Real love -- I'm, like, searchin' for that Queer Love -- LGBTQIA+ Love // A Thread for the Real Ones

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🙃🙃🙃 wassup y'all? i'm so happy we're all here. lots of years between the lot of you. friends, lovers, cuties welcome. 🐙🐙🐙

Swen, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:19 (two months ago) link

Bump.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 18 March 2022 20:17 (two months ago) link

feeling mighty real tbh

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Friday, 18 March 2022 20:20 (two months ago) link

great title swen, can i call you swenny henny?

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Friday, 18 March 2022 20:21 (two months ago) link

y'all I just spent 4 days in Boston w my new "friend" and it was soooo nice, we seem to really enjoy each other's company and he was v cuddly and affectionate and it just felt v lovely to have like easy uncomplicated intimacy, also while I was there I bought a golden fork to keep in my office for work lunches and I am irrationally excited abt it, it is truly so cunt

this weekend I am performing in a Kate Bush revue thing called N1ght of 1000 K4tes, it is going to be v fun (it's in its 8th year and I have attended all but the v first one and this will be my 2nd time performing!!!), it is one of my v favorite things abt Philly, every year is like going to summer camp and seeing all your friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jK7dW8Jf74

Stevie D(eux), Friday, 18 March 2022 20:21 (two months ago) link

lmao at having a golden fork, it's completely perfect and now i want one. kate bush community theater sounds lovely.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Friday, 18 March 2022 20:28 (two months ago) link

it's got like a sanded matte finish instead of a high-gloss sheen, I really love it

Stevie D(eux), Friday, 18 March 2022 20:31 (two months ago) link

it's actually my friend's performance/idea and I'm just one of the performers, but it's like, about covid??? (which I'm not thrilled abt but I love my friend and am happy to contrib), it's like a sound collage based on "Aerial" (which I tbh am thrilled abt) and there's like, dancers in the audience, and mirrory things on the stage reflecting back on the audience, and there's like, contemplation and one-ness and survival and stuff I think

Stevie D(eux), Friday, 18 March 2022 20:32 (two months ago) link

that's sooo cool and I'm jelly. I just listened to Aerial the other day. my introduction to ILX!

Swen, Friday, 18 March 2022 20:35 (two months ago) link

so I have had my own idea for YEARS that I have told several ppl abt and have gotten a good response to and I think I am going to finally finally try to pull it off next year, I think I have maybe even talked abt it on here somewhere, but the song is this v inexplicable house remix of "Rubberband Girl" and the performance is a complete ripoff of UNZIPPED (1995) where it will be a fashion show and there will be all sorts of zany chaos and hijinks backstage but w like perfect immaculate runway walks the second they come out from behind the curtain, the performance has nothing to do w the music but maybe I'll get some LIVESTRONG bracelets made and throw them into the crowd idk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KII-OXV86c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFBc4rXKkTU

Stevie D(eux), Friday, 18 March 2022 20:37 (two months ago) link

AERIAL is honestly the best Kate Bush album

Stevie D(eux), Friday, 18 March 2022 20:38 (two months ago) link

also it is a bit $$$ (20 of them to be exact) but they are selling tickets for the livestream tomorrow night at 8:30! https://wl.seetickets.us/event/Night-of1000Kates/470113?afflky=UndergroundArts

Stevie D(eux), Friday, 18 March 2022 20:39 (two months ago) link

stevie i still have that KB shirt you sent me! it's a lil snug on me atm but whenever i wear it ppl always ask about it

donna rouge, Friday, 18 March 2022 20:39 (two months ago) link

omg mine too is a lil snug, I forget which one I sent you but the one I have has her face on it and my belly makes it fold in half so that it makes her look like that one picture of Aphex Twin

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/da/Aphex_Twin_-_Syro_main_press_photo.jpg

Stevie D(eux), Friday, 18 March 2022 20:43 (two months ago) link

you sent me the glow in the dark one (which amazingly still works after probably dozens of laundry cycles)

donna rouge, Friday, 18 March 2022 20:49 (two months ago) link

I just watched unzipped recently and it was so good. also did you know there's a sister documentary called catwalk that basically follows Christy Turlington all over the world?
pretty awful what's going on with Linda Evangelista. she just released the first body pics of her condition due to coolsculpting. unimaginable.

Swen, Saturday, 19 March 2022 17:47 (two months ago) link

I was sad to miss Kates. Heard my friend Anna blew it outta the park, and saw the wacky inflatable Cathy and Heathcliff blow-up piece on film. Looked like a really fun time, but we had planned a dinner months ago with our gay friends, one of whom is going through a health scare...so it seemed more important to hang out with them.

I finished "Detransition, Baby," yesterday, and while I thought it ended much too quickly, I thought it had some really lovely moments.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Monday, 21 March 2022 14:57 (two months ago) link

hope your friend is hanging in there <3

Swen, Monday, 21 March 2022 20:01 (two months ago) link

xp y0ung?? she fuckin KILLED it (as per usual). I hope they post a recording of the livestream.

Stevie D(eux), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 02:46 (two months ago) link

I've been listening to a lot of RuTH lately 🌄🌄🌄

Swen, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 04:20 (two months ago) link

yes Stevie, that Ann4

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 14:15 (two months ago) link

o boy what a life we lead really

Swen, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 23:14 (one month ago) link

so I'm not sure when the next time I'll "meet" someone is, let's call it, due to extenuating circumstances

do i care?

will i ever go out to a bar and pick someone up again? i had occasional game. all of a sudden I'd love to meet someone younger than me. i usually don't gravitate to that realm. i wonder what that's about

Swen, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 23:35 (one month ago) link

you will absolutely go out to a bar and pick someone up again, it is so inevitable

Stevie D(eux), Saturday, 26 March 2022 16:53 (one month ago) link

Date tonight. At a (rooftop) bar. I shoulda asked if he's jabbed.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 March 2022 18:22 (one month ago) link

first date? how did you meet? brown hair, big heart, bat eyelashes?

you know Stevie it's just at first it was pandemia, and then health stuff that's going to take another 6 months to settle. just didn't realize I'd be singing the same tune for the goddamn 3-year dark ages. but whatever i'm going to get so many beauty treatments when this is all through I plan on looking like Princess Jasmine meets Bella Hadid. mark my words.

also i quit smoking forever and it's truly something else. going on 6 months.

Swen, Sunday, 27 March 2022 14:15 (one month ago) link

my new issue of BUTT just arrived!!!!!!!!!

Stevie D(eux), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 21:57 (one month ago) link

omg i already read some of the poems
how is it at large?

Swen, Thursday, 31 March 2022 17:23 (one month ago) link

is it large?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 March 2022 17:23 (one month ago) link

C'mon Simone, let's talk about your big "but."

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Thursday, 31 March 2022 17:28 (one month ago) link

I haven't read it yet bcz I got it at work and then *brag alert* went straight to my fuck buddy's house for a cute date and only just got home a few hours ago!!!

Stevie D(eux), Thursday, 31 March 2022 18:58 (one month ago) link

butts all around

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:17 (one month ago) link

butts rule everything around me

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:17 (one month ago) link

OK SO
I'm not a butt man and i keep feeling more and more alone
like American men are just obsessed with them
i feel like there's something wrong with me

Swen, Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:25 (one month ago) link

Stevo you're killin it these days

Swen, Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:27 (one month ago) link

don't care about the outside, it's what's inside that counts imo

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:28 (one month ago) link

like the way it feels?

Swen, Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:34 (one month ago) link

yeah! i mean not to get too tmi or too cliche i guess but i just think anuses are this incredible part of us lol and i really like experiencing them.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:40 (one month ago) link

So! My Saturday night date sold me out. I suspected trouble when I had to text him 15 mins before meeting: he was running late thanks to a "minor emergency" at his parents', whatever that means (what's a "minor" emergency?). Luckily a friend kept me company at the bar.

An hour later, date texts: "On my way, send location address plz?" That's the last I heard of him. For a while I thought he died -- until I saw a an Instagram post Sunday morning.

He's 24, a former student who emailed me four years after class to ask about getting a beer or coffee. On determining he was queer he gushed: he praised my self-assurance, brains, looks, etc. We might've met that night had I not plans already. It's worth noting I barely remember this kid in summer 2018.

I wonder if simply not showing up is a phenomenon of the young?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:41 (one month ago) link

Anusii are a cliche?

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:41 (one month ago) link

that sucks. definitely hit next. it's been a phenomenon of the young and old as long as i've been dating tbh. xp

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:44 (one month ago) link

Yeah, I wanted to avoid generational generalization, but a few viejos noted The Vanishing has been more prevalent in the last four years.

I've ghosted more than my share, I should note.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:47 (one month ago) link

I have never done this, to my knowledge?

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Thursday, 31 March 2022 22:30 (one month ago) link

me eiths it's dumb
I'm too polite though

Swen, Friday, 1 April 2022 01:32 (one month ago) link

wassup homieslice

Swen, Saturday, 2 April 2022 18:01 (one month ago) link

good morning!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 April 2022 18:02 (one month ago) link

Mornin' sunshine!
What's on the platter?

Swen, Saturday, 2 April 2022 18:03 (one month ago) link

I'm vegetarian tonight.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 April 2022 18:21 (one month ago) link

sexually or culinarily?

Swen, Sunday, 3 April 2022 00:00 (one month ago) link

Lady Bracknell : Well, both, if necessary, I presume!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 April 2022 00:11 (one month ago) link

Ghoulish? Hmm.

I guess I’ve been thinking about this sort of thing for years, seems pretty normal to me…but I mean I also used to work in porn where it was a regular thing to talk about all the time lmfao

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:32 (one week ago) link

I don’t know why I read that as “goulash”

castanuts (DJP), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:32 (one week ago) link

I do love to goulash some balls in my mouth.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:37 (one week ago) link

shaved balls, hairy balls, trimmed pubes, bushy pubes, honestly it doesn't matter to me. bodies are different and i love that

marcos, Friday, 13 May 2022 15:49 (one week ago) link

There’s a gentle Macbethish air in these balls

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:51 (one week ago) link

"A poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more"? Ghoulish indeed.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:59 (one week ago) link

What kind of gays are you who don't recognize All About Eve?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:59 (one week ago) link

And you call yourself a playwright!

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Friday, 13 May 2022 16:01 (one week ago) link

Aha. Back to the Copacabana.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 May 2022 16:04 (one week ago) link

You sly puss

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Friday, 13 May 2022 16:05 (one week ago) link

Campy film references are usually lost on me, just not that kind of gay

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Friday, 13 May 2022 17:09 (one week ago) link

… campy?!

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Friday, 13 May 2022 17:10 (one week ago) link

shaved balls, hairy balls, trimmed pubes, bushy pubes, honestly it doesn't matter to me. bodies are different and i love that

― marcos, Friday, May 13, 2022 11:49 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

This.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Friday, 13 May 2022 17:53 (one week ago) link

all genitals matter

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Friday, 13 May 2022 19:40 (one week ago) link

folks are we feeling like summer?

personally i just want a few weeks of jumping in lakes and stuff, i can pretty much leave the rest.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Friday, 13 May 2022 19:43 (one week ago) link

thank you map for your thoughtful posts and to others for sharing their insights. some random thoughts:

I’ve questioned my gender enough over the past five years to feel like i don’t have a firm grounding in “cisness” – words like genderfluid, genderqueer, nonbinary, or even just queer sometimes resonate more – but i think i also feel okay being a man, with being masculine sometimes. other times i do not. It is hard to describe, too, how my experience of gender correlates, or not, with my sexuality. I’m bisexual, but my attraction to men is very different from my attraction to women and so are the ways in which I relate to them sexually. I feel romantic and sexual attraction to both (my partner is a woman), and it’s not as simple as “with men, i bottom and with women, i top” but in terms of sexual styles, acts, roles, etc. i desire very different things with women than i do with men.

not that these correlate with gender in general or even my own internal experience of gender, but generally i’d rather look “cute” or “beautiful” than “tough” or “strong.” it is weird though. i have always been quite slight and thin, was called scrawny by my bulkier peers growing up, but now in my late 30s after a few decades of yoga and cycling i am in the best physical shape i have ever been in, strong even! I am still very small and thin but also wiry and a little muscular now. I love being in good shape, but i feel ambivalent about being more muscular. maybe i want to be more graceful and elegant. my mom commented on my “muscles” recently when looking at my arms and it felt super fucking weird to be perceived that way.

with men, i am much more attracted to “masculine,” “strong,” or “big” men than i am to “cute” or “beautiful” men. i want a daddy, lol. I want to be the pretty one. but gay sex for me is not just about wanting to femme out a little for a strong daddy, the whole idea of gay sex for me also feels super masculine in a sweaty and hot way that is very appealing and sexy to me. when i watch porn, though, i tend not to really watch gay porn. i usually watch bi or hetero porn (though how “hetero” is hetero porn really, what with all these big cocks these days lol) and fantasize about being both the men and the women. i watch the women and want to be desirable in the same feminine way they are. It’s that familiar “am i attracted to this person or do i want to be this person?” question that i actually ask myself seeing attractive people of all genders. sometimes i fantasize about being a woman, but i also love being a gay man. And i love being a gay man but i also really love being bisexual and having sex with women. I want it all, lol, a true greedy bisexual. overall though i feel like my having sex with any gender would still feel “queer” to me because i am queer.

marcos, Friday, 13 May 2022 19:44 (one week ago) link

It just hit the 80s here, so I’m already grumpy.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Friday, 13 May 2022 19:45 (one week ago) link

sorry for the long posts! just a lotta thoughts

we’ve all heard the “button question” on gender, which I don’t think is a particularly helpful or revealing thought experiment, but is still one i’ve considered numerous times – if i could push a button and immediately become and be seen as woman without having to take any steps to transition medically, socially, etc. would i? my answer has always been an immediate and resounding “yes, of course!” who wouldn’t? i would love to have that experience – both in relation to my own body/being as well as others.’ A lot of this is also mixed up with my mood disorder. I’m bipiolar ii and i’ve noticed my experience of gender and sexuality fluctuates depending on my mood. I’ve been reflecting over the past few years – how do i feel when i’m hypomanic? when i’m depressed? when i’m stable? When i’m manic i fantasize about getting gangbanged by a room full of ten dudes and i feel super gay. I feel hypersexual and desirable in ways that also feel both masculine and feminine, though. In one manic episode last year, i felt almost conclusive that i should transition. I eventually returned to stability and felt the opposite. when i’m stable i feel solidly comfortable in my body, in my bisexuality and the different ways my gender is manifested in it, and overall probably lean masc. But even if i did transition, ultimately i kinda think i would still hover around in that space where i am now, where masc and femme coexist and fluctuate in different ways internally, sexually, socially, phenomenologically. one might outweigh the other in my presentation or in my mind depending on my mood, company, music, environment. the blurry dyke/fag boundary, sometimes butch sometimes femme.

A lot of this of course is mixed up with my experience of having a particular body. I have olive/brown skin, black hair, a lot of very dark hair on my body – chest hair, leg hair, dark thick stubble covering much of my face, permanent shadow when i shave. I am in a comfortable place now, but over my life I’ve had a difficult relationship with my body hair. During my first gay sexual experience as a teenager – three of us at a sleepover – i was told by one of the guys that i had “too much hair,” and suddenly i felt very self-conscious and withdrew, while the other two white hairless guys proceeded to mess around in front of me. I felt rejected, but it was also hard to reckon that with the eroticism of watching them in front of me, and eventually the guy must have gotten over whatever aversion to body hair he had because we continued to mess around for years throughout high school. I did trim, however, whenever i knew we would be hanging out.

When I was manic and considering transition steps, I researched hair removal. But based on my early experience of rejection, i wrestled with the question – is this gender dysphoria or is this internalized white supremacy / western beauty standards? Do i actually hate my body hair, or was i made to feel as if i wasn’t desirable with it? As I returned to stability, I was able to acknowledge that usually I love my body hair and sometimes I don’t, but ultimately that i would rather keep it than go through any steps to permanently remove it. I keep my body hair now, lightly trimmed, but on my head and face I buzz it all off now. when i look at myself with a shaved head, i feel like i look both masculine and androgynous, which I like.

marcos, Friday, 13 May 2022 19:48 (one week ago) link

also like none of this makes any sense to me. gender is really confusing imo

marcos, Friday, 13 May 2022 20:04 (one week ago) link

amazing posts marcos, thank you!

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Friday, 13 May 2022 20:20 (one week ago) link

Campy film references are usually lost on me, just not that kind of gay

― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table),

lol weird that this Hollywood film is camp after this discussion

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 May 2022 20:29 (one week ago) link

Hollywood can’t be camp?

And Last I heard, making references to films that are 70+ years old and expecting everyone to know them is either the height of camp or the height of snobbery

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Friday, 13 May 2022 20:36 (one week ago) link

oh cool! I was waiting for you to fight me!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 May 2022 20:38 (one week ago) link

to be not camp enough or too camp is just fine, hon

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 May 2022 20:39 (one week ago) link

Truly don’t understand what I’ve done to deserve your constant desire to provoke me, Alfred, but I don’t appreciate it.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Friday, 13 May 2022 20:43 (one week ago) link

map to answer your question I'm really not sure what this summer is going to be like for me - all I know is I'm going to order some ACs like nobody's business STAT
seriously considering making this - the summer of 2 ACs . . . . . . . . . . .
bye bye heat, hello electric bill!!

Swen, Saturday, 14 May 2022 01:39 (one week ago) link

sounds like a good idea

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Saturday, 14 May 2022 01:40 (one week ago) link

I'm also going to be spending a good amount of time with my dermatologist this summer
just got done dealing with a thing that left me a bit worse for wear so it's the summer of the glow-up for me
watch out it's about to get all Judy Greer up in here

Swen, Saturday, 14 May 2022 02:06 (one week ago) link

talk to me about your look this summer map. any new pieces? or tried and true?

Swen, Saturday, 14 May 2022 02:08 (one week ago) link

so buzzing about Jake Daniels - 17 years old, professional footballer, looking a lifetime of being closeted and miserable, and saying "no thanks" - he's going to have such a terrible time on the pitch with the abuse but he must have figured that it couldn't be any worse than what he was facing already.

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 08:15 (five days ago) link

y'all with the balls talk, lol, i'm, like, in kind of a different place testicles-wise, i'm just gonna put it that way. marcos it's great seeing you talk about your experiences, hearing you talking about the place you're coming from.

your understanding of the "button question" is a really good one. it's not meant... i mean it's a bullshit question, yes? there is no button. it's a koan, it's there to break people's assumed thought patterns, and it sounds like you're past a place where you have those ingrained prejudices, like you're dealing with these things without the cisnormative bullshit a lot of people deal with. you're finding a way of doing things that's working for _you_, and i just wanna say you're fucking killing it. you're killing it, fgti is killing it, gender is lots of things and it's confusing and the way we learn is by _doing_.

when people think about gender diverse people, there's so much of the binary there, and when i talk to cishet people i deliberately avoid saying, like, that i'm a non-binary trans woman, that _most_ of us... lily alexandre did a video and it's a good video but you know, The Algorithms, it has this clickbaity title, "Do Binary Trans People Even Exist?". every once in a while someone comes into a particular trans group i'm in and says "i feel kind of non-binary, can i be non-binary and still be trans" and the facilitator does a show of hands and more than 50% of us at any given time are non-binary trans.

presentation is part of gender, it's important to gender, but you know, when someone says "wearing a dress doesn't make you a woman", yeah i fucking _agree_ with that. it's important and meaningful in ways that i don't... i don't fucking _need_ to describe, i don't need to _justify_ to anybody. getting to present femme helps me feel good about myself as a woman, but most women aren't high femme, and i'm not high femme either. some trans women are in fact butch, and with me, i don't think of myself as butch or femme or even futch, i just present different ways depending on the situation, and i have that _freedom_ as a woman and i never felt i had that freedom as a "man". for me a lot of my early tendency towards presenting femme was more not wanting to be misgendered; as soon as i could feasibly pass wearing a t-shirt and jeans i started wearing t-shirts and jeans again when appropriate. i don't think of t-shirts and jeans as being particularly male-coded, though different people have different takes on it. i have friends who are dogmatic about never wearing pants ever, and friends who won't wear dresses because they're terrified of being seen as a "man in a dress" (which is kind of a shame given how jealous in general cis women often are of how fabulous trans women's legs are; it's often one of our best features).

i think hormones do play a role in it too. i was never into guys until i transitioned and now i am, i _appreciate_ them in a way that i didn't pre-estrogen. i still identify as a lesbian and people argue about that, of course, because people argue about everything, "gold star" lesbians vs. "bi/pan" lesbians, and for me queer labels aren't a thing that are there to tell me what i'm _not allowed_ to do, they're there to help me understand and accept myself, whatever that happens to be. i do recommend, again, lily alexandre on this, the video of hers that went viral and got me to start following her was the one on MOGAI, which is a really good breakdown of the tumblr "microgender" thing and how it got made fun of but also what it contributed, where it came from, what its failures and successes were.

putting too strict a label on things can be limiting. experimental gender, like, using aspects of the scientific method, try things, record your observations, draw conclusions, repeat, i am a strong supporter of that. that was my process. being open to things, open to changes. it helped me a lot in my transition when someone who used to post here talked about how when she'd started, she was pretty sure she was non-op but that changed. it meant that when that changed for me, too, i was ready, it saved me a lot of time and bullshit self-doubt. and that's not the perspective you're coming from, but the same principle, i think, of openness and non-judgement, applies.

which isn't exactly the vibe of the dan s/jordan s exchange upthread, i know, but i also recognize that they're both trying to be non-judgemental and i do want to celebrate that!

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when it comes to masc/femme stuff, i come at it from a kind of different place than you, marcos - i've found, through that process of non-judgemental observation, that i really like topping guys and bottoming to women. that's something that's been a challenge to me because there is a lot of... the normative thing is that masc = top and femme = bottom and for me going against that is challenging, on top of the, what i'm gonna say, i feel like there's a lot of ingrained versphobia or switchphobia kind of like there used to be biphobia.

(i guess i should also make it clear that i'm... ambiguously ace. i don't think of myself as asexual but "getting railed in a sundress"/"railing someone in a sundress" is more of a joke meme for me. sundress, yes, weather permitting. "railed", idgaf; there's other shit that is way more interesting to me that i won't get into here; idk why but ilx in general has always come off to me as being really vanilla, sometimes aggressively so, and i don't really want to challenge that!)

sort of the same with body hair, at least coming at it as a trans woman. i do epilate, pretty thoroughly, and it's pretty fucking important to me to not have body hair. at the same time i've not felt the need to have permanent hair removal of any sort. i shave my face (if anybody ever is considering epilating their face, just fucking don't, ok? people of my acquaintance keep trying it and it's a bad idea) and some people have huge dysphoria over it but me not so much. i don't have heavy beard shadow, it's light hair, and i don't really feel like electro. plus epilation to me is very centering in a sort of "girls rituals" sense and i don't want to give it up. i find that as a woman, the social expectations are different, very often the only "downtime" i get in my life is bodily self-care/grooming, which is... not without its advantages, because it feels intentional and productive in a way that the canonical "relaxing in a la-z-boy with a drink in one's hand" experience doesn't.

i haven't - this is personal stuff here, but i've become more open about talking about volunteering this stuff unasked just because if i don't people have a tendency to make dumb fucking assumptions - i haven't had genital hair removal, either. the bottom surgery i've had doesn't require it. i like the flexibility of it. anywhere else i'm pretty dogmatic about no hair, but sometimes i like growing things out a little bit, having a hairy bush. one of the effects of not having had hair removal... the particular surgery is called "zero depth" or "minimal depth", vulvoplasty without creation of a neovaginal canal, which is why hair removal isn't necessary. but it does mean i can get pretty damn hairy down there! i find that having a more closely trimmed bush or shaved cunt helps keep things from getting too terribly pungent down there, particularly since i don't need to shower every day now.

i can't relate at _all_ to the ball talk. most of the dicks i encounter in everyday life are girl dicks, and while trans women can often have complicated and nuanced feelings about our dicks, when it comes to our balls, most of the trans women i know feel as negatively towards them as i did (which is to say _very_ negatively). since orchi is the least invasive version of bottom surgery, it's pretty common for us to have had them yeeted.

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 11:11 (five days ago) link

Truly don’t understand what I’ve done to deserve your constant desire to provoke me, Alfred, but I don’t appreciate it.

― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table),

I'm sorry I missed this last Friday. I'm sorry for provoking you -- I like to prick people's self-importance, especially in a gay thread, and certainly I can use ahem pricking too. In other cases sometimes you're quick to jump on other posters, and, to your credit, you recognize it; but then I'm no one to judge either. Hugs. You're one of my favorite posters -- it's been more than a dozen years, no?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 11:54 (five days ago) link

I just thought it was well known that Alfred and I communicate in All About Eve lines roughly 75% of the time.

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 13:12 (five days ago) link

Enchantez to you too!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 13:19 (five days ago) link

Thank you Mr. Fabian!

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 13:20 (five days ago) link

see, that made me laugh, even tho i don’t know the film.

Alfred, I think we first really interacted on here in 2007, since the “I have, like, no gay friends in town” era. I obviously have much fondness for you and your posts, too— many hugs.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 14:28 (five days ago) link

talk to me about your look this summer map. any new pieces? or tried and true?

― Swen, Saturday, May 14, 2022 3:08 AM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

i don't know, it's a bit of a mess. i've been vacillating between feeble attempts at "hip dance music guy" and "embracing power daddydom". both feeble because i'm short on time and money.

i have a lot of short mesh gym shorts and crossfit tees so i'll be defaulting to that a lot of the time when i don't feel like i have to look a certain way.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 14:48 (five days ago) link

anyone else have exciting look developments?

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 19 May 2022 21:28 (three days ago) link

i'm going to a secondhand clothing store this afternoon, first time in years. i need a "retro" costume for a pride party.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 19 May 2022 21:30 (three days ago) link

I’ve started wearing more color, but summer on the east coast for me just usually means tight shorts with baggy top or the opposite, depending on mood and activity

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Thursday, 19 May 2022 21:32 (three days ago) link

I also am trying to not buy new clothes any longer, only goodwill or thrift shops

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Thursday, 19 May 2022 21:33 (three days ago) link

anyone else have exciting look developments?

― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map),

Me! Me! Haircut:

https://i.imgur.com/d0BagVD.jpg

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 May 2022 21:34 (three days ago) link

hi alfred :) nice haircut

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 19 May 2022 21:42 (three days ago) link

Thanks!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 May 2022 21:46 (three days ago) link

handsome!

donna rouge, Thursday, 19 May 2022 22:06 (three days ago) link

haha, has _anyone_ here actually seen a picture of me? i have a billion but, like. trans woman. public internets. nope.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 19 May 2022 22:27 (three days ago) link

please!!!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 May 2022 22:30 (three days ago) link

I have seen a pic of you, Kate! I think you might have posted one a few years ago. You were wearing a cute top.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Thursday, 19 May 2022 23:03 (three days ago) link

she has a _name_

sorry i know that's a corny one

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 20 May 2022 00:13 (two days ago) link

lmfao Kate, i kinda knew i was setting myself up there

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Friday, 20 May 2022 00:18 (two days ago) link


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