Asterix : Search and Destroy

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I CANNOT BELIEVE that there isn't an Asterix thread on ILE. Lots which mention it, but nothing devoted enough.

So Search: Britain, Spain, Corsica
Destroy: Secret Weapon (in fact most of the later solo Uderzo stuff, especially All At Sea)

Also, isn't it a shame that a lot of the old ones are out of print? I can't get hold of Legionary (yes ebay), and it's the only one I'm missing.

Sam (chirombo), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Legionary is excellent, as is Britain. There's a Goth one too isn't there? It's ages since I read any Asterix, I should catch up.

chris (chris), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Asterix was cool. I only have Asterix and the Magic Carpet now.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

you know when I was a kid I thought the fat guy was Asterix....

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Timothy Spall should play Obelix in the movies (as does the picture editor of Sight and Sound).

Graham (graham), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Search - nearly all the early books. Give up around Asterix and Son, which is rub.

DESTROY! ALL! POXY! POORLY-ANIMATED! FEATURES! Damn I hate them.

However, I'm cheering myself up by thinking about the fancy flats in Mansions of the Gods. Real-estate shenanigins satire!

Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Got about...fifteen? Britain, Spain and the Goths all rule, the Olympic Games one is a laugh, the Legionary just nutty! My favorite when I was in sixth grade, where I first encountered them, was Cleopatra.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Legionary is a classic, definitely. I know I had a copy somewhere - it's probably still in my parents house. I'll try and find it.

Corsica is also great - maybe the best one that falls outside the basic life-in-the-village-and-forest remit.

Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the reason Legionary is so classic (in my memory because I don't have it grumble grumble) is because there is an Egyptian in it called Ptenisnet.

Sam (chirombo), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Mansions of the gods = k-ace!! that fat woman going into the village to get food was superb.

chris (chris), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i love love love all the asterix stories (although it's true that some of them are less consistent than others). i remember loving them as a kid, and then having lots of fun with the great sense of humor and social critique when i was older.
i had all the books up until "asterix's son". is there any new ones? i should go get them back from my mother's house...

joan vich (joan vich), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Is Legionary really out of print? I have Legionary in Latin, which was bought fairly recently. I still think Obelix's lovelorn "(gemitus altus)... gemitus altior... *GEMITUS ALTISSIMUS*" should be used in Latin lessons about comparatives and superlatives everywhere. But then when my Latin class laughed for a week at Molesworth's gerunds the teacher just looked entirely bemused so don't ask me.

(Classic, obviously. Can't think what to search. My favourites used to be In Britain and And Cleopatra, I think. Anyone else think their holidays abroad are not complete unless they bring back a foreign Asterix or Lucky Luke?)

New ones: yes, a few, but not nearly as good as the older ones so it's probably not worth bothering. Try http://www.asterix.tm.fr/english/quest-reponse/uder_11.htm for a list. I haven't read any since Magic Carpet.

Rebecca (reb), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i still have a few of the books - some hardback, some paperback - i liked Asterix & Cleopatra, Asterix in Belgium and any one which features them in Rome (Legionary!)...the later Asterix & The Magic Carpet was actually quite good too

what has always mystfied me is whether Asterix is funnier in English or in French? it must be quite different surely - there were a lot of jokes in the books i read perhaps more suited to British readers in the translation...how were the characters names different? e.g. what was Vitalstatistix name in the original French books? just the French variant of this? does that make as much sense?

blueski, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Ptenisnet

DAN PERRY TO THREAD! It sounds like a slang term for a Joe Namath netted slingshot brief. In America they named him 'Ptightnet'...and I do love the sequence how everyone complains about the army food except for the British guy, who loves it. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

was it better than Tintin is the question...it was a lot more light-hearted and fun thats for sure whereas Tintin was often a bit sombre and disturbing, and Tintin himself was usually an irritating pipsqueak, i had tremendous sympathy for Captain Haddock...certainly tho the Tintin animated series was better than any Asterix one if only just for the legendary title announcement

blueski, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

It sounds like a slang term for a Joe Namath netted slingshot brief.

See, my presence on this thread isn't necessary.

The only Asterix comics I have are in German. I should dig them up because they were hella funny.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Has anyone seen the films with Gerard Depardieu as Obelix?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I own copies of "Asterix the Gladiator" in eleven languages, and used to actually know how to say "GET THAT PARSLEY OUT OF YOUR EARS!!!" in eleven languages.

Legionary is indeed probably the funniest, Mansions of the Gods probably the best story. But there are scenes in Gladiator that have never left me--for some reason the whole recurring business with the gladiators playing "yes, no, black or white" in the arena has never stopped being howlingly funny.

The English translations by Bell and Hockridge are legendarily good--the originals have a ton of untranslatable French wordplay, and Bell and Hockridge very wisely substituted a ton of untranslatable English wordplay. (The little dog Dogmatix's name in French, for instance, is Idefix, and as good as Panoramix (French) is as a name for a druid, Getafix (English) is much funnier...)

Douglas, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

The only two names from the french versions that I remember are Panoramix (Getafix) and Abraracourcix (Vitalstatistix). What the hell "Abraracourcix" means, I have no idea.

lol p xx, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

as i am still waiting for the washing machine mender guy, i shall now get all my asterix books down from their high shelf

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Y'all are forgetting about the dopest joint of them all- Asterix In Switzerland! "Anything to declare?" "I'm hungry" "What you got in there?" "A great big hole" HAHAHAHA CLASSIK! (even better than Wilde's reaction)

I stuck with Uderzo for a long, long time, but the last one was just such total crap that I couldn't even bear to read it.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

in spanish, the jokes are very well translated as well. very witty.
one of my favourite names is that of the guy in jerusalem (i think it was): absalondethé :-)

joan vich (joan vich), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Simple: search all the ones written by Rene Goscinny. After his death, they're not urgently needed. I once published an article about the translations - the writer felt there was lots added, much of it good, some of it idiotic.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

being of French background, I am a huge Asterix fan by proxy. In fact Legionnaire was the first one I ever got. I think perhaps Cleopatra is my fave book of them all but they're all ace and beat the shit out of boring old Tintin.

Long live the Gauls!


...actually yes - Tintin disturbed me as a kid - I was scared for about a year to have my bed covers any lower than my chin when I slept incase some ULTRA-SCAREY voodoo dude came and blew a poison madness dart in my neck.

dog latin, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link

and is it me or did the Magic Carpet not make any sense at all. My memory's hazy but I swear they went to some weird My-Little-Pony world for absolutely no reason at all half way through it...

dog latin, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, an Asterix thread! I am fairly positive I have every book although everything past the Magic Carpet is pretty bad.

Search: Legionary, Goths, Roman Agent, Obelix and Co., Black Gold
Destroy: Gaul, Golden Sickle, Actress (truly awful), basically the earliest stuff and the latest stuff

I also enjoy Tintin quite a bit, but I've only read like half of them.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

grrr i realised i put them all away in stupid BOXES!!

grrr bcz now i haf to get them OUT!!

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

b-but Goscinny had written another 'and the Magic Carpet'! One of the Iznogoud albums has, as far as I can recall (I'm at work, so can't check), the title 'Iznogoud and the Magic Carpet'! What's next, 'Lucky Luke and Cleopatra'?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 13:22 (seventeen years ago) link

dog latin, I think you are thinking of All At Sea. Magic Carpet I thought wasn't bad by Uderzo standards.

(when did Goscinny die/retire?)

Sam (chirombo), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 14:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Roman Agent

Oh YES by Toutatis.

Sam (chirombo), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 14:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Caesar's gift was rather good too iirc, it was a laurel wreath wasn't it?

chris (chris), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Nonononono do not confuse Ceasar's Gift with Laurel Wreath (although I always do). Ceaser's Gift was the village.

(I suddenly have the ph34r that I am wrong....)

Sam (chirombo), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 14:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Obelix and Co=Classic.


Obelix=Classic.


Discovering the humour of all the characters names when you're older=classic.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Goscinny died in 1977 aged 51. I don't know what of but I think it was quite sudden.

Morris (coauthor and artist of Lucky Luke) died a year or two ago, as well, and I didn't even find out until the last Goscinny-mentioning thread on ILX.

(Are the Morris-only Lucky Lukes noticeably any less sharp and funny than the ones with Goscinny? If only they'd do the full series in English then I would know; as it is, reading them in languages I barely understand, I can make out no more than the plot, and sometimes not even that. Sigh...)

Rebecca (reb), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I only found out about Goscinny's death about two years ago, and it was quite shocking finding out he died before I was even born, since I grew up reading the books. Blame Uderzo for still putting Goscinny's name on the books to this day.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Are the Morris-only Lucky Lukes noticeably any less sharp and funny than the ones with Goscinny?

A bit, but the drop in quality isn't nearly as extreme as with Asterix.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

five years pass...

http://www.ring.net/coni/obelix01.jpg

THIS DUDE IS MY LEADER

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 27 July 2008 13:15 (eleven years ago) link

The writing in the later Goscinny ones (Obelix &Co, Belgium) is of a ridiculously high quality, I think the guy had many years of great stories still in him. It's a real pity.

chap, Sunday, 27 July 2008 13:44 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

What's this about Uderzo allowing the strip to continue after his death, Goscinny's daughter allowing it but Uderzo's own daughter calling him out on the decision?

Bring Back The West End South Australian Open (King Boy Pato), Thursday, 15 January 2009 12:20 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, and ORGIES! WE WANT ORGIIIIES!

Bring Back The West End South Australian Open (King Boy Pato), Thursday, 15 January 2009 12:22 (eleven years ago) link

"OLD HAIRY HANDS"

Bring Back The West End South Australian Open (King Boy Pato), Thursday, 15 January 2009 12:24 (eleven years ago) link

For years I thought an orgy just involved eating shitloads of food because of Asterix.

chap, Thursday, 15 January 2009 12:24 (eleven years ago) link

As did I. That was an explanation I'd rather not have had from my dad.

more private than a bar stool (Upt0eleven), Thursday, 15 January 2009 12:37 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

http://bit.ly/oL6TyJ

THIRTY YEARS TOO LATE

sex, doughnuts & rock 'n' roll (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 11:57 (eight years ago) link

Now Asterix is a popular French brand and vehicle for French actors with weak bladders, any replacement will drive it further into the ground anyway.

sex, doughnuts & rock 'n' roll (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 11:58 (eight years ago) link

I stick by this:

The writing in the later Goscinny ones (Obelix &Co, Belgium) is of a ridiculously high quality, I think the guy had many years of great stories still in him. It's a real pity.

― chap, domingo 27 de julio de 2008 13:44 (3 years ago) Bookmark

His last two were Obelix & Co and Belgium, both of which are so so good.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 00:10 (eight years ago) link

when I was little, my parents gave me all the Asterix comics and all the Tintin comics, in German!

That's how I first learned German, when I was about 7 years old...I really struggled to understand those comics

they were really funny once I finally decoded them

geeta, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 00:19 (eight years ago) link

Tintin has to be read in the original. The English translations of Asterix tend to be pretty good and even have jokes that aren't in the French versions.

psychedelicatessen (seandalai), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 00:23 (eight years ago) link

I read this (as I'm sure others have) as "Asterisk: Search and Destroy." I was going to say destroy Roger Maris's (even though it never actually existed), and after that I'm stuck. Carry on.

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 00:26 (eight years ago) link

Tintin has to be read in the original. The English translations of Asterix tend to be pretty good and even have jokes that aren't in the French versions.

― psychedelicatessen (seandalai), miércoles 28 de septiembre de 2011 0:23 (17 hours ago) Bookmark

I have only read both in English, by I would´ve thought it would be the other way round - Tintin´s humour is more character-based and visual, Asterix´s more verbal. Also Tintin transcends comedy more often.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 17:53 (eight years ago) link

wtf does transcends comedy mean?

Number None, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 17:56 (eight years ago) link

The Orgy! Me too! It looked so good - long tables, massive plump, er, birds!

paulhw, Thursday, 29 September 2011 00:15 (eight years ago) link

four years pass...

I picked up the latest title, Asterix & The Missing Scroll and enjoyed it a lot, I'm really happy that I can get back on the bus for the first time since the eighties.

Didier Conrad does a painstaking job on the artwork and the story, while a little heavy on modern day parallels (Wikileaks!), is the best since before Goscinny died, same with the first reboot title Asterix & The Picts.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:03 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Enjoying the Missing Scroll so far. Surprised to see more big-lipped African caricatures tho, and not just existing characters like the pirate.

Should probably stop reading it as I bought it for a present...

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 4 December 2015 10:29 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

The last three (since the reboot) have all been very strong, it bodes well.

I have slowly been picking up the hardback first editions as a treat to myself, so many of my happy childhood memories are wrapped up in Asterix stories, I re-read Switzerland recently and it might be my all-time favourite, it's so beautifully executed and funny as hell, also weird, decadent Romans and their orgies, vomiting and green faced pancake makeup wearing ladies.

There's an Asterix exhibition at the Jewish Museum in London for the next few months, I must go.

MaresNest, Sunday, 10 June 2018 20:01 (one year ago) link

Ah just discovered Uderzo is not writing them anymore, that's good because he was downright terrible. The Asterix canon stopped at Belgium to me, and I have read up until the Secret Weapon (feels weird to write the title in english), the Falling Sky looked so insulted to the spirit of Goscinny I abandoned the whole thing. Might give the Ferri ones a try then.

Are you familiar with the Sempé/Goscinny's classic Le Petit Nicolas?

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 10 June 2018 21:11 (one year ago) link

Sadly I haven't ever read Le Petit Nicolas as I cannot read French, I really wish I did because there's a ton of bande dessinée that I am completely dying to read, things like Michel Vaillant. Not long ago I was staying in Paris at a little hotel smack in the middle of passage Jouffroy called Hotel Chopin and there is a great, atmospheric little shop right there, Le Petit Roi, with the most fantastic selection of bande dessinée.

I would recommend those three new releases from Ferri/Conrad.

I jumped off at around Asterix & Son, which was at the time and I was 11, Belgium is probably the last great one, but I've been a bit nerdy and have been picking up first issues of the later ones for completeness' sake, plus they're cheap, I got 5 first issue hardbacks of later titles for £4 each. I will read them sometime I guess.
good

Going back through them has been fun, I have a copy of Big Fight coming which I recall not liking very much at all as a 9 year old, I bet it's good, some of the others I wasn't so keen on have been really enjoyable when I revisited, Roman Agent, The Soothsayer.

MaresNest, Sunday, 10 June 2018 22:33 (one year ago) link

Sadly I haven't ever read Le Petit Nicolas as I cannot read French, I really wish I did because there's a ton of bande dessinée that I am completely dying to read,

Le petit Nicolas is mostly not BD and four or five volumes were available in English when I was a kid (the '80s)

we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Monday, 11 June 2018 03:38 (one year ago) link

Had no idea Asterix had a new writer, will have to check those out since yall recommend them. Feel like there's still a lot of potential with those characters, but most of the Uderzo stories were awful

Vinnie, Monday, 11 June 2018 04:35 (one year ago) link

Phaidon Press in the UK have reissued translations of all the Nicolas books:

https://www.phaidon.com/nicholas/

There are also two recent French film adaptations(which I haven't seen), both available as Region 2 DVDs - Petit Nicolas and Nicolas on Holiday

Ward Fowler, Monday, 11 June 2018 05:49 (one year ago) link

i was raised on a strict diet of Asterix books, which isn't true as i was actually raised on a strict diet of food which is why i'm alive today - but nevertheless, Asterix taught me to read in English and French, and also draw to some extent as I was obsessed with the artwork.

I think I acquired the books through random means - some of them were French hardbacks that belonged at my grandparents' house, others I'd get out the library, and I think I devoured pretty much all that I could. I don't think I had much of a filter or background knowledge as to which were part of the original series and which were Uderzo-only, but I definitely remember the Switzerland one being amazing and I'm looking forward to re-reading it.

My mum got me Asterix and the Picts for Christmas the other year. To be honest, I didn't even finish it. The plot was a bit dull and it just didn't feel like it had the same Goscinny spark. The most ridiculous one is the Magic Carpet one. Appalling really and a total shark jump.

Obelix & Co is definitely one of the best I reckon.

XXP - Thanks for the link Ward, that looks ace!

MaresNest, Monday, 11 June 2018 09:07 (one year ago) link

There are also two recent French film adaptations(which I haven't seen), both available as Region 2 DVDs - Petit Nicolas and Nicolas on Holiday

I haven't seen these; are they adaptations of the original Goscinny/Sempé stories?

There's been a recent(ish) TV series as well which I've watched a couple of in French and German on Youtube. I believe the plots are mostly new stories written by Goscinny's daughter and done in an unnervingly luminous bulbous-headed CGI style. They seem a bit didactic and nowhere near as charming or hilarious as the original books but NB my German is bad and my French is worse so they may just be getting lost in translation.

I had a much-loved 80s paperback of a Nicolas book in English as a kid - "Nicholas and the Gang Again", I think? tadpole/camera/football team - and will def look for some of the Phaidon reprints. Looks like they're translated by Anthea Bell so I have high hopes.

Might have to get to That London for the Asterix/Goscinny exhibition too. Thanks, MaresNest!

a passing spacecadet, Monday, 11 June 2018 09:28 (one year ago) link

The most ridiculous one is the Magic Carpet one.

nuh-uh, the most ridiculous one is The Falling Sky, I'm p. sure. don't read that one, anyone

although the fact that I read Magic Carpet aged 8 and Falling Sky aged 38 might not help

a passing spacecadet, Monday, 11 June 2018 09:30 (one year ago) link

are they adaptations of the original Goscinny/Sempé stories?

I believe so, APS - here's the wiki link to the first movie (which was released in 2009, so not quite as 'recent' as I thought):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Nicholas

Ward Fowler, Monday, 11 June 2018 09:35 (one year ago) link

xp don't think i've read the falling sky. I seem to remember unicorns being in the Magic Carpet (!?)

Falling Sky has flying saucers and an alien with superpowers. It's pretty terrible and really didn't need to exist - in fact I feel bad even mentioning it, as it would be much better if we could all pretend it didn't. Not sure if it's better or worse that the innocuous title just made me think "ah, those Gauls, always worrying about the sky falling on their heads" rather than giving a clue to the true horrors within.

I don't remember much about the Magic Carpet tbh. I remember going to buy it with my birthday book token when it was new out and I do remember it being slightly disappointing even then but have blanked out any unicorns. It's probably the only Asterix book I got as a child which I've never felt the need to re-read, but I probably still have it somewhere, so if I feel brave I'll jog my memory...

a passing spacecadet, Monday, 11 June 2018 09:58 (one year ago) link

Would be interested to know everybody's favourites.

MaresNest, Monday, 11 June 2018 10:18 (one year ago) link

No unicorns in Magic Carpet to my recollection - it's an Arabian Nights riff.

My fave as a kid was Legionary.

chap, Monday, 11 June 2018 10:27 (one year ago) link

Peak period for me would be roughly 68-72, and especially

Asterix and the Laurel Wreath (my number one favourite)
Asterix and the Roman Agent
Asterix and the Chieftain's Shield
Asterix and the Cauldron
Asterix in Switzerland

Ward Fowler, Monday, 11 June 2018 10:36 (one year ago) link

The Nicolas stories had nice English paperbacks in the 80s; they've been reissued as fancy Phaidon hardcovers, which in the usual Phaidon style are pretty to look at but annoying to hold and read. Either way, they're great - quite low-key, and excellent translations as usual by Anthea Bell. They're closer in spirit to Emil & The Detectives than Asterix.

The Goscinny stories are incredibly consistent - almost every book was a favourite at one point or another in my childhood. and it's amazing how different the stories are, given that the main characters never change from book to book. Probably easier to list the ones I like less: Great Crossing, Asterix the Gaul, Belgium - but that's about it.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 11 June 2018 11:07 (one year ago) link

I suppose Chieftain's Shield is the exception to the rule about the characters never changing - it's a weirdly deep character dive into Vitalstatix - I always felt quite sad, finishing the book, when the character returns to usual self.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 11 June 2018 11:11 (one year ago) link

I saw the first Petit Nicolas movie when it came out and remember it as pretty close to the source material. Those books are great - just as chaotic as Asterix in their way. Stuff I remember includes the kids strategizing to attack older kids by kicking them in the shins and the one where the rich kid shows up on picture taking day dressed as an astronaut.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 11 June 2018 12:34 (one year ago) link

Laurel Wreath is a great one, it's interesting when the tone deviates slightly for a whole book and LW is almost a little salty by comparison. The in medias res style beginning, Vitalstatistix's rather aggressive hubris in the face of his Brother In Law's flexing and the weird mood that Asterix and Obelix are in on the first page, not to mention the drunken Zigackly! and Ferpectly!

MaresNest, Monday, 11 June 2018 18:28 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I noticed a little while ago that the Wiki entry for Laurel Wreath claims

This is by far the most adult-oriented of all the Asterix stories. It includes drunkenness, human slavery, debauchery, particularly graphic violence, androgyny, and instances of humour requiring (for Asterix) an unusually sophisticated knowledge of art and history to fully understand it. There is an implicit acknowledgement of this in that Dogmatix (a favourite with younger readers) makes only a token (2 panel) appearance, and the lettering in the original version of this album uses a style more cursive and difficult to read than usual, again discouraging younger readers (the updated version released in 2004 uses the same lettering style as all the other Asterix stories).

But I like it as much for all the family stuff, which again seems to cut a little deeper than in other Asterix albums - the conflict between the chief and his brother-in-law (the dinner party sequence at the beginning might just be Goscinny/Uderzo's finest moment), the alienated father and son reunited by Asterix and Obelix.

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 06:12 (one year ago) link

No food on earth tastes as delicious as the grilled boars in Asterix look.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 09:53 (one year ago) link

*Scronch* *Scronch* *Scronch*

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 10:05 (one year ago) link

the conflict between the chief and his brother-in-law (the dinner party sequence at the beginning might just be Goscinny/Uderzo's finest moment)

ZIGACKLY!

chap, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 10:16 (one year ago) link

thanks to this thread i've just laid down for the Asterix Omnibus that includes Laurel Wreath, Switzerland, Mansion of the Gods, plus I bought Chieftain's Shield separately. Can't wait to revisit these

My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 10:58 (one year ago) link

That's a great run. I'll second Asterix the Legionary as a personal favorite

Vinnie, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 16:08 (one year ago) link

XP - Yeah that is a good selection, those are some of my very favourites.

Got a first edition hardback of Big Fight in the post from eBay today, was never sure about it though, I remember really not liking the transformation of Getafix, as a kid.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:42 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

Was down in London for a few days, and managed to get to the Goscinny exhibition at the Jewish Museum in Camden - highly recommended to anyone with an interest in post-war European humour comics. The exhibition is smallish, but very nicely presented and contains a surprising number of original pages. I had never seen an actual page from an Asterix album before and here there are five, including the first page of Laurel Wreath; there are also pages from Iznogoud, Ompa-pa, a western strip by the legendary Jijé, and some really gorgeous Nicholas originals - I took a shaky snap of this one:

http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa362/Andrew_Littlefield/P1030584_zpsjlhbmbs4.jpg

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 8 July 2018 11:06 (one year ago) link

I must get to see this soon!

So I was knocking around on eBay yesterday, I've been trying to complete a set of hardback first editions and I'm looking at ...The Gaul, so expensive for what isn't really a very good story, but I found out that there are officially sanctioned translations of a few of the stories into Scots slang, so I purchased 'Asterix The Gallus' and also TinTin's 'The Derk Isle' it's going to be pretty weird but interesting.

MaresNest, Monday, 16 July 2018 14:46 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

RIP. My school French teacher always said her translations were funnier than the originals.

chap, Thursday, 18 October 2018 13:33 (one year ago) link

Nooooooooooooooooooo

MaresNest, Thursday, 18 October 2018 19:48 (one year ago) link

Didn't realise she'd translated Kafka! Definitely gonna pick that up. Some of the old translations are dire!

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 18 October 2018 20:42 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

This new one that just came out looks gorgeous but the story is ever so slight, sadly.

Maresn3st, Monday, 28 October 2019 12:51 (five months ago) link

I have recently watched the latest Asterix animation movie (the secret of the magic potion).
It's nicely done and manages to recreate the spirit/humour of the original books.

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 28 October 2019 14:22 (five months ago) link

but the story is ever so slight, sadly.

Has there been one since, generously, 1981 of which you wouldn’t say this?

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:42 (five months ago) link

You're right, Black Gold was the last decent one until the 2013 comeback of sorts with The Picts.

The three since then, I found to be really enjoyable, but this new one is lagging far behind, which is a shame because the art is absolutely on point.

Translation/interpretation must be so difficult and that's when I realised how vital Bell & Hockridge were to the process.

Maresn3st, Monday, 28 October 2019 20:00 (five months ago) link

four months pass...

RIP Albert Uderzo (to be fair, I didnt even realize he was still alive)

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 09:13 (two weeks ago) link

aw RIP

and I didn't post here to say RIP Anthea Bell, so that too

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 09:53 (two weeks ago) link

Oh no! But what an incredible legacy.

I read an Asterix book for the first time in years recently, Asterix and the Cauldron. It’s not one of the best - although the marketplace scene is a classic (the “BOOOOOOOAAAARSSSS” bit) (and the avant-garde theatre troupe) (and other bits, probably).

Uderzo’s drawings of Obelix are incredible throughout, though - it’s amazing how much facial expression he gets out of a character who doesn’t have a mouth 90% of the time.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 10:03 (two weeks ago) link

Wow. Love that <3

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 11:55 (two weeks ago) link

Mr Roy Oddling (what a name) is the Pete Best of the Asterix story here, I guess

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 11:58 (two weeks ago) link

"it’s amazing how much facial expression he gets out of a character who doesn’t have a mouth 90% of the time."

ahah. never thought of it that way !

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:18 (two weeks ago) link


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