Defenestrate Them All: Canadian Politics 2021

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“Even after Canadians receive two vaccine doses, they won’t be able to count on relaxing individual and population-level public health measures like masking, physical distancing and avoiding gatherings because not enough is known about the effect of vaccines on variants, or on asymptomatic infection and transmission.
Unlike the United States, where the Centers for Disease Control has published clear and evolving guidelines for what fully vaccinated people are allowed to do, the Public Health Agency of Canada thinks it’s too early to say what freedoms might be ahead.”

This is a bit much for me. I’m all for doing what’s necessary, but in the face of total unknowns, it does feel like this kind of position should never be our default.

Kim, Sunday, 11 April 2021 02:57 (three years ago) link

Everyone living or working in Whistler is now eligible for the vaccine...we might not have any horses left, but that barn door is gonna be nice and shut

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Sunday, 11 April 2021 21:57 (three years ago) link

whistler certainly seems like the case of too little too late now.

scanner darkly, Sunday, 11 April 2021 22:19 (three years ago) link

Wow, Ontario has 612 covid patients in ICU today. Total normal capacity is something like 2300 I believe, and I’m sure all those usual numbers haven’t just evaporated, so that’s getting very bad.

Sounds like they are probably flip flopping on the in person school plans again this afternoon.

Kim, Monday, 12 April 2021 18:07 (three years ago) link

they have 6 days to figure it out, so i would expect them to not discuss things until saturday at the earliest.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 12 April 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link

lol

Kim, Monday, 12 April 2021 18:48 (three years ago) link

Yeah, they are doing it.

Kim, Monday, 12 April 2021 19:07 (three years ago) link

"Indefinitely" makes me think they've already decided it's for the rest of the year. On a personal level, the last thing I wanted.

clemenza, Monday, 12 April 2021 19:47 (three years ago) link

got my vaccination appointment on 4/20

blaze it

Van Horn Street, Monday, 12 April 2021 21:08 (three years ago) link

That's great. Where are you? All I get are busy signals and waiting lists.

Pretty unflattering story on CNN today about Canada's pandemic situation.

clemenza, Monday, 12 April 2021 21:09 (three years ago) link

Props, VHS! (A fellow Montrealer btw.)

pomenitul, Monday, 12 April 2021 21:13 (three years ago) link

Montreal yeah, but since I'm working with the homeless population I'm fast tracked.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 12 April 2021 21:17 (three years ago) link

Respect.

pomenitul, Monday, 12 April 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link

I'm trying to figure out if I can use my volunteer work to book a dang shot somewhere, but I haven't seen anything that seems applicable yet.

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Monday, 12 April 2021 23:00 (three years ago) link

Simon, I guess you don't live in a hotspot?

got my first Moderna jab today, feeling great but also feeling more angry than ever at the clusterfuck rollout of this sad, sad province

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 12 April 2021 23:26 (three years ago) link

not in a hotspot no. good for you!!

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Monday, 12 April 2021 23:34 (three years ago) link

all of Toronto should be a hotspot ffs

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 12 April 2021 23:40 (three years ago) link

Nice Murgatroid! et otm.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 12 April 2021 23:42 (three years ago) link

All provinces in Canada rule alike; but each province is sad in its own way.

"The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 02:54 (three years ago) link

Based Bloc Québécois lol:

By Party: 'Do you intend to get vaccinated or not?'

(Yes / No)

BQ: 87% / 10%
LPC: 85% / 8%
NDP: 81% / 13%
GPC: 79% / 17%
CPC: 71% / 23%
PPC: 34% / 58%

Environics / March 1, 2021 / n=5814 / Online

— Polling Canada (@CanadianPolling) April 8, 2021

pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 13:22 (three years ago) link

Would be interested to see that by province. It's my impression that anti-vaxxer stuff never really took hold among francophone Québecois the way it did in anglophone North America.

silverfish, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 13:32 (three years ago) link

Me too. It's a bit unexpected because France is anti-vaxx central in Europe, unlike the UK.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 13:35 (three years ago) link

i'd guess maybe that since most anti-vax "info" comes from disinformation/propaganda, that most of the stuff out there is in english? just a guess.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 14:19 (three years ago) link

That doesn’t square with France.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 14:21 (three years ago) link

Doesn't the anti-vax stuff come more from the yoga/healing crystals/goop wing of disinformation? I definitely think we have less of that here in Quebec.

silverfish, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 14:29 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I get that sense as well.

On a somewhat unrelated note, this was constantly hashed and rehashed by provincial media outlets over the past few weeks but it may not have fully made its way beyond Quebec's borders, so allow me to draw your attention to this clusterfuck:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/superspreading-event-canada-megagym-quebec-1.5985744

They forgot to mention that the owner ended up in ICU for a bit and that much of the surrounding covidiocy was abetted by Quebec City's notorious trash radio stations.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 15:51 (three years ago) link

Health Canada is not restricting the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine in any specific populations at this time. The regulator has concluded very rare occurrences of blood clots may be linked to the vaccine, but it says the shot still meets safety standards. News release: pic.twitter.com/KcR7FjJO3T

— CBC News Alerts (@CBCAlerts) April 14, 2021

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 17:09 (three years ago) link

get it in me!!

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link

just hook it into my veins!

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 18:19 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I get that sense as well.

On a somewhat unrelated note, this was constantly hashed and rehashed by provincial media outlets over the past few weeks but it may not have fully made its way beyond Quebec's borders, so allow me to draw your attention to this clusterfuck:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/superspreading-event-canada-megagym-quebec-1.5985744

They forgot to mention that the owner ended up in ICU for a bit and that much of the surrounding covidiocy was abetted by Quebec City's notorious trash radio stations.

― pomenitul, Wednesday, April 14, 2021 11:51 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I hope this is the nail on the radio poubelles coffin.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 22:46 (three years ago) link

Also, why are Quebec City people like this

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 22:50 (three years ago) link

Amos did not immediately respond to questions as to why he was naked in his office at a time when he was supposed to be attending parliamentary proceedings.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/liberal-mp-causes-consternation-in-house-of-commons-after-appearing-naked-on-camera-in-front-of-colleagues

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 April 2021 00:29 (three years ago) link

Haha what

G&M is paywalled. What is the gist?

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 April 2021 14:25 (three years ago) link

Does this work?

https://apple.news/AhDJBebZYS9ah85lVXyZHPQ

pomenitul, Thursday, 15 April 2021 14:30 (three years ago) link

Yes thx

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 April 2021 14:33 (three years ago) link

Apparently, we have scientists in this country that don't understand the concept of community mitigation

Punster McPunisher, Thursday, 15 April 2021 15:14 (three years ago) link

A friend last week predicted we'd hit 10,000 daily cases in Ontario before things settled down. I thought he was crazy, and I still can't see it. But we're just shy of 5,000 today.

clemenza, Thursday, 15 April 2021 15:34 (three years ago) link

wow the antivaxx passport is a new level of stupidity

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Thursday, 15 April 2021 15:47 (three years ago) link

Looks like we're plateauing around 1,500 in Quebec right now, which honestly doesn't seem so bad – we've seen much, much worse. It's sad to see Ontario cases spike every other day, though. Perhaps something more stringent than a non-binding (correct me if I'm wrong) stay-at-home order will be required?

pomenitul, Thursday, 15 April 2021 15:49 (three years ago) link

we got an emergency text saying "stay home, it's the law" - not sure why that didn't fix everything

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 April 2021 15:53 (three years ago) link

I need Doug to show up at my door and convince me to stay home.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 15 April 2021 15:58 (three years ago) link

Only if he says 'pretty please?'

pomenitul, Thursday, 15 April 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link

I still don't stay home in the literal sense, but 99% of my time outside is just walking with no one near. I'd estimate 5-10 minutes a day (getting coffee, supermarket, post office) within range of anyone else.

clemenza, Thursday, 15 April 2021 16:02 (three years ago) link

(And we're back down to two active cases in St. Marys.)

clemenza, Thursday, 15 April 2021 16:03 (three years ago) link

You shouldn't let your guard down, of course, but I wouldn't be worried at all if I were you.

pomenitul, Thursday, 15 April 2021 16:05 (three years ago) link

I never really have been through this whole thing, a luxury I've been granted because of where I am. Right now, I'm not sure if it's more depressing on nice days or dreary ones. I suggested to someone last week that nice days were the worst--if it's dreary you don't want to go out anyway, and walking around on a beautiful day with mostly empty streets feels so wrong--but then there'll be a cool, drizzly day like today and I think, "No, this is much worse."

clemenza, Thursday, 15 April 2021 16:11 (three years ago) link


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