this show.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 01:08 (two weeks ago) link

anyway, i believe that david simon loves and identifies with cops. i do not think he is capable of truly understanding or explaining why this happened because he is a "bad apples" guy.

It's really interesting because having watched The Wire so many times, some of the dialog from The Wire is recreated almost verbatim here. I remember watching the trailer for this, and thinking, "Oh! Bernthal plays McNulty Breaking Bad!" and it's kinda true, that that's how it was played. Like, I was hoping for a complete re-framing here, but it is still a lot of cop love.

i am trying not to nitpick, i'm just afraid what is being set up here is how the good guy suburban cops found the bad apples and saved the day.
the first two episodes are definitely leading that direction. ... I wonder if some of my reading is because I am so used to watching cop shows, but ... cop shows are the dominant narrative so ... it isn't just me.

sarahell, Friday, 6 May 2022 15:27 (two weeks ago) link

I'm still watching this though -- and I've stopped being a TV masochist -- I couldn't watch past the first 3 episodes of that Super Pumped show because of the asshole factor (speaking of shows that take place where I live and stories I followed lol).

sarahell, Friday, 6 May 2022 15:32 (two weeks ago) link

i see we are still talking about pit beef in episode 3

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 23:06 (one week ago) link

bernthal’s wayne just gets more & more punchable the more you learn about him

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 23:12 (one week ago) link

Yea not only the character but also his face and acting. I think ep 3 is where I get off the boat

calstars, Thursday, 12 May 2022 11:01 (one week ago) link

“Happy Wayne Jenkins Day, motherfucker!”

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 01:29 (five days ago) link


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