Anticipating Paul Thomas Anderson’s Licorice Pizza

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That’s the title. Guessing we’ll have a trailer ASAP.

... (Eazy), Friday, 10 September 2021 18:22 (two months ago) link

For context:

Ad for the record store Licorice Pizza, Los Angeles Times, April 22, 1983. On sale for $1 off: @duranduran's 'Rio,' plus hot new albums by David Bowie, Thomas Dolby and Bob Seger. pic.twitter.com/z7bHfCy1mP

— Annie Zaleski (@anniezaleski) September 10, 2021

... (Eazy), Friday, 10 September 2021 18:23 (two months ago) link

Oh yeah, I remember them, maaan: heyday was really more the vinyl heyday, the late 60s,70s, early 80s---by mid-80s, video rental got to be more of a profit leader, as noted here, w backstory of LP: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1986-04-23-fi-1244-story.html

dow, Friday, 10 September 2021 18:37 (two months ago) link

Though of course, after video killed the radio star, it reanimated some of 'em, like Talking Heads, abd Bowie, for a while and birthed new radio-via-video stars--before MTV and VH-1 went all "reality"--so yeah, if this is set in 80s, could still be musically vibrant.

dow, Friday, 10 September 2021 18:47 (two months ago) link

Phone rip of the still-not online trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0L6Go4rWw4

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 September 2021 16:08 (two months ago) link

this feels like P.T. Anderson doing Wes Anderson, something a little too cutesy about it all, and I'm really done with "Life On Mars" in movie soundtracks.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 20 September 2021 16:16 (two months ago) link

Kind of came off to me like a mix of Anderson's own style and a Linklater-esque hangout flick.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 September 2021 16:22 (two months ago) link

Co-sign on "Life On Mars", although perhaps they should have gone extra-meta and used the Streisand version.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 September 2021 16:25 (two months ago) link

If I didn't know it was PTA I would have guessed that Linklater had been watching Coen Bros movies, or vice versa.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 20 September 2021 18:28 (two months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofnXPwUPENo

Proper trailer.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 27 September 2021 15:39 (two months ago) link

starring alana haim????? wow

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 27 September 2021 15:53 (two months ago) link

this shit looks amazing

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 27 September 2021 15:55 (two months ago) link

i'm guessing cooper hoffman is philip seymour's son

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Monday, 27 September 2021 15:57 (two months ago) link

I actually am really excited about this now~~!!!

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Monday, 27 September 2021 15:57 (two months ago) link

Choice of Life on Mars was a downer indeed but trailers are trailers, not going to read too much into one*

* I would be reading loads into it if it excited me.

Alba, Monday, 27 September 2021 16:05 (two months ago) link

The two leads looked totally different to me in every scene!

Taliban! (PBKR), Monday, 27 September 2021 16:15 (two months ago) link

Reaction split along the lines of "Looks like Almost Famous - can't wait!" and "Looks like Almost Famous - how unoriginal!"

Alba, Monday, 27 September 2021 16:35 (two months ago) link

The longer this guy's career drags on the more convinced I am that his only two good movies are Hard Eight and The Master. This new one could not be more Not For Me unless it was a puppet musical.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 27 September 2021 16:38 (two months ago) link

Soon to be a campus/sleepover double feature with Lady Bird.

... (Eazy), Monday, 27 September 2021 16:55 (two months ago) link

xp I’m convinced The Master and Hard Eight are his two worst films

i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Monday, 27 September 2021 16:59 (two months ago) link

The title may be a nod to Diane Kurys' Peppermint Soda (never seen it, but supposedly very good)...Trailer is promising--happy he's not in England 50 years ago--song choice could have been more imaginative.

clemenza, Monday, 27 September 2021 17:06 (two months ago) link

i remember the phantom thread thread opening with a bunch of ilxors crowing "this looks boring" after watching the trailer :)

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 27 September 2021 17:20 (two months ago) link

The title may be a nod to Diane Kurys' Peppermint Soda

Licorice Pizza was a 70s/early 80s West Coast record store chain.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 27 September 2021 17:32 (two months ago) link

song choice could have been more imaginative

All Streisand or gtfo...

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 27 September 2021 17:37 (two months ago) link

looking forward to P.T. Anderson's Avenue Q now

talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Monday, 27 September 2021 17:38 (two months ago) link

The stills look like a gritty reboot of Dazed & Confused.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 27 September 2021 17:57 (two months ago) link

this can only be objectively good if she leaves him in the end

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Monday, 27 September 2021 18:01 (two months ago) link

The Bowie song is doing 95% of the emotional labour in this trailer, still curious about the film.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 27 September 2021 18:16 (two months ago) link

The Master is incredible, WTF. Did not like The Phantom Thread at the time but my memories of it have softened.

Porking level G4 (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 27 September 2021 18:21 (two months ago) link

the master is truly awesome

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 27 September 2021 18:24 (two months ago) link

it is, and i am pumped about this new one, it looks fantastic

typo hell #5: maybe you get an idea of what went into, or (Karl Malone), Monday, 27 September 2021 18:33 (two months ago) link

Now *this* is how you make a trailer. Gets your attention, bits of stuff here and there, but no idea what the plot is and don't feel like anything has been ruined or spoiled.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 September 2021 18:33 (two months ago) link

agree though, xp, that having Life on Mars? as the soundtrack to the trailer helps a lot.

however, imo you have to have some wonderful footage/performances to be able to hang with Life on Mars and not get embarrassed, so i take this as a good sign

typo hell #5: maybe you get an idea of what went into, or (Karl Malone), Monday, 27 September 2021 18:34 (two months ago) link

Deleted Jonny Greenwood tweet:

Oh it’s a lovely film. Only wrote a couple of cues for it - the score is all 70’s source cues (and all the better for that) - you’re all in for a giant PTA-shaped treat…

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 27 September 2021 18:46 (two months ago) link

feels more like adventureland than dazed and confused to me, but with added tom waits so that's cool

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Monday, 27 September 2021 19:04 (two months ago) link

i know that they're both of a similar cloth.

anyway, i'm looking forward to pta's linklater film!

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Monday, 27 September 2021 19:05 (two months ago) link

I'm very territorial when it comes to '70s' soundtracks. I'm wildly looking forward to the music here (looks like his first full-out pop movie since Boogie Nights), and I know I'll be excessively critical if it doesn't comport to how I, clemenza, think everything should have been done.

clemenza, Monday, 27 September 2021 19:50 (two months ago) link

It's funny, this looks much more like Boogie Nights-meets-Dazed and Confused than anything else to me.

I also haven't seen any of his more recent movies, tbh, because I stopped going to the movies for more than a decade.

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Monday, 27 September 2021 20:05 (two months ago) link

gonna watch the hell outta this

sleeve, Monday, 27 September 2021 20:34 (two months ago) link

kinda looks like Bradley Cooper learned to smash car windows from Frank Mackey

the adventures of pavlo and schrödis (geoffreyess), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 03:41 (two months ago) link

This looks like it's probably enjoyable but the trailer was obnoxiously trailery

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 03:44 (two months ago) link

i love this already GIVE IT TO ME

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 04:23 (two months ago) link

I guess it's hilarious that Cooper's in the role of Streisand's boyfriend after his turn in A Star is Born

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 04:24 (two months ago) link

Not to be a buzzkill because it generally looks great and I'm excited to see it, but am I the only one slightly weirded out by 29-year-old Alana Haim's love interest being 17-year-old Cooper Hoffman in Licorice Pizza?

— Bonnie Stiernberg (@aahrealbonsters) September 28, 2021

are people utterly unable to detect subtext anymore?

akm, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 16:31 (two months ago) link

people don't know how to watch things

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 16:54 (two months ago) link

They could swap this trailer out for the one for the Sopranos prequel and no one would notice

calstars, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 17:46 (two months ago) link

huh?

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 17:49 (two months ago) link

I think that was meant to be supporting evidence for Brad's assertion

talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 17:55 (two months ago) link

Oh that makes sense, I read it as a dismissive thing about it being another period piece with an actor's kid.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 18:01 (two months ago) link

Awards Blogger/Movie Lefsetz Jeffrey Wells serves up the hot takes re: the casting of Alana Haim

https://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2021/09/i-say-again/

FWIW, up until now I didn't know how old she is, but have people suddenly forgotten that actors (particularly those playing young folks) aren't playing their exact ages most of the time. I can certainly buy her playing younger, definitely either side of 20, which is what it looks like she's doing in the film.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 15:12 (two months ago) link

I enjoyed Inherent Vice a ton when I saw it in the theater, way more than my friends who I went with, haven't seen it since then. But it's such a literal interpretation of the book that I don't fully think of it as a PTA movie, a la 'No Country for Old Men' and the Coens.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 19:01 (two months ago) link

i do not really agree but i have watched inherent vice a lot. there are things the film does that the book cannot do, cf. the superimposed image of shasta after doc starts smoking a joint, which, as probably several pta threads on ilx bear out by now, is literally my favorite scene in any movie

idk, the ending dialogue between shasta and doc in the car, with the light streaming over them, plus the aching tenderness the characters have for each other through the entire runtime... these are the movie's terrain

movie also snips one of doc's threads of inquiry, can't remember which, but it's for the better

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 19:09 (two months ago) link

That's true, and the book is longer and shaggier than the movie for sure

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 19:15 (two months ago) link

yeah i was shocked he was able to pull a coherent adaptation out of such a nutso book

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 19:19 (two months ago) link

movie also snips one of doc's threads of inquiry, can't remember which, but it's for the better

― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, September 29, 2021 3:09 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

movie gets rid of the book's Vegas digression, which contains one of the best summations of Pynchon ever:

“Out there, all around them to the last fringes of occupancy, were Toobfreex at play in the video universe, the tropic isle, the Long Branch Saloon, the Starship Enterprise, Hawaiian crime fantasies, cute kids in make-believe living rooms with invisible audiences to laugh at everything they did, baseball highlights, Vietnam footage, helicopter gunships and firefights, and midnight jokes, and talking celebrities, and a slave girl in a bottle, and Arnold the pig, and here was Doc, on the natch, caught in a low-level bummer he couldn’t find a way out of, about how the Psychedelic Sixties, this little parenthesis of light, might close after all, and all be lost, taken back into darkness . . . how a certain hand might reach terribly out of darkness and reclaim the time, easy as taking a joint from a doper and stubbing it out for good.”

To some extent they morph this digression into Doc's encounter with Mickey in the asylum but I don't recall if it covers this passage.

Taliban! (PBKR), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 23:56 (two months ago) link

I haven't read the book, but in the synopsis I did see (and that posted excerpt), it seems including that part would skirt extremely closely to bat Fear & Loathing country.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 30 September 2021 00:26 (two months ago) link

That sentence is a perfect example of why I've never been able to finish Gravity's Rainbow.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 30 September 2021 00:44 (two months ago) link

On a different note, this cleared up what I thought was just a psychedelic choice for naming a record store:

It’s from a self-deprecating joke by the comedy-folk duo Bud and Travis, who joke around the 9:30 mark of this video that one of their vinyl records is so unsuccessful that it’s being marketed as “licorice pizza” — since records are black and round.

... (Eazy), Thursday, 30 September 2021 03:31 (two months ago) link

Also initials L. P.

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Thursday, 30 September 2021 04:09 (two months ago) link

i like hard eight. it’s not his best, maybe even in his bottom 3. but it’s really good imho. i love philip baker hall

flopson, Thursday, 30 September 2021 07:12 (two months ago) link

i get why a quirky LA neo-noir about people fucking up wasn’t the most original concept 3 years after pulp fiction. but it’s still a lot of fun

flopson, Thursday, 30 September 2021 07:15 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Barabajagal, yessss

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 12 November 2021 00:27 (two weeks ago) link

Well...He transformed some real junk in Boogie Nights, so anything's possible. (I can see him doing something memorable with "Diamond Girl.") Underwhelming, though. "My Ding-a-Ling" for Chuck Berry? That's insulting (and irredeemable, I'm guessing).

clemenza, Friday, 12 November 2021 00:30 (two weeks ago) link

(I see it's a version from 1967 with the Steve Miller Band. So maybe it started out life sounding like Chuck Berry's supposed to sound.)

clemenza, Friday, 12 November 2021 00:36 (two weeks ago) link

Kind of wishing there was more Have A Nice Day junk tbh, like I can totally see him doing something great with "How Do You Do?" or "Chick-A-Boom". Related: I really wish the trailer had been cut to Dwight Twilley's "I'm On Fire"...but then again I wish all trailers were cut to that.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 12 November 2021 01:47 (two weeks ago) link

Would look forward to either of those first two, basically the equivalent of what he did with "Sister Christian," "Driver's Seat," and Apollo 100's "Joy."

clemenza, Friday, 12 November 2021 02:13 (two weeks ago) link

This looks like it’ll be fun.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 13 November 2021 02:06 (two weeks ago) link

Maybe he's paying tribute to the Canadian film Paperback Hero (1:15:45) with "If You Could Read My Mind," the one song on that list I unreservedly love (also used memorably in Mr. Robot).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ig2EL6WBEs

clemenza, Saturday, 13 November 2021 02:15 (two weeks ago) link

I rewatched Inherent Vice, hoping that I would like it without the burden of expectations. I liked it a little more, but was stunned several times upon realizing there was still x much time left. "45 minutes? fuck..."

The original viewing put me off so much that I avoided the Phantom Thread. I also have a mild problem with costume dramas, but I should probably have a go at it. Licorice Pizza has me hopeful.

Cow_Art, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 02:44 (one week ago) link

I also have a mild problem with costume dramas, but I should probably have a go at it. Licorice Pizza has me hopeful.

A movie set in the 1970s *is* a costume drama.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 02:46 (one week ago) link

Yeah, what's a costume drama?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 02:48 (one week ago) link

I watched Inherent Vice again recently, and somehow the pacing and tone settled in a lot better than on the first viewing. I don't think I had inappropriate expectations when I first saw it, but maybe having a vague memory about what was about to happen allowed me to pay more attention to what was occurring in the moment.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 03:03 (one week ago) link

Yeah, what's a costume drama?


Bosom Manor

A Pile of Ants (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 03:13 (one week ago) link

MOVIE REVIEWS

'Licorice Pizza' Is Paul Thomas Anderson's 1970s Power Ballad - and the Funkiest Love Story of the Year
A spiritual prequel to 'Punch Drunk Love,' the filmmaker's look back at a bygone era couldn't be more personal — or have better performers at its center

Have not read rest; ads are fucking w my computer:
https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/movie-reviews/licorice-

dow, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:10 (one week ago) link

Were there 1970s power ballads? "Fade Away and Radiate"?

dow, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:11 (one week ago) link

Kiss's "Beth" The 70s were full of them.

nickn, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:28 (one week ago) link

Styx "Lady" comes to mind

J. Sam, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:42 (one week ago) link

Dust in the Wind

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:49 (one week ago) link

Buncha Elton: "Candle In The Wind"; "Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me"; "Levon" etc.

PLUS THE FUCKIN' EAGLES

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:55 (one week ago) link

BOB GODDAMN SEGER

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:56 (one week ago) link

read a positive review of this which confirmed my lack of desire to see it

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:58 (one week ago) link

LYNRYD SHITKICKIN' SKYNYRD

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:58 (one week ago) link

Yeah but the 'power' in power ballad connotes an explosion of electric guitars and thundering drums

Otherwise it's just a ballad

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:59 (one week ago) link

ELECTRIC MELLONFARMIN' LIGHT ORCHESTRA

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:00 (one week ago) link

Yeah but the 'power' in power ballad connotes an explosion of electric guitars and thundering drums

Some if not all of those bands did that.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:02 (one week ago) link

Ballads are Ballads but part of the "Power" is the showstopping, reach for the rafters sing-along chorus.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:04 (one week ago) link

ANTHEMS

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:06 (one week ago) link

Possibly substitute Queen for ELO.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:09 (one week ago) link

Juice Newton - “ Angel of the Morning” is a total 70’s powerballad

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:12 (one week ago) link

candle in the wind is just a ballad imo

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:13 (one week ago) link

I've always maintained that Whitesnake's Here I Go Again is just a rewrite of Angel of the Morning

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:18 (one week ago) link

Whoa Juice has kind of a crazy-eyed Kate Bush thing going here... pretty awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTzGMEfbnAw

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:22 (one week ago) link

Nazareth: "Love Hurts" so good (their covers of "Hollis Brown" proto-folk-metal ritualizm, the Joni cover, though blanking on title, more ov a power folkie-ballad)(they should have done "Candle In The Wind," then it would have been proper power ballad) But I was thinking more "tasteful romantic move by 80s metal etc."

dow, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:35 (one week ago) link

Joni cover = "This Flight Tonight"

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 22:35 (one week ago) link

Ramones had a few!

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 23:06 (one week ago) link

For an acoustic guy, Cat Stevens had a ton of these.

... (Eazy), Thursday, 25 November 2021 01:02 (one week ago) link

Licorice Pizza Love Jams

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 November 2021 01:17 (one week ago) link

I don't even own a Film Twitter, but sorta surprised the grievance Chaw had that's getting run with is the age difference thing and not the racial thing, but OTOH I guess the former is easier to address without having yet seen the movie.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 November 2021 01:22 (one week ago) link


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