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Awesome show, can't wait to get started on the second season.

About to watch S1E1 which is free, I guess.

Gus?

Thanks for starting the thread Leee! I was very taken by this show. Article about the deepfakes they pull off in S2 here

Third season has already started filming and I'm very excited that it will cover the 90s and Mars!

Does anyone else think Gordo looks kinda like Ron Swanson with that mustache in S2?

heard Michael Dorman from Patriot is in it so automatic add to watch list

Happy to see the thread. I'll try not to spoil until enough folks here have seen S1.

Love this show, the attention to detail is both brilliant and never overwhelms the story.

s2e1, lol at Margo's chili hair.

I wholly attribute the single pop-culture alt-history bit that keeps popping up to Ron Moore’s boomerism (as some here have already heard me mention)

Trying not to read the thread yet. Just watched "Red Moon." Great stuff, right in my wheelhouse. See you soon. Now entering LOS.

i just realized i have hardly watched any s2

:O

will start putting that right tonight

Cape cookie sighting early on, S1E2!

This is really good, says I after watching three episodes.

Real James is correct in his description.

Season 2 Gordo is a thing of beauty (beauty = sadness)

S1 = TOS cowboy/cowgirl lawlessness
S2 = TNG apex of bureaucratization (at least 2 episodes in)

As for Gordo: Damn this show for making me empathize with an ex-jock has-been!

oh when we were talking about fact v fiction

i forgot add for anyone who is unfamilliar, Molly Cobb’s character is based on aviator/Mercury legend & badass Jerrie Cobb (who rules) - S1E4 is dedicated to her

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerrie_Cobb

The story about the big rocket at the very end of S1

Another weird fact vs. fiction which is a small S2 spoiler: Ellen Wilson seemed likely to be based on Sally Ride (particularly keeping her sexuality private), but then Sally Ride also becomes a character on the show!

This is so good, says I 1/3 of the way through S1.

:D

WVB stuff is incredibly well done imho

Probably didn't need to hide that, but who knows.

James: agreed -- I thought it a very important thing to show people who are urbane and charming were capable of being complicit in atrocities, and also the human cost of scientific progress.

S2: early on when Tracy eyes Danny all grown up, it was REALLY uncomfortable because of the smaller age difference between the actors.

Yes, at first I thought they were going to shy away from von Braun's past, but they really DID NOT

If I may go there, while there are some obligatory retro quotation marks, all the personal emotional relationship stuff is deeply, um, relatable, those quotation marks are not at all of the moronic ironic scary variety, as someone like our old friend Momus may have described them.

Feel like maybe that is TMI. We don’t talk about those things.

Houston, how long until that TMI?

can you re-state it in a less oblique way? sorry to be dim but idgi

Sorry I was obfuscating. Just feel like the characters aren't just stranded in their fate in the alternate timeline past. There is some bit of self-awareness in them under the uptightness. Which seems to have been done pretty carefully, so they seem both of their time but more up to date as well. I imagine this becomes more apparent later, I am only in the episode after "Hi, Bob." Don't know if I have explained any better this time around, sorry.

Maybe I just don’t watch enough tv these days and every show already does a good job of avoid this trap 🪤 I imagined while I was suffering from space isolation

Or, to paraphrase what I think JM said on this thread or maybe it was the other, I came for the tech fetish but stayed for the characters.

Okay, maybe I didn't want to go there, but I am especially relating to some of the stuff about being married and being a parent, the way it is handled.

the parenting / marriage stuff is so good, and it just gets more impressive/affecting/devastating as it goes

i know Moore only had a hand in writing a few episodes but careerwise his strength as a show runner & writer has always been his ability find the humanity in characters over beating you over the head w tech/concept

the writers are never so locked into the era/concept that they ever deny a character’s ability to respond like a human person

it’s a really underrated quality

i bawled my damn eyes out over s2e3, let alone s1 — will need tear duct surgery soon if they keep it up

Roger, VG, you are go on that TMI.

Showing the consequences on the characters' personal lives is a strong theme, and I think it's handled very well. Sci-fi as a genre doesn't have the best track record with it either

Watching this episode now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clvrPmTx4n4

Also wanted to say it was driving me crazy wondering who that actor was until I saw in the credits it was James Urbaniak.

So my ickiness at Tracy ogling Danny gets doubled down on in s2e7 when Danny kisses Karen.

Just you wait

Just finished S1. Now to see what this S2 is all about.

I get the impression that the creators of this show definitely watched Halt and Catch Fire. And it’s not just the parallel Gordons.

Just you wait

Hah ikr. Also, s2e8: THAT ENDING. OMFG talk about nightmare fuel.

S2E1 was kind of big adjustment for me but now getting into it

yeah its weird getting used to seeing Ed wuth a few extra pounds & riding a desk

I get the impression that the creators of this show definitely watched Halt and Catch Fire.

Another show I completely adored

wow yeah the gordos are definitely of a piece

Love this show, I feel one of the connections with Halt & Catch Fire is (for me) unfortunate and that's being a bit bashed over the head with seemingly unconnected period music, HEY it's the SIXTIES! Sitars!!! Jumping Jack Flash!!

Although that one Petula Clark song they chose was rad.

Kids

Sorry. In a coffee shop and hearing an enjoyable playlist of well-worn 60s but mostly 70s favorites, thinking how they are used up for any future soundtrack appearances so might well appear on FAM. Currently playing: “Spirit in the Sky.”

“Behind Blue Eyes”! This episode is writing itself.

so they have set up [Danny & Danielle (plus Margo) vs Ed & Karen (plus new age tech guy and hopefully Molly)]. It has some interesting possibilities least interesting of which is the love triangle. Will be annoying if that takes up a lot of screen time in future episodes.

format fail, sorry

Failure not an option iirc

Unfortunately I think that the love triangle is going to be a thing this season.

either Danny has to rescue Ed or vice versa, and we have to watch him take a long time to decide whether he's going to do it

hadn't thought that though but makes sense, yeah.

The show's been decent at setting up things where you think they're taking it one way but end up changing it up a bit, though

The profile picture for Wrenn Schmidt on IMDB is wildly different than her Margo look.

that's acting, baby!

FUCK YEAH!

re the episode, that was

tfw your man is getting all sexual but he really just wants your engine design

sad we missed the presidential debate about regulation of private space travel :(

(this is a timeline where there isn't even private internet)

poor Margo :(

What did I just watch?

Or, what Real James said.

Nice that both Aleida and Kelly end up on team NASA but for opposite reasons, one to stay with Margo and the other to get out from Ed's shadow

xpost, care to elaborate on what you watched :)

Great opening. Not sure I can watch the rest until tomorrow.

FUCK HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO WAIT ANOTHER WEEK?

Good episode! Starting to see how things fit together. Still very unstoked for whatever the Ed/Danny denouement turns out to be.

really? lol ever since Karen boned Danny all i have wanted it is for Ed to find out in the most awkward way imaginable and blow all twelve remaining gaskets over his ex wife boning his dead best friend’s kid 😂

(i’m way behind in the new season)

OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGG.

They fixed Larry's bald cap.

holy shit that was fucking terrifying

goddamn the “space goes pearshaped”segments always feel real as hell in this show

as the credits came up i shook my head and said aloud to myself "these motherfuckers"

I knew Dev would turn out to be a Marvin

Episode delivers

earlier baldcap was kind of a Conehead/Talosian tribute

keen to see more of:

- What is North Korea up to?
- What will Aleida do when she realises the Soviets have her rocket?
- Is there any culture original to the FAM timeline except Love in the Skies?
- Ed + Danielle + Cosmonaut captain work out how to work together
- Cool flying

keen not to see more of:

- Extended Ed/Danny/Karen drama (obv it's coming but please get it over quick)
- Soviets try to hijack Sojourner (even worse if they somehow staged the accident)
- Ellen impeachment trial
- Jamestown truthers

Drinking of Shiners made the truthers especially scary to me for some reason

how do i get you all to ride w me for Ed/Danny/Karen drama. You all are some basic boring bitches ffs

But came to post this episode now reminding me of one of my old screennames

Okay, thing dropped Thursday night at nine so I think we are safely past the 24 hours from Jamestown rule and can dispense with h-tags.

xp it's ok - when they pause the plot for an entire episode of manly brawling and tearful SpaceTime calls, I'll be less miserable in the knowledge that someone out there is enjoying it

some FAM-reminiscent beats in this article about some of the first female US fighter pilots : https://www.vox.com/features/23179441/combat-top-gun-kara-hultgreen-tailhook-f14

EKD drama could be interesting but better not distract from whatever actual disaster it is peaking with at the same time. It shouldn’t just be Ed and Danny eyeing each other up down a NASA-Helios Jefferies tube like the classic starving and stranded (or snowbound) hot dog vs. hamburger man thinking “do I space him or do I carry him? Which one of these two things should I do?”

This singularity hereafter to be referred to as the EKD denouement, or simply the EKDD.

the only thing that irks me slightly is the actor playing Danny is kinda dead-eyed which will ultimately ruin whatever payoff i get
Gordo deserves better

i feel like i have built up the EKD meltdown in my mind so much that i’ll probably be disappointed when it happens

but also :D :D

separately- is Danielle the fucking best? she is, isn’t she

i do like how the show really confronts privatised spaceflight vs NASA spaceflight in a way that is kind of expected but still somehow weightier than you anticipate

THIS SHOW RULES is what i am ultimately saying

Yeah, loved Dani this episode, particularly the pirate nonsense when they were unfurling the sail, which also fast tracked my endearment to the redshirts.

I especially liked how Dev undermined Bill and Karen by having or subtly or not so subtly encouraging the underlings (to) vote with him and saying "See? Unanimous group decision!"

And yeah, Dani has been great this season, particular this episode.

yeah Dev’s heel turn was v good
you knew it was coming the whole time which made the slow (?) burn worth it

I kinda read the Dev voting thing differently, in that Helios tended to attract a bunch of libertarian-leaning people who were convinced they knew better than government space programs and so why should they bail them out? But since literally the only Helios employees we know are Karen and Strausser and neither of them seem to fit that description, it's probably as yall have been saying, i.e. the boss subtly prompting his underlings to vote the way he wanted.

I think what's kind of astonishing about the last episode is that it's the FOURTH out of an apparently 10-episode season -- like, if things are this wild before we even hit the halfway point, what do they have in store for the finale?!? Please help keep my expectations in check, friends.

Also, DEK (pronounced deek) would be a more pronounceable acronym for the triangle that dare not speaks its name.

Lol.

And yeah, OTM. Last season this would have been episode nine or maybe eight at the earliest.

goddamn what a great show this is.

That woman being crushed by the slow roll of the other ship... aauughh. Horrifying.