Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

I was cracking up at one scene with Carol Kane because she was doing the “I am in a musical singing my ass off on stage” face

you know, the one where you’ve spent years hearing about how you have to really project your voice on stage

oh ffs, stopped watching after 5 mins

*looks up from listening to the soundtrack* Sorry, you all say something?

i'm with Ned, this was hugely entertaining, some songs were better than others but fun and a la Once More With Feeling used the musical to do a lot of character and plot advancement

I would really have loved a Gilbert& Sullivan-esque bit. I thought one was upcoming when there was a scene where Uhura and/or Spock rattled off a ton of rapid technobabble... imagine that in a G&S showtune! That would have been the tits. But no, we had to have 4 versions of "let it go" instead.

it was fun but it’s nowhere close to what Once More W Feeling did as far as songcraft. not to be a snob about it but i maybe set the bar too high expecting something like that.
i mean I listened to that OMWF soundtrack for ~years~. But this, i didn’t find v many of these songs enjoyable as songs in their own right at all, they felt too over crammed w info, sort of over-wordy idk.

but i loved uhura’z song & laans song and i did really enjoy the episode overall

love that we got more Laan & Kirk, that was really well done & v moving

have to admit that i largely skipped through the songs (to the point where i missed the k(lingon)-pop.) not into musicals apart from 'jesus christ superstar' (my mom had the album when i was little) although also 'wicked' made me cry a few years ago ;_;

but it's fine, whatever. never saw buffy. weirdly it never bothered me when 'the magicians' broke into song, perhaps because it was so very campy from the start

You know who should have done a musical episode? Justified.

Nah, Breaking Bad.

Mad Men should have made this a full episode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKgPTkIulEI

Yeah I don’t think I ever wanna see that episode again but I’m glad it exists

I'm not into musicals (I have a very hard time concentrating on story delivered through lyrics) but I did like Chapel's swing number. I wish there were more dancing though!

Anyone clock Sam coming after Pike's crown for highest hair?

Any surprise that Laan was the biggest Belter of the cast?

does not bode well for captain batel and the cayuga

I refuse to believe anything bad will happen to Captain Dimples.

Even before the finale, this season is already guaranteed to be the most consistently good season of Star Trek ever. The first episode I would say was bad, and the memory loss episode was a mixed bag, but everything else has been great.

The Gorn episode of S1 was the worst episode of that season. Just a dreary episode, with that silly TOS monster being given a story that's far too dark for Trek. Hope they do a better job with the Gorn in this finale.

I didn't really get this either - I guess I just don't like contemporary musical theatre.

Bad hot take: is an episode like this to a US audience like watching Eurovision is for Europeans - there's some other levels you have to "get".

Thought it was awful sorry - hey, if you like Star Trek, you’ll probably love these mediocre songs written by unknowns for actors to try to sing. I love when they play with stuff a bit or lean into the camp, but expecting me to sit thru generic songs for half the episode was just dire.

Anyway all you haters above are wrong but more on that later.

But as for the new one: whew, not having kept track of all the series I can't say for sure but this definitely felt like the biggest 'to be continued...' since, you know, "Mr. Worf, fire." I should have guessed when those transporter signatures looked a little different near the end but figured out that we were heading to waiting on season 3 within the last minute. Now we wait...for longer than usual given the strikes. But in the meantime, one more piece of the TOS puzzle in place!

Holy crap, I never saw one of those in Stars Hollow before.

kinda wonder how many other people might have been alive when the cayuga smashed into the planet

"Hey look a ship has come to save us! Wait where are we going."

More fuel for the folks who think that Spock is basically a big jerk

that was cool - albeit in a pretty tonally conventional season finale kind of way

I wish these seasons were longer - like, not the old 26 eps but could definitely have handled another 4-5 hours of this

tbf spock is, canonically, kind of a jerk (but not *really*)

this spock is not yet that hard, but still ready to call the shot, as in the season 2 premiere

i don't feel like this was a great episode, and i wasn't into the musical, but i still think this series is easily the best exploration of these characters, TOS included

i'm not sure yet if it's good or bad that we (theoretically) already know their fates, but it remains possible that working within that framework will be great. i'm . . . cautiously optimistic(?) about it for the first time in forever

also i'm sorry but i'm flat-out gonna say it

ethan peck > leonard nimoy

He's great in the role! Leonard will always have it for me on the nostalgia level and more, but Peck's sharp in his own way.

exciting episode but maaaaan fuck to be continued finales I HATE WAITING

love leonard (although tbf he was no rollin hand) but like, often enough he just had to wear purple eye-shadow and lift an eyebrow while shitting on mccoy

there's half a century of lore now and peck absolutely does it justice while also expressing a much wider spectrum of emotions than leonard was ever called upon to do

feel like chapel/jess bush was the breakout star of the season, and, well, roger kirby will have to be extremely impressive. you know, before that other stuff

Still deeply impressed with her accent work. I don’t think I’ve heard it slip once.

Mm idk, I love Ethan Peck's Spock but this series is heavily leaning into his "human side" in the writing, and thus Peck's performance. Most of these two seasons so far, Peck seems to be a hormonal teenager barely keeping a lid on his explosive emotions, rather than Nimoy's extreme-blasé approach. Nimoy's Spock has a vibe that reminds me of a cork bulletin board on the wall of a corridor at a university. Peck feels more like a nerd having a late-onset puberty

And one interpretation of the character being older/more experienced than the other...I mean, works for me.

loved it when Spock shows that adult Gorn who is the boss in what was a cracking cliffhanger finale. I think I can vaguely remember seeing the og Gorn episode when I was a kid. I like the way these brutal egg laying nazi lizards communicate their terms with simple diagrams. I was looking up their st history and saw something about an unused scene from one of the movies shot for Riker's bachelor party which featured a Gorn who was a guest there as one of Worf's friends. Obv they used to be a bit more verbal and were socially polite enough not to lay eggs in fellow guests.

Making the Gorn a proto-Borg is kind of trite (and I guess the writers really want a race where Starfleet can kill without moral compunction, maybe they'll serve in part 2 but I have my doubts, since I didn't think the Klingon episode had much depth to it either), and the BOBW hook was frustrating more than anything for me.

I was thrilled (on this episode as with others) to see the crew on the bridge functioning as a unit, contributing to tactics and functionality, instead of the typical ways that problems have been historically resolved:

1. Captain orders x to press a button
2. Captain orders y to press a button
3. Captain orders z to press a button
4. Captain gets frustrated, doesn’t ask for help
5. Spock/Data/Wesley offers a solution

1.1 (visual representation of astronomical phenomenon roughly the size of a golf ball at a 20-meter distance)
1.2 enhance!

xpost Yeah that absolutely struck me as well, this last episode showcased the idea of a team functioning and everyone doing their roles to the best they could depending on where they found themselves. Smart!

Catching up and the episode with the Klingon general was totally a M.A.S.H ep

pretty sure that hawkeye never butchered his (enemies)? can't quite speak to him dealing with a half-assed yet righteous defector, although TNG did

Detailed interview with SNW cinematographer Benji Bakshi.
https://filmmakermagazine.com/122716-interview-cinematographer-benji-bakshi-star-trek-strange-new-worlds/

this is cool but also i don't think 'Each Episode is Like Its Own Movie' is really what people want?

i mean i would happily take shittier graphics or whatever for 15-20 episodes rather than ten

same with 'foundation' et al

bottle shows can be good

I agree, but also one of the things I love about this show is how lush it looks. I am tired of all my shows (Warrior, Perry Mason, even the SATC reboot) deteriorating to the point where they don't even have full-room sets, and everything is just people standing on a tiny set in front of a shitty green screen. Strange New Worlds has somehow always managed to look expensive, and I do want an element of that. Some sort of happy medium.

Trying to imagine this show with TNG/Voyager's "fluorescent office lighting" cinematography.

Yeah it looks gorge and that’s part of the appeal for me.

Absolutely agreed on this. It’s remarkable and great.

pike's hair is of course the most impressive special effect but the rest of it isn't far off, the quality of the cg often surpasses movie-quality - it's a remarkable achievement on a tv budget

still not entirely sold on the shiny black bridge tho tbh, doesn't feel properly trek in a way that the rest of the show absolutely does

maybe they’ll have an episode where they install carpet on the bridge

it's the one move the gorn couldn't possibility anticipate

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5yysJ6XkAABk73.jpg:small

I...didn't expect this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txQqpGr1qQw

The other one before it ("Skin a Cat") is also hilariously stupid.