Marvel Cinematic Universe, Phase 4 & Beyond (and a chance to change your vote)

Looks like they are getting plenty of pushback on this, good. Wishful thinking, but I'd love to see some bad PR for them for this bullshit.

Just imagine if famous creative freelancers, distgruntled audiences, and prominent elements of the trade press called out Marvel for their business practices. Such changes we would see!

sic do we just need to post a disclaimer before every single post itt that we agree with you and that Marvel and Disney have done an absolutely terrible job of paying creators for their work? no one is arguing that point with you, but you keep hammering on it anyway as if we are all viciously defending the corporate behemoth on that point. I don't understand who you are raging at by this point because, afaict, no one posting itt works for Marvel or Disney.

... YET

lol

Also, the Hawkeye trailer looks FANTASTIC and I am pretty sure they're showing Clint with a hearing aid in an early scene, which makes me inordinately happy as close fidelity to the Fraction/Aja run with MCU caveats is precisely what I wanted this show to be.

have done an absolutely terrible job of paying creators for their work? no one is arguing that point with you, but you keep hammering on it anyway

I wasn’t thinking or saying anything about rates of pay, but since you bring it up, I’m betting Yoshida is vastly overcompensated

jesus christ you are so fucking tedious.

poster x: posts nineteen times about wishing for Marvel to change one business practice worth $257,601,141 in ten days, for his kid’s sake

poster y: lightly notes once that 50 years of labour actions, lawsuits, advocacy journalism, editorials, huge petitions from major authors & fans, direct appeals from retailers at trade conferences and to distributors, &c., have tended to have consistent levels of success wrt Marvel changing their business practices

poster x: jesus christ you are so fucking tedious

"lightly notes", "once" jfc dude

For someone who seems to think Disney and Marvel are so evil, you suddenly seem to really care deeply about making sure they maximize their investment for their 2021 slate.

I think the 45 day release window is a fair enough compromise.
I really love theaters and want them to survive, and this is already bad for them, but at least the bulk of money for most mainstream films comes in the first month anyway. Nowadays you only have to wait about 90 days for physical media and often less for VOD.

Can't blame you for being annoyed about the pandemic stuff - I've managed to go to the theater the summer often only by going to sparsely attended showings at odd times.

It's definitely not a terrible compromise and I get it, it's just a switch after being able to pay $20 for early access for other ones.

How quickly we forget how they handled "Mulan," which was $30 on top of the Disney+ subscription fee.

Oh right, that was $30. I mean, we paid it, still cheaper than three movie tickets and parking, even if we forgo snacks completely (which never happens).

Also, the Hawkeye trailer looks FANTASTIC and I am pretty sure they're showing Clint with a hearing aid in an early scene, which makes me inordinately happy as close fidelity to the Fraction/Aja run with MCU caveats is precisely what I wanted this show to be.

It just looked like a generic action trailer to me, but I guess that’s how they’re marketing it. Hoping the actual series will have some of the comics’ offbeat charm, and not just a dog and other plot elements (but again, Kate’s characterization looks really promising).

Not sure if it was discussed itt or elsewhere and I'm covering old ground, but I read a couple different articles that implied this series is going to lean really heavily on the Fraction/Aja run, so I'm hoping it's more than a few nods.

Yeah, that's what I've heard as well. My son started counting down from 45 last Friday, so according to him it's 39 days now... lol

― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, September 9, 2021 3:50 PM

Your son needs to reset his countdown :(

"Disney Day", November 12th (which will be release date + 70 days)

—Jungle Cruise will become available for free on the service to subs

—the new Disney+ Original movie Home Sweet Home Alone, a reimagining of the popular holiday franchise will debut

–an all-new original series of shorts from Walt Disney Animation Studios called Olaf Presents, which sees Frozen’s snowman retelling several classic Disney tales as only he can.

—domestic Disney+ streaming debut of fan favorite shorts from Walt Disney Animation Studios including Frozen Fever, Oscar-winning shorts Feast and Paperman, Oscar-nominated Mickey Mouse short, Get A Horse! and more. There’s also the animated short film Ciao Alberto from Pixar which features characters from their feature pic Luca.

–A new short from The Simpsons that pays tribute to Disney+’s marquee brands

— first five episodes from season 2 of The World According to Jeff Goldblum from National Geographic

—A special celebrating the origins and legacy of Star Wars’ legendary bounty hunter, Boba Fett

–A special celebrating the Marvel Cinematic Universe on Disney+ with an exciting look towards the future.

—Dopesick, an original series starring Michael Keaton, which will be released in international markets as part of the Star general entertainment content offering.

One of these things...

can't help but find it amusing that they're bringing the Simpsons back to its early '90s cash-in heyday with these blatant spots

The full voice work on nearly everyone (including Rachel House!) on this week's What If..? really made it, I thought - after the last two, it was great to see just a fun episode.

Love to pay tribute to marquee brands

Shang-Chi was a lot of fun, had way too much CGI lacquered over everything, and more karaoke jokes than I was expecting.

I really liked it, tony leung forever

Disney & ScarJo have settled.

What If...? took a turn and I'm 100% into it

Yeah that was my favorite episode yet, dug having more for Jeffrey Wright to do.

Thought it might have been the finale but there's one more next week

Couldn't tell if it was setting up a cliffhanger or not, esp how this episode was hinted at at the very end of the Thor one.

Transitive property fan glee in the Venom 2 credits with Tom Holland shown, along with JJJ/Simmons, ergo Venom is part of the MCU..

My kid loves the idea of all the Marvel stuff but isn't really into watching anything. He always wants detailed recaps of the What If...? episodes, keeps asking to see pictures of Ultron and Whiplash and Venom, is fascinated by the idea of antiheros, and makes me read from his 5 Minute Marvel Stories book every night.

Last night he asked me if Red Skull just has a red skull, or if his whole body is like a red skeleton, and searching for 'red skull without clothes' didn't really give him a satisfactory answer.

I was a little annoyed by the end of the Thor episode until I saw this week's, at which point I went "... OHHHHHHHHHHHH okay that's rad"

^^^ yes!

Also the AV Club reviews for this are somewhat unhinged

Boy you aren't kidding, made the mistake of reading the one from this week. The reviewer realllly doesn't like the show "cheating" with the "rules".

really excited for venom 2 on the basis of venom being the best and gayest modern superhero movie

is fascinated by the idea of antiheroes

My kid too (I think via Venom) — “is Deadpool an antihero?” (sees picture of DC guy Lobo) “is he an antihero?”

AV is right about the voice acting at least - only Cumberbatch and Jones this week (well, and Renner) didn't help.

tfw you have absolutely no defense

Disney & ScarJo have settled.

― juristic person (morrisp), Friday, October 1, 2021 4:19 AM (fifteen hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Shang-Chi was so much fun you guys

Jeffrey Wright is fantastic and the last episode was a lot of fun - first instance of Kirby dots in the MCU?

There’s something pleasingly Shatneresque about Wright’s voiceover work

that's usually how he sounds! he was similarly avuncular in Source Code

So apparently this season of What If..? was supposed to be 10 episodes long but ended up 9 because Covid and the missing episode would have explained how Gamora turns up in the finale

Yeah, definitely seemed from context that would've been an entire extra episode. Also, they ended up referencing almost every other episode in S1, except maybe the "Who Killed the Avengers?" ep - though maybe the Loki from that one showed up for a second?

Liked they all picked up after the respective ends of their episodes, like Thor fighting Ultron, Killmonger about to be apprehended, etc.

Funny how this was a better adaptation of the Age of Ultron series than the movie was (which only took the title m/l)

And - bittersweet, we got way more Chadwick Boseman in this series than I was expecting.

https://gizmodo.com/report-wandavisions-kathryn-hahn-is-getting-her-own-ag-1847817612

Really enjoyed that finale and how all the storylines dovetailed together - it was easily the best of the Disney+ finales so far. I don't watch many cartoons, but it seemed like the action sequences were really well designed and edited - a lot more involving and easy-to-follow than the movie fights.

There was a kind of joyful glibness (but with stakes!) that reminded me of Buffy, but minus the smarm

Yeah, definitely seemed from context that would've been an entire extra episode.

I wouldn't have minded seeing it, but on the other hand if they had to cut one I'm not surprised that they cut "What if this character did the thing that they'd explicitly been trying to do from their first appearance?"

I like that the last coda matched the first episode, Hayley Atwell was a gift to this show - as of course was Chris Hemsworth.

The missing episode is going to be part of Season 2 now and is set on Sakaar and will play as a comedy (like the Thor one)