Down With the Sickness: Canadian Politics 2022

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Ontario and Quebec lock down while BC opens up.

treat the gelignite tenderly for me (Sund4r), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 15:30 (ten months ago) link

Finding it hard to not agree with McKenna at this point tbh:

The lack of a more sophisticated understanding of risk by governments 2 yrs into the pandemic - especially now that we have tools in our toolbox like vaccines, masking, rapid tests, better ventilation - is brutal. Closing schools, stopping "elective" surgeries have huge costs.

— Catherine McKenna (@cathmckenna) January 4, 2022

treat the gelignite tenderly for me (Sund4r), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 15:31 (ten months ago) link

I'm on a remote supply job right now, rotating coverage. I could write three or four hundred words on how painfully not-ready this school is to resume online classes.

clemenza, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 16:12 (ten months ago) link

Expediting the process to accredit internationally educated nurses (and other health care professionals) - I was wondering why this wasn't one of the first things they did:

NEW - Liberal Leader Steven Del Duca calls on Premier Ford to implement a number of measures including asking the federal government for military assistance for Ontario nursing homes and hospitals, recalling the Legislature, & get internationally educated nurses credentialled.

— Richard Southern (@RichardCityNews) January 5, 2022

treat the gelignite tenderly for me (Sund4r), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 16:50 (ten months ago) link

Today's COVID-19 briefing in B.C. marks a significant shift in the province's fight against the virus.
Businesses and people know what to do to prevent spread.
Health orders are not the long term solution. #bcpoli
— Richard Zussman (@richardzussman) January 4, 2022
― symsymsym, Tuesday, January 4, 2022 7:32 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

do find this very funny. we had a bunch of restrictions when the daily case count was like 50. we also have a bunch of orders in place now. are they going to let them age out and not make anymore regardless? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

otoh I had covid a while ago, I now know so many people with it (none severely), for the first time in the pandemic. can't get too exorcised about this personally

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 19:55 (ten months ago) link

exorcised? what was I thinking lol

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 20:14 (ten months ago) link

I laughed when I saw that earlier today, was going to make a joke, but my own posts are littered with typos.

clemenza, Thursday, 6 January 2022 03:25 (ten months ago) link

hospitalizations and deaths still flat or trending down in BC according to this (caveat: data 3 days old)

flopson, Thursday, 6 January 2022 19:21 (ten months ago) link

more recent data does show a rise in hospitalizations. hard to see a significant ICU trend at this point I guess

317 hospitalizations for #COVID19 in B.C. now, up from 298 yesterday and a 54% increase in the last week.

ICU cases down three, no deaths, and rolling average continues going up.

Today's chart.

— Justin McElroy (@j_mcelroy) January 5, 2022

symsymsym, Thursday, 6 January 2022 19:39 (ten months ago) link

thx! i'm constantly frustrated by how infrequently they update the data on hospitalizations on that dashboard (which i otherwise like a lot). i'm not sure where justin gets it. i was bummed when he stopped daily updating his covid by the numbers page on cbc

flopson, Friday, 7 January 2022 01:17 (ten months ago) link

the jump in hospitalisations in quebec last week was pretty scary, but still no real ICU action there either

flopson, Friday, 7 January 2022 01:18 (ten months ago) link

that's reassuring that there hasn't been an ICU rise there. big rise in hospitalization could still wreak havoc of course...I wonder what pctg of the ICU numbers are Omicron. Not that I expect that data to be available anytime soon

symsymsym, Friday, 7 January 2022 01:31 (ten months ago) link

I would imagine there’s actually always an increase in those stats in Canadian hospitals this time of year. Seems the biggest problem (and probably why few are acknowledging it) is because healthcare staffing has collapsed to the point they can’t even handle normal numbers.

Kim, Friday, 7 January 2022 15:29 (ten months ago) link

Libs plan to increase funding to CBC, with a goal of reducing private advertising, ultimately eliminating it during news and public affairs shows:

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 02:35 (ten months ago) link

Recently, I looked into what came of the new francophone university in Toronto, which had been discussed in these threads. It seems... puzzling. It opened in September, with something like 130-150 students (my high school had 2000), 75% of whom were international students. It offers degrees in four disciplines, none of which sound like programmes I've heard of at any other university: Studies in Digital Culture, Studies in Human Plurality, Studies in Urban Environments, and Studies in Economy and Social Innovation. You can also take 'microprogrammes' that lead to 'micro-certificates'. Meanwhile, the province let Laurentian University, a bilingual and tricultural university located in a non-overpopulated and more bilingual (in the English/French sense) city, go bankrupt last year. (My bias being that my partner had been contracted to teach online courses at Laurentian just before that happened + I had a family member that taught there as a career when I was growing up.)

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 02:47 (ten months ago) link

this was a pretty stupid thing to do:

symsymsym, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 05:17 (ten months ago) link

If I'm understanding, Singh's wife was essentially being paid (in kind) to advertise the chair in the first place? Seems pretty dumb, if relatively small potatoes.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 14:01 (ten months ago) link

This take, which I'm seeing right wingers melt down about on Twitter, seems curious:

For one thing, as I understand it, the feds already backtracked on requiring vaccination for Canadian truckers returning from the US a week ago, which Lilley doesn't mention at all. Did something change?:

For another, the US is imposing the same rules at their border. But also, why would there be so many unvaccinated truck drivers in the first place, as to create the kinds of issues described here?:
Isn't the US requiring vaccination in all larger trucking firms anyway?

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 14:16 (ten months ago) link

I don’t think they actually did backtrack on that, though it was reported for a while. It was an “error”

I’ll promote those monte chairs for free, lol. Splurged on one with the first kid 14 years ago, and it’s still well loved - in fact I’m sitting in it right now.

Kim, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 14:49 (ten months ago) link

Ah, OK.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 14:56 (ten months ago) link

This is the dumbest shit:

Most infuriating:

Ottawa Public Health has closed two vaccination clinics in the Glebe and Lowertown in anticipation of traffic disruptions this weekend.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 28 January 2022 16:48 (ten months ago) link

I hadn't realized Tories like Pierre Poilievre and Andrew Scheer are actually backing this nonsense.

Thank you Truckers! Trudeau is attacking personal liberty and threatening everyone's ability to get groceries because of his overreach on vaccine mandates. He is the biggest threat to freedom in Canada.

— Andrew Scheer (@AndrewScheer) January 24, 2022

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 28 January 2022 16:59 (ten months ago) link

isn't O'Toole meeting them too?

rob, Friday, 28 January 2022 17:04 (ten months ago) link

Think there's going to be a riot?

jmm, Friday, 28 January 2022 17:04 (ten months ago) link

hm Erin kind of splitting the difference I guess:

rob, Friday, 28 January 2022 17:06 (ten months ago) link

Parliament Hill is a 10-15 minute walk from my apartment. I'm a little curious to rubberneck at this. Hope I'll still be able to get groceries today.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 28 January 2022 17:14 (ten months ago) link

Curiosity got the better of me. I left my mask on, thinking it would be enough of a signal that I wasn't there in support. They had shut down much less of the downtown core than I'd feared. Until I got up to Queen St., there wasn't too much of a presence. White guys with beards, a lot of horns, and obv vehicles that take up space, a bunch of "FUCK TRUDEAU" signs and a lot of flags. At the same time, a protest where most people are staying in their vehicles is less impressive than people actually getting out there in person - and ironically socially distanced.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 28 January 2022 19:58 (ten months ago) link

Also kind of silly considering the city is still mostly locked down and Parliamentary staff are afaik mostly working from home.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 28 January 2022 20:14 (ten months ago) link

Users on social media have miscaptioned videos and photos claiming to show the "Freedom Convoy" protest in Canada over the government’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate for truckers. The thread below includes some examples.

— Reuters Fact Check (@ReutersFacts) January 27, 2022

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Saturday, 29 January 2022 15:10 (nine months ago) link

This is consistent with what I've seen so far - mostly honking SUVs, vans, cars, with the odd truck in there:

If its so big and so great, why all the fake shit? I’ve yet to see a photo of an actual truck convoy. Cars and SUV’s don’t really count.

— Vicki Campbell 🇨🇦 (@merry123459) January 29, 2022

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Saturday, 29 January 2022 15:10 (nine months ago) link

This sounds like the supposed trucker protest in DC during the Obama years when one of the few truckers who actually showed up wailed into his CB “where is everybody?!”

Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 29 January 2022 17:49 (nine months ago) link

From Reddit:

A friend in downtown told me that all the porta-potties are full of shit now. Can’t be used

There is no place to poop

jmm, Saturday, 29 January 2022 20:13 (nine months ago) link

Ugh, ok, downtown is way more clogged today. Still seeing more SUVs than trucks. Eventually I started giving the finger to anyone who honked or walked by with a sign or flag when I was stuck in stationary traffic around the corner from home.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Saturday, 29 January 2022 23:06 (nine months ago) link

Sorry to have infected your country with our shit.

Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 29 January 2022 23:17 (nine months ago) link

they were honking up and down burrard street all afternoon. carhorn protests are really the most annoying form of protest

symsymsym, Sunday, 30 January 2022 00:01 (nine months ago) link

Hanging an upside-down flag on the Terry Fox monument really seems to crystallize everything these people stand for.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 30 January 2022 00:03 (nine months ago) link

This statistic is striking considering how white the protest is:

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 30 January 2022 00:08 (nine months ago) link

Ooh, that is enraging.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 30 January 2022 00:09 (nine months ago) link

I passed the Vancouver protest earlier on when it was out in East Van - 1st and Grandview Hwy roughly. Surprisingly there were a lot of vehicles. Hundreds. Then the people on the street corners cheering them going past and waving PPC signs were mostly Asian. When I got home my next door neighbor was setting off to join them lol. Makes no sense.

everything, Sunday, 30 January 2022 00:19 (nine months ago) link


I have seen exactly one visible minority openly participating or supporting this here so far. But good to hear other perspectives - never good to stereotype.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 30 January 2022 00:24 (nine months ago) link

Lot of Asian people in the neighbourhood, but still...

everything, Sunday, 30 January 2022 00:55 (nine months ago) link

This video, shared by a supporter, looks, uh, consistent in demographics with what I've been observing around here:

Are you serious man

— David Laflamme (@davidlaflammme) January 29, 2022

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 30 January 2022 05:27 (nine months ago) link

also in beards

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 30 January 2022 05:27 (nine months ago) link

Sorry, don't want to misrepresent what was going on...the protest did look to be all white guys tbh but on the two or three main intersections along the way there was little crowds of people with canada flags and ppc signs and there were lots of non white people there. Probably faith groups from the suburbs?

everything, Sunday, 30 January 2022 09:07 (nine months ago) link

Nice and quiet this morning

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 30 January 2022 14:30 (nine months ago) link

Today will almost certainly be the last 'big' day. An employee at the hotel I'm at say more or less *everybody* who checked in Friday and Saturday are checking out today.

Obviously, the long-haulers are going to stay nestled in their trucks when Parliament resumes Monday.

— Justin Ling (@Justin_Ling) January 30, 2022

jmm, Sunday, 30 January 2022 14:47 (nine months ago) link

Spoke too soon. Horns just started up again.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 30 January 2022 14:49 (nine months ago) link


From CBC: Edmonton MP on Parliament Hill handing out coffee to protestors, with upside-down Canadian flag with swastika in background. Disgraceful. #FluTruxKlan #FluTrucksKlan #KarenKonvoy

— Barre Campbell (@bgrantcampbell) January 29, 2022

Punster McPunisher, Sunday, 30 January 2022 18:35 (nine months ago) link

i'm just catching up with all of this and apparently there were more nazi and confederate flags being flown at these protests in various cities.

these people are so utterly confused. you can't even have a rational discussion with them

Punster McPunisher, Sunday, 30 January 2022 18:57 (nine months ago) link

yeah I'm pretty uncaffeinated here too! my take is the writer didn't mean to write a defence of hungary's racist attitude to refugees, but as you say the human interest details make the point of view incoherent at best

symsymsym, Thursday, 31 March 2022 15:28 (seven months ago) link

Can the National Capital Region just get its own jurisdiction already now that even Ford doesn't recognize Ottawa as part of Ontario?

I am honoured to welcome Her Excellency the Right Honourable Mary Simon on her first official visit to our province.@GGCanada #GGSimon is a role model to so many people across Canada & I look forward to seeing her important work continue during this vital time for our country.

— Doug Ford (@fordnation) March 31, 2022

And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Friday, 1 April 2022 15:29 (seven months ago) link

Ha, OK, it seems odd that you can say how someone who already lives in a province is "visiting" that same province, whether 'official' or otherwise, but it does look like she used the same language herself so I guess I just didn't know the political terminology:

And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Friday, 1 April 2022 15:47 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

Last night I had a triple generation encounter with my least-favourite family: while walking by Douglas B. F*** Park in Etobicoke, I received a phone call from Premier Doug F*** asking me to put a sign for Michael F*** on my lawn. The PCs regularly come third in my riding, I hope splitting between the NDP and Liberals doesn't let this guy win.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 01:55 (six months ago) link

A 31-year-old Toronto woman who uses a wheelchair is nearing final approval for a medically assisted death request after a fruitless bid to secure an affordable apartment that doesn't worsen her chronic illnesses.

The looming approval for death surprisingly, makes her grateful. "Relieved and elated," Denise said in an interview with CTV News. "I was scared that they weren't going to say ‘yes’," she said...

...Her story is disturbingly similar to one reported by CTV earlier in April. Sophia also suffered from Multiple Chemical Sensitivities. She received a medically assisted death in February, after fruitless attempts to get an apartment away from smoke and chemicals in her building. Denise said she started the paperwork on her request for MAiD in the summer of 2021, long before Sophia's story went public...

The larger issue of the purpose of medically assisted death in Canada also comes into play, say disability rights advocates. Initially approved by the Senate as a way of alleviating the suffering of those near death, it was expanded in March 2021 to those with chronic illnesses and disabilities.

"We've now gone on to basically solving the deficiencies in our social safety net through this horrific backdoor, not that anybody meant it that way, but that's what it's turned into," said David Lepofsky, disability advocate and Visiting Professor of Disability Rights at the Osgoode Hall Law School.

"With the right support, I have no doubt people with disabilities can live well in society. We all want people with disabilities to know that their lives have value," said Kobluk.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 9 May 2022 16:19 (six months ago) link

three weeks pass...


No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 June 2022 19:39 (five months ago) link


Harden was good during the protest, imo. Felt like an easy vote.

jmm, Thursday, 2 June 2022 20:16 (five months ago) link

Didn't realize there was a Nate Silver-type site that tracks this:

God, not even close.

clemenza, Thursday, 2 June 2022 21:29 (five months ago) link

Yeah, we’re fucked.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Thursday, 2 June 2022 22:08 (five months ago) link


FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 2 June 2022 22:11 (five months ago) link

My wife is working at a poll tonight on behalf of the NDP, who are the incumbents here.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 2 June 2022 22:15 (five months ago) link

I usually think of Eric Grenier as the Canadian Nate Silver:

PCs are probably cruising to a win provincially but Harden is also going to win this riding easily. We've been volunteering with his campaign as he actually got results for our own concerns during the pandemic and I agree he was great during the occupation. More effective in Opposition than a lot of MP/Ps are in government (including Naqvi federally). Horwath herself a major disappointment, though.

And why are the Liberals running on bringing back Grade 13?? Every other province and state functions fine without it.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 June 2022 23:00 (five months ago) link

I expected a Tory win. I didn't expect them to gain seats. As the little local victories go, Harden won by a wide margin and the NDP flipped the suburban riding of Ottawa West-Nepean, which had been held by a Tory and which is the kind of seat they need to start winning if they're going to have a chance at winning an election. Grits still don't have official party status.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 3 June 2022 04:02 (five months ago) link

This isn’t just the lowest turnout in Ontario history. It’s close to being the lowest in Canadian history — behind only Alberta in 2008 (40.6%).

— Andrew Coyne 🇺🇦 (@acoyne) June 3, 2022

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 3 June 2022 23:42 (five months ago) link

Heard that on the radio. He got 40% of the 42% of the province that voted--a big majority with 16-17% support. It's not like he's actually popular.

clemenza, Saturday, 4 June 2022 00:29 (five months ago) link

Harden was good during the protest, imo. Felt like an easy vote.

So he actually won the most votes of any candidate (and apparently a higher share of the riding vote in any federal or provincial election since 1968).

.@JoelHardenONDP was the ONLY candidate across Ontario to break 30,000 votes this election.

This is what a grassroots, democratic model of organizing can do.

Time to bring that model to every NDP riding association across the province.

— Sam Hersh (@SamHersh01) June 3, 2022

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 4 June 2022 01:46 (five months ago) link

This made me wonder if he's planning on a leadership bid:

Shortly before NDP leader Andrea Horwath announced she would step down as leader of the party, Harden said it was time for new leadership.

"I want to congratulate Andrea for leading us four times into four election campaigns. I was asked in French if I think we need a change in leadership, I do!" Harden said.

jmm, Saturday, 4 June 2022 03:27 (five months ago) link

I think everyone (including Horwath) thought they needed a change in leadership tbf but yeah, it seems natural that the thought would at least arise now. Some discussion of it here:

Tbh, his constituency work has been so strong and I would worry a bit about losing that if he became leader.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 4 June 2022 17:36 (five months ago) link

After killing his mother, Ryan Grantham started driving to Ottawa with guns, Molotov cocktails and camping supplies to assassinate Trudeau before he had a change of heart and turned around. Definitely one of the stranger episodes in Canadian political history:

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 16 June 2022 23:40 (five months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Not really politics, but the entire country's semi-paralyzed at the moment by a nationwide Rogers outage. I'm posting from a library that uses a different local provider--at home, no internet/phone/TV.

clemenza, Friday, 8 July 2022 15:24 (four months ago) link

Internet is working for me, but no phone or texts at the moment.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 8 July 2022 15:31 (four months ago) link

Videotron is fine -- have we seceded and I missed it?

rob, Friday, 8 July 2022 15:33 (four months ago) link

also, I ofc get what you mean clemenza, but I know a few people who would vehemently disagree that this isn't really politics!

rob, Friday, 8 July 2022 15:34 (four months ago) link

Definitely political from a monopoly standpoint, isn't it? This really shouldn't be allowed to happen. (Says the guy whose internet/phone/TV is provided by Rogers.)

Quadro is pretty common where I live, so there are least three places in town where I'll have Wi-Fi access until this is resolved, including, I discovered today for the first time since I moved here, a park at the end of my street.

clemenza, Friday, 8 July 2022 18:15 (four months ago) link

Heard on the radio that the communications minister (or whatever--might have even been an opposition critic) is calling for refunds. "Dream on" is my first reaction. Businesses should definitely get some compensation--the local restaurant I went to for dinner had closed down for the day. (Not really sure why they couldn't deal in cash; everywhere else seems to be open on a cash basis.)

clemenza, Friday, 8 July 2022 21:10 (four months ago) link

Yeah we lost all Internet and mobile service on Friday. Seems ludicrous that so much of the country, including essential public services, depends on this shitty private company. Why are telecommunications and media so monopolistic/oligopolistic in this country? We're switching our mobile service away (to a different corporate oligarch).

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 10 July 2022 16:05 (four months ago) link

Why are telecommunications and media so monopolistic/oligopolistic in this country?

usual answer is big country + low population requires large fixed costs for poor unit economics so it's only worth it for a few large firms to enter

but it does seem like things could be significantly less shitty with the given constraints

flopson, Sunday, 10 July 2022 16:23 (four months ago) link

Yeah, or at least, if that's the case, that there should be a public utility in the market as well. This is the case in Saskatchewan, where it seems to work OK. Are the US companies prohibited by law from entering the market or does it not seem worth it to them? Seems like that would shift the unit economics if we're talking about a US/Canada market, as opposed to just Canada.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 10 July 2022 16:38 (four months ago) link

I found myself reading about both Anne Frank white privilege discourse and the KHive this morning and realized I probably need another Internet outage already.

As far as politics goes, has anyone seen any movement on anything the Liberal-NDP accord promised?

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 11 July 2022 15:37 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

solidarity with this brave bee:

rob, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:06 (three months ago) link

four weeks pass...


symsymsym, Sunday, 11 September 2022 15:28 (two months ago) link

Yeah, at least we have three more years before a general election. Poilievre's acceptance speech was dishearteningly effective imo, striking all the right notes for his audience: starting off with a couple of minutes on the Queen (who, paraphrasing, was the "most powerful woman in the world, though she might have recoiled from the title") culminating in a "God save the King"; hammering home how his victory is a victory for YOU and your ability to hold on to YOUR paycheque vs "Liberal inflation" and the dishonest claim that Trudeau has doubled the debt, adding more than every previous government combined; and, in French, saying that Quebec should be a model for the rest of the country in how it "stands up to wokism" and unapologetically fights to preserve its heritage and culture (at a time when Legault has been talking about restricting immigration in order to protect Quebec's culture from "violence and extremism").

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 12 September 2022 03:10 (two months ago) link

I thought this, from a couple of weeks ago, was pretty thorough on some of the issues with the looseness of Canada's euthanasia/MAiD laws, with a number of disturbing examples:

— Unlike Belgium and the Netherlands, where euthanasia has been legal for two decades, Canada doesn’t have monthly commissions to review potentially troubling cases, although it does publish yearly reports of euthanasia trends.

— Canada is the only country that allows nurse practitioners, not just doctors, to end patients’ lives. Medical authorities in its two largest provinces, Ontario and Quebec, explicitly instruct doctors not to indicate on death certificates if people died from euthanasia.

— Belgian doctors are advised to avoid mentioning euthanasia to patients since it could be misinterpreted as medical advice. The Australian state of Victoria forbids doctors from raising euthanasia with patients. There are no such restrictions in Canada. The association of Canadian health professionals who provide euthanasia tells physicians and nurses to inform patients if they might qualify to be killed, as one of their possible “clinical care options.”

— Canadian patients are not required to have exhausted all treatment alternatives before seeking euthanasia, as is the case in Belgium and the Netherlands.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 12 September 2022 03:12 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

La déprime.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:35 (one month ago) link

Yeah what I gathered of the CAQ campaign this time was despicable anti-immigrant scapegoating. That it's paying off so well is depressing, as you say. I'm a bit shocked they're even leading in Hull.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:56 (one month ago) link

Jmm, have you been following the Ottawa municipal campaign? Catherine McKenney, my leftist nonbinary councillor who has been v good at hammering Watson's crowd for their terrible handling of the convoy occupation and the transit fiasco, actually has a pretty solid lead in the polls for the mayoral race but the many undecided voters could shift things:

Our newest polling in the Ottawa mayoral race has McKenney sitting 14-points ahead of Sutcliffe

But a quarter of voters are still undecided!

— Mainstreet Research (@MainStResearch) September 15, 2022

Greg 'Jreg' Guevara, a Youtube comedian I already enjoyed, has been running a hilarious satirical campaign to separate from Canada, build a wall around the city and declare Frenglish the national language. It still manages to be less of a shitpost than the actual governance of the city has been for the last four years. Really enjoying his debate contributions.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 01:13 (one month ago) link

Yesterday's Quebec election result was expected but nevertheless depressing.

It's also crazy that we now have five different parties with 13% or more of the vote. I would have thought this was maybe the PQs last election, but they somehow managed to get the most charismatic party leader I've seen in a long time and somehow ran a nearly flawless campaign and all of a sudden they are back in the mix. I could totally see them winning the next election in 4 years with this guy once everyone is tired of the CAQ/François Legault.

silverfish, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 14:41 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

so this notwithstanding business is some bullshit.
i would expect the province run by cons to fuck with the union and daring them to strike etc. i don't like it – but expected.
but busting out section 33 at the drop of a hat is fucking insane. i am worried too many parents will start blaming teachers and believing the dishonest bs making the rounds.
but my naive hope is these really shitty, heavy handed measures will have more blowback for that piece shit ford and his clowns than they anticipated

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:14 (three weeks ago) link

I wish there were a better name for it than the notwithstanding clause.

The Fuck Your Rights and Freedoms Clause maybe.

jmm, Friday, 4 November 2022 20:34 (three weeks ago) link


rob, Friday, 4 November 2022 20:50 (three weeks ago) link

might be my Toronto bubble speaking but from what i see, most parents see it for what it is (Ford and Lecce's fault)

Murgatroid, Friday, 4 November 2022 21:02 (three weeks ago) link

I drove past the picket lines in Sarnia yesterday and it seemed most everyone was honking in support. Pretty sure everyone knows it’s Ford (not that things like this ever stop him getting re-elected)

an incomprehensible borefest full of elves (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 5 November 2022 22:09 (three weeks ago) link

i am worried too many parents will start blaming teachers

Started under Mike Harris, and I don't know that it's ever stopped. I always say that parents like their own school and their child's teacher, but broadly speaking, most say (or vote like) they don't like teachers. Just my impression.

clemenza, Saturday, 5 November 2022 22:45 (three weeks ago) link

Afaik this strike doesn't have anything to do with teachers? At least locally, it's support staff, such as custodians, who are striking. Kids still have some online classes.

OK yep:

Many schools are closed as a result of the job action by the union, which represents custodians, administrative staff, education assistants, bus drivers and librarians.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 November 2022 23:13 (three weeks ago) link


While I strongly dislike Quebec's use of the notwithstanding clause to override Charter rights, I can recognize that they do it on issues of principle, such as secularism or protecting the French language, that are important to those leaders and their constituents and that extend beyond a current dispute. Ford's use of this for, essentially, the sake of convenience in steamrolling over contract negotiations is both incredible and vmic for a leader who has demonstrated few principles other than expediency. Coyne suggested a fairly radical solution for the feds that I am tempted to agree with in this case:

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 November 2022 23:17 (three weeks ago) link

Nothing to do with teachers, no. But I've heard people on call-in shows say that the teachers are using this showdown for their own nefarious ends later in the year.

Strange, but the board I supply for now, none of the support staff is CUPE. So we're not affected at all. The boards that have brought back online, that really puts those teachers in an awkward spot; they're essentially undermining all the support staff by teaching online. I know they don't want to, but they have to.

clemenza, Saturday, 5 November 2022 23:40 (three weeks ago) link

Well, that was quick. I honestly think Ford would nationalize the banks and convert all schools to kibbutzim if the polls and his donors appeared to favour it. (Now if only we can get the public and donors to mobilize for health care and home care...)

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 7 November 2022 18:08 (three weeks ago) link

i'm not going to call this a "victory" until there's a fair deal in place

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 16:24 (two weeks ago) link

Last-minute deal: surprised.

clemenza, Monday, 21 November 2022 02:01 (one week ago) link

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