Have we anticipated Wes Anderson's 'The French Dispatch' enough?

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is it good?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 November 2021 15:36 (two months ago) link

It is beautifully staged. But I'm strangely butthurt about its lèse-majesté towards The New Yorker, when I know TNY became a parody of itself ages ago.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Thursday, 4 November 2021 16:10 (two months ago) link

is it good?

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

If you agree with his mockery of French revolutionaries, Abstract Expressionist criticism, and maybe food writing, sure. Its holiday from reality is what his fans want, I guess, but eh

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 November 2021 18:59 (two months ago) link

The absolute temerity to mock abstract expressionist criticism and maybe food writing

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 4 November 2021 19:08 (two months ago) link

It's pretty good imo

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 4 November 2021 19:09 (two months ago) link

The absolute temerity to mock abstract expressionist criticism and maybe food writing

― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten),

The coolness about not caring about anything

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 November 2021 19:13 (two months ago) link

Comedy often originates from the perspective of lord-what-fools-these-mortals-be. Since that perspective also assumes we must temporarily ascend to the height of the immortal gods it presupposes absolute temerity.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 4 November 2021 19:23 (two months ago) link

That parody of May '68 was weirdly right-wing, totally dismissive of the concerns, ideas, and accomplishments of that movement. Anderson has never been a political filmmaker, and this was a really rough place for him to start. I think he just likes the aesthetic of that moment as received from Godard films, but he's utterly unconcerned with the substance of it.

OneSecondBefore, Thursday, 4 November 2021 21:28 (two months ago) link

I think he just likes the aesthetic of that moment as received from Godard films, but he's utterly unconcerned with the substance of it.

I haven't seen this yet, but this feels right even without seeing it.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 November 2021 21:30 (two months ago) link

xpost idk it seemed very in step with Brooklyn dirtbag socialism, but all those ppl were watching Dune

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 4 November 2021 21:38 (two months ago) link

That parody of May '68 was weirdly right-wing, totally dismissive of the concerns, ideas, and accomplishments of that movement. Anderson has never been a political filmmaker, and this was a really rough place for him to start. I think he just likes the aesthetic of that moment as received from Godard films, but he's utterly unconcerned with the substance of it.

This was my problem too. Reminded me of Barton Fink: not only is the Faulkner proxy an alcoholic but a fraud whose wife ghost writes the material.

Also: his people dress and coiff themselves better than their ancestors in La Chinoise

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 November 2021 21:42 (two months ago) link

I'm also queasy about bringing up the Baldwin/Liebling amalgam's sexuality as a throwaway line (which Jeffrey Wright does wonders with btw) for the sake of...I don't know, why did Anderson bring it up? Seemed like an attempt to tell viewers, "Hey, if Roebuck looks like James Baldwin, you're not wrong!"

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 November 2021 21:45 (two months ago) link

It was a funny line

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 4 November 2021 21:46 (two months ago) link

*takes drag of cigarette*

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 November 2021 21:49 (two months ago) link

This is lovely:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJGMmXdyhoA

DJI, Friday, 5 November 2021 17:42 (two months ago) link

Went into this with a very closed mind--I wanted to hate it--and it worked, I hated it. More or less than the hotel movie, I don't know--it's a moot point.

I'll try to keep this relatively short. Was Benicio Del Toro's painter supposed to be a stand-in for the Abstract Expressionists? Doesn't really fit in many ways, but he's said to be part of a big group in the movie, and they brawl with each other, so close enough. I liked Ed Harris's clumsy deification of Jackson Pollock a thousand times better than whatever it is Wes Anderson's after. (His smarminess seems to extend more to the people around Del Toro than Del Toro himself.) Made me think of a Christgau review where he once excoriated Jon Spencer for evidently taking a dig at Canned Heat's Bob Hite. Ed Harris = Bob Hite, I guess. The second and third stories were no less of an ordeal. I recall liking Timothée Chalamet in Little Women, but this and Dune have me wondering about that.

clemenza, Monday, 8 November 2021 00:06 (two months ago) link

I way preferred the hotel movie, and I'm no fan.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 November 2021 00:14 (two months ago) link

clem, I'm surprised you haven't seen Chalamet in Call Me By Your Name or especially, given your preferences, Lady Bird.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 November 2021 00:15 (two months ago) link

I saw Lady Bird--maybe a smaller part? I just found him really bland in these two latest.

clemenza, Monday, 8 November 2021 00:18 (two months ago) link

Was Kael one of the dedications? There was one that surprised me, so my attention wandered for a couple of seconds. If she wasn't, that's kind of interesting in light of the well-known backstory between Anderson and her. (Not that she was typical of The New Yorker...and that's a another bias I went into the film with: outside of the anomalous Kael, I have no nostalgia for The New Yorker's storied past.)

clemenza, Monday, 8 November 2021 00:21 (two months ago) link

Will this movie open wide at some point?

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 15:47 (two months ago) link

It sort has here surprisingly

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 16:26 (two months ago) link

Believe it or not but they liked it !
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-front-row/the-french-dispatch-reviewed-wes-andersons-most-freewheeling-film

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 16:27 (two months ago) link

That Brody review surprised me too...I rewatch Rushmore every couple of years, waiting to be annoyed by all the things that annoy me (much worse than that, actually) about his last two; I never am. Even with Tenenbaums, I find Gene Hackman's death very moving; with Murray's, felt nothing.

clemenza, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 16:35 (two months ago) link

(Not really a spoiler, as you'll see; that's where the film starts.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 16:38 (two months ago) link

In a sublime gesture of his own, he celebrates not only unsung heroes and those who tell their stories but also those who, like Howitzer and his staff of grammarians and illustrators, provide an accompaniment as stylish and as substantial as the adventures and inventions themselves.

That's the problem: the accomplishments of these writers is insubstantial.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 16:41 (two months ago) link

I got whiplash trying to follow Brody's argument in that piece. He pushes back against critics who accuse Anderson of making hollow, aestheticized bonbons by praising his "tableaux vivants that freeze scenes of turmoil into contemplative wonders", or how he "approaches serious matters not by displaying the authentic pain that they entail but, rather, by letting it ricochet off other, related subjects". Not exactly bolstering your case, dude.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 17:21 (two months ago) link

this felt like the movie that anderson's harshest critics accuse his other movies of being. which doesn't mean i think it was bad exactly: it was gorgeous, it was often pretty funny, it was overall kinda empty. the switch-ups between black-and-white and color were frequently breathtaking. the new yorker animatic at the climax of the third story felt... embarrassing

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 15 November 2021 01:03 (two months ago) link

I don’t know why he didn’t have it hand animated!

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 15 November 2021 01:08 (two months ago) link

or direct an animated fake doc about The New Yorker narrated by Mr. Fox.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 November 2021 01:11 (two months ago) link

not a fan but loved the hotel movie and unexpectedly enjoyed this one: vibed w the ~imprisonment~ theme (felt it suited a director this ensconced in his style); was repeatedly and variously moved, tbh, by the abstract expressionist section; did not think much of the soixante-huit one even after telling myself to let its political glibness go (as it goes along the godard pastiches get onner and onner the nose) but will put up with worse for even an anderson-mannered frances mcdormand; agree abt the animated sequence(s) ew; was initially a lil shocked by the cartoonification of james baldwin but felt wright gradually re-inflated the character into something worthy. also perversely admired the microscopic subtitles, which made his frames look more obnoxiously than ever like you're supposed to pause and get out some kind of loupe.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 15 November 2021 05:38 (two months ago) link

Liked part 1 OK. Part 2 I was in and out of sleep. Jeffrey Wright in part 3 had me doubled over laughing. So great. What else should I see him in... besides Westworld?

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 15 November 2021 18:28 (two months ago) link

Angels Over America.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 November 2021 18:30 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Maybe cuz I saw this with zero expectations, been pretty lukewarm on the guy for a while, but I thought this was the funniest, most entertaining thing he’s done in a long time. I don’t get the “how dare he” piety, dude playfully poking fun at literally everything, idols included, scene to scene. Doesn’t hit hard emotionally, it’s all there though, just gets out of the way quickly. Above all it’s funny and that’s what drew me to him in the first place.

Watching this on a laptop (hey, I’m in a hotel room) unexpectedly worked in its favor. For the 15-Second Rewind button at least. So many good gags and small, hilarious gestures packed in. I can’t understand shitting on Chalamet in this, he has more than a few of them.

circa1916, Wednesday, 12 January 2022 07:21 (one week ago) link


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