Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

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We got a Kirk sighting

‘Star Trek: Strange New Worlds’ Finds Its James T. Kirk With Paul Wesley https://t.co/5TYFp8XYMe

— Deadline Hollywood (@DEADLINE) March 15, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 17 March 2022 22:19 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Okay, premiere episode today! Which I haven't seen yet but soon enough.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 May 2022 21:02 (two weeks ago) link

My natural scepticism kept me from fully enjoying the fan service bits. It was fine, I guess. Better a low-key opener that turns into something solid than an amazingly flashy and promising first episode that turns into me giving up on the show after a season and a half.

trishyb, Thursday, 5 May 2022 22:58 (two weeks ago) link

need a history of star trek sideburns

mookieproof, Friday, 6 May 2022 00:10 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah "low key opener" is a good way to describe it, it was fun and straightforward enough and got a reasonable amount of info dumping done. More than anything I absolutely think this nails the 'what if 1960s Big Ideas Optimistic Trek with 2020s production values' mode, so I'm already in for the rest of the season.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 May 2022 03:12 (two weeks ago) link

A little heavy handed toward the end but a solid B+, just happy to have a Trek episode where the survival of all existence doesn’t hinge on that 45 minutes.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 6 May 2022 03:56 (two weeks ago) link

ned otm

it succeeded in trying to do what TOS sometimes did, referring to current events but in a way that ~comforts~ the viewer, like trying to provide a modicum of hope as a mixer with the escapism & i appreciated the attempt because idk i kind of needed it right now? i finished the ep feeling like yes, this is how it should feel. i am a cornball though too so ymmv

it feels rooted in the past in ways that arent just fanservice so i hope that continues to pay off bc man i really love this cast

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 May 2022 06:05 (two weeks ago) link

Feels good to be hyped for next week's ST episode instead of wondering which kind of terrible it will be this time.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 6 May 2022 06:09 (two weeks ago) link

also La’an Noonien Singh/Christina Chong is A+

total Camina Drummer from Expanse vibes, freaked out for a minute bc i thought it was the same actor lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 May 2022 06:10 (two weeks ago) link

xpost otm

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 May 2022 06:10 (two weeks ago) link

My mom texted me to ask if that was Drummer and if their alien modifications were supposed to make them look like Buffy vampires.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 6 May 2022 06:16 (two weeks ago) link

lol <3

there’s something about forehead appliances in effects makeup, maybe bc they often widen the space between the eyes, it is SO easy to veer into that Buffy look, it’s weirdly common like i think ppl just accept that its an ok look. i kinda wish we could get away from it myself. it even happens in cgi.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 May 2022 06:27 (two weeks ago) link

the spock/t’pring scenes were great

worried about la’an’s surname(s), because enough already

anson mount’s hair is v. tall

mookieproof, Friday, 6 May 2022 12:40 (two weeks ago) link

Hmm, could have handled this differently.

https://gizmodo.com/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-ukraine-protest-footage-1848888151

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 May 2022 23:31 (two weeks ago) link

worried about la’an’s surname(s), because enough already

I get Noonien-Singh and Noonien-Soongh mixed up sometimes. I had to check which one this was. I do hope it's just a nod to tradition and it's not going to be A Thing.

trishyb, Saturday, 7 May 2022 12:49 (two weeks ago) link

Roffle

pic.twitter.com/0mgRGzBRSU

— joegross (@joegross) May 7, 2022

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 7 May 2022 17:16 (two weeks ago) link

omg totally! same energy as the kids would say

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 May 2022 18:58 (two weeks ago) link

Glad I'm not the only one thinking that was the Drummer actress. Was a bit surprised it wasn't when I looked at Imdb.

Quite fun 1st episode I guess.
Didn't quite get how much earlier it is.

Stevolende, Saturday, 7 May 2022 21:58 (two weeks ago) link

i thought this was good and so regretfully suppose i will continue paying paramount plus their trek tax for the next couple of months

spent probably a little too much time yesterday mentally workshopping convoluted scenarios whereby chris pike might avoid his melty fate, which probably means that i like the character

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Monday, 9 May 2022 01:34 (one week ago) link

omg that's my friend dan!!

sean gramophone, Monday, 9 May 2022 01:59 (one week ago) link

i really like that they introduced it so early on in Discovery, because it allows Mount to do more acting-wise with the character imo

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 9 May 2022 02:08 (one week ago) link

Yeah it has to be a given we know his fate, right? They cant fuck with that fact at least. Surely.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 9 May 2022 03:43 (one week ago) link

It’s canon a couple times over, and if they try to timey wimey it people will be pissed.

I thought this was fine and is a welcome change from Disco and Picard nonsense, but the limits of Trekian optimism butting heads with trying to comment on contemporary ills really showed some strain and the resolution felt way too easily gotten.

Star Trek: Strange New Wordles (Leee), Monday, 9 May 2022 04:14 (one week ago) link

anson's gonna melt, but it's like a decade away

somewhat awkward in that, while he talks about foreseeing his death, the melting won't actually kill him

this has not gone over well with disabled trek fans

just hope these characters can do something/anything better than being diverse and talking a lot. already like that one officer complaining about shit happening on her watch

mookieproof, Monday, 9 May 2022 04:24 (one week ago) link

yeah we can only hope

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 9 May 2022 04:52 (one week ago) link

i think that aspect adds dimension

ie pike seeing the future & ~interpreting~ it as his death

yet we know that isnt the case

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 9 May 2022 04:58 (one week ago) link

No I think he knows its not his death! He said something like "I saw my death... well, the death of me as I know me" or similar, suggesting what was left might as well have been dead? Which I can see disabled people having an issue with tbrh

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 9 May 2022 07:19 (one week ago) link

As for me, I cant get past thinking of it like this.

https://morbotron.com/meme/S04E12/541823.jpg?b64lines=IEdvIFsgQmVlcCBdIHlvdXJzZWxmLg==

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 9 May 2022 07:21 (one week ago) link

This was good: https://thatshelf.com/star-trek-discoverys-depiction-of-captain-pikes-disability-is-a-betrayal-of-roddenberrys-utopian-vision

"Betrayal" is a bit strong (I'm not sure Roddenberry had significant enough morals to betray) but the piece makes some good points without falling into fannish entitlement

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 9 May 2022 09:26 (one week ago) link

Oh and nu-Chapel seems great and I loved T'pring's retro-futurist makeup.

Star Trek: Strange New Wordles (Leee), Monday, 9 May 2022 21:13 (one week ago) link

Nu-Chapel seemed very familiar but then I realized it was just the Phoebe Bridgers hair, pretty sure I've never seen her in anything else.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 9 May 2022 22:13 (one week ago) link

I mean really, someone who is so disabled they cant move or speak and have to control a wheelchair with their mind and are just basically a floating head, doesnt sound like a life, disability advocacy is one thing but cmon. This isnt "the mere act of sitting in a wheelchair".

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 9 May 2022 22:21 (one week ago) link

I rather liked this new episode, had the exact setup of a classic one-off but with plenty of its own distinct touches and interactions between characters.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 May 2022 00:43 (one week ago) link

only 5 minutes into this new ep but just dropping in to say that Christopher Pike's high hair is doing a LOT of important work on this show

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Friday, 13 May 2022 01:22 (one week ago) link

already know more about pike's bridge crew than i've learned in four seasons about discovery's

take sides: pike's hair vs. spock's sideburns

i do think it's been well done so far, but i hope the entire season/series isn't haunted by pike's ~fate~. after all, he does love this job

mookieproof, Friday, 13 May 2022 02:06 (one week ago) link

this show is a real pleasure so far - absolutely nailing it but in an almost understated way

yep I reckon the character work is great (especially vs Disco) - that early scene in Pike's quarters had me grinning - feels like they have uncovered some ancient wisdom from a lost civilisation that "likeable characters that you wanna spend 1hr/week with" is a good TV formula

I've found the 'haunted by future' aspect quite interesting so far - feels like they might be building it into a slow burn plot development rather than just brooding about it? as you say mookieproof, it has been done with a fairly light touch thus far - I'm sure the device must have been used before? but it definitely adds something here, and I think stops Pike from being a bit one dimensional... and dare I say even adds a touch of profundity to the whole thing?

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Friday, 13 May 2022 02:36 (one week ago) link

Some very bad CGI this week, not a big deal but the Shepherd captain on the view screen looked baaaaaad.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 13 May 2022 04:17 (one week ago) link

Some very bad CGI this week, not a big deal but the Shepherd captain on the view screen looked baaaaaad.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 13 May 2022 04:17 (one week ago) link

Some very bad CGI this week, not a big deal but the Shepherd captain on the view screen looked baaaaaad.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 13 May 2022 04:17 (one week ago) link

kept getting an error in Safari, oops.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 13 May 2022 04:18 (one week ago) link

tbf he was probably actually clint howard in prosthetics

mookieproof, Friday, 13 May 2022 04:20 (one week ago) link

no need to bang on about it milo jeez <3

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 May 2022 22:01 (one week ago) link

Rob Bricken with a solid rave for the show that hits a lot of good points we've mentioned in the thread and elsewhere:

https://gizmodo.com/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-tv-paramount-plus-pike-spo-1848923327

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 May 2022 23:53 (one week ago) link

i just noticed spock’s sideburns have a slightly arty curve to them & i hate it

pike’s hair however is majestic & i am here for it

really enjoyed this ep,

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 May 2022 05:38 (one week ago) link

I am hoping his hair gets higher every episode.

trishyb, Saturday, 14 May 2022 11:25 (one week ago) link

I kept thinking of this
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/41/84/67/418467cb44c622620a11d8186fa94fdb.jpg
except I was remembering it as going up wards as well as forward.

Maybe memory incorporating bits of one or both of these which are of a similar vintage I think. Certainly saw them a couple of decades back
https://cdn.onebauer.media/one/empire-tmdb/films/45145/images/tTagCxKrhFlM5N0TEHQLqrnnf7V.jpg?format=jpg&quality=80&width=960&height=540&ratio=16-9&resize=aspectfill

Stevolende, Saturday, 14 May 2022 11:56 (one week ago) link

i just noticed spock’s sideburns have a slightly arty curve to them & i hate it

That's how he shows emotion. When pon farr hits they turn into majestic whorls.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 May 2022 14:23 (one week ago) link

lmao

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 May 2022 17:47 (one week ago) link

I thought the editing was a little slack, but as stated making these characters believable people with real personalities is a welcome change of pace from Disco.

I'm warming up to Peck, I'm pretty sure that his "I apply rigorous logic to defuse tension" was meant as a joke and his little look of disappointment at Uhura not acknowledging it was a small treasure.

Santa Barbarous (Leee), Saturday, 14 May 2022 20:09 (one week ago) link

yeah i loved that

i think peck is great, but i was a fan from the off when he first showed up in Disco

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 May 2022 20:50 (one week ago) link

i understand that avoiding contractions and insisting on 'the = thee' and 'a = long a' is a handy way to make him seem alien, but i don't really recall nimoy (or jolene blalock) doing that?

nimoy definitely did the sense-ors thing that lower decks made fun of tho

in any case, i think peck's pretty good

mookieproof, Saturday, 14 May 2022 21:11 (one week ago) link

Yeah Peck's solid; it's a hell of a thing to be the actor to take on an utterly iconic role -- and the second one to do it at that -- but he seems to have it pitched just right.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 May 2022 00:01 (one week ago) link

yeah i think both he & quinto both have acquitted themselves really well, avoiding doing an impression but honoring what’s been established if that makes sense - a difficult balancing act to be sure

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 15 May 2022 00:09 (one week ago) link

peck has a lovely sonorous tone to his voice too which i love

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 15 May 2022 00:10 (one week ago) link


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