How To with John Wilson

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hell yes

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Sunday, 8 November 2020 03:42 (two weeks ago) link

It's a pretty spectacular and accomplished show right out the gate but the many vimeos at that "JohnsMovies" links show this is a formula he's been perfecting for awhile.

Four Seasons Total Manscaping (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 November 2020 03:55 (two weeks ago) link

I've watched the first two episodes twice and new gags jump out at me, like when he spends a fwe seconds honing in on the "One Leg, 24 Crimes" (paraphrasing) headline though we're meant to be paying attention to the one that relates to the actual episode story

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Sunday, 8 November 2020 04:01 (two weeks ago) link

absolutely thought that author was john malkovich and now its got me wondering if kyle mclachlan was ever there at all

TRANCED INTO RADIOACTIVE PUREE (Will M.), Sunday, 8 November 2020 21:24 (two weeks ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/A6tjXmh.jpg

TRANCED INTO RADIOACTIVE PUREE (Will M.), Sunday, 8 November 2020 21:53 (two weeks ago) link

Simon OTM, this is just so dense with jokes

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Sunday, 8 November 2020 22:05 (two weeks ago) link

third episode was my favorite so far

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 November 2020 23:16 (two weeks ago) link

hard to talk about this show without spoiling one of
its main appeals, which is the sort of unconscious way wilson wanders deeper into or adjacent to his subjects, i.e. the mandela effect stuff in ep 3

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 November 2020 23:17 (two weeks ago) link

I'm a fan. The part that he gets removed from the MTV audience in Cancun cracked me up.

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Monday, 9 November 2020 01:51 (two weeks ago) link

I don't think I've ever seen a show structured quite like this one, you never have any clue what's gonna happen from one minute to the next

frogbs, Monday, 9 November 2020 02:13 (two weeks ago) link

thanks for starting this thread, first two episodes were really special. it’s gotten to the point where whenever he takes an interest in a person you know it’s gonna be very worth it. kind of a whole show made out of those nathan moments where he would let his subject ramble into transcendent ridiculousness

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Monday, 9 November 2020 02:29 (two weeks ago) link

Wow at the ending of the third episode. I feel like he intentionally started with two straightforward episodes before diving into the true weirdness. I wonder if that will be more the vein of future episodes.

the colour out of space (is the place) (PBKR), Monday, 9 November 2020 12:46 (two weeks ago) link

I'm fascinated by the Mandala Effect, I don't think there's anything to it but I love that there's this bonkers conspiracy theory that isn't rooted in something political or nefarious

favorite part was the line "the worse your memory was, the more these people liked you"

frogbs, Monday, 9 November 2020 14:08 (two weeks ago) link

I liked that it was a seemingly benign/not racist conspiracy community, though I'm sure if you dig into the real circles you'll find some unsavory ties to other uh movements

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Monday, 9 November 2020 14:10 (two weeks ago) link

i just love that their conclusion is “we’re interdimensional travelers” and not “human brains process and store information very similarly”

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 9 November 2020 14:18 (two weeks ago) link

"this guy claimed he invented Pokemon"

frogbs, Monday, 9 November 2020 14:31 (two weeks ago) link

I squealed with joy when I realized we were going to get a glimpse into his archiving process in this episode

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Monday, 9 November 2020 14:37 (two weeks ago) link

that journal seemed way too elaborate to just be a prop for the show

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 05:01 (two weeks ago) link

it looked unhealthy! but i'm glad he's finding ways to make it productive.

Four Seasons Total Manscaping (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 15:41 (two weeks ago) link

I'm fascinated by the Mandala Effect

i could've sworn "Mandala" was spelled "Mandela," must be a timeline warp situation.

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 16:35 (two weeks ago) link

SAME

Four Seasons Total Manscaping (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 16:39 (two weeks ago) link

First two episodes we've seen have been great. What a weird show.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 16:41 (two weeks ago) link

The ending of ep.3 with the stickers is really good. One of these Mandala effects on me is an interview with Joaquin Pheonix on a red carpet where he asks the interviewer if he has a large frog crawling out of his hair and, honest to god, I could not find evidence of that video for years but I googled it a few minutes before making this post and found it right away, but just a 20-second snippet rather than the full thing. I guess the full video had been suppressed by his agents or whatever, as the clip I watched has only 50,000 or so views rather than the millions the original clip would have had. I also swear on my life that there were a couple of years that you couldn't find the footage of the Fabio Goose incident as well to the point that I started seriously considering that I had imagined it.

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 01:31 (two weeks ago) link

I love how deeply public access TV this show is, but with HBO's travel budget

I have no idea how it got on HBO but I gotta thank Nathan Fielder and Adult Swim's influence

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 03:21 (two weeks ago) link

someone please seed the torrents for S01E02 and S01E03 already

alphred, lord xyzzzz__ (||||||||), Thursday, 12 November 2020 14:13 (two weeks ago) link

uhhh theres footage of the fabio goose incident??

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Thursday, 12 November 2020 14:55 (two weeks ago) link

I managed to get S01E02 but am on my 3rd attempt at E03. drag.
E02 was quite interesting.
Hadn't really been aware of that before.
Dpers seem a lot of central London has intermittent stuff up every time I'm there too

Stevolende, Thursday, 12 November 2020 15:03 (two weeks ago) link

not the moment of impact if that's what you're looking for.

Four Seasons Total Manscaping (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 November 2020 15:56 (two weeks ago) link

just learned this season is only six episodes :(

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Saturday, 14 November 2020 15:03 (two weeks ago) link

it's fine if they're all this quality

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 14 November 2020 15:14 (two weeks ago) link

It's impressive to me that he even put three of these together, considering how many months or years must have spent getting all this footage, and the cataloging sorting etc.

early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 14 November 2020 15:20 (two weeks ago) link

i'll take episode four over most television

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 14 November 2020 15:46 (two weeks ago) link

what a journey

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 14 November 2020 15:46 (two weeks ago) link

it’s like what if adam curtis except better

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 14 November 2020 16:46 (two weeks ago) link

It's impressive to me that he even put three of these together, considering how many months or years must have spent getting all this footage, and the cataloging sorting etc.

― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, November 14, 2020 10:20 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yea this. ep 4 i finally had the galaxy brain dawning of how these are prob assembled

johnny crunch, Saturday, 14 November 2020 19:06 (two weeks ago) link

t/s TLC Tugger vs TC Tuggers

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Saturday, 14 November 2020 22:05 (two weeks ago) link

"but they still let the pigs go whoever they want"

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Saturday, 14 November 2020 22:24 (two weeks ago) link

that shot was so brilliant

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 14 November 2020 23:24 (two weeks ago) link

how in the world did he get that

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 14 November 2020 23:25 (two weeks ago) link

let me tell you I hooted and hollered at that shot

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Sunday, 15 November 2020 00:06 (one week ago) link

Holy shit at that episode. I liked the last one a little better, but this was wild.

the colour out of space (is the place) (PBKR), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:16 (one week ago) link

how in the world did he get that

I'm assuming when you are filming nearly all of your waking hours in NYC you are going to get some things.

the colour out of space (is the place) (PBKR), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:18 (one week ago) link

one of the most explosively funny and deeply disturbing episodes of tv, i've ever seen. more please.

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Monday, 16 November 2020 18:09 (one week ago) link

t/s TLC Tugger vs TC Tuggers

right?? i have so many questions

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 16 November 2020 18:12 (one week ago) link

The guy must have a few years of video files stored with pretty intense metadata. There's definitely more than one moment showing "Before and after" shots from the same location that look like they're least a year apart from each other.

billstevejim, Monday, 16 November 2020 18:25 (one week ago) link

yeah that occurred to me with the shot of the lawyer's office and its "great view"

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Monday, 16 November 2020 18:32 (one week ago) link

will never think of parasite in the same light again

||||||||, Monday, 16 November 2020 19:15 (one week ago) link

no one:
absolutely no one:
the daughter of the foreskin guy in the other room trying desperately to stay out of camera range:
foreskin guy: who wants grapefruit seltzer

Four Seasons Total Manscaping (forksclovetofu), Monday, 16 November 2020 21:04 (one week ago) link

haha that moment was excellent, that poor girl

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Monday, 16 November 2020 21:16 (one week ago) link

there's like two dozen videos on the TLCTugger YouTube page, including ten "song parodies," a Downfall meme, an alex jones clip and two "Andrew Yang for a Better Wang" clips

Four Seasons Total Manscaping (forksclovetofu), Monday, 16 November 2020 21:31 (one week ago) link

i watched and enjoyed the first episode of this but it is very much "take three dashes of nathan fielder and add one dash of joe pera, blend and serve." i like both of those things but the vibe seems uncomfortably close. the visual jokes are the one unique element.

na (NA), Thursday, 19 November 2020 19:14 (one week ago) link

I don't know how intentional the similarities to Joe Pera are but yeah I thought the same

frogbs, Thursday, 19 November 2020 19:20 (one week ago) link

Those three definitely stand apart in my mind as a new wave of a certain kind of comedic voice, really the only three TV comedy people I'm interested in at this point tbh.

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Thursday, 19 November 2020 19:57 (one week ago) link

yeah that plus On Cinema

frogbs, Thursday, 19 November 2020 20:26 (one week ago) link

Fielder and Wilson have some overlap, Pera and On Cinema are their own things entirely imho

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Thursday, 19 November 2020 23:51 (one week ago) link

I don't know if I'm reading too much into the past few posts but in case anyone thinks Wilson is ripping off Pera, Wilson's been doing this for almost a decade now (link to his non-HBO material in the OP)

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 20 November 2020 01:52 (one week ago) link

think it's more that this is the first era where a comedian like that could land a TV show on a major network

frogbs, Friday, 20 November 2020 01:55 (one week ago) link

The Mandela people reminded me of the characters in slacker and waking life

calstars, Friday, 20 November 2020 02:34 (one week ago) link

the part where he uses a "memory trick" to recall his shopping list was brilliant

frogbs, Friday, 20 November 2020 03:07 (one week ago) link

I don't know that I'd necessarily comfortably slot Wilson into "comedy," feels to me more borne out of a Les Blank path if anything. Think there's a lot of genuine humanity and lack of judgement in what he's doing, certainly more so than Fielder. I think the Joe Pera maybe holds on grounds of kindness

Deverly (Bangelo), Friday, 20 November 2020 05:21 (one week ago) link

Not that it's not funny, it's incredibly funny, but I'd doubt that's his primary intent

Deverly (Bangelo), Friday, 20 November 2020 05:22 (one week ago) link

xp yeah the more freewheeling Linklater seems like a good touchstone too

Deverly (Bangelo), Friday, 20 November 2020 05:26 (one week ago) link

Damn this is good

Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Friday, 20 November 2020 08:42 (one week ago) link

This has brought my household great joy in a time that's low on joy

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 20 November 2020 12:15 (one week ago) link

i don't think anyone is ripping anyone off. and i agree "how to" is much more fielder than pera. i just see similarities in the halting speech patterns representing intense social awkwardness and the narration explaining things to the viewer.

na (NA), Friday, 20 November 2020 14:44 (one week ago) link

i feel like fielder, wilson and pera all seem linked to me bc they all have a comedic persona thats based on some level of naivete, where the comedy comes not necessarily from making fun of things per se but from just sort of looking at the world with fresh eyes

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Friday, 20 November 2020 14:49 (one week ago) link

nathan for you is obv darker than the other two, but as has been often pointed out a lot of the time the comedy comes from people being nicer than we expect them to be, being too nice or overly accommodating of nathans horrible actions. theyre not necessarily an antidote to cynicism or whatever, but i feel like theres definitely a relationship to irony and cynicism in these shows that feels very different from a lot of other comedy in recent years

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Friday, 20 November 2020 14:54 (one week ago) link

Something about last night's ep felt like it was more influenced by Nathan Fielder than the past few eps

Anyway loved it, loved the income tax neon sign, loved him showing up to the Long Island referee meeting in the wrong sport referee uniform, loved the shot of the little kid eating his own snot as John was talking about organic food

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Saturday, 21 November 2020 18:16 (one week ago) link

I was dying laughing at pretty much every second of the ref meeting sequence, incredible stuff.

I had very vivid feelings bringing back a lot of childhood memories of being in rooms like that and groups of adults like that, having to tag along with my dad to some boring meeting or potluck or something, having the general idea of "adults" demystified for me, learning that for the most part they were usually not interesting or cool or even very nice, pretty much the same as the kids I already knew in my elementary school class, just much larger. Amazing stuff. They even stole his whistle.

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 14:58 (three days ago) link

covering your furniture hasa new meaning or is that new.
Finally getting to see last week's one or the week before's

Stevolende, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 15:00 (three days ago) link

okay the thing he does where he records someone wincing and looking distraught and then does a voiceover claiming they're upset because the check was split unfairly is really funny to me

one of my favorite parts was the "2 guys...3 guys....4 guys...two three four" bit, mostly because that's a joke you'd never see on any other show

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 15:22 (three days ago) link

I died at “a reffle”

Heez, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 16:13 (three days ago) link

one of my favorite parts was the "2 guys...3 guys....4 guys...two three four" bit, mostly because that's a joke you'd never see on any other show

i was really hoping it was going to somehow lead up to "three cousins, a deli slicer, and a buncha bagels" in coney island

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBt5PAeWsAAMYbl.jpg

the portentous pepper (govern yourself accordingly), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 16:30 (three days ago) link

a reffle

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 November 2020 16:14 (two days ago) link

one of the reasons this couldn't work in the UK (most places in the west?) is that you have to get a waiver signed to broadcast someone's image on TV or at least you mostly do. I do find myself wondering about the logistics/legality and even the morality of some of the shots playing alongside the narration. I know I'd feel pretty humiliated and annoyed if I was, for example, the clearly exasperated guy in the baseball cap giving his friends the side-eye at the restaurant table while John's talking about resentments w/r/t splitting the bill.

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Friday, 27 November 2020 23:43 (yesterday) link

I think all those people signed releases! Check that interview link upthread.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 November 2020 23:44 (yesterday) link

really? I find that almost impossible to believe. I'll check the interview out, thanks.

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Friday, 27 November 2020 23:51 (yesterday) link

The How to Split the Bill episode makes me think about ILX a lot (and not just the tipping/splitting threads)

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Friday, 27 November 2020 23:54 (yesterday) link

If I’m shooting people on the street doing something funny, either I or a field producer will go up to that person and tell them they were in a shot for a documentary show about New York, then we get a release. Pretty much everyone says OK, which was surprising to me—people respond surprisingly well to the news they’ve been filmed as long as you level with them and tell them exactly what the show is, like “Oh, I’m making an episode about small talk and you guys were having small talk on the street.” It’s innocuous when you tell them what it is, because people’s imaginations can run wild when you tell them they’ve been filmed. You have to put them at ease and let them know exactly what context you’re planning on putting it in. I’m confident that it’s to serve a larger, weird joke, usually on myself.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 November 2020 00:16 (thirteen hours ago) link

Feeling a lot of feelings after that finale but mostly just thinking about that slide whistle and how I really hope he gets another season

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Saturday, 28 November 2020 07:03 (six hours ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCNsx_NyNOU

cajunsunday, Saturday, 28 November 2020 07:59 (five hours ago) link

finale was one of the best episodes of television I've ever seen, what a masterful season

Clay, Saturday, 28 November 2020 12:29 (one hour ago) link

otm - i love how just as it was getting crushingly heavy at the end, he pulled it all back with the perfectly stupid "SHRIMP NIBBLERS ARE BACK" shot

the portentous pepper (govern yourself accordingly), Saturday, 28 November 2020 12:41 (one hour ago) link


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