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Awesome show, can't wait to get started on the second season.

About to watch S1E1 which is free, I guess.

Gus?

Thanks for starting the thread Leee! I was very taken by this show. Article about the deepfakes they pull off in S2 here

Third season has already started filming and I'm very excited that it will cover the 90s and Mars!

Does anyone else think Gordo looks kinda like Ron Swanson with that mustache in S2?

heard Michael Dorman from Patriot is in it so automatic add to watch list

Happy to see the thread. I'll try not to spoil until enough folks here have seen S1.

Love this show, the attention to detail is both brilliant and never overwhelms the story.

s2e1, lol at Margo's chili hair.

I wholly attribute the single pop-culture alt-history bit that keeps popping up to Ron Moore’s boomerism (as some here have already heard me mention)

Trying not to read the thread yet. Just watched "Red Moon." Great stuff, right in my wheelhouse. See you soon. Now entering LOS.

i just realized i have hardly watched any s2

:O

will start putting that right tonight

Cape cookie sighting early on, S1E2!

This is really good, says I after watching three episodes.

Real James is correct in his description.

Season 2 Gordo is a thing of beauty (beauty = sadness)

S1 = TOS cowboy/cowgirl lawlessness
S2 = TNG apex of bureaucratization (at least 2 episodes in)

As for Gordo: Damn this show for making me empathize with an ex-jock has-been!

oh when we were talking about fact v fiction

i forgot add for anyone who is unfamilliar, Molly Cobb’s character is based on aviator/Mercury legend & badass Jerrie Cobb (who rules) - S1E4 is dedicated to her

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerrie_Cobb

The story about the big rocket at the very end of S1

Another weird fact vs. fiction which is a small S2 spoiler: Ellen Wilson seemed likely to be based on Sally Ride (particularly keeping her sexuality private), but then Sally Ride also becomes a character on the show!

This is so good, says I 1/3 of the way through S1.

:D

WVB stuff is incredibly well done imho

Probably didn't need to hide that, but who knows.

James: agreed -- I thought it a very important thing to show people who are urbane and charming were capable of being complicit in atrocities, and also the human cost of scientific progress.

S2: early on when Tracy eyes Danny all grown up, it was REALLY uncomfortable because of the smaller age difference between the actors.

Yes, at first I thought they were going to shy away from von Braun's past, but they really DID NOT

If I may go there, while there are some obligatory retro quotation marks, all the personal emotional relationship stuff is deeply, um, relatable, those quotation marks are not at all of the moronic ironic scary variety, as someone like our old friend Momus may have described them.

Feel like maybe that is TMI. We don’t talk about those things.

Houston, how long until that TMI?

can you re-state it in a less oblique way? sorry to be dim but idgi

Sorry I was obfuscating. Just feel like the characters aren't just stranded in their fate in the alternate timeline past. There is some bit of self-awareness in them under the uptightness. Which seems to have been done pretty carefully, so they seem both of their time but more up to date as well. I imagine this becomes more apparent later, I am only in the episode after "Hi, Bob." Don't know if I have explained any better this time around, sorry.

Maybe I just don’t watch enough tv these days and every show already does a good job of avoid this trap 🪤 I imagined while I was suffering from space isolation

Or, to paraphrase what I think JM said on this thread or maybe it was the other, I came for the tech fetish but stayed for the characters.

Okay, maybe I didn't want to go there, but I am especially relating to some of the stuff about being married and being a parent, the way it is handled.

the parenting / marriage stuff is so good, and it just gets more impressive/affecting/devastating as it goes

i know Moore only had a hand in writing a few episodes but careerwise his strength as a show runner & writer has always been his ability find the humanity in characters over beating you over the head w tech/concept

the writers are never so locked into the era/concept that they ever deny a character’s ability to respond like a human person

it’s a really underrated quality

i bawled my damn eyes out over s2e3, let alone s1 — will need tear duct surgery soon if they keep it up

Roger, VG, you are go on that TMI.

Showing the consequences on the characters' personal lives is a strong theme, and I think it's handled very well. Sci-fi as a genre doesn't have the best track record with it either

Watching this episode now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clvrPmTx4n4

Also wanted to say it was driving me crazy wondering who that actor was until I saw in the credits it was James Urbaniak.

So my ickiness at Tracy ogling Danny gets doubled down on in s2e7 when Danny kisses Karen.

Just you wait

Just finished S1. Now to see what this S2 is all about.

I get the impression that the creators of this show definitely watched Halt and Catch Fire. And it’s not just the parallel Gordons.

Just you wait

Hah ikr. Also, s2e8: THAT ENDING. OMFG talk about nightmare fuel.

S2E1 was kind of big adjustment for me but now getting into it

yeah its weird getting used to seeing Ed wuth a few extra pounds & riding a desk

I get the impression that the creators of this show definitely watched Halt and Catch Fire.

Another show I completely adored

wow yeah the gordos are definitely of a piece

Love this show, I feel one of the connections with Halt & Catch Fire is (for me) unfortunate and that's being a bit bashed over the head with seemingly unconnected period music, HEY it's the SIXTIES! Sitars!!! Jumping Jack Flash!!

Although that one Petula Clark song they chose was rad.

You couldn’t pay me to watch S3

It's not *that* bad. I'd watch it again if someone paid me.

Ha, yes, exactly.

I wish the show had done another season set in the early ’70s before time jumping. Aside from being more fond of that era than the 80s, I liked the show best when its alternate history wasn’t so fantastic. Also, when had more relation to its advertising as a show about women astronauts. I don’t find the new cast as compelling as the original, so not looking forward to them taking over as the timeline gets further from the first season.

^OTM 100%

My wife referred to S3 E1 as The Towering Inferno.

Molly in S3 E2 : Pacino in Scent of a Woman.

The show is bad now, but in kind of a fun way.

Oh yeah, Danny Baldwin has all of the gravitas of James Hurly in Twin Peaks.

Thought pretty much the same thing about S3 E2. Keep ‘em coming!

Oh yeah, Danny Baldwin has all of the gravitas of James Hurly in Twin Peaks.

lol good comparison. maybe Danny will give us some singing next season

OMG

Is next season when one of the Baldwins gets a cute little alien sidekick or is it TOO SOON?

My wife was dying at the scene of Danny glancing up at the statue of his parents outside NASA HQ, looking like a petulant teen who just got grounded.

UGH, we just finished s1 and I want to dive into this thread but it starts at s2, whyyyyyyyy

Really good stuff. Between this and Patriot I'm pretty much onboard to watch literally anything Michael Dorman does. And even though I thought the show itself was pretty awful ('though the acting was mostly very good), I'm glad that we watched The Killing before this so that I can fully appreciate Joel Kinnaman's incredible range. Kinda love everyone here, though, even though I haven't encountered most of these actors previously

Took me waaaaay too long to realize that Deke was Frank Sobotka.

For All Mankind costume designer plays part in NASA’s next-generation space suit

Henry Fool is the film of the day on MUBI today, which reminded how long it took me to realize James Urbaniak was in this.

Just watching a show on Apple and a trailer for the new season popped up.

November 10th!

Will watch, I suppose.

Everyone seems consistently aged up by not aging them up at all except for Baldwin whom they've turned into David Harbour.

omg new season :D

and S4 starts on the 10th

Saw that

Season premiere was fine. I hope they don't lean too hard into the soap, but I have a hunch that's what we're gonna get. Between this and "Battlestar Galactica," Ronald Moore has become the top name in not knowing what to do after the success of the first two seasons.

The 4 minute info dump was a little much

lol at (presumably) killing Danny between seasons

feeling good about the H&CF Season 2 arc for Kelly and Aleida

ed looks like villain-mode malkovich in his old age mskeup

i like all the margo in russia stuff.
the whole swan lake on the tv was a great touch i

An H&CF story arc would be v cool.

We’ve got Daniel Stern playing the head of NASA on FAM and Paul Reiner played head of the lab in Stranger Things. Guess the cast of Diner is ripe for the kindly but still kinda evil head bureaucrat roles.

I want Margo to bump into Martha!

lol, glad I'm not the only one who starts mixing this show up with The Americans every time we're zapped back to Russia.

smorking that lound in space

Poor Margo.

Bill/Aleida was special, the rest was fine

Wayne shoutout though!

they teased us with class warfare in space and a coup on earth, and we got more black market capitalism and a different type of coup succeeding

this season is kind of a yawn

like theres ok moments, the margo stuff is ok & yeah bill & aleida was cool

but also we are so far from Gordo now its like what are we even doing anymore

I think the series owes more to Halt and Catch Fire more than any other recent tv show, but having the core cast evolve and age out/die definitely pushes the focal point more to the altered history and politics

The hvac guy has an interesting plot arc but it’s underserved by having him be a pretty stock character so far. Seems like that whole thing might have been a setup to bring our NK friend back into the mix

Some silliness with the Kelli & Aleida plot this week. And some seriousness with the Margo plot. Hopefully that’s sufficiently vague.

Solid episode, finally enjoying the Margo storyline. I'm guessing that something Miles saw on his excursion - the shiny rocks, the crevasse, something - will turn out to be a crucial plot point later on, otherwise what was it for.

Gonna be like magic life-housing space rocks that no one noticed before.

I don't really care about that dude, and when they gave the cosmonaut a sad farewell this ep I thought, you know, I didn't care about her, either. They're juggling a lot of different overlapping storylines this seasons.

Not clear if Ed has anything to do. Dani should send him home.

Miles is too goddamn stupid to live, Ed is a mess, honestly aside from Margo what are we even doing here ugh

Every time I think Miles is gonna be a new hero for the show he just fucks shit up. He... how did he even get hired. Come to that how on earth is that speakeasy going without being noticed by the higher ups, does everyone just keep shtumm because they all want to be able to get chocolate and undies and foot cream and porn?

come for the porn, stay for the human trafficking

The actor does give off the aura of a porn star expecting to bang the horny prof but it turns out it's just a regular calculus final.

VG OTM, we got rid of the Stevens yahoos that ruined S3 but so far only the Margo plot line is proving to be compelling

Show has found a groove, looking forward to Aleida in Russia. Didn't even hate the return of a Stevens yahoo.

opening scene was very Expanse (but with not-as-good CGI somehow?)

Better episode for sure