"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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This does seem to be being treated differently than Jo Cox's murder - more overt "political point scoring", I think? Like, the implication that Angela Rayner calling the Tories scum leads to events like this is just weird.

djh, Monday, 18 October 2021 17:11 (two years ago) link

It's a dead Tory.

Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link

Also, seems to be being reported that "Carrie" broke lock down rules by having a visitor at Christmas ... but not her fella.

djh, Monday, 18 October 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link

x-post.

Aye, obviously.

djh, Monday, 18 October 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link

put your hands up for southend
we love this city

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:30 (two years ago) link

I guess if a shitehole with a big and very ordinary looking church like Wakefield can have city status then anywhere can. A 300k+ population is quite big tbf but only if Southend don't cheat the figures like Wakefield does by counting chunks of Dewsbury and towns such as Pontefract and Castleford from within the WMDC boundaries towards the population count.

calzino, Monday, 18 October 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link

So as soon as I could, I upped sticks for the bright lights of Wakefield, all of three miles away. The night before I left, I went for a farewell drink in the Red Lion on Dewsbury Road. An old bloke at the bar warned me of “those Wakefield folk with their Wakefield ways”, then he gripped my arm and said, “never forget where you’re from, lad. You’re from Ossett, remember that.”

calzino, Monday, 18 October 2021 18:58 (two years ago) link

We’re delighted to announce that Neil Hamilton has been elected UKIP leader! pic.twitter.com/Lfn9Q5KBAD

— UKIP (@UKIP) October 18, 2021

calzino, Monday, 18 October 2021 19:04 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/JqIfCCz.jpg

"Spaghetti" Thompson (Pheeel), Monday, 18 October 2021 20:30 (two years ago) link

the bishop doing thought for the day this morning on R4 suggested that “cancel culture” and deplatforming were symptoms of the same cultural mindset that leads to murdering MPs.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 18 October 2021 22:02 (two years ago) link

It’s the old islamo-gauchisme to blame.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 18 October 2021 22:09 (two years ago) link

I don't need to hear bishops on thought for the day for islamo-gauchisme blaming, just scroll back to a few ilx threads for the same!

calzino, Monday, 18 October 2021 22:18 (two years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/19/dup-hits-out-at-prosecution-of-army-veteran-who-died-from-covid

So awful he didn't live long enough

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 12:47 (two years ago) link

I say he's faked his death.

Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 October 2021 12:50 (two years ago) link

Like General Powell

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 13:04 (two years ago) link

Focus group of swing voters on @TimesRadio just now has a truly appalling impression of Starmer, while thinking Johnson is a clown but likeable character. The 'hindsight' attack still has strong appeal & predictably Facebook rumours about his DPP record are making an impression.

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) October 19, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 13:04 (two years ago) link

"rumours"

calzino, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 13:07 (two years ago) link

I can't imagine how any made up rumour shit on FB could be any more appalling than his DPP record actually is.

calzino, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 13:30 (two years ago) link

the 08:10 interview on radio 4 this morning was tory mnister (Anne-Marie Trevelyan) talking about something or other*, but the follow up question was about boris and bubbles and christmas. she started by saying she had no special knowledge of the arrangements but then quite happily carried on for 5 minutes saying that he did nothing illegal and here's why...

* oh, gas boilers and replacing then with expensive air source heat pumps. 10 minutes on this and obvious that she's never heard of a flat. also, they removed the more accessible insulation grant some while ago...

koogs, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 13:45 (two years ago) link

i only hear some of these but every time it's a tory minister it's just a pack of lies and excuses and wrongness.

koogs, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 13:48 (two years ago) link

I'm imagining that wanker out of Coldplay having the most expensive ground source heat pump system going installed at his luxury home and getting lower heating bills than someone on universal credit with a standard gas boiler. Just to make myself feel happier.

calzino, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 14:58 (two years ago) link

so that £450m allotted by the govt in heat pump subsidies the govt = 900 people with 5k towards a heating system that could cost up to 20k.

calzino, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 16:14 (two years ago) link

the govt

calzino, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 16:14 (two years ago) link

Just reading an article in the Guardian about the need to implement a Plan B around Covid-19 now - essentially, re-introduce face coverings and advise work from home, where possible. It mentions that Starmer, while criticising the government, falls short of calling for a "Plan B". My sense is that the people calling for this Plan B are people I would largely trust/believe. Would Starmer calling for it be such a vote loser? Or is he just being a bit feeble and vague?

djh, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 20:08 (two years ago) link

I think "feeble and vague" is being a bit too generous. He's a cowardly piece of shit and so far has offered no alternative to the UK's govt's disastrous covid strategies other than the usual quivering "this is not very good" type intervention that puts zero pressure on them to do anything else.

calzino, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 20:38 (two years ago) link

I can actually get that there was a point (early on in the pandemic) when it felt useful to be (feebly and vaguely?) seen as being alongside the government ... but we're long past that, aren't we? Would it be weird to hope for an opposition to be saying "Fuck this shit - too many people are dying"? I thought Starmer was good on detail?

djh, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link

he's only ever showed his *forensic* skills when the state needs them to cover up the police murdering people in cold blood or implementing kangaroo courts during the riots or prosecuting benefit fraud cases like they are dealing with murder cases etc...etc.. the guy is a fucking plant.

calzino, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 21:23 (two years ago) link

The whole civility thing reminds me when my mum's MP personally promised my mum she would not vote for benefit cuts, and then voted for them

— FearTheWalkingH&SRep🎃 (@ESOLallstars) October 19, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 08:42 (two years ago) link

I saw some clown yesterday suggesting that MP's parliamentary voting records shouldn't even be on public record. They work to ruin your life... now keep it civil

calzino, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 09:02 (two years ago) link

Starmer is terrible sure but I do think a vote to reinstate measures would fail hard right now.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 09:27 (two years ago) link

some clown yesterday suggesting that MP's parliamentary voting records shouldn't even be on public record

funny seeing this guy being roasted on twitter, someone I've met a couple of times

conrad, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 09:38 (two years ago) link

omg he's real!

calzino, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 10:12 (two years ago) link

the weaselly justification he gives is that he thinks TheyWorkForYou gives insufficient context, that ppl should be told whether a certain vote was because of the whip and whatnot. because voting for austerity is fine if the party says you must, of course.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 10:34 (two years ago) link

perhaps if they released some contrived video of themselves shedding some tears before reluctantly voting/abstaining for poverty they could retain some pretence that they represent their constituents interests.

calzino, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 10:55 (two years ago) link

like homer eating his lobster

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 11:20 (two years ago) link

TheyWorkForYou gives insufficient context, that ppl should be told whether a certain vote was because of the whip and whatnot

the possibility that an MP has hidden convictions that their voting record doesn't do justice. as calzino says: a clown.

conrad, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 11:52 (two years ago) link

in any case an MP's views is at best a second order consideration as compared to what their record is on the thing they are elected as a representative to do: legislate

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 12:16 (two years ago) link

absolutely, it's a ridiculous position, based on thinking of MPs as our parasocial friends.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 12:18 (two years ago) link

Javid press conference at 5pm today

stet, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 12:27 (two years ago) link

Doesn't seem like it will be a big announcement on restrictions. Government pretty much holding the line of '200 deaths and hospital no's. good please carry on'

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 12:39 (two years ago) link

NEW: Former Labour Minister Tom Harris has been appointed as lead non exec director at the Tory Scotland Office

— Paul Hutcheon (@paulhutcheon) October 20, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 12:52 (two years ago) link

This is the guy who's been employed as the token Voice of Sensible Labour at the Telegraph for the last god knows how many years.

Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 13:06 (two years ago) link

BREAKING: Queen cancels trip to Northern Ireland on medical advice https://t.co/cPr9uDZAQe

— The Independent (@Independent) October 20, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 13:18 (two years ago) link

Do we get more days off if she dies or more for the Platinum Jubilee thing?

groovypanda, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 14:33 (two years ago) link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58980384

Labour’s only objection to the proposed online crackdown is that it doesn’t go far enough.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 18:47 (two years ago) link

Jail for Pasha Durov! Jail for one thousand years!

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 18:50 (two years ago) link

Lol "Kieth" really got to him huh?

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 19:00 (two years ago) link

tfw you vote Conservative because its less dangerously authoritarian than Starmer Labour!

calzino, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 19:51 (two years ago) link

Labour governments have been plenty authoritarian in the past tbf.

Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 20:01 (two years ago) link

last non-fash home secretary from *any party* was roy jenkins the first time of asking only

mark s, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 20:26 (two years ago) link


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