Worst billionaire to have become even more stupidly wealthy since the start of the pandemic – a poll

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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/dec/19/ten-billionaires-reap-400bn-boost-to-wealth-during-pandemic

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Mark Zuckerberg 19
Elon Musk 18
Jeff Bezos 14
Larry Ellison 3
Larry Page 1
Amancio Ortega 1
Bill Gates 0
Warren Buffett 0
Bernard Arnault 0
Sergey Brin 0


pomenitul, Sunday, 20 December 2020 01:52 (six months ago) link

Two Larrys on this list – clearly a winning name.

pomenitul, Sunday, 20 December 2020 01:53 (six months ago) link

Bezos is probably worse because of his actual wealth, but I hate Musk the most.

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Sunday, 20 December 2020 01:55 (six months ago) link

Going with Zuck because of how much I hate Facebook but I don't think he's the best objective pick here.

pomenitul, Sunday, 20 December 2020 02:12 (six months ago) link

Based on current trends, probably close to zero new cases in US too by end of April

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 19, 2020

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Sunday, 20 December 2020 02:38 (six months ago) link

Musk is almost entirely a conman, and possibly a complete moron, but those getting conned are even more eager to be conned than he is actively manipulating them. Bezos would be pleased to control a plurality of all business on the planet, and a functional slavedriver, but seems to genuinely believe that journalism should still exist. Zuckerberg is actively attempting to destroy humanity's access to information, and to dismantle democracy, and has been appallingly successful at it so far.

huge rant (sic), Sunday, 20 December 2020 02:52 (six months ago) link

f/m/k
musk/gates/zuckerberg

cosmic vision | bleak epiphany | erotic email (map), Sunday, 20 December 2020 03:06 (six months ago) link

Haven't heard of half of these; instinctively voted Musk.

Langdon Alger Stole the Highlights (cryptosicko), Sunday, 20 December 2020 04:02 (six months ago) link

Bezos is probably worse because of his actual wealth, but I hate Musk the most.

― onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z)

milo otm

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Sunday, 20 December 2020 04:12 (six months ago) link

Buffett is a dark horse because what is the point of amassing unimaginable wealth is you’re going to continue living in a fucking Omaha ranch house and drinking your 50-cent can of sody pop with lunch. I have more respect for completely psychotic fountain of youth blood replacement schemes.

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Sunday, 20 December 2020 04:31 (six months ago) link

He’s the one that I’d be least surprised to find out is a hands-on serial killer (as opposed to all of them being serial killers via capitalism).

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Sunday, 20 December 2020 04:35 (six months ago) link

hate them all but bezos has always seemed Most Likely to Emerge as the Anti-Christ and i will forever regret not murdering him when i almost ran into him as he was leaving a bar i frequented in honolulu. i missed my shot :(

davey, Sunday, 20 December 2020 04:59 (six months ago) link

All of the above

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Sunday, 20 December 2020 05:44 (six months ago) link

^^^

Billionaires shouldn't exist.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Sunday, 20 December 2020 10:17 (six months ago) link

Two Larrys on this list – clearly a winning name.

mods pls rename me larcode

||||||||, Sunday, 20 December 2020 10:30 (six months ago) link

christ what a shower. Musk most irritating as a personality but others may have done more harm overrall idk. put them all in a room together with some hungry dogs

Left, Sunday, 20 December 2020 13:50 (six months ago) link

Gates hung out w Epstein more than once. Hard to believe he didn’t get a whiff of what was up.

Zuckerberg, however unwittingly, midwifed MAGA probably as much as Fox.

Bezos/ Amazon embodies everything wrong with this completely fucked late-stage hellscape capitalism. Amazon should most likely be nationalized.

But yeah, I probably hate corporate welfare queen Musk the most as an actual person.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 20 December 2020 14:13 (six months ago) link

Bezos is the single greatest force for evil in the world today.

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 20 December 2020 14:17 (six months ago) link

Voted Zuckerberg because he has gotten wealthy during the pandemic by profiting off of misinformation about the pandemic.

Yes Virginia, there really is a (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 20 December 2020 14:55 (six months ago) link

too many choices

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Sunday, 20 December 2020 19:58 (six months ago) link

The most damaging one (zuckerberg) over the most egregiously annoying one (musk) and the clear biggest prick-by-intent (bezos)

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 December 2020 20:01 (six months ago) link

Bernard Arnault almost gets a free pass from me because his trade (luxury goods) seems to be primarily aimed at scamming other rich fucks.

pomenitul, Sunday, 20 December 2020 20:04 (six months ago) link

i can't decide!!!!!!!!!!!

Karl Malone, Sunday, 20 December 2020 20:19 (six months ago) link

KM, just let your conscience** be your guide

**deems

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Sunday, 20 December 2020 21:51 (six months ago) link

I generally advise this its true (tho i dont get the specific ref) but one would also need to know whether one's conscience is generally a useful guide or not

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 December 2020 22:16 (six months ago) link

Jiminy Cricket

Mark G, Sunday, 20 December 2020 22:56 (six months ago) link

dmac are you suggesting that my conscience is not generally a useful guide? because that is very true! some people can go with their gut. i find that it is better to roll the dice and map the possible results to different options. that's why i've decided to generate a random # between 1-10 and vote for whatever fate decides.

https://i.imgur.com/2osJO2P.png

wow, i rolled a 1! was leaning toward bezos to be honest

Karl Malone, Monday, 21 December 2020 00:14 (six months ago) link

That is just the effect of gravity, his net worth causes most things to lean in slightly towards him

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Monday, 21 December 2020 00:53 (six months ago) link

have you seen the size of his balls

huge rant (sic), Monday, 21 December 2020 01:32 (six months ago) link

Ellison is the real progenitor here, his outfit is behind all these other outfits tbf

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 01:40 (six months ago) link

sometimes the pupil surpasses the master

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, 21 December 2020 01:52 (six months ago) link

Jeff Bezos added $13,000,000,000 to his fortune in a single day during the pandemic. https://t.co/qTeZtqBkD4

— Public Citizen (@Public_Citizen) December 19, 2020

huge rant (sic), Monday, 21 December 2020 07:10 (six months ago) link

Elon Musk is the one I personally hate the most but Zuckerberg has probably done more to accelerate the demise of Western civilization than anyone on the planet

frogbs, Monday, 21 December 2020 17:30 (six months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 00:01 (five months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 00:01 (five months ago) link

Close!

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 00:28 (five months ago) link

Might need a rerun now.

pomenitul, Thursday, 7 January 2021 19:54 (five months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Zuck still the worst imo.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 21:30 (four months ago) link

also the person that replaces Jeff will be worse

Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 21:32 (four months ago) link

i'm sure andy jassy is a sweetheart, looking forward to the new Amazon!

i think we'll probably be hearing a lot more from bezos. he still owns washington post, blue origin, other shit, and will probably be announcing some new thing that fucking blows tomorrow

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 21:34 (four months ago) link

Not being all that informed, I thought this was pretty good:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/feb/03/jeff-bezos-and-the-world-amazon-made

pomenitul, Thursday, 4 February 2021 14:18 (four months ago) link

Why do ppl think Zuck is worse than Bezos? Bezos is responsible for a shit ton of people in dreadfully paid, terrible jobs and destroys small businesses with his tactics.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 4 February 2021 22:55 (four months ago) link

Bezos would be pleased to control a plurality of all business on the planet, and a functional slavedriver, but seems to genuinely believe that journalism should still exist. Zuckerberg is actively attempting to destroy humanity's access to information, and to dismantle democracy, and has been appallingly successful at it so far.

― huge rant (sic), Sunday, December 20, 2020 1:52 PM (one month ago)

shivers me timber (sic), Thursday, 4 February 2021 23:02 (four months ago) link

It's hard to decide for me. Bezos does seem like a megalomaniac who wants to be King of the World - which at least is pretty easy to understand - but Zuckerberg just seems to want to destroy the whole world for some nebulous reason, like the Joker, but without the likeability.

Nhex, Thursday, 4 February 2021 23:21 (four months ago) link

Zuck seems like he’d be a 4Chan incel if he hadn’t gotten lucky.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Friday, 5 February 2021 00:22 (four months ago) link

I'd like to think we have the Trillbillies to thank for this

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Friday, 5 February 2021 00:27 (four months ago) link

were they the originators of KJB?

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 5 February 2021 00:37 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

Jeff Bezos ruins everything. https://t.co/l9N0W3kZ7k pic.twitter.com/8ueuljNZRY

— Hillary Kelly (@HillaryKelly) March 11, 2021

Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 11 March 2021 17:20 (three months ago) link

four weeks pass...

Fuck you, Jeff.

pomenitul, Friday, 9 April 2021 18:36 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

The Secret IRS Files: Trove of Never-Before-Seen Records Reveal How the Wealthiest Avoid Income Tax

"Turns out that many of the ultra wealthy pay NO income taxes for entire years— Soros three times, Bezos and Icahn twice, Musk and Bloomberg once. Bezos one year even claimed a $4000 child credit."

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 22:04 (two weeks ago) link

Buffett being on this list should end any "he's one of us" talk from misguided 99%-ers who like his pseudo-Dem railings against his own kind. in response he said "I still believe the rich should be taxed more", I guess he just doesn't wanna do so voluntarily, eh?

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 23:55 (two weeks ago) link

Soros had to avoid taxes due to all of the fees he owed antifa

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 23:55 (two weeks ago) link

The IRS records show that the wealthiest can — perfectly legally — pay income taxes that are only a tiny fraction of the hundreds of millions, if not billions, their fortunes grow each year.

That's because in the US we do not tax wealth, we tax income. If your stock portfolio goes up $100 billion (unrealized gains), that is not considered income. The hit comes when you cash out, though I'm sure these dudes know how to get out of a lot of that, too.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 00:22 (two weeks ago) link

Yes, that is the premise of the article.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 01:52 (two weeks ago) link

But not the headline (these super rich people don't pay taxes!) that's making the rounds.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 01:54 (two weeks ago) link

Like f'ing duh...they got to get something for those politicians they buy up after all they are 'smart business people'.

With interest rates being kept near zero forever, it's pretty much a license to print money if you got money.

earlnash, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 01:57 (two weeks ago) link

When you have that amount of insane net worth in equity you effectively never need to sell, and you get taxed on the tiny yield of dividends, which is an tinier percentage of your wealth.

That tiny amount of capital gains can probably be written off with business losses, but I don't know much about that - I imagine there are many loopholes to make your effective tax rate 0%.

Buffett paying the least makes sense in this light - from what I understand of his philosophy he likely is a less active trader than other billionaires, so even less capital gains from sales are taxable.

Nhex, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 02:07 (two weeks ago) link

Ah yeah, they go into it later in the article - Berkshire doesn't even give out dividends at all. I like this quick animated explainer on "Buy, Borrow, Die" too.

Nhex, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 02:19 (two weeks ago) link

Hey, Warren Buffett and Bill Gates... What can you do to leapfrog over these other assholes as the worst people on this list? I know! Build nuclear reactors!

https://interestingengineering.com/bill-gates-and-warren-buffett-team-up-for-1-billion-next-gen-nuclear-reactor

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 05:03 (two weeks ago) link


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