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New film by Daniels, Michelle Yeoh starring, etc. Just saw an advance screening and you know what?

Film of the year. I will not be taking questions at this time. There's still nine months to go and if something else matches it in terms of what it did and what it pulled off, well then, fucking great because that means something else is THAT good.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 March 2022 04:09 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZhI2NuC-Fs

imago, Friday, 18 March 2022 05:47 (three months ago) link

Still missing a UK release date AFAIK

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 18 March 2022 07:43 (three months ago) link

Okay surely at least some of the other US crew has seen it by now.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 March 2022 23:02 (three months ago) link

gonna see it this week i think

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 27 March 2022 23:03 (three months ago) link

...and did you?

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 April 2022 00:43 (two months ago) link

Only heard of it through this thread. Wonder where I would be able to see it.

the two Nitehawk Cinemas in Brooklyn are showing it

Josefa, Sunday, 3 April 2022 16:04 (two months ago) link

This thread from Mr. Jenkins is correct.

EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE is an absolute BLAST — a loud, craven, Evel Knievel thrill-ride of a movie with a BIG ASS HEART. The @Daniels have taken a generation’s love of ALL KINDS of cinema and folded it into the multiverse family saga we’ve all sorely needed. A THREAD👇🏿

— Barry Jenkins (@BarryJenkins) April 4, 2022

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 00:17 (two months ago) link

I’m keeping my fingers crossed for it to open here this weekend.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 01:04 (two months ago) link

craven?

budo jeru, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 05:56 (two months ago) link

okay i see that was addressed elsewhere -- meant to type brazen.

budo jeru, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 05:58 (two months ago) link

Great interview with Ke Huy Quan

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/05/movies/ke-huy-quan-everything-everywhere.html

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 18:22 (two months ago) link

the two Nitehawk Cinemas in Brooklyn are showing it

I don’t go to Brooklyn.

Came Here to Roll the Microscope (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 18:26 (two months ago) link

J/k, I was there yesterday, although not to see one film. I will definitely go see something in that borough if my new bestie MUBI GO sends me there.

Came Here to Roll the Microscope (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 18:27 (two months ago) link

I'll check it out but I was already tired of multiverse movies right after that animated Spiderman

Thought I can see why it's a tempting device for writers

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 18:34 (two months ago) link

Still need to read that multiverse book mookieproof recommended.

Came Here to Roll the Microscope (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 18:38 (two months ago) link

Good thread from one of the Daniels here:

This film and all of us who worked on it are a product of our time. We learned VFX from Video Copilot. We learned shot design from Every Frame A Painting. The Martial Club (fight choreo) are youtubers with no formal training, and learned everything from watching HK movies. https://t.co/rjLCdGKedK

— Daniel Kwan (@dunkwun) April 7, 2022

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 April 2022 18:58 (two months ago) link

All I will say about Everything Everywhere etc is: the fingers dimension stuff really, really unsettled me. (Once you see the movie you’ll understand.) And yet I’m glad I saw this.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 9 April 2022 02:03 (two months ago) link

really delightful. not really my thing totally but i can’t be mad at it

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 April 2022 02:39 (two months ago) link

Film of the year.

I dunno, it seems like RRR is giving it a run for its money. (Haven't seen either yet.)

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Saturday, 9 April 2022 16:34 (two months ago) link

i saw it last night. the fingers dimension was especially powerful for me because in my pre-ILX days i used to have the most posts on radiohead/msgboard, and one of my many pseudonyms was "penisfingers". you have to forgive me for this, i was like 17 years old i think, but one of the qualities of the penisfingers character was that each of the penisfingers was 17 inches long. so, spoilers, when i saw the hot dog dimension, especially right after (i think) the scene where the guy with the pixelated genitalia, it immediately made me think that in this dimension, all of them had really, really long penisfingers, with some perhaps nearing 17 inches in length. it was like a really immature vision come to perfect life, and the part with the feet on the piano made me realize there was so much more to be found there

Karl Malone, Saturday, 9 April 2022 16:42 (two months ago) link

fingers dimension definitely my favorite part of the movie

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 April 2022 16:50 (two months ago) link

they're not remotely similar movies trying to do the same thing but seeing memoria the night previous was prob a bad decision. reminded me i prefer movies that have a single iota of patience; this film has none. still, so fun, so who cares

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 April 2022 16:51 (two months ago) link

i really thought the movie they were going to meta reference in-film would be The Matrix - my lips were saying it as the other words came out

Karl Malone, Saturday, 9 April 2022 17:39 (two months ago) link

i enjoyed the repeated references to “absolutely (story of a girl)”. my kind of silly a la the jennifer paige “crush” scene in the recent resident evil movie

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 April 2022 17:47 (two months ago) link

I also think there's a lot of interesting stuff to be said about the different kinds of forces and themes and how they're reconciled, but hard to talk about without spoilers so waiting is probably in order

Karl Malone, Saturday, 9 April 2022 17:54 (two months ago) link

I saw this movie on the strength of the trailer and the amazing "Turn Down For What" music video (same directors). But I always have a problem with movies where the conflict is on a grand (multi-) universal scale. The more cosmic the stakes, the more the personal elements of the story feel trivial.

The movie deals with that tension in clever way, and gives the directors a perfect excuse to include every gag and visual idea they could ever want. But it also requires them to stuff the first half of the movie with exposition, and the second half with tedious emotional speeches. And it's all in vain, because ultimately the tension is irresolvable (for me, anyway). Either it's all too big for this one mother-daughter relationship to matter that much, or the conflict isn't as all-consuming as it's made out to be. I can't keep it all in focus.

JRN, Saturday, 9 April 2022 23:57 (two months ago) link

I took that as a symbol that the personal relationships we have come to feel like the entire universe weighing heavy; sometimes a breakthrough in an individual relationship seems to affect everything else you know

Karl Malone, Sunday, 10 April 2022 01:06 (two months ago) link

I was waiting for one friend in particular's reaction to the movie -- among other things said friend's an author who also works as a translator between English and Mandarin -- and these threads say a lot worth considering:

I have never sit so still through a movie or laughed so fucking hard while watching anything alone as I did with #EverythingEverywhere, and oh my god it was a delight to understand the vast majority of the movie, I only didn’t understand the cantonese

— S. Qiouyi Lu 🧧 陸秋逸 (@sqiouyilu) April 9, 2022

I think we often try so hard to be hypermasculine because we know how much we’ve been emasculated by white supremacy, when really it’s like, the truest chinese masculinity is the one that completely exists outside white supremacist notions of masculinity and femininity https://t.co/NYWSYFsF6b

— S. Qiouyi Lu 🧧 陸秋逸 (@sqiouyilu) April 10, 2022

I still can’t believe they did this lmao like you don’t understand, traditional chinese homes typically have a courtyard where you enter through a round opening in the wall, and typically there’s a wall immediately behind the moon gate, and spaces to either side https://t.co/pWHZ9JDCRL

— S. Qiouyi Lu 🧧 陸秋逸 (@sqiouyilu) April 10, 2022

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 10 April 2022 21:50 (two months ago) link

This was fucking great

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 12 April 2022 16:10 (two months ago) link

was amazed by the cast list when I first heard about this, and that's before I knew Santa Claus would be in it!

sloop johnnin' skater (geoffreyess), Thursday, 14 April 2022 03:56 (two months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHOSiFzcHJ8

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 15 April 2022 23:17 (two months ago) link

loved this, and would love to see more of Ke Huy Quan now that he's back in the movies.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 April 2022 00:13 (two months ago) link

Yeah enjoyed this very much. Clever and not afraid to be silly. Interesting to see it shortly after I saw Encanto — both use fantasy-film trappings to interrogate intergenerational family trauma.

fuckabees

Bongo Jongus, Saturday, 16 April 2022 17:12 (two months ago) link

saw this today, what a blast. deserves to become the major movie phenomenon of the year IMHO.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 17 April 2022 01:50 (two months ago) link

saw this today & holy shit
fucking brilliant
felt so good to watch w an audience, like a feelings purge but w ecstatic joyful what the fuck is happening laughter

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 17 April 2022 21:46 (two months ago) link

For darn sure. That advance showing I caught was rollicking

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 April 2022 22:22 (two months ago) link

It was a blast even in a half-full theater. I can’t imagine seeing this for the first time on a laptop or something- wouldn’t be the same.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 17 April 2022 22:32 (two months ago) link

there were a group of teens in the back row & one of the girls was scream-laughing hysterically at almost every line & it was v funny

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 17 April 2022 23:04 (two months ago) link

great movie. usually i'm turned off by the level of heavy-handed emotional manipulation that was going on in this movie but it worked for me this time. it made me cry a little and i almost never cry at movies.

na (NA), Monday, 18 April 2022 14:05 (two months ago) link

saw the adult Ke Huy Quan in Finding 'Ohana a few months ago and while he basically had about sixty seconds of screen time in that I was like "damn he is super charismatic as an adult" so I'm glad he got a chance to really get a role he could sink his teeth into.

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 18 April 2022 16:22 (two months ago) link

The climactic fight scene is one of the greatest things I've ever watched.

castanuts (DJP), Monday, 18 April 2022 16:24 (two months ago) link

Last two posts otm

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 April 2022 16:26 (two months ago) link

I've spent the last week looking at random things and saying "even this _________ could be kung-fu!"

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 April 2022 16:27 (two months ago) link

everyone otm. I fucking hate papercuts though, that scene was worse for me than any horror/gore/squickfest

Roz, Monday, 18 April 2022 16:33 (two months ago) link

same. i have never squirmed so hard in my life

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 April 2022 16:43 (two months ago) link

for a minute i thought the challenges were only going to escalate from there and the movie would turn into a mindblowing version of jackass

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 April 2022 16:44 (two months ago) link

yeah i have more than a few qualms with this movie but he def isn't one of them

Murgatroid, Monday, 18 April 2022 20:47 (two months ago) link

imho Quan killed it across the board, as supportive weenie, interdimensional badass, and wistful Wong Kar-Wai guy. What was terrible???

Doctor Casino, Monday, 18 April 2022 21:00 (two months ago) link

ok ok sorry to be a h8r but you asked! i would describe his line reads as "sloppy" esp when switching between alphaworld guy and sadsack tax office guy.. but yes he is very likable and im rooting for him in general as a human

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 18 April 2022 21:02 (two months ago) link

and it was VERY VERY apparent when next to yeoh and hong who are very good with silly dialog

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 18 April 2022 21:03 (two months ago) link

Think this thread needs more Stephanie Hsu love.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 April 2022 21:16 (two months ago) link

really can't see that role being Awkwafina and not her, as much as I like Awkwafina

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 18 April 2022 21:37 (two months ago) link

So curious what the Awkwafina version would've been like, but she was outstanding, as was Quan

Nhex, Monday, 18 April 2022 21:52 (two months ago) link

Hsu is great on Awkwafina's show. Can't wait to see this.

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 18 April 2022 21:57 (two months ago) link

I hid behind my hands during the papercuts (and at a few other moments)

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 18 April 2022 22:22 (two months ago) link

The Raccooncoie (or whatever) payoff blew the roof of my showing and was shockingly satisfying, I was laughing hard

Despite how much fun I had with this I may never see it again. 10% of this movie was too much for me (papercuts, creatively repurposed IRS awards, finger reality [not for sexual orientation reasons]) though the other 90% was enough to win me over.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 18 April 2022 22:29 (two months ago) link

Have to wait til June, maybe July or longer, why are we going backwards, are we going back to the days when it taken forever for films to come to UK unless its Disney?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 00:09 (two months ago) link

Some good stuff

Everything Everywhere All At Once (2022) is known:

- in Mainland China as 瞬息全宇宙 (In an Instant, the Entire Universe)
- in Hong Kong as 奇異女俠玩救宇宙 (Weird Woman Warrior Fucks Around and Saves the Universe)
- in Taiwan as 媽的多重宇宙 (So Fucking Many Universes) pic.twitter.com/SRkh00vQyi

— Jeremy Tiang (@JeremyTiang) April 20, 2022



I need to also point out that 媽的 literally translates to “mother’s” and that the tagline next to the release date says “more mother bodhisattva than the mother bodhisattva” and I love that daniels is translated as 棒棒丹丹 (excellent Dans), this whole poster is *chef kiss* https://t.co/Ae36BoWxxb

— S. Qiouyi Lu 🧧 陸秋逸 (@sqiouyilu) April 20, 2022

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 13:32 (two months ago) link

Didn't laugh much and I thought it was overall weirdly claustrophobic (dozens of universes from the perspective of office buildings and the interior of a van). But I loved this. Some of my wife's family is in "please meet my daughter and her very good friend Jane" territory and I liked how that was handled here.

People wondering what sad Awkwafina would even look like, definitely check out "The Farewell".

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 23 April 2022 14:47 (two months ago) link

I also kinda resisted the set-bound "we're still at the IRS building?" quality. But I feel like it might play different for me on rewatch... knowing that's where we're staying, maybe I won't be antsy to see "more."

And thematically, I think there's something to it... seems like exactly the right place to catch yourself, at 60, wondering what the hell happened, how you ended up here talking to this functionary about the tax audit on your laundromat. To the extent that the movie's about a kind of generalized FOMO angst (which I think is only one very rich slice of its metaphors), the staggering banality of the settings works for me. I'm sure it also has to do with the $25 million budget - put the dollars into all those shots and setups, not flying around to locations and building (and trashing) more sets.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 23 April 2022 15:27 (two months ago) link

I mean that's also the thing about it, it generates a legit sf feel on the relative cheap, and it works. I really like that!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 April 2022 15:33 (two months ago) link

Agree. I just didn't know what I was getting into and was a bit surprised. fwiw I've seen next to no comic book movies. The performances were just great

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 23 April 2022 15:46 (two months ago) link

so I have a question.

how is it that Yeoh's 'home universe' at the end is one in which she went home to do the taxes, didn't do them, and then got an extension due to her husband.. and not the one in which she assaulted the IRS agent and her "husband" assaulted a bunch of cops.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 April 2022 16:20 (two months ago) link

good point, as apparently she has still smashed the place up. There's a lot you're just kind of asked to roll with i figure. Like in hotdog finger land we use our feet for so much and yet interior design is unchanged

but then all conceivable combinations are happening 😳

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 23 April 2022 17:45 (two months ago) link

I figured it was because she was so bad at everything and therefore could do anything , she actually healed some of the rifts between universes with her off the map jumping. Really want to watch this again.

Jaq, Saturday, 23 April 2022 18:32 (two months ago) link

i ended up concluding that that final exchange ISN'T about with the Evelyn we've been following all movie, but rather the one we met partway through, from the very similar but slightly different universe... the one where she leaves the IRS building peacefully after the meeting with JLC, but blows the 6 pm extension and turns all cynical at the laundromat party. in this interpretation, the "main" Evelyn's story concludes with pulling kiddo out of the bagel at the top of the stairs, and we don't see the immediate aftermath, only the ways it resonates across the other universes where Jobu Tabacky's nihilism had previously been poised to triumphant. i def don't have this all tidily worked out and might be reading it completely wrong, especially as it is a very odd way to conclude a story! but i kinda like the idea that if all the Evelyns equally matter, then it doesn't matter where we finish.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 23 April 2022 18:51 (two months ago) link

yup, i think that's right

Nhex, Saturday, 23 April 2022 18:53 (two months ago) link

“All Evelyns Matter”

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 23 April 2022 19:35 (two months ago) link

lol definitely not what i was going for there! just trying to invoke the nihilist vs. existentialist takes on 'nothing matters' at the core of the philosophical dispute at the film's climax

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 23 April 2022 21:26 (two months ago) link

something else i wanna watch for next time is the circle motif. I'm sure smarter people have already more thoroughly unpacked this, but it seems really intentional that the black bagel is formally the inverse of the lone googley eye (obvious i know, they're even similarly displayed on the forehead)... and yet both could also be derived from staring long enough at the washing machine. would be inclined to look for some more black circles next time. also seems significant that Evelyn's totem is something that actually comes from Waymond and which she rejects early on - she does have to go on a complete journey to get to where she can answer back to the void. all character arc 101 stuff but nicely done i thought. movie is overall so good at seeding things in small ways, in passing, then making a real meal out of it later.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 23 April 2022 21:39 (two months ago) link

that explanation makes sense. thanks all.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 April 2022 22:23 (two months ago) link

Think this thread needs more Stephanie Hsu love.

Yeah i just ADORED haute couture dripping w attitude Jobu

brisk money (lukas), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 19:38 (two months ago) link

Film of the year.

I dunno, it seems like RRR is giving it a run for its money. (Haven't seen either yet.)

― Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Saturday, 9 April 2022 16:34 (two weeks ago)

I've seen both twice now, and RRR beats EEAAO in terms of audacity, scope, action, comedy, emotion, songs, dance, sound mixing and kickflipped motorcycles. However, it is set in only ONE alternate universe. (They're about on par in terms of range of fighting styles.)

beepy fridges (sic), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 23:02 (two months ago) link

Saw this last night. It could easily have done everything it set out to do in 30-45 fewer minutes (there was SO MUCH switching back & forth between universes that didn’t advance the plot an iota. Still, so very worthwhile. Corny and completely surprising, manipulative and heartfelt, obvious and deep, fast-paced and drawn-out, cartoony and true: all dichotomies existing simultaneously & not needing to be resolved. The rock scene was perfectly timed to give the viewer a much-needed break. Loved how the final fight posited radical love instead of violence as the winning approach, obviously not a new concept but framing in a way that I’ve never quite seen a movie do before.

Very post-Nolan but also so many other things & not just another tediously “deep” high-concept SF philoso-venture. V much enjoyed. Might watch again (but probably not more than once).

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Sunday, 1 May 2022 12:49 (two months ago) link

Would have fallen HARD for this movie as a younger me & re-rented it weekly for months, I’m sure.

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Sunday, 1 May 2022 12:50 (two months ago) link

what is RRR?

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 1 May 2022 12:53 (two months ago) link

^^

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 1 May 2022 13:24 (two months ago) link

RRR was the #1 film at the global box office a few weeks ago, written and directed by S.S. Rajamouli. (My local American multiplex was showing it on three screens in Telugu, Tamil and Hindi.) It’s a joyous action epic about the emotion of platonic brotherhood, the pain of hiding one’s true self, and the eternal dichotomy of whether to overthrow the British through a violent nationwide revolt, or through direct assassination of Ray Stevenson. In a passing moment during an attempt to carry out the latter, one Brit gets whipped in the face with a leopard.

Yul Brynner film festival on Channel 48... (sic), Sunday, 1 May 2022 15:17 (two months ago) link

(RRR is the whole name: it was a working title for the project, which stars Rama Rao Jr and Ram Chan in a Rajamouli film; eventually they went “fuck it” and ran with it, working in a variety of semi-jokey intertitles that justify it.)

Yul Brynner film festival on Channel 48... (sic), Sunday, 1 May 2022 15:25 (two months ago) link

EEAAO playing in IMAX in USA this week BTW

Yul Brynner film festival on Channel 48... (sic), Sunday, 1 May 2022 16:29 (two months ago) link

I'm tempted to see a third time in IMAX

Nhex, Sunday, 1 May 2022 16:51 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

This was fantastic. I am 100% fine with having a trope-y love>hate story when it is done with this much heart. What stands as unique to me (in my limited cinema-vocabulary) is how they did it with so much "FUN". No room for melancholy or intellectual-vanity. It doesn't have a silly pride about its philosophical ideas (a la anything Nolan has done). What I loved the most was its ability to squeeze comedy into its most heart-felt moments (I don't care about supposed manipulation if I believe the message to be true, all cinema is propaganda). Racocoonie tragedy killed me.

hrep (H.P), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 01:33 (one month ago) link

I'd demur that there's room for melancholy, the sign on the room says "like Wong Kar-Wei". But yeah, this was amazing.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 22:24 (one month ago) link

loved this a lot, how it managed to tell a story that was massive and small at the same time. a lot of dream/multiverse movies struggle with the limitless possibility that their premise implies, but this didn’t suffer from lack of imagination or whirring plot mechanics for their own sake (like inception, and i haven’t seen the new doc strange, but I’ll just assume that one has the same problem)

i did not expect nearly this much action, so that was a pleasant surprise, especially considering how creative the fight scenes were

also, i am 99% positive that the scene with the rocks was filmed at canyonlands in utah, which i visited very recently. so that just added to the surreality

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Monday, 6 June 2022 04:58 (three weeks ago) link

Didn't realise RRR was on Netflix, although not in it's original language apparently :(

groovypanda, Friday, 10 June 2022 08:45 (three weeks ago) link

The actors did their own dubs, 100% of the dialogue is ADR even in Telugu, and it takes over 45 minutes before the first scene that doesn’t include at least one character speaking English (and another 20 before the second). I bet you wouldn’t notice if you didn’t know to look for it (I have not seen the Hindi tho)

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Friday, 10 June 2022 09:22 (three weeks ago) link

Ah, cheers

groovypanda, Friday, 10 June 2022 10:12 (three weeks ago) link

I didn't love this. I probably need to see RRR shortly.

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 06:35 (one week ago) link

For all its charms I didn't like this movie much, found it kind of annoying and too long by ... an hour? "RRR" is definitely pretty long itself, but I enjoyed almost every ridiculous minute of it.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 10:39 (one week ago) link

michelle yeoh was such a hosebag mom that she's dissolved the barriers that normally separate her daughter's metaversal existences; her daughter feels every possible infinite permutation of reality at the same time every second. and instead of this breaking the daughter's brain it has made her into a supervillain who wants to suck all of existence into a black hole of nihilism of her own creation. have i got that right?

yeah it feels almost churlish given the inventiveness and ingenuity and michelle yeoh but it felt like something wild and original had been contained and tamed

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 10:57 (one week ago) link

Found all the wacky shit and second-half speechifying very very grating but in the end liked this, maybe mostly for Yeoh and Quan.

woof, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 11:16 (one week ago) link

like the tagline was “her real superpower was…. unconditional love” or some shit

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 11:36 (one week ago) link

what worked the best for me was the glimpse of other lives, the regret for paths not taken, all the wong kar-wai stuff, which is difficult to resolve, maybe impossible.. i would have liked the movie to move around in that difficult area more

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 12:14 (one week ago) link

So, less dumb stuff, more serious stuff?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 12:58 (one week ago) link

no. there's an unresolvable difficulty about paths not taken that, when it was front and centre, was compelling. how did michelle yeoh end up in this shit universe doing thankless, backbreaking work, when she has it within her to be a star, a badass? is she going to do something about it? what about her husband? is a life with HIM worth giving up all this OTHER stuff? it can be serious or silly or both but to me it's interesting. much more so than, i dunno, figuring out how to say "i love you" to her daughter

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 13:08 (one week ago) link

To me there's plenty interesting here though... The Evelyn who saves the day is the one who never excelled at anything, and is so lost in the struggle to support the family in general, that she doesn't really see or hear its individual members (including Joy but also Waymond). The Joy she needs to reach is the one whose mother excelled beyond all prior human experience by pioneering dimensional travel... but saw her daughter as a tool or sacrifice in that project. And now this Evelyn has experienced all this multiversal potential of herself, but maybe because she's exactly who she is, she's able to come to some new conclusions and engage evil Joy in a way nobody else could. Idk. It's not a completely worked out reading obv.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 13:36 (one week ago) link


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