Non-Criterion Boutique Home Video Discussion (Kino, Warner Archive, Arrow, Indicator, Vinegar Syndrome, Code Red, etc.)

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The notion was floated a while back of starting a thread to cover the myriad of non-Criterion boutique physical media distributors, and this bit of (potentially sad? although opinions are divided as to what it actually means) Warner Archive news finally prompted me to undertake the daunting process of clicking 'New Question':

QUE SERA SE-SAVINGS!
2021 is here, and with it comes change. So we and our friends at the Araca Group that manage WBShop wanted to say thank you for your support with a final 4 for 44 sale! Start your lists and get ready to save on the weekend of March 12th, 2021! See you then!

Please Hammer Stop Hurting 'Em (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:33 (one year ago) link

Oh good, that sale's still like three weeks away.

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:37 (one year ago) link

Olive Films puts out a lot of good stuff. Can't seem to find a proper home page.

https://www.deepdiscount.com/olive-films/b236587

clemenza, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:43 (one year ago) link

A small and arthouse-centric Kino sale started today alongside Criterion's: https://www.kinolorber.com/list/view/code/feb-brrr-ary-sale_2021

Please Hammer Stop Hurting 'Em (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:46 (one year ago) link

xpost I appreciate the titles that Olive releases but I'm not crazy about the fact that they're mostly bare-bones releases (usually just the film itself).

Please Hammer Stop Hurting 'Em (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:48 (one year ago) link

Agreed. Olive releases tend to make me frustrated Criterion or someone else didn't get them.

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:55 (one year ago) link

Sometimes I stream from Kino Now, does that count?

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 21:00 (one year ago) link

Weekend before last I watched some Hungarian mind game thriller that I liked, title is really long and hard to remember.

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 21:00 (one year ago) link

Huh, I didn't even know they had their own streaming service. It seems like a lot of their physical releases wind up streaming on Criterion Channel.

Please Hammer Stop Hurting 'Em (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 21:04 (one year ago) link

Wait, I misspoke. Kino Lorber does have its own streaming service called Kino Now, but I streamed PREPARATIONS TO BE TOGETHER FOR AN UNKNOWN PERIOD OF TIME from Film Forum.

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 22:43 (one year ago) link

Really hope that's not really the final Warner Archive sale! I didn't buy that often, but it was a nice thing to have around.

Nhex, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 02:03 (one year ago) link

Streaming the latest Philippe Garrel from Film Forum now before it goes away.

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 03:39 (one year ago) link

xpost My understanding is that WB is parting ways with the company that runs WB Shop. There has been speculation running the gamut from 'so this is just the final 4 for $44 with that particular distributor' to 'so this means that WB is shuttering Warner Archive altogether'. Given that WB often demonstrates the sound business acumen of a downed power line whipping madly across a roadway, the real answer could fall anywhere within that continuum.

Please Hammer Stop Hurting 'Em (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 03:56 (one year ago) link

I recommend this Philippe Garrel film.

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 05:07 (one year ago) link

I'm sad about the possible demise of WB Archive but to be honest I could never be bothered with bare bones releases, even if the transfers are very good. Without the contextualization I'd rather just stream it or, in the before times, wait until it hits a repertory cinema.

Can heartily recommend the first volume of Indicator's Columbia Noir boxes. Bought it kinda expecting scraps, but the overall level is actually pretty good, and Drive A Crooked Road might make it on a hypothetical list of my all-time fave noirs.

Second Run is another one to look out for - they specialise in Eastern European cinema, so I end up giving them less of my money than I should because I'm just not very savvy on that topic yet. But a recent release that I loved is Tomorrow I'll Wake Up And Scald Myself With Tea, which is a nazi time travel comedy (!) from Czechoslovakia. Very much official state cinema, not a Czech New Wave kind of thing, but really clever with its time travel conceit; can't think of another movie that uses it so well this side of Back To The Future.

Finally, 88 Films, headed by Nicky Wire in a banana suit, have just had British censors refuse them permission to release a blu-ray for some Italian nazisploitation orgy thing, which is dumb but also very funny if you immediatley think of dude's ilx days.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 10:58 (one year ago) link

i've been eyeing up the Second Run dvds for a while now, always meaning to buy more, but i only have the Jancso box.

koogs, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 11:42 (one year ago) link

(and Daisies. but then everyone has Daisies)

koogs, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 11:43 (one year ago) link

I'm sad about the possible demise of WB Archive but to be honest I could never be bothered with bare bones releases, even if the transfers are very good.


It's worth researching what's actually included each release, as some of their releases are completely feature-free while others are positively laden with features and occasionally even an entire extra film.

Please Hammer Stop Hurting 'Em (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 12:12 (one year ago) link

Huh. Are the latter regular Warner DVD releases that went OOP?

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 13:39 (one year ago) link

Some are. They just released Curse of Frankenstein which I think got a crummy snapcase DVD release 20 years ago in the US but was otherwise only ever available in multipacks. The new blu-ray is a two-disc set with the film in three different aspect ratios and a whole lot of new features.

Please Hammer Stop Hurting 'Em (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 13:44 (one year ago) link

Looking over my recent purchases (Curse, Shop Around the Corner, Meet Me in St. Louis, Best Years of our Lives), only Best Years is fairly stingy with the extras.

Please Hammer Stop Hurting 'Em (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 13:54 (one year ago) link

Second Run's Goodbye Dragon Inn might be my favorite release of the last year. Or at least my favorite movie that finally got a decent set.

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 13:59 (one year ago) link

Didn't realise Nicky Wire Bananaman actually ran 88 Films, but did watch one of his documentaries on a release - might have been Massacre In Dinosaur Valley? - so it makes sense.

Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 14:00 (one year ago) link

I have never understood what "nicky wire in a banana suit" means and had no idea he was a poster...is there some reasonable reason his company has that name?

rob, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 14:03 (one year ago) link

Big Hitler fan and cinephile

jammy mcnullity (wins), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 14:06 (one year ago) link

One of those more believable than the other.

Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 14:09 (one year ago) link

ugh hitler stans are so annoying

rob, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 14:11 (one year ago) link

Just did a nostalgic search through thread titles started by his most frequent identity and that was a wild ride. I didn't realise there were just so many of them.

Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 14:16 (one year ago) link

In actually relevant news I went to order that Czech film from Second Run but I can't check out the shopping cart. Oh well.

Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 14:18 (one year ago) link

yeah sorry for derail (also embarrassingly realized I've figured this out before)

still, I would probably avoid releasing nazisploitation movies with that company name

rob, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 14:34 (one year ago) link

I wasn't having a go except at myself because I thought I was derailing.

Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 15:17 (one year ago) link

there are lots of WB Archives Blu-Rays with extras. Off the top of my head, a couple Michael Curtiz movies (Dodge City + Adventures of Robin Hood) have newsreels, cartoons, short films (by Curtiz!), trailers, and multiple radio broadcasts of the film in question. Usually some contemporary interviews with scholars/critics, too.

Dunno about entire extra films though, I've only ever encountered that with Criterion. They should really emphasize that more imo, I mean the Stranger Than Paradise disc for example: it has Permanent Vacation! That's hardly an extra. Stranger Than Paradise is an extra on that disc!

flappy bird, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:06 (one year ago) link

Gaslight at least has both the 1940 and 1944 versions of the film. I could swear I have at least one other with a bonus film.

Please Hammer Stop Hurting 'Em (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:11 (one year ago) link

But yeah, Criterion (and others who do likewise) should make a bigger deal about that. I bought The Front Page from Kino not realizing that it was included on Criterion's release of His Girl Friday.

Please Hammer Stop Hurting 'Em (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:13 (one year ago) link

Most (if not all) of the Warner Archive Blu extras are ported over from the original DVDs.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:13 (one year ago) link

The first Gaslight with Anton Walbrook is grebt.

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:16 (one year ago) link

Wow, I had no idea about Gaslight. Yeah, I had the same reaction with His Girl Friday, tbh I didn't even know it had the extra movie when I bought it. I went to watch HGF again like 2 years ago and was like "what's this extra disc...? ...oh..... wtf?!!"

flappy bird, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:22 (one year ago) link

It Happened One Night has a feature length Capra silent (haven't watched yet), and the Stagecoach release has one of the best Ford silents I've seen, Bucking Broadway.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:22 (one year ago) link

Killer's Kiss included with The Killing...The Report included with Certified Copy...yeah...

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:24 (one year ago) link

I'd imagine with Criterion that it has to do with them gatekeeping what gets the official "prestige" of being included in the Collection, which kinda makes since for stuff like De Palma's Murder A La Mod (bonus for Blow Out) or the 30s version of Magnificent Obsession on the Sirk disc, but is pretty baffling choice when it comes to Permanent Vacation.

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:26 (one year ago) link

Killer's Kiss included with The Killing...The Report included with Certified Copy...yeah...

― Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Wednesday, February 24, 2021 1:24 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

YO

flappy bird, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:29 (one year ago) link

I'VE HAD THE REPORT THIS WHOLE TIME.....?

flappy bird, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:29 (one year ago) link

xxp Yeah that does make sense, it just feels like they should advertise them more, I mean I had NO idea Certified Copy came with The Report-- and I've had that disc for years!

flappy bird, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:31 (one year ago) link

But, then again, I don't read stickers!

flappy bird, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:31 (one year ago) link

My birthday present to you!

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:35 (one year ago) link

I love you

flappy bird, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:36 (one year ago) link

The studio killed the original UK Gaslight in various ways such as renaming it so as not to compete with the US remake, iirc..

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:41 (one year ago) link

Okay, MGM destroyed the negative at the time, and one or both versions were variously known as Angel Street and The Murder in Thornton Square.

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:51 (one year ago) link

Bonus films are indeed an awesome feature, though tbh I'm not sure I'll ever get around to the earlier version of Holiday

rob, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:55 (one year ago) link

I haven't looked at the Warner Archive site in years, but I remember being wary because the DVDs (and maybe the blu-rays?) were sometimes DVD-Rs/MOD. The fact that a even some factory-pressed Warner titles from about fifteen years ago became unplayable over time helped sour me on buying Warner releases. But I also just rarely watch physical discs any more, unfortunately.

xxp Another bonus feature IIRC is The Traveler on Criterion's Close-Up.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:57 (one year ago) link

Roger Corman birthday sale at Shout Factory: https://www.shoutfactory.com/sale/roger-corman-sale

A lot of this stuff doesn't look like much of a bargain at first blush but probably about half of the selections are website-exclusive limited editions or otherwise just plain out of print.

three weeks pass...

Fun City Editions brings Makavejev's The Coca Cola Kid to Blu.

https://vinegarsyndrome.com/collections/frontpage-partner-labels/products/the-coca-cola-kid-fun-city-editions

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 2 May 2022 01:12 (five months ago) link

StudioCanal launching a Cult Classics line, first three releases are Walter Hill's Extreme Prejudice and two Castellari joints: High Crime and Kill Them All And Come Back Alone. The High Crime blu seems to be a cut version tho.

https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=30576

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 10:24 (five months ago) link

One Passer down, another in the works. Look for more info in this space in the months to come. For now, please keep a spot open in the #FCE section of your shelving. #FunCityEditions #CutterandBone #CuttersWay #cultmovie #1981 #JeffBridges #JohnHeard #NewtonThornburg #IvanPasser pic.twitter.com/gbyhgUVvCH

— FunCityEditions (@FunCityEdition) May 9, 2022

I saw this rumoured a long while ago and while I'd rather the early stuff or a complete set it does say 1 of 3 so what the hell, I'm on.

*in*

two weeks pass...

Vinegar Syndrome sale is live:

https://vinegarsyndrome.com/

There's just so much they have now I don't know where to start. Maybe I'll finally buy that blu-ray of Tammy and the T-Rex.

Nhex, Friday, 27 May 2022 04:24 (four months ago) link

Severin putting out a Ray Steckler boxset, 20 films on 10 discs
https://severinfilms.com/shop/incredibly-strange-steckler-box/

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 27 May 2022 17:58 (four months ago) link

A poster on the Criterion Forum found this kinda-sorta Easter Egg on the Vinegar Syndrome site: they've picked up distribution for Mondo Vision and their catalogue of Zulawski DVD/Blus. Unfortunately, these aren't part of the sale, but they are available at a lesser discount all the same and stock is VERY LIMITED. I was also unaware they'd reissued all of their titles minus all the bric-a-brac from the collector sets.

https://vinegarsyndrome.com/collections/mondo-vision

There's an Australian Blu of Possession that has all the same stuff (same transfer, same bonus material); I bought that one not long ago.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 27 May 2022 19:48 (four months ago) link

Uggggh, why did I open this thread?!? I already gave VS a bunch of money in the middle of the night. Do I really have to give them more money now? And Severin? I...I don't see where I have a choice.

P.S. Some enterprising redditor made a list of the VS titles that are closest to being sold out. A few days out of date at this point but a useful metric all the same.

Give in, give in. (I had been planning on getting a couple of things the other week and glad I held off, perfect timing!)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 May 2022 22:06 (four months ago) link

i grabbed:

beyond the door iii
prime evil / lurkers
murder weapon / deadly embrace
nightmare sisters

consider me a roberta findlay and david decoteau fangirl

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 28 May 2022 21:52 (four months ago) link

I predict that you will have fun with those.

Kinda want to upgrade my DVDs of those three DeCoteaus (even if only to see how he managed to make an alternate TV edit of wall-to-wall nudie fest Nightmare Sisters but I'm not sure it would be worth it if VS fixed the thing where one of the movies goes full blue screen at some point in the midst of what was clearly a very half-assed VHS transfer. It's a thing of cheap-ass beauty.

three weeks pass...

Kino Lorber Summer Sale!

https://www.kinolorber.com/list/view/code/spring-into-summer-sale-2022?

A lot of newly rotated in titles, but the important thing is you can save on a Blu of Killdozer.

I've completely failed to start on this box yet. It was glowering at me again last night.

Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Friday, 24 June 2022 11:07 (three months ago) link

Coming on Blu-ray in 2023!
Brand New 4K Restoration!

The Outside Man (1972) Starring Jean-Louis Trintignant, Ann-Margret, Roy Scheider, Angie Dickinson, Michel Constantin & Umberto Orsini – Directed by Jacques Deray (Barsalino, La Piscine).

In Memory of Jean-Louis Trintignant pic.twitter.com/XPgJg9URbC

— KLStudioClassics (@KLStudioClassic) June 25, 2022

Never even heard of that! Looks intriguing.

Build My Gallows Hi Hi Hi (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 25 June 2022 21:51 (three months ago) link

The Outside Man is one of the great L.A. films (done by a Frenchman, mais oui). Trintignant desperate and overwhelmed as always, Scheider hamming it up, nice surreal touches, one of the more brutal and uncompromising final scenes of the decade.

gjoon1, Saturday, 25 June 2022 22:37 (three months ago) link

From imdb:

An "X" Rated addition used for European release contains 10 additional minutes, most notably in the scene where Jean Louis Trintignant meets Ann Margret at the downtown LA nightclub. The European version contains full frontal nudity throughout the scene. This "X" rated version screened in Los Angeles at the American Cinematheque in 1998 and was mistakenly screened as the "PG" version on Showtime Networks in 2001.

bulb after bulb, Saturday, 25 June 2022 23:05 (three months ago) link

I own a DVD of that, coupled with a middling French heist film called "Riffifi A Tokyo". It's indeed great.

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 26 June 2022 15:35 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Just dropped $150 at the Kino Sale. Can't remember the last time I spent that much on entertainment in one shot (and I drop coin on vinyl on the semi-reg too). Still, 15 BluRays!

Yeah I got about that much myself. The 5 film OSS 117 set alone!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 July 2022 03:09 (two months ago) link

How likely is Macario to get a bluray anytime soon?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 29 July 2022 22:10 (two months ago) link

New Shaw box announced!

Meanwhile, I might just delve into the world of German blu ray labels; apparently they have an edition of High Crime that's a longer cut than the recent StudioCanal one. Plus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fii5m186vzo

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 12:26 (one month ago) link

^ Justin Decloux's DIY Blu Ray label Gold Ninja Video puts out some great stuff as well, they recently got a film scanner so can now do their own scans as well. their martial arts stuff tends to go out of print quickly but I'd recommend the 10 film set Jackiesploitation which comes with all sorts of extras, commentaries etc for 22 Canadian bucks https://goldninjavideo.com/27-jackiesploitation/
they are also rereleasing their Thrilling Bloody Sword BR, an absolute fever dream of Taiwanese madness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp8_5Wn3rIM

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 12:52 (one month ago) link

arrow have a summer sale on (UK?) what you can get the female prisoner Scorpion box for half what i paid for it last month (i had vouchers)

the two I've seen are quite startling, exploitative and violent as all hell (lone wolf kind of level, nothing stronger) and stylish in that 70s Japanese way.

koogs, Monday, 15 August 2022 19:42 (one month ago) link

xpost I happily snagged the Jackiesploitation set, so thank you there.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 August 2022 20:02 (one month ago) link

Female Prisoner Scorpion first film was outrageously stylish - thinking of the murder flashback scene which is a stage play with rotating scenery - but the later ones didn't hold nearly as much charm. I enjoyed Stray Cat Rock more.

I picked up the Rogue Cops double pack and the Red edition of Giallo Essentials (which aren't really, or at least not more so than Forgotten Gialli and I'm buying them...).

There are some things that are definitely worth half price, Years Of Lead is the obvious standout I came across (but already have) or Mill of the Stone Women.

Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 16:02 (one month ago) link

2nd Scopion film still had the german expressionist angles and the colours and the staring of the first one. and i like the addition of blanket ponchos to the prison uniforms (which would be a great albeit obscure hallowwe'en costume). plus the dream songs (including a cutaway bus). the laval landscapes as well, and the copper plant slagheaps and rubbish mountains and buried villages.

stray cat rock on the todo list. and the black car thing.

koogs, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 17:15 (one month ago) link

I think the 2nd and 3rd films are much better, some of my favorite films ever, should be as famous as any Clint Eastwood films

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 17:36 (one month ago) link

it was your previous comments that made me pull the trigger (that and 35 quids worth of vouchers that expired in a month)

koogs, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 18:09 (one month ago) link

2nd scorpion also my personal fave. one of those things where I was blown away by my first watch and then started telling everyone I know that they should watch it too (who might conceivably watch something like that, anyway). but of course nobody actually did unless they had the misfortune of living with me.

anyway, gotta watch those stray cat rock movies!

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 20:56 (one month ago) link

2nd scorpion is the only one i've seen but yeah total classic

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 20:57 (one month ago) link

Maybe I should give it another go then.

Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 22:00 (one month ago) link

Scorpion 1 great, Scorpion 2 astounding
Stray Cat 1 lots of fun, Stray Cat 4 just a total ball

(opinions on the SCR series tend to be all over the map but many people seem to agree on that Scorpion ranking)

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 23:18 (one month ago) link

Kino's doing an "Up To 50% off" sale on Cohen Collection titles (Buster Keaton silents, buncha foreign stuff etc.) through 8/29.

I think the third Scorpion film has the moments that have stayed with me most.

I feel slightly ill after buying Shawscope 2 but that's partly from buying so many expensive books lately and discovering more and more rare books and print on demand books that might disappear at any time.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 00:33 (one month ago) link

the Shaw boxes are something else i would buy if they were sold 2, 3, 4 at a time rather than a dozen. see also the criterion zatoichi box.

koogs, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 03:47 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

Radiance slate looks amazing:

https://www.radiancefilms.co.uk/

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 12 September 2022 13:39 (three weeks ago) link

Well hey

I just learned that @KinoLorber is posting full movies for free on their YouTube channel, which means you maybe also didn't know they are doing this, which means I should make a thread, so let's go:https://t.co/t1p5k9yhh1

— Cy Cohen (@The_Gay_Gaze) September 15, 2022

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 September 2022 03:35 (two weeks ago) link

Nice find Ned!

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 15 September 2022 03:45 (two weeks ago) link

Wow!

Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 September 2022 10:50 (two weeks ago) link

Gotta look through all that when I get home but Babylon in particular is great

Nhex, Thursday, 15 September 2022 19:09 (two weeks ago) link

Is this for a limited time only or...?

Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 September 2022 19:16 (two weeks ago) link

Have any of those Radiance films been released yet? Want to order one but how long might the wait be? Welcome To The Dollhouse says TBC

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 19 September 2022 19:01 (two weeks ago) link

think the first batch is coming out at the start of January

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 19 September 2022 20:18 (two weeks ago) link


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