"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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Nearly 10 minutes of various Finns laid out now

nashwan, Saturday, 12 June 2021 16:35 (two years ago) link

government at Trump levels of dog whistle fascism, fortunately the world-renowned UK press is here to hold them to account

Full Kit Starmer (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 June 2021 16:37 (two years ago) link

apparently "Great Barrington Declaration"? yeah me neither


It’s a herd immunity big science brain/anti vaccine crank thing. Would have killed millions of anyone except Sweden listened to them.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 12 June 2021 16:38 (two years ago) link

The Great Barrington Declaration, a statement written by three public health experts from Harvard, Stanford, and Oxford, encourages governments to lift lockdown restrictions on young and healthy people while focusing protection measures on the elderly. This would allow COVID-19 to spread in a population where it is less likely to be deadly, the authors state, encouraging widespread immunity that is not dependent on a vaccine.

I notice it doesn't mention they come from the Universities

calzino, Saturday, 12 June 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link

The implicit “fuck young people” part of that declaration certainly seems like it’s in play now as the variant of (alleged) concern is being encouraged to circulate and the concomitant rise in hospitalisation is shrugged off as the necessary price of being able to have beverages inside slightly earlier

The 💨 that shook the barlow (wins), Saturday, 12 June 2021 17:11 (two years ago) link

Yeah they are just delaying opening fully isn't it? Rather than restricting again. What's 100 deaths a day, when it was 10x that in winter quit crying snowflakes etc.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 12 June 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link

it must be genuinely depressing to want to be a journalist but live in the uk

plax (ico), Saturday, 12 June 2021 18:00 (two years ago) link

Only in the sense that many of my ostensible colleagues are melts, TERFs, and Tories.

the thin blue lying (suzy), Saturday, 12 June 2021 18:06 (two years ago) link

I fucking hate it because it was already a foregone conclusion that this would happen, that once indoor dining and drinking & all the rest came in cases would spread to the significant unvaccinated or part-vaccinated cohort, that this was basically the plan such as it was, and the fast-spreading delta variant that would make this worse was already known before the relaxation in May — but we have to hear about it constantly for a full month as though it’s news, and “we are looking at it” & either they will press on regardless or swerve at half past too late for the nth time and all of it is so wearing xxp

The 💨 that shook the barlow (wins), Saturday, 12 June 2021 18:13 (two years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3tc8uZWUAENfEn?format=jpg&name=900x900

le stopped clock

calzino, Saturday, 12 June 2021 22:04 (two years ago) link

Macron should realise that poking the brexiter ants next may be fun, but poking the sectarian hornets nest is ultimately much less fun.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 12 June 2021 22:09 (two years ago) link

It's pretty rich coming from France as well, but he's still completely correct!

calzino, Saturday, 12 June 2021 22:14 (two years ago) link

(xp) No skin off his nose.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 12 June 2021 22:16 (two years ago) link

Well yeah he isn't going to get stung either way if course

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 12 June 2021 22:17 (two years ago) link

it's already kicking off anyway because of the bodged Tory brexit, it's not like that insipid cunt is going to make much of a difference.

calzino, Saturday, 12 June 2021 22:22 (two years ago) link

I applaud anyone saying Northern Ireland isn't part of the UK. Even if it is a wanker like Macron who is president of a country with multiple overseas territories and he's playing to a gallery of other wankers and desperately trying to remain relevant.

calzino, Saturday, 12 June 2021 22:36 (two years ago) link

Northern Ireland is part of the UK. So he’s incorrect on that one.

Master of Treacle, Saturday, 12 June 2021 22:45 (two years ago) link

you missed out "colonised" m8

calzino, Saturday, 12 June 2021 22:52 (two years ago) link

I’m sorry about that.

Master of Treacle, Saturday, 12 June 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link

It's the part of the UK behind a trade border is what he meant to say

I gave it my all and my all wasn't enough (Matt #2), Saturday, 12 June 2021 23:06 (two years ago) link

oops, sorry for shit reading comprehension Treacle. It's been a hot day and I've had a few beers!

calzino, Saturday, 12 June 2021 23:09 (two years ago) link

Kim Leadbeater doing an interview with The Sun today. Yes, that's how to "burst the Westminster bubble" and show a different path into politics. Talk to a right-wing shitrag that have done more to foment racist hatred than any neo-fascist organisation.

calzino, Saturday, 12 June 2021 23:23 (two years ago) link

It's been far too long since the French have tried fucking up the Union. Welcome back, guys!

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 12 June 2021 23:24 (two years ago) link

Macron: "32 = 1. TAL"

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 12 June 2021 23:38 (two years ago) link

johnson/tories only very selectively decide when they care that NI is part of the UK so

plax (ico), Sunday, 13 June 2021 05:34 (two years ago) link

As someone from Belfast I assume no Tory has or will ever give a shit about NI

Master of Treacle, Sunday, 13 June 2021 06:19 (two years ago) link

Apologies for the “...as someone from (insert regional area here)”

Master of Treacle, Sunday, 13 June 2021 06:21 (two years ago) link

just saying macron could be forgiven for arriving at the conclusion that NI is considered an addendum from the negotiating positions of the UK

plax (ico), Sunday, 13 June 2021 06:44 (two years ago) link

No, no, agreed. NI has been considered a convenient addendum for a long time

Master of Treacle, Sunday, 13 June 2021 07:04 (two years ago) link

even when the Tories desperately needed the DUP to prop them up in parliament and stop a minority Corbyn govt, there were scant rewards from being in the union and pulling them out of the shit. The confidence + supply deal NI got was a billion in staggered payments over 5 years that is still less than the public spending austerity cuts they've imposed on them since 2010, and since then we've seen how these mofos can print money when they need to. And then Boris (just as May would have) predictably stiffed them over the hard border issue in the brexit deal. They really dgaf about NI.

calzino, Sunday, 13 June 2021 08:39 (two years ago) link

Northern Ireland is part of the UK.

Ireland, contra some actual academic writers, has never been part of Britain.

Also, contra Gareth Southgate, England is not an island.

the pinefox, Sunday, 13 June 2021 09:21 (two years ago) link

As someone from Belfast I assume no Tory has or will ever give a shit about NI

OTM. Apart from some of the Scottish ones, of course.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 June 2021 09:33 (two years ago) link

Rashford is an outstanding comrade (despite that blot on his CV of accepting an MBE). But Southgate, what a smug self-important Tory windbag. I'm becoming a 1000% Croatian in a few hours, but obv fuck all their ugly Ustase revivalism that makes booing the knee look lightweight on the commitment to fascism front.

calzino, Sunday, 13 June 2021 10:04 (two years ago) link

Yes, Croatia are horrible but...

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 June 2021 10:39 (two years ago) link

dominic raab considers emmanuel macron's comments "offensive" some people are too sensitive

conrad, Sunday, 13 June 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link

Macron also knows where the Channel is

nashwan, Sunday, 13 June 2021 16:00 (two years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3wb2ujWUAAm0mq?format=jpg&name=900x900

he's brought some entertainment to dull as fuck G7 summit at least

calzino, Sunday, 13 June 2021 16:02 (two years ago) link

This is the highlight of Macron's presidency tbh.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 June 2021 16:08 (two years ago) link

I thought the UK was supposed to be different "countries" anyway so is this even wrong

for the outrage to even work don't you have to implicitly accept it as occupied territory rather than as a constituent country? idgi

Left, Sunday, 13 June 2021 16:23 (two years ago) link

Yes, the UK is a union of four countries under one state, I believe.

So Macron's response is of course correct.

the pinefox, Sunday, 13 June 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link

It's really the union of England and Scotland, if you get right down to it. Wales is an add-on that came with England and NI was an invention to keep NI proddies from kicking off.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 June 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link

Johnson implying that France can, get this, make their own laws.

nashwan, Sunday, 13 June 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link

I believe that Wales is a country.

I also learn here that calling it a 'Principality' is perhaps not very correct:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/wales/entries/1fa3ef03-d94a-3a3c-a22f-093c74467401

I think that NI is also a country, though nationalists used to like to call it a 'statelet'. Also possibly a province but I think that implies 'province of Ulster' which is not really relevant to NI's legal status in the UK.

It's certainly an 'invention' but then isn't it fairly standard to say that all countries are?

You probably have to say that the Republic of Ireland, est.1949 or so, is just as much an invention.

I was thinking earlier, not for the first time, that if NI becomes part of the ROI then it will be quite destabilising - Belfast a major new centre of power to rival Dublin, a bit like Frankfurt, Milan or Barcelona - or even Glasgow - in their own countries, though parallels are always inexact. I wondered also what the analysis is of whether the ROI would have a net economic benefit or loss from incorporating NI. We hear a lot about that stuff with Scotland, but in England I have never heard an analysis of it for Ireland.

the pinefox, Sunday, 13 June 2021 18:20 (two years ago) link

'It's great to get that opening win in the Euros. The lads formed a Marxist reading group in the training camp and I think it's really benefited us today.' pic.twitter.com/Z8ZR0yNz4M

— black lives matter (@jrc1921) June 13, 2021

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 13 June 2021 21:12 (two years ago) link

Labour sources say their last week on the doorstep has been "dreadful".

"The issue is almost exclusively Palestine.. On Friday evening, Galloway had been around 45 minutes before us in one of our stomping grounds. Nobody wanted to speak to us."

— Patrick Maguire (@patrickkmaguire) June 14, 2021

calzino, Monday, 14 June 2021 08:19 (two years ago) link

"grifter" seems quite overused these days or maybe it's an era of rising grift, but Galloway is hands down the top grifter in town right now! I still think Labour would comfortably lose without him running, so like some have commented this is just Kieth getting his excuses in early. Today he's forensically declared Labour are polling badly cos the Tories are very competent ε/̵͇̿̿/’̿’̿ ̿(◡︵◡)

calzino, Monday, 14 June 2021 09:09 (two years ago) link

Yeah, you don’t leak this stuff without a motive and I suspect it’s ‘we could have won if it wasn’t for those darn Muslims’ but idk.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 14 June 2021 09:16 (two years ago) link

Halloran of the Heavy Woollen Independents not running + his voters transferring to the Tories is the main reason they'll lose imo, although Kieth alienating the Muslim community is another factor it certainly isn't the main one. Brabin would have likely lost this seat in '19 if he hadn't ran then.

calzino, Monday, 14 June 2021 09:25 (two years ago) link

It's worse than just 'Muslims' it's 'these thick Muslims cannot see through Galloway's schtick' and the way that quote comes across as also praising Galloway's ground game which is hilarious.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 June 2021 09:27 (two years ago) link


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