Defenestrate Them All: Canadian Politics 2021

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This definitely clears things up for Ontario:

NEW: The Premier’s Office has sent out an FAQ about yesterday’s stay-at-home announcement in Ontario. Answers below 👇🏼#onpoli pic.twitter.com/6LiV2UH8EV

— Laura Stone (@l_stone) January 13, 2021

Sharp! Distance! (Sund4r), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:50 (one week ago) link

Basically, they are not defining anything but I think this still holds true from yesterday?: "The province will provide authority to all provincial offences officers, including the Ontario Provincial Police, local police forces, bylaw officers, and provincial workplace inspectors to issue tickets to individuals who do not comply with the stay-at-home-order..." It just seems like delegating all judgment to the police? How did they manage to make this even less coherent?

Sharp! Distance! (Sund4r), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:51 (one week ago) link

o m g. Forget that generous feeling I mentioned yesterday. That is really bad.

Kim, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:56 (one week ago) link

You can envision, when this ends, a court system backed up for years litigating the meaning of "unique circumstances" and "may legitimately be necessary."

clemenza, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:59 (one week ago) link

seems very easy for police to apply these guidelines in unequal ways

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 19:42 (one week ago) link

“Police have also been authorized to shoot offenders,” Ford mumbled wistfully.

Guys don’t @ me because I tazed my own balls alright? (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 19:53 (one week ago) link

to follow up on doofusy tweets by leaders of the CPC:

I don’t think Canada needs another slogan, it needs a plan. Do you agree?

We need to build back stronger, and the only way that can happen is with a united country. 🇨🇦 pic.twitter.com/rYx2zqIUNy

— Erin O'Toole (@erinotoole) October 1, 2020

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 20:39 (one week ago) link

I remember people sharing this piece in 2015 and thinking it was dubious since a Tory advertising strategy v clearly was then and is now to portray Trudeau as a "vapid...airhead", as per that ad (and, er, slogan): https://www.feministcurrent.com/2015/10/23/dont-worry-justin-trudeau-will-never-be-hurt-by-sexist-objectification/ . That said, the fact that this strategy has yet to find success might prove her right idk.

Sharp! Distance! (Sund4r), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 20:46 (one week ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJjdsm4B7bc

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 20:47 (one week ago) link

really doubt those "nice hair" ads shifted a single vote

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 21:10 (one week ago) link

That O’Toole tweet is pretty interesting in light of all the recent fringey freak outs over politicians using the almost same phrase “build back better” as some coded globalist conspiracy about “the great reset”.

Kim, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 22:36 (one week ago) link

build back better = evil, globalist, pedo ring

build back stronger = good common sense, a plan not a slogan, Canada first

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 22:54 (one week ago) link

I don't think Canada needs another slogan! It needs three new slogans! Take that, Canada!

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 22:55 (one week ago) link

“Canada needs a handyman” you expect the guy in the photo to be Mike Holmes.

Kim, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 23:39 (one week ago) link

Yeah, at the risk of giving the Tories a better campaign idea, what's funny is that he could have made it "Canada needs a captain" or "Canada needs a pilot" and made a reference to his actually respectable air force career. Instead he concluded that pretending to be Bob the Builder is the ticket to victory.

Sharp! Distance! (Sund4r), Thursday, 14 January 2021 00:47 (one week ago) link

The right O'Toole for the job!

doug watson, Thursday, 14 January 2021 01:16 (one week ago) link

OK, here's the actual stay-at-home order. The announcements had been written badly but it seems like getting curbside pickup is OK: https://files.ontario.ca/solgen-stay-at-home-order-2021-01-13.pdf . I'm not sure what the difference from the previous lockdown is.

Sharp! Distance! (Sund4r), Thursday, 14 January 2021 01:47 (one week ago) link

Erin "o'Toole Man" Taylor

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Thursday, 14 January 2021 02:43 (one week ago) link

Hm, if this is accurate, maybe school closures are more justified than I thought tbh (URL does not describe comments - a new U de M study finds that elementary schools are a driving factor behind the spread of COVID in Montreal): https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/emsb-unveils-air-purifiers-maintaining-they-will-slow-spread-of-covid-19

Inside there's a box and that box has another box within (Sund4r), Thursday, 14 January 2021 04:16 (one week ago) link

Yeah, it's worth bringing that article up again since the 2020 thread is now closed.

I don't know about Ontario or even the rest of Quebec, to be honest, but closing schools anew would certainly be justified in Montreal right now. I suspect we'll hit a new hospitalization peak in the coming days. As soon as it subsides, Legault will claim victory and argue that keeping schools open was the right call. A couple of weeks later, we'll be back to square one and he'll be forced to implement even stricter lockdown measures. It seems to me that his strategy is reactive rather than proactive, partly because the general population prefers it that way (it makes the decision-making process more 'legible', as it were, and seeing is believing). Regardless, I do hope to be proven wrong.

pomenitul, Thursday, 14 January 2021 04:45 (one week ago) link

Oh ha, did you already share it? I just saw it tonight, my bad.

Inside there's a box and that box has another box within (Sund4r), Thursday, 14 January 2021 05:09 (one week ago) link

Warning: National Post, but I can't find another English source for this atm.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/head-of-radio-canada-spent-month-of-december-in-his-miami-condo-despite-public-health-warnings

pomenitul, Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:38 (one week ago) link

Does it make a difference that he's not an elected official?

jmm, Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:53 (one week ago) link

I think it does, it's just that CBC/Radio-Canada have been campaigning against non-essential travel for months now.

pomenitul, Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:56 (one week ago) link

There's a rep for the small-business association who appears on a London radio station regularly. She was just on and quite upset. I've heard her many times and trust the accuracy of what she says. 1) With the 8:00 curbside pickup rule in effect, Amazon is allowed to deliver after 8:00 p.m. (not sure if they actually do that) while small-business owners are not allowed to personally run over a delivery after their stores close; 2) Walmart and Costco are still allowed to stay open after 8:00 p.m. as long as they meet the 50% food threshold (maybe I have the number wrong--that seems high).

clemenza, Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:33 (one week ago) link

Setting an 8:00 pm limit does seem a bit like a very soft curfew, and I don't know that I see the point of those, but it also seems relatively generous for most small businesses, I think?

Inside there's a box and that box has another box within (Sund4r), Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:48 (one week ago) link

I think it's more the two sets of rules than the curfew itself. As she put it, the government--and she urged the host to get someone on to explain their reasoning--has opted for one side.

clemenza, Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:50 (one week ago) link

It might be possible that the 8pm curbside rule is meant to target some specific kind of nightlife or gatherings using it as a loophole, maybe culturally linked, so they don’t want to say it explicitly. It doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense otherwise.

Kim, Thursday, 14 January 2021 20:20 (one week ago) link

That's how I understand it as well. Maybe it's also a way to minimize the devil-may-care side effects of late night alcohol/drug use.

pomenitul, Thursday, 14 January 2021 20:23 (one week ago) link

This is such a fucking dumb gamble, I'm honestly livid right now:

https://globalnews.ca/news/7576475/quebec-coronavirus-covid-19-vaccination-second-doses-90-days/

The WHO is against it and Pfizer-BioNTech threatened to withdraw their vaccine supply from Quebec if we don't follow the two-dose schedule yet they're going with their moronic gut feeling anyway.

pomenitul, Thursday, 14 January 2021 22:12 (one week ago) link

I can't take this government anymore.

I couldn't before the pandemic. Now it's becoming irrational.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 14 January 2021 22:38 (one week ago) link

I'm the same, and there's nothing irrational about it! I cut Legault a fuckton of slack last year but his last few calls are indefensible given how poorly things are going. We're about to overtake France's no. of deaths/1M pop, ffs!

Fwiw my dad works in the healthcare sector and I think this dicey 90-day lag between doses just broke him.

pomenitul, Thursday, 14 January 2021 22:44 (one week ago) link

Why would they do this? Just bc they can give out first doses to more people this way?

Inside there's a box and that box has another box within (Sund4r), Thursday, 14 January 2021 22:44 (one week ago) link

Yes, except it's not much of a mid- to long-term plan for the province. The feds are saying we shouldn't wait more than 42 days before administering the second dose. Legault wants more than double that, with precious little to back him up.

pomenitul, Thursday, 14 January 2021 22:47 (one week ago) link

I do not share any of the outrage about this! Loads of epidemiologists and virologists agree that "first doses first" might be the best plan, and Biden (and the UK) have both advanced similar proposals. Basically, there is disagreement in the scientific community. Accordingly, I am comfortable with elected government making informed choices. I think I agree with them that generalized immunity for more people is more important than total immunity for a smaller population at this point.

Pfizer-BioNTech did not "threaten" the government - Legault was asked what he would do if they made a threat like that and he said of course the government would comply.

sean gramophone, Friday, 15 January 2021 01:10 (one week ago) link

My wording was indeed off. This is what I was referring to:

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/pfizer-could-withdraw-vaccine-supply-from-quebec-if-two-dose-schedule-not-followed-legault-1.5262256

Anyhow, suit yourself. It goes without saying that I am not a medical expert myself, but I will continue to trust my dad, an infectious diseases specialist, in this matter. Perhaps the government's little experiment will pay off, perhaps it will backfire. Time will tell. Either way, we are essentially being used as guinea pigs right now, and it's not something I am at all comfortable with seeing as official recommendations are being flouted.

pomenitul, Friday, 15 January 2021 01:27 (one week ago) link

Canada's National Advisory Committee believes that the second dose can be delayed for up to six weeks:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/vaccine-panel-ok-to-delay-second-dose-1.5871677

Between six weeks and 90 days, the difference is rather stark.

pomenitul, Friday, 15 January 2021 01:31 (one week ago) link

(The UK's doing 12 weeks too.)

sean gramophone, Friday, 15 January 2021 01:33 (one week ago) link

Just some more perspective on the amount of debate:

Will delay of the 2nd dose of vaccines promote virus resistance? https://t.co/aaTvv6ATIs @meredithwadman w/ @florian_krammer @PaulBieniasz @jbloom_lab @sarahcobey
Debated here, mostly likely no.
There's also a case for stronger immune response by delay, not discussed/studied pic.twitter.com/PEcXiChlIY

— Eric Topol (@EricTopol) January 14, 2021

sean gramophone, Friday, 15 January 2021 01:34 (one week ago) link

Good for them? Their handling of the pandemic has been absolutely atrocious so far.

xp

pomenitul, Friday, 15 January 2021 01:34 (one week ago) link

Which vaccine are we talking about by the way?

Because this article (from yesterday) suggests that 'spacing out doses of the AstraZeneca/Oxford vaccine may be more effective at protecting people':

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/13/second-shots-of-covid-vaccine-could-be-delayed-further-in-england

That may well be true, but to my knowledge we haven't even approved that one yet.

pomenitul, Friday, 15 January 2021 01:40 (one week ago) link

The plot thickens...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pfizer-temporarily-reducing-vaccine-deliveries-1.5874645

pomenitul, Friday, 15 January 2021 15:53 (one week ago) link

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/15/canada-ontario-doug-ford-lockdown-covid-19-toronto/

Ontario mess made the WaPo.

The stuff with Baber up in York is really bad news for Ford I think. That letter is reinforcing a lot of anti lockdown arguments that sound reasonable to a lot of people, notably from the c2c article that’s gone viral amongst conservatives lately. The false premises in it require too sophisticated a takedown to easily counter. Baber is being called a hero and a whistleblower. ffs. Ford’s original support is very fractured and a large portion has observably moved farther right, and while that could be an exploitable political weakness, I still find it ominous and upsetting.

Kim, Saturday, 16 January 2021 15:44 (one week ago) link

I ran into a neighbour while out walking yesterday and asked him about my coffee question above. Which I know seems utterly insignificant, but, as I explained to him, it has next to nothing to do with coffee--obviously, I can make that at home. It’s much more about simply going in there; if you’re on your own during one of these lockdowns, many days that’ll be the only interaction you have with anyone that doesn’t take place on a computer screen. To that end, I thought his idea for what I should say if I ever got questioned was pretty sensible, seeing as “essential” has been deemed to vary from person to person: call it a mental-health issue.

Turns out be nothing anyway. The only two cops here come in from Stratford; they work out of the municipal building that’s a few dozen steps around the corner from Tim’s. There’s usually a car parked outside, so last night I just asked the guy. I don’t think he answered immediately--there was a slight pause, like he wasn’t sure either--but he said it was fine. Which means, for me, there’s no change at all that I can think of between now and what was already in place as of Boxing Day. And I don’t see that there will be, for me, until and unless schools reopen.

clemenza, Saturday, 16 January 2021 16:44 (one week ago) link

What do we make of Blanchet's comments on Alghabra? "His ties to the political Islamic movement raise questions" is vague and almost seems like innuendo, although I wonder if there's some context I'm missing.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/01/15/nouveau-ministre-trudeau-qualifie-les-propos-du-chef-bloquiste-dinacceptables-1
https://globalnews.ca/news/7574235/bloc-quebecois-omar-alghabra-criticism/

On Twitter, he mostly also seems to be avoiding saying anything direct but shares articles like this, which, despite its, uh, questionable take, does at least specify what he might be taking issue with (the group's, acc to the author, anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian leanings and ostensible support of Hamas): https://www.ledevoir.com/opinion/chroniques/593416/bonne-semaine-pour-l-islam

Inside there's a box and that box has another box within (Sund4r), Sunday, 17 January 2021 03:35 (one week ago) link

I wonder if there's some context I'm missing.

The context is dogwhistling. Blanchet is said to have taken his cue from 'Rebel News', as it's now called:

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/politique/2021-01-15/propos-sur-le-nouveau-ministre-omar-alghabra/blanchet-seme-l-intolerance-dit-trudeau.php

pomenitul, Sunday, 17 January 2021 03:51 (one week ago) link

Really, though, it's just a racist procès d'intention and Lisée is now trying to put some flesh on it.

pomenitul, Sunday, 17 January 2021 03:56 (one week ago) link

Huh, "Biden indicates plans to cancel Keystone XL pipeline permit on 1st day in office, sources confirm": https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/biden-keystone-xl-1.5877038

Inside there's a box and that box has another box within (Sund4r), Monday, 18 January 2021 18:23 (one week ago) link

My wife's very happy about that.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 18 January 2021 18:43 (one week ago) link

good excuse for them to get rid of a headache, but I'll take it

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 02:33 (six days ago) link

Am I the only person in the country that thinks this is overblown? Like, how is someone supposed to vet every donation? This guy gave Sloan like $100, he’s supposed to have his people research every donation, recognize the name of this Nazi?

Maybe that’s a good idea, I don’t know, but is that kind of deep dive SOP?

I’m glad Sloan’s gone, he is a human cancer, but it feels like a weird scandal.

Can you even donate to an individual MP without it going through the party in the first place? I don't think there's a way for me to donate directly to Catherine McKenna or Joel Harden but not to the Liberals or NDP?

Inside there's a box and that box has another box within (Sund4r), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 03:44 (six days ago) link

the donation was for sloan's leadership campaign

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 04:03 (six days ago) link

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/white-nationalist-donation-derek-sloan-1.5878070

sloan claims he had no idea who the guy was and is returning the money, but no denunciation of white supremacism in his statements either. there's a long history of denouncing and returning embarrassing political donations, and I agree politicians probably can't vet everything. O'Toole is just taking the opportunity to get rid of a headache.

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 04:07 (six days ago) link

It’s not that he accepted the donation. It’s that his specific policies attracted it.

Kim, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 04:59 (six days ago) link

definitely o’toole using a good opportunity. agreed it’s overblown, but part of the reason is that it’s the kind of thing that goes with the rest of what sloan represents. this is the guy who said he’d designate antifa as a terrorist group, after all.

the best part is that it’ll damage cpc as well, and deservingly so. they had many opportunities to get rid of sloan before.

in any case, i’ll celebrate derek finally getting what he deserved. too bad he blocked me on fb/twitter.

scanner darkly, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 05:00 (six days ago) link

sloan is so disingenuous about the shit he propagates, justifying his antivax petition with the "any constituent can write a petition" defence. he's done and said a ton of things that merit getting the boot.

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 05:48 (six days ago) link

Oh I see, so the donation was given through the party but meant for Sloan's leadership campaign per se and, even while the party did take a cut, the issue is that Sloan attracted that element in the first place?

Inside there's a box and that box has another box within (Sund4r), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 06:42 (six days ago) link

seems like you can give up to $1500 directly to a leadership contestant (but yeah the conservatives took a 10% cut). and you can give to electoral district associations or party-endorsed candidates, not just to parties.

https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=res&dir=ces&document=part6&lang=e

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 06:59 (six days ago) link

Reportedly a glitch in the reporting, but cases do seem to be coming down. In London, their 5-day average is down ~35%.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/covid-19-ontario-january-19-2021-vaccine-update-1.5878789

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:09 (six days ago) link

lol, why do Canadians do this?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsMp0HAXMAE0EwX?format=png&name=240x240

jmm, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:17 (five days ago) link

Annoying, but I accept it. Vague moral superiority is pretty gentle as far as nationalism goes. If we don’t have social cohesion, we lose our social programs.

Kim, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:40 (five days ago) link

Oh hey,

Not sure this should have been the event that triggered it, but Sloan is booted. Well deserved.

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2021/01/20/conservatives-mps-eject-derek-sloan-in-a-secret-ballot-vote.html

Kim, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:05 (five days ago) link

I'm not really up on this guy, so yes, you guessed it, first reaction: "Huh? Far from great, but a couple of songs weren't bad."

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:09 (five days ago) link

it's nice to see o'toole jumping on this so quickly and decisively - harper would've likely doubled down in a similar scenario,
but i have a feeling this will be seen as a weakness by his caucus.

scanner darkly, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:32 (five days ago) link

Yeah I'm underwhelmed by how O'Toole demanded that his caucus had to "coax me" into ejecting Sloan

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:03 (five days ago) link

poorly formed joeks aside, I thought this Andrew Coyne article was excellent:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-the-conservatives-have-a-hypocrisy-problem-that-goes-beyond-derek/

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:05 (five days ago) link

"Derek Sloan is right. It is hypocritical for the Conservative Party to kick him out of caucus for unwittingly accepting a donation from the notorious neo-Nazi – and party member – Paul Fromm, when the party had done the same. Like Mr. Sloan, the party failed to screen out either Mr. Fromm’s donation or membership application – forgivably, perhaps, as he gave his name as Frederick P. Fromm. But only Mr. Sloan is paying the price for it.

Not that he deserves any better. There are worse things than hypocrisy, and one of them is the party’s willingness to tolerate Mr. Sloan’s presence in caucus as long as it has. If Mr. Sloan is being scapegoated in the present case, he had already earned his ticket out of caucus several times over: for suggesting homosexuality was a choice, for insinuating that Canada’s Chief Public Health Officer, Theresa Tam, was in the pay of the Chinese government, for other public statements that were at best reckless and at worst outright bigoted."

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:06 (five days ago) link

From that article (which was very good indeed):

Is it any wonder that more than 40 per cent of Conservative voters, according to a Leger poll, would have voted for Donald Trump in the recent election? Or that a similar number believe he actually won?

Err, really? That's worse than I thought.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:08 (five days ago) link

I guess it's only 40% of 30% of all Canadian voters, if you want to look at the glass as being 12% full

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:13 (five days ago) link

this is a minor thing but i'm curious: i wonder what happens to sloan's blue check twitter account now, since it's got "cpc" in the name.
does he lose the right to use it?

scanner darkly, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:07 (five days ago) link

Sloan is paying the price for everything he's done wrong, obv.

Inside there's a box and that box has another box within (Sund4r), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:57 (five days ago) link

I'd say he lost California but he was actually a student union president down there. Hunh.

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 21 January 2021 00:01 (four days ago) link

lol sund4r

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Thursday, 21 January 2021 00:21 (four days ago) link

lol

Kim, Thursday, 21 January 2021 00:57 (four days ago) link

It’s not real until he does his time

Guys don’t @ me because I tazed my own balls alright? (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:15 (four days ago) link

kenney big mad

Kenney says if the U.S. administration refuses to discuss Keystone, the Canadian government must impose trade and economic sanctions, he says. "Not doing so would create a dangerous precedent," Kenney says. #ableg

— Janet French (@Jantafrench) January 20, 2021

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:49 (four days ago) link

hard to see any downsides to that plan

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:51 (four days ago) link

Tough guy

Guys don’t @ me because I tazed my own balls alright? (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 21 January 2021 03:00 (four days ago) link

Not sure I completely understand this: https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/mobile/man-freezes-to-death-steps-from-montreal-shelter-after-public-health-makes-beds-off-limits-1.5271305

Why does a curfew mean that homeless shelters need to close? If anything, wouldn't it keep people from being out and violating the curfew if they could be inside a shelter at night?

Inside there's a box and that box has another box within (Sund4r), Thursday, 21 January 2021 03:59 (four days ago) link

Watch your back, pom. You've got some real polyglot competition now:

No matter what language you speak — or in my case try to — all of us need to stay home.

Stay home. Stay safe. Save lives. pic.twitter.com/zy3qeqUA43

— Doug Ford (@fordnation) January 21, 2021

Inside there's a box and that box has another box within (Sund4r), Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:26 (four days ago) link

I had to listen back to the Tamil one a couple of times to work out what words he was even trying to say.

Inside there's a box and that box has another box within (Sund4r), Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:27 (four days ago) link

Hahaha, that's genuinely amazing. No Romanian, though – tsk, tsk.

I know it's all PR, but it saddens me to think that Legault would never so much as consider doing such a video.

pomenitul, Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:35 (four days ago) link

Oh wow, haha

Kim, Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:32 (four days ago) link

Damn, that was quick:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/governor-general-payette-step-down-1.5882675

pomenitul, Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:06 (four days ago) link

At the beginning of her mandate, sources said, Payette also put staff on the spot by quizzing them about outer space — asking them to name all the planets in the solar system, for example, or to state the distance between the sun and the moon.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rideau-hall-governor-general-payette-1.5861952

Inside there's a box and that box has another box within (Sund4r), Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:45 (four days ago) link

she sounds like a real scumbag

Fenners' Pen (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:46 (four days ago) link

The outer space pop quizzes cracked me up ("what? This is how we build morale at CSA!") but, yeah, sounds nasty otherwise.

Inside there's a box and that box has another box within (Sund4r), Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:54 (four days ago) link

That’s a lot like what our 5th grader thinks is good conversation.

Kim, Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:59 (four days ago) link

Heh. Guess Payette never outgrew the little kid who wanted to become an astronaut.

pomenitul, Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:00 (four days ago) link

How many people lost their jobs because of Pluto?

clemenza, Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:02 (four days ago) link

xps Not quick as the same anecdotes were reported in July: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/julie-payette-governor-general-harassment-allegations-1.5657397

Then they decided to do this formal look at it and she resigns the day it's published... it's wild of her to say "Tensions have arisen at Rideau Hall over the past few months and for that, I am sorry."

Wonder if we can get any traction on getting rid of this job. Let's write the queen and inquire?

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 22 January 2021 13:03 (three days ago) link

when prince charles comes in it's time to pull the plug imo

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:59 (three days ago) link

There doesnt seem to be any appetite for republicanism. Charles will be a relatively short reign follower by the popular William

Fenners' Pen (jim in vancouver), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:50 (three days ago) link

Mario Dumont made the point that Payette was basically acting like a queen: https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/01/22/julie-payette-cetait-pire-quon-pensait
which made me recall something Elizabeth Bruenig said about how no one, including avowed monarchists, wants an actual monarchy anymore.

Inside there's a box and that box has another box within (Sund4r), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:56 (three days ago) link

Someone should point that out to those goofs down below, who were, as a friend said, chanting “1776!” while trying to install a king.

Kim, Friday, 22 January 2021 22:29 (three days ago) link

Wait, was an election declared??

I got into politics to make a difference and to build a stronger, cleaner and more inclusive future for our kids and grandkids.

I'm excited to be running again to represent the residents of #OttawaCentre. We have an amazing community and there is a lot more we can do together! pic.twitter.com/w725jJEDnS

— Catherine McKenna (@cathmckenna) January 23, 2021

Inside there's a box and that box has another box within (Sund4r), Saturday, 23 January 2021 19:07 (two days ago) link


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