"Will you shut up, man?" US Politics October 2020

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I know Gillum won the county in 2018.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 October 2020 11:56 (three years ago) link

Fingers crossed and all that, but what's giving me some hope is America's dogged contrarianism. The only thing we hate more than losers is winners, and there's nothing more satisfying than taking a winner down. Especially sore winners, especially winners that barely won.

Those Texas numbers ... again, who knows, but I wonder, looking back on all of this, what was the earliest point that anyone thought Texas was a real Democratic possibility? I seem to recall even back in 2015 that Texas was unique among its peers for lack of enthusiasm for Trump. Either way, certainly underscores the reality that local races may be gerrymandered to hell, but the presidential race is all about turnout, running up those numbers.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 31 October 2020 12:19 (three years ago) link

Early voting numbers in the morning at 89.5 million. Things slow down over the weekend and this last weekend means a number of states have stopped early voting in the run up to Tuesday, but we’ll be at 90 million soon enough and all predictions are 100 million by Tuesday morning is pretty well likely.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 31 October 2020 13:23 (three years ago) link

wait, was trump visiting vegas? imo he didn’t have a prayer in clark county of all places


No but Adelson is there and he was screaming about getting money from him for the campaign so I’m sure homages were in order. And he did want to make a last Vegas appearance but health officials and the government said “Yeah no” so he did one across the Arizona border the other day and complained about it.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 31 October 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link

ICYMI: Seven Pennsylvania counties are now officially waiting to count mail ballots until Nov. 4, per @cbszak.

That's a big deal for PA results. Why?

These seven counties *currently* have received 141,977 ballots. Trump won PA by 44,292 votes in 2016.

— Cara Korte (@CaraKorte) October 31, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 31 October 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link

Pennsylvania is going to be an end of week regardless, that's not new news.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 31 October 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link

mostly GOP counties, no? or counties won by Trump?

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 October 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link

It's not news, but what makes it newsworthy is

Oddly enough, Trump won 6 of these 7 counties pretty handily in 2016.

Having 6 Trump counties in a swing state without results on election night could make Trump STFU about wanting results that night — and reduce the chances of him taking it to SCOTUS to try and stop counting. https://t.co/28eVQ1U7KO

— Angry Staffer (@AngrierWHStaff) October 31, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 31 October 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link

Also good to set expectations in advance. If they are deliberately waiting until Wednesday to count votes, then it lessens the chance that it's seen as a mysterious delay.

jaymc, Saturday, 31 October 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link

ahhh ok that makes sense

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 31 October 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link

Texas Texas Texas -- useful thread:

Morning update: Texas reporting 9,669,246 votes cast at the close of early voting. That's 57% of registered voters and 700,020 more votes than were cast in Texas in *all of 2016.*

— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) October 31, 2020

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 31 October 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link

and I helped!

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Saturday, 31 October 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

man that's a lot of shy Trump voters!

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 31 October 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

Also good to set expectations in advance. If they are deliberately waiting until Wednesday to count votes, then it lessens the chance that it's seen as a mysterious delay.

― jaymc, Saturday, October 31, 2020 9:48 AM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Actually, forget what I said. I missed that these are specifically mail ballots, and now knowing that they're GOP counties makes me doubt their intentions.

jaymc, Saturday, 31 October 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link

Ned Raggett at 8:23 31 Oct 20

Early voting numbers in the morning at 89.5 million. Things slow down over the weekend and this last weekend means a number of states have stopped early voting in the run up to Tuesday, but we’ll be at 90 million soon enough and all predictions are 100 million by Tuesday morning is pretty well likely.


I go for a walk by my local polling place with my dog every morning, been generally busy, line out the door a bit

this morning it was crazy, pizza food truck there, volunteers handing out beverages, line all the way down the block and around the corner

assuming this is a reaction to the ruling about mail ballots but I think it's safe to say numbers in MN will be huge this weekend

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 31 October 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link

Post-election, I want to see interview after interview with Biden voters expressing their searing, bilious hatred of Donald Trump. The Chuck Todds of the world are gonna want reconciliation and national unity; don't give it to them. If Trump loses, it's gonna be by a historic margin, and the significance of that revulsion has to be preserved and indeed honored.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 31 October 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link

Trump will actually get negative EVs

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 31 October 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

A New Mexico note:

Today is the last day of in-person early voting, and there are still some mail ballots outstanding. NM is at 93.2% of its 2016 total vote. I did not have NM going over 2016 on my bingo card

— Michael McDonald (@ElectProject) October 31, 2020

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 31 October 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link

sounds like they're takin' it to the streets

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 31 October 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link

It's almost as if people have hated this guy so much for so long they're coming out in droves to (hopefully) vote against him. Weird. I guess that's what happens when there is literally only one way people can remove a president from office and it only happens after a 4 year wait.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 31 October 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link

Yah mo burn this motherfucker

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Saturday, 31 October 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link

guessing the calculation of Wisconsin's absentee ballots was indeed not right as Michael's page now reflects far fewer ballots having been sent out, and ergo, far fewer outstanding. problem is they include their early in-person absentee votes in the same total.

so 14% ballots outstanding from those requested, and that's more like 196,000 outstanding than the 700,000 that was being bandied about.

also I have been told by those in Wi that anybody who requests an absentee can also vote in person as a backup, much like FL, so we won't know if the people who failed to return their ballots just went and voted in person early or on Tuesday or what. may not be that many 'unreturned' at all.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link

and naturally there's always a degree every year of people who are sent ballots, never return them, and don't vote at all, but i don't know what that typical number is

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link

So what are we doing tomorrow? Starting a new thread like always? I think we should have a standalone thread for election results regardless.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link

Jeo Binden for presidetn

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

Trump is going to get dunked on so hard. I can’t wait!!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link

if this turnout means what it looks like it does, i think we'll know the result on tuesday

treeship., Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

Get in loser, we’re going voting. pic.twitter.com/vGT7oMCi7Q

— Katie Porter (@katieporteroc) October 31, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

The official White House story is that this massive turnout is a measure of the president's incredible popularity. Most popular president ever!

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

if this turnout means what it looks like it does, i think we'll know the result on tuesday


Taps the sign.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

i really want him to lose texas

treeship., Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link

my heart would feel so full if he lost texas as well as georgia and all the upper midwest states that put him over the top last time. (in this scenario, he obviously also loses florida and pennsylvania).

treeship., Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link

If trump loses Texas (or Georgia or NC) then it’s not good news for him in Florida, but Florida is a bit of a weird one. It’s demographically unusual and it’s elections don’t correlate very closely with anywhere else.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link

i got an email today titled "Have you ever had your lunch stolen at work?" and I thought it was another Jaime Harrison email until I realized it was a Reddit subscription email

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link

In echoes of the Axelrod "we'll find out who's bluffing on election day" line from 2012, note that a top official at the NRSC says bluntly that data is showing Trump losing AZ in this @pkcapitol @seungminkim piece https://t.co/uJYpC7Y97p

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) October 31, 2020

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:39 (three years ago) link

One for UMS upthread:

The final GOTV push with @Ilhan pic.twitter.com/MNoSXvuU4T

— Dave Weigel, Re-Animator (@daveweigel) October 31, 2020

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link

my heart would feel so full if he lost texas as well as georgia and all the upper midwest states that put him over the top last time. (in this scenario, he obviously also loses florida and pennsylvania).

My fantasy is having Texas and Florida in the bag on Tuesday night so that Pennsylvania doesn't even matter.

Anaïs Ninja (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link

Further:

pic.twitter.com/vNAGnCV6Sq

— Dave Weigel, Re-Animator (@daveweigel) October 31, 2020

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

I think if he has Florida he can probably not worry about Texas or a prolonged wait for Pennsylvania.

Alba, Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

Based on me being pretty conservative with this simulator.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2020/oct/30/build-your-own-us-election-result-plot-a-win-for-biden-or-trump

Alba, Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

I think if he has Florida he can probably not worry about Texas or a prolonged wait for Pennsylvania.


It’s not over if biden wins Florida early but I promise I’ll stop posting caveats on everyone’s optimistic posts in this thread if he does.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link

I'm confident Biden will win the election but not Florida.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link

Biden up 290-0, Trump says "he's not mathematically eliminated"

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:51 (three years ago) link

aw 😎❤️ omar

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link

My fantasy is having Texas and Florida in the bag on Tuesday night so that Pennsylvania doesn't even matter.


If biden not only wins Texas but wins it by a margin so large they can call it on election night then he’s going win the popular vote by like 15 points.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link

fine by me

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

i kinda want Trump to lose so big that he actually screams at his followers for being pussies and they still thank him for it

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

lol just went to look at recent AZ polls on RCP and all but one of them were from right wing pollsters

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link

obv not saying this is happening

but a blue Texas in the future is pretty much an extinction level event for the GOP right?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link

it's interesting because up until 1980, Texas was predominately a blue state, and hasn't been since, but in today's polarized elections when you can typically throw states like CA, NY, and TX into respective columns before polls close, it's not a great sign.

that being said, I firmly feel like the next candidate they drag out could simply be barely right of Marco Rubio and suddenly win Texas easily.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 31 October 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link


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