have you quit the labour party yet?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V6N4elMVX4

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 16:17 (three months ago) link

This is all very funny but how the factionalism lines run remains somewhat opaque and people I have seen online implying they can read the tealeaves fluently are annoying

plax (ico), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 21:31 (three months ago) link

it feels less like faction and more like jockeying for position at this point but yeah people like that are always annoying

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 21:39 (three months ago) link

I would like to clarify that Labour did not suspend @KateOsamor for antisemitic remarks, it suspended her for saying Gaza should be remembered as a genocide on Holocaust Memorial Day. I apologise to Ms Osamor for the error. https://t.co/43dJnT93Kh

— Aletha Adu (@alethaadu) February 14, 2024

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 23:11 (three months ago) link

I am grateful that @BBCNews has broadcast this retraction, correction and apology. Other print journalists have accepted their errors and done the same. 1/2.m https://t.co/PjUc7fOihp pic.twitter.com/KJw0meMw5M

— Andy McDonald MP (@AndyMcDonaldMP) February 14, 2024

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 23:12 (three months ago) link

The fact that no leftwing mps have been caught in this weeks crossfire is extremely annoying to Akehurst and co, so they are now briefing this kind of shit:

The Times suggesting 9 MPs have Starmer "worried" because they are critics of Israel ( not "antisemitic" despite the hints): We are about to watch a whole load more war crimes in Gaza. The Times is suggesting getting rid of witnesses who might complain https://t.co/gzlTA6FjXC pic.twitter.com/KQ8bxhvXfG

— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) February 14, 2024

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 23:13 (three months ago) link

I think Aletha Adu might be a jerk…

steely flan (suzy), Thursday, 15 February 2024 01:35 (three months ago) link

It struck me that this paragraph from a Guardian article could be about literally any policy area.

Labour has not clarified if it would roll out such measures in government, if the Conservatives fail to do so. But Lucy Powell, the shadow Commons leader, said “the government should stop dragging their feet and do so without delay”

AlanSmithee, Saturday, 17 February 2024 11:56 (three months ago) link

Yep put it on their tombstone

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 17 February 2024 12:03 (three months ago) link

I'm hoping that getting an NHS dentist (and not one that is 40 miles away) is not going be such an impossibility when the Tories are ditched. That's literally the only thing I can think of that MIGHT improve by the slightest modicum under a Labour govt. And even so I'm still highly doubtful. Even if a very good NHS dentist policy was unveiled by Starmer when the GE is here, you can't really trust what such a bad actor/serial liar says.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 17 February 2024 12:51 (three months ago) link

i met an actual Kiethite genocide denier last night

strangely he was a weird little weasel

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 February 2024 13:01 (three months ago) link

I hardly ever see them in the wild, all irl ppl I talk to are in full agreement that he's a slippery and untrustworthy tory wanker. Maybe when they go online they go full Kiether, but are too deeply embarrassed to do it in public!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 17 February 2024 13:18 (three months ago) link

this was some probable student twat bending people's ears in the beer garden, i said my piece and stomped off to another pub

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 February 2024 13:47 (three months ago) link

the full briefcase ticket, i was kind of amazed cos i thought these cunts were a figment of my Twitter imagination

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 February 2024 13:51 (three months ago) link

it's sad when the youth are corrupted with right-wing brain worms during their formative years

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 17 February 2024 13:55 (three months ago) link

being comfortably middle class is a helluva drug

just remembered the point where i snapped and piled in was when he told some lass she couldn't be working class if she had a mortgage

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 February 2024 13:58 (three months ago) link

what a wanker!

there should be some law that prohibits young middle-class reactionaries from attending university. I can put up with annoying students as long as they have embraced radical leftism.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 17 February 2024 14:01 (three months ago) link

That’s a rather American definition of middle-classness!

steely flan (suzy), Saturday, 17 February 2024 14:28 (three months ago) link

i mean what is a Blairite but a demented West Wing fan?

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 February 2024 14:39 (three months ago) link

in contrast, one ex-student I was talking to was a really excellent guy. He was a postgrad who was doing a Morrisons delivery job. He got quite emotional talking about the end of Corbynism and said it brought on a period of depression. I thought at the time that it must have hit younger ppl much harder than it did no-hope old bastards like me, with my best years well behind me etc.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 17 February 2024 15:04 (three months ago) link

this fucking guy, what's going on in there?

Russian bot-farms hard at work in British politics this morning... pic.twitter.com/jyJXLHTb0h

— Paul Mason (@paulmasonnews) March 1, 2024

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 1 March 2024 14:29 (two months ago) link

Roger Daltrey eh

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 1 March 2024 14:36 (two months ago) link

out of my brain in Ukraine

glumdalclitch, Friday, 1 March 2024 14:48 (two months ago) link

the Mason noggin has no room for a brain, just Putin and Corbyn living in there, rent free.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 1 March 2024 14:53 (two months ago) link

strategically speaking there isn't anything in the next UK GE result that would interest Putin anyway. Whatever the result there will be a lickspittle Atlanticist in no.10, completely subservient to the Pentagon.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 1 March 2024 15:07 (two months ago) link

the irony is the balloon looking for bots and useful idiots that aren't there, is also the useful idiot

anvil, Friday, 1 March 2024 17:06 (two months ago) link

Paul Mason is the finest comic creation of this decade

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 March 2024 17:21 (two months ago) link

it's quite chilling really and it's impossible to think that there could be any positive outcomes for ppl with health conditions/lifelong disabilities/serious mental health issues, considering the fucking ghoul doing the speech. Has there ever been a progressive disabled benefits overhaul with the ultimate aim of cutting the numbers of claimants. Nope, all attempts at this have been awful and ruined or even ended multitudes of lives, and even failed to reduce the overall cost of disabled benefits in the Tories case. Fuck these people.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 4 March 2024 18:44 (two months ago) link

I'm going to put a "Post any Labour Campaign leaflets here, please" sign over my garden waste burner on the front path to spare me having to be rude to any nice Labour doorstep canvassers come the GE.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 4 March 2024 18:51 (two months ago) link

I was almost disappointed when I thought Kendall had said something reasonable, but it was a quote from someone from Mind. Phew! she hasn't lost *it*!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 4 March 2024 18:57 (two months ago) link

i don't believe this is just rhetoric for the right wing press, which is the usual excuse that the addicts who just can't wean themselves off Labour will give

but even if it was "just rhetoric" what kind of callous shithead would you have to be to threaten the threadbare existing security of some of the most marginalised and anxious people in the country?

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 March 2024 20:07 (two months ago) link

It's a lot of "get on with it / sort yourself out / there's nothing wrong with you" from people with the unconscious privilege of not having to expend vast amounts of psychic energy just to hold it together. Which describes increasing amounts of people nowadays!

help me I am in hull (Matt #2), Monday, 4 March 2024 20:11 (two months ago) link

It's fucking horrific

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 4 March 2024 20:19 (two months ago) link

wonder what percentage of jobs she thinks are 'good work' ? p sure her percentage is a lot higher than mine.

oscar bravo, Monday, 4 March 2024 21:27 (two months ago) link

Reeves and Kendall have clearly been itching to implement their Labour version of austerity since like 2011,; imagine their frustration and internal anguish when Miliband and then Corbyn rejected that; Kendall's gnashing of teeth at her 4.5% in 2015; they nursed their secret vendettas and avid desires to socially murder poor and unlucky members of the British public for over a decade, and finally they find themselves closer to the goal, but at almost the worst, most unpropitious time for austerity and benefit hardmanning, when the public is clearly set against it, when even the media is starting to snark about it, when the economy absolutely will not take it, and the party are 25 points up so there's 0 strategic need for it. We are dealing with a personal psychopathy of individuals here, as Reeves' grim and inapposite anecdote about balancing books at the kitchen table illustrates, but they are also neoliberal revenge against the postwar welfare state made flesh.

glumdalclitch, Monday, 4 March 2024 22:47 (two months ago) link

Workfare returns?

steely flan (suzy), Monday, 4 March 2024 23:34 (two months ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/mar/08/momentum-considers-accepting-members-from-outside-the-labour-party

Insiders say a shift in the group’s membership model will make it a “powerful force” and will ensure its financial sustainability and relevance if Keir Starmer becomes prime minister.

Momentum currently requires supporters to be members of Labour – a rule that is having a knock-on effect on its funding as thousands of leftwingers have deserted the party under Starmer.

wasn't this idea floated shortly after Corbyn stepped down, and there were suggestions that Momentum would be immediately be proscribed if they tried it?

soref, Friday, 8 March 2024 19:01 (two months ago) link

Momentum have been fortunate not to have been proscribed anyway, and seemingly only because they've done fuck all since 2019.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 8 March 2024 19:05 (two months ago) link

If the motion is passed Momentum would hold the same membership criteria as the leftwing thinktank the Fabian Society, which is still deemed closely associated with the Labour party and has influenced Labour policy.

apparently you don't have to be in the Labour party to join the Fabians, but if you're a member of a party that contests elections against Labour party you can join as an 'associate member' without voting rights. Their website also says that 'around 80%' of Fabian members are also in the Labour party.

soref, Friday, 8 March 2024 19:23 (two months ago) link

you can *only* join as an 'associate member'

soref, Friday, 8 March 2024 19:24 (two months ago) link

the only effective pressure groups on the Labour Party these days are bet365, private healthcare lobbyists, big business donors and various billionaires etc. If anybody truly wants to change the party they have to explain why why nobody should vote Labour because there isn't a popular mandate for austerity and they are fucking garbage. Momentum won't do that, so basically they are absolutely without a reason to exist - other than just ambling on doing nothing.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 8 March 2024 19:36 (two months ago) link

I'm just trying to process how stupid or disingenuous you'd have to be to call the Fabians left wing

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 March 2024 19:52 (two months ago) link

Momentum has been a busted flush since 2019 at the latest if I'm generous

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 March 2024 19:54 (two months ago) link

Did anyone else get the begging email from Labour that is fundraising off the back of the racism faced by Diane Abbott, without even once mentioning her by name?

You can respond to it, so I did:

Not a penny from me or anyone I know in Holborn and St Pancras (where I live) until the whip is restored to the Diane Abbott, the victim of this racism, along with an apology. She apologised to you for her poorly expressed letter; how sad it is that it’s taken the whole Hester scandal and the Speaker’s refusal to call her at PMQs to illustrate to the general public that deep within that letter, she may have had a point.

steely flan (suzy), Thursday, 14 March 2024 08:40 (two months ago) link

nice

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 14 March 2024 08:44 (two months ago) link

yeah it's disgraceful all right

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 14 March 2024 09:13 (two months ago) link

Cunts.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 March 2024 09:15 (two months ago) link

JP tweeting up a storm over this when she made her name as a new MP by slagging off Diane frequently hasn’t gone unnoticed

Journalist Robert Peston and Labour MP Jess Philips having a good laugh at someone impersonating Diane Abbott. Racism is not the preserve of any one political party https://t.co/mGmv44zS1U

— Diane Abbott MP (@HackneyAbbott) March 13, 2024

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 14 March 2024 09:17 (two months ago) link


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