Based Bloc Québécois lol:
By Party: 'Do you intend to get vaccinated or not?'(Yes / No)BQ: 87% / 10%LPC: 85% / 8%NDP: 81% / 13%GPC: 79% / 17%CPC: 71% / 23%PPC: 34% / 58%Environics / March 1, 2021 / n=5814 / Online— Polling Canada (@CanadianPolling) April 8, 2021
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 13:22 (three years ago) link
Would be interested to see that by province. It's my impression that anti-vaxxer stuff never really took hold among francophone Québecois the way it did in anglophone North America.
― silverfish, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 13:32 (three years ago) link
Me too. It's a bit unexpected because France is anti-vaxx central in Europe, unlike the UK.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 13:35 (three years ago) link
i'd guess maybe that since most anti-vax "info" comes from disinformation/propaganda, that most of the stuff out there is in english? just a guess.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 14:19 (three years ago) link
That doesn’t square with France.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 14:21 (three years ago) link
Doesn't the anti-vax stuff come more from the yoga/healing crystals/goop wing of disinformation? I definitely think we have less of that here in Quebec.
― silverfish, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 14:29 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I get that sense as well.
On a somewhat unrelated note, this was constantly hashed and rehashed by provincial media outlets over the past few weeks but it may not have fully made its way beyond Quebec's borders, so allow me to draw your attention to this clusterfuck:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/superspreading-event-canada-megagym-quebec-1.5985744
They forgot to mention that the owner ended up in ICU for a bit and that much of the surrounding covidiocy was abetted by Quebec City's notorious trash radio stations.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 15:51 (three years ago) link
Health Canada is not restricting the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine in any specific populations at this time. The regulator has concluded very rare occurrences of blood clots may be linked to the vaccine, but it says the shot still meets safety standards. News release: pic.twitter.com/KcR7FjJO3T— CBC News Alerts (@CBCAlerts) April 14, 2021
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 17:09 (three years ago) link
get it in me!!
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link
just hook it into my veins!
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 18:19 (three years ago) link
― pomenitul, Wednesday, April 14, 2021 11:51 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
I hope this is the nail on the radio poubelles coffin.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 22:46 (three years ago) link
Also, why are Quebec City people like this
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 22:50 (three years ago) link
Amos did not immediately respond to questions as to why he was naked in his office at a time when he was supposed to be attending parliamentary proceedings.
https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/liberal-mp-causes-consternation-in-house-of-commons-after-appearing-naked-on-camera-in-front-of-colleagues
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 April 2021 00:29 (three years ago) link
WTFhttps://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/british-columbia/article-ottawa-eases-travel-restrictions-as-covid-19-variants-spread/
― pomenitul, Thursday, 15 April 2021 12:48 (three years ago) link
BC facepalm #2:
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/kelowna-fitness-studio-trying-to-ban-vaccinated-members-isn-t-supposed-to-be-open-city-says-1.5388242
― pomenitul, Thursday, 15 April 2021 13:47 (three years ago) link
Haha what
G&M is paywalled. What is the gist?
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 April 2021 14:25 (three years ago) link
Does this work?
https://apple.news/AhDJBebZYS9ah85lVXyZHPQ
― pomenitul, Thursday, 15 April 2021 14:30 (three years ago) link
Yes thx
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 April 2021 14:33 (three years ago) link
Apparently, we have scientists in this country that don't understand the concept of community mitigation
― Punster McPunisher, Thursday, 15 April 2021 15:14 (three years ago) link
A friend last week predicted we'd hit 10,000 daily cases in Ontario before things settled down. I thought he was crazy, and I still can't see it. But we're just shy of 5,000 today.
― clemenza, Thursday, 15 April 2021 15:34 (three years ago) link
wow the antivaxx passport is a new level of stupidity
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Thursday, 15 April 2021 15:47 (three years ago) link
Looks like we're plateauing around 1,500 in Quebec right now, which honestly doesn't seem so bad – we've seen much, much worse. It's sad to see Ontario cases spike every other day, though. Perhaps something more stringent than a non-binding (correct me if I'm wrong) stay-at-home order will be required?
― pomenitul, Thursday, 15 April 2021 15:49 (three years ago) link
we got an emergency text saying "stay home, it's the law" - not sure why that didn't fix everything
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 April 2021 15:53 (three years ago) link
I need Doug to show up at my door and convince me to stay home.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 15 April 2021 15:58 (three years ago) link
Only if he says 'pretty please?'
― pomenitul, Thursday, 15 April 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link
I still don't stay home in the literal sense, but 99% of my time outside is just walking with no one near. I'd estimate 5-10 minutes a day (getting coffee, supermarket, post office) within range of anyone else.
― clemenza, Thursday, 15 April 2021 16:02 (three years ago) link
(And we're back down to two active cases in St. Marys.)
― clemenza, Thursday, 15 April 2021 16:03 (three years ago) link
You shouldn't let your guard down, of course, but I wouldn't be worried at all if I were you.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 15 April 2021 16:05 (three years ago) link
I never really have been through this whole thing, a luxury I've been granted because of where I am. Right now, I'm not sure if it's more depressing on nice days or dreary ones. I suggested to someone last week that nice days were the worst--if it's dreary you don't want to go out anyway, and walking around on a beautiful day with mostly empty streets feels so wrong--but then there'll be a cool, drizzly day like today and I think, "No, this is much worse."
― clemenza, Thursday, 15 April 2021 16:11 (three years ago) link
Don't worry, Ontario, Newfoundland is here with unspecified assistance!
Hahaha wow, thanks, folks - our team needed that laugh for a minute today. And this is why you don't do social media in a hurry... clearly we were on speaker, and just about to head off to the COVID briefing. 😅 https://t.co/Hi3BsEOYJq— Andrew Furey (@FureyAndrew) April 14, 2021
Goof took the bait from people fussing about the phone screen being on.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 15 April 2021 16:15 (three years ago) link
... he isn't known to be deaf. Anyways.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 15 April 2021 16:16 (three years ago) link
more lockdown restrictions coming for Ontario tomorrow bc the Ford gov't still doesn't fucking get it
the restrictions won't be "paid sick leave and a competent vaccine rollout" i'm guessing
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 15 April 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link
Very curious--what else can they do?
I assume grocery stores or take-out at restaurants (which I do two or three times a week) won't be affected. A curfew? I'd hate the symbolism, although personally, it wouldn't affect me much--I'd bump my evening walk by a couple of hours. I was supposed to golf next week; I guess they could shut that down, even though I don't remember any reports of golf-course spread.
You're right, of course; vaccinations. I stumbled onto a booking yesterday through sheer chance, a random post in a town FB group; it's chaotic figuring out what to do.
― clemenza, Thursday, 15 April 2021 20:26 (three years ago) link
Going back to the 8pm curfew has been brutal.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 16 April 2021 00:01 (three years ago) link
I was just complaining about this to a friend who lives in NY and he was just like ‘sorry you have a responsible government’. Point taken, although it requires extra caveats to thoroughly land.
― pomenitul, Friday, 16 April 2021 00:31 (three years ago) link
This story seems... odd:
@CBCNews has learned from sources with knowledge of the request, that @fordnation asked @jkenney for healthcare workers to send to #Ontario for help with their #COVID19 surge. #Alberta has not made any committments. A request was also made of @PremierScottMoe— Kathleen Petty (@kathleen_petty) April 15, 2021
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 16 April 2021 01:40 (three years ago) link
This is rather stunning, even making allowances for alarmism-sells:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-covid-ford-curfew-1.5989426
I said just above that I've never really been worried, and that's true--never enough to ground myself--but that does make you want to barricade yourself at home.
― clemenza, Friday, 16 April 2021 01:51 (three years ago) link
The government has provided data on workplace clusters in Fraser Health and Coastal Health since the start of February. The information is quite interesting!Fraser Health = spread out, but manufacturing the biggestCoastal Health = HEAVILY bars and restaurants pic.twitter.com/plxIBSiByu— Justin McElroy (@j_mcelroy) April 15, 2021
Some people are thinking the "other" category is because the government is hiding something.To be clear, this is my extrapolation of the data provided to try and highlight the most interesting things as estimates.Here is the raw charts. pic.twitter.com/yBiswsLYLQ— Justin McElroy (@j_mcelroy) April 15, 2021
afaik BC has never released this kind of info on where outbreaks were happening. Can see why they decided to shut down indoor dining.
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 16 April 2021 02:24 (three years ago) link
This data should've been released way before, specially since there will always be, on average, a two-week lag due to onset of symptoms.
In places with high transmission rates, data also indicates that deaths occur two to eight weeks after the onset of symptoms.
So the high number of cases actually indicates behaviour from about roughly two weeks ago.
Considering some (or a lot of) people may be asymptomatic or have minor symptoms, the number to look out for here is the hospitalization rates.
Stateside, there were cities with hospitals overcapacity, with areas set up outside to keep watch of any emergency cases. But a lot of people seeking medical help were being turned down if their symptoms were not severe or life-threatening.
BC has hospitals that are already overcapacity, but the real effect of Covid will start once there aren't enough paramedics to pick up people who are close to dying or when there aren't enough nurses to treat patients. Unfortunately, it looks like that may just happen:
https://vancouversun.com/health/local-health/b-c-hospital-capacity-concerns-centre-on-staff-not-beds
We had an entire country to the south of us with all these problems. You'd think we'd bother to look over the data and study how to better manage a pandemic in cities with high transmission rates.
― Punster McPunisher, Friday, 16 April 2021 06:44 (three years ago) link
BREAKING: @JustinTrudeau says he’s ready to deploy mobile Red Cross vaccination teams to Ontario.— David Akin 🇨🇦 (@davidakin) April 16, 2021
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 16 April 2021 16:16 (three years ago) link
ok
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Friday, 16 April 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link
maybe he should do it then
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Friday, 16 April 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link
Might need a request or approval from the province? Not sure how it works.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 16 April 2021 16:32 (three years ago) link
Ford is already saying thanks but no thanks. Stupid--why would you ever turn down help?
― clemenza, Friday, 16 April 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link
Would help more if we had some vaccines to administer. I think maybe they should stop throwing around words like “secured” when obviously it’s actually completely contingent on whatever new shit will come up.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/feds-secure-8-million-more-pfizer-doses-as-moderna-cuts-coming-shipments-1.5390234
― Kim, Friday, 16 April 2021 16:51 (three years ago) link
Ontario / Quebec border reportedly closing on Monday.
― pomenitul, Friday, 16 April 2021 20:48 (three years ago) link
https://www.macleans.ca/society/health/the-superspreader-events-that-governments-let-happen/
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 16 April 2021 21:26 (three years ago) link
Apparently Ontario has over a millions doses frozen in storage right now.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 17 April 2021 00:10 (three years ago) link
gl ontario
― sean gramophone, Saturday, 17 April 2021 01:08 (three years ago) link
A little worrying when police departments are more reasonable than elected officials: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-police-checks-covid19-1.5991872
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Saturday, 17 April 2021 17:43 (three years ago) link