How do you dream?

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I want vivid, detailed, epic dreams, but I can't summon them. Do you have any suggestions?

Lyra, Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I once dreamed I was ironing pillowcases at my mothers house, and my friend Katharine recently confessed to dreaming she was in line at the post office waiting to buy a forty cent stamp. Try eating cheese and having a chasing game before bed.

rainy, Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Have a really shitty few years. You basically work out your problems in your dreams, so if your life is really in the shitter, your dreams will be very vivid and memorable. I've had some amazing ones in past years that were in every way like well-directed movies with strange camera angles, color filters and frightening special effects. There is a trick to help you lucid dream which basically is just keeping one arm bent at the elbow facing upward toward the ceiling. Do not let it fall. Each time it does, you will remember to pull it back up. Eventually, you will be in alpha and aware that you are supposed to be keeping your arm up. At this point, if you imagine you're laying in a rising elevator, you will appear to be floating up into a dream state. Some people call this astral projection, but from this point on, you can decide what you want to dream about. You'll probably have to do it for weeks before you remember not to fall asleep. Try counting backwards from 100. This gives your brain something to focus on and naturally brings you to alpha.

Nude Spock, Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Sleep with the TV on at an audible but not intrusive volume. For best results have it tuned to the Cartoon Network at the time. Seriously! The TV infiltrates your mind...

DG, Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Music doesn't help for me, you just keep waking up and listening to it (as I did last night with Bass Communion...mmm...). A frazzled day is usually enough, extra stress never hurts either (I had some completely gone dreams in 1996 building up to my decision to leave grad school before I freaked).

Ned Raggett, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I dream like Busby Berkley edited by John Waters . Techinicolor , soundtrack, pans, closeups,

anthony, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Get drunk. Seriously, my most complex and odd dreams always happen when I fall into bed in a state of mild inebriation. Note the word mild though. When I go to bed as drunk as I was on Saturday I either go out cold or dream about the previous evening and end up confused about what actually happened (eg did one of the women from Kill Rock Stars really ask me to try and fix a C++ program on her laptop at the Ladyfest gig?).

Richard Tunnicliffe, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't dream. To which people always say pedantically "everyone dreams" because they all dream. So to not run the wrath of such tediati I say "I do not remember any of my dreams".

Though i did wake up a couple of weeks ago in a cold sweat thinking I could no longer prove Pythagoras's Theorem. Couldn't get back to sleep til I did it from first principles.

Pete, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Eat a nice, big chunk of mature cheddar just before you go to bed.

Madchen, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Pete's 'people always say pedantically' = 'Emma always says pedantically'. Mine are generally pretty vivid and often seem quite long. Half-awake lucid dreams are the best though. The last dream I can remember having was discussing gypsy-style tops with Fiona Phillips off GMTV and agreeing that they make your arms look fat.

Emma, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I had a dream last night that two ILE contributors were going out! ShoXoR! The only problem is that I can only remember who one of them is (Ethan as it happens).

Tom, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

NB this dream is also proof that cheese slices ARE actual cheese because that's all I had eaten beforehand.

Tom, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I dream best when I wake up and then go back to sleep for an hour or so in the morning.. Doing this resulted in the fantastic dream recently of owning two goldy goldfish called Ebony and Ivory, shortened to Ebbo and Ivy. Sadly waking up though I went to look for them and they weren't there leading me to rant about goldfish all day.

Martin, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I have never heard of the arm trick, but the way my brother trained himself to have lucid dreams was to constantly ask himself when anything happened to him in reality, "Am I sleeping?" He then would start asking the question to himself when he slept: "Am I sleeping? Yes... cool...." and then begin his lucid dreaming. If I realize that I am dreaming, I usually wake up quite soon afterwards.

I remember my dreams about half the time when I wake up.

marianna, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

eat cheese about half an hour before sleep

Geoff, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

marmite also: not vegemite as it iz shit

mark s, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The arm trick is quite interesting. So is the "am I sleeping" trick. Music doesn't work...it wakes me up.

Lyra, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

This morning I dreamed that Belle & Sebastian had been blown up by ETA terrorists.

DG, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

If you tell somebody your dreams they won't come true.

Madchen, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Dammit, DG, you gave me hope and now it is cruelly snatched away.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Was that dream good or bad, DG?

Lyra, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Anyone get those inbetween hallucinatory states? Post-tour dreams are like that - i feel as if i'm waking up in a train station each morning.

Jason, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I dunno, I can't remember anything else about the dream except a scene in a market. The B&S thing appeared on telly, which I was watching in my dream, and I thought all those B&S fans being upset was funny. Which is a bit silly, seeing as I'm a sort-of-a-fan.

DG, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors. You will have vivid dreams every night.

Warning: if you sleep next to somebody, be prepared to apologize for punching and/or kicking them while you were in la-la land.

bnw, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Lyra, is your real name Tallulah?

Nick, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

How did you know?

Lyra, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

"Warning: if you sleep next to somebody, be prepared to apologize for punching and/or kicking them while you were in la-la land."

Wasn't there a case where a man apparently dreamt about strangling a Japanese solider to death, and when he woke up he found that he'd actually strangled his wife who was sleeping next to him?

Also, does anyone have dreams that frequently shift from first person to third person? I mean: you're walking along some imaginary street, and then all of a sudden you "lose" your body and turn into a kind of floating soul camera, whizzing in and out between people and places, cutting wildly between various shots, and then suddenly your body materilises back and you start talking to the people you were spying on.

Croooooow, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I once had a dream that giant rats were attacking me. One of them had grabbed my shoulder and I was frantically trying to beat it senseless. Imagine my chagrin when a loud, "Ow! What the FUCK???" cut through my sleep and I relaized that I'd just smacked my concerned wife (who was trying to wake me up because I was obviously having a bad dream so that she could comfort me) upside the head.

Since then, my dreams have calmed down considerably. I don't even remember most of them.

Dan Perry, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i demand tom go under advanced hypnotism so as to reveal whom i was partnered with in his dreamworld.

ethan, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

(if i am appointed hypnotist i will implant in suggestible tom's memory the sodomising stick with bees...)

mark s, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i....i hear.....i hear a great BUZZING.....and howls...yes, howls...but then LONG LOW MOANS....

Tom, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

So you've still got that vibrator you made then?

Richard Tunnicliffe, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The badge came loose.

Anyway I had another ILE dream last night - this is getting ridiculous. OK it was tangentially related to ILE but still. I also remembered Ethan's bride in the previous dream as being Mel.

Tom, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Last night I dreamed I was the protagonist a Haruki Murakami novel, accused of some crime I hadn't committed. It was getting pretty hairy, what with all these sinister Japanese secret societies on my case, but someone told me that his books always ended up with people like me being all right. I can't remember if it did, but the dream I remember involved my aunt going missing and everyone being really upset. Then Lucy woke me up by playing Radio 5 too loudly as she made whale-like splashings in the bath.

Nick, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

eighteen years pass...

Does anyone else double dream?

By double dream, I mean where you have a dream that at some point "ends" or "rewinds" and starts again, sometimes with slight variation from the first and sometimes with a feeling of deja vu or realization that you are dreaming.

I dream a lot and this happens to me quite often (at least 10% of the time). The first time I remember it happening was in my late teens or early twenties and it seems to happen more as I've gotten older.

My theory is that dreams are just your mind taking short-term memories out and storing them in long-term memory. Since our memory works by building connections to other existing memories, the dream is our mind* making these associations in broad categories (i.e. the names on the filing cabinets or folders, like "work", "father", "vacation", "home"). This is why so often a dream mixes places/people like when you dream about your adult house but it looks just like the house you grew up in: your mind is associating your current "house/home" memories with much older "house/home" memories and has to activate them to make that connection. Similarly I find people are transposed in dreams, such as where a co-worker appears but your sleeping mind "knows" within the dream-logic that the person is someone else.

I wonder if the double dream is the final part of the associative process where your sleeping mind, having made the initial connection between memories in the first dream, re-reruns the dream to ensure the connection or tighten the bond between the memories.

*Whether this process is done by your sleeping mind as part of the dream, or your waking mind instantly upon waking and trying to recall the dream, is probably a discussion for another time/thread. I tend to go with the view that dreams are mostly non-narrative (which is why they are so weird) and it is only your waking mind, attempting to make sense of the dream, that adds the narrative after the fact.

We're jumping on the road with @Nickelback this summer! (PBKR), Thursday, 13 February 2020 15:41 (seven months ago) link


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