The way we live now - how will covid-19 change us?

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I was thinking about things that will either fall out of use or become more popular or common over the next period.

Cash - as in, paper money. When (if?) stuff comes back, this will have the effect of shifting a lot of people to accept card payments too.

Phone calls - I used to use the phone a lot, then dropped off as everyone else did, and am now back using it. Why? Less effort than a video call, good to hear other people’s voices.

Co-streaming type services - I don’t know a better way of putting this. As well as playing online with friends, we will sometimes shareplay, where one of us has a game on and we can talk while playing. It’s useful for giving people a look at games they might be interested in, you can swap over control so they can play. It’s the nearest thing I can think of to playing games with my siblings at home and probably why I like it so much. Also - various film streaming services and the like.

Hairdressers - can you even do this adequately with social distancing? Asking for me, as I deeply regret not getting my hair cut last week.

Obviously the impacts are far reaching and go way beyond these points, but I was thinking of smaller things that will either fall out of usage or become very difficult to do, whereas we might find more use for some things than we did recently.

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 19:37 (three weeks ago) link

I dont' know about these small things but I'm more interested in the large scale changes that could happen. How can the homeless shelter in place when they have no shelter? Will we see widespread deaths in those communities? The same with refugee populations in Greece, Turkey and elsewhere; I forsee the potential for catastrophic loss of life in these areas. Will this event make humanity more human? Or more selfish?

akm, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 19:47 (three weeks ago) link

Will we see the institution of some kind of public option for health care in the US even if Trump wins re-election? Expansion of the safety net? That's being floated right now but how long will it go on?

akm, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 19:48 (three weeks ago) link

Working in general. I think remote work is going to become more of the norm for office workers than it currently is; more people will get used to videoconferencing as a regular activity, especially. This will be great if for no other reason than the sheer amount of pollution it will eliminate.

Conservatives will not seek any meaningful expansion of the safety net for citizens.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 20:07 (three weeks ago) link

1895-2020, birthed by capitalism + technological innovation, ended by capitalism + technological innovation. pic.twitter.com/ynnxz5vyB4

— Peter Labuza (@labuzamovies) March 16, 2020

coronoshebettadontvirus (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 20:10 (three weeks ago) link

Working in general. I think remote work is going to become more of the norm for office workers than it currently is

it would be nice if this could go some way to evening out the ridiculous geographical variation in house prices/rents

(mostly wishful thinking, but maybe a tiny effect)

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 20:21 (three weeks ago) link

agreed about remote work

a lot of companies are gonna have people working remotely for 2-3 months and will inevitably find that it's not so disruptive or bad and is not in fact akin to a vacation day

frogbs, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 20:24 (three weeks ago) link

nightlife is going to take a long time to come back.

Yerac, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 20:26 (three weeks ago) link

remote work is gonna really fuck universities in the long run

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 20:36 (three weeks ago) link

maybe food is going to get a bit more geared to the essentials? less artisinal/bourgie

like, fewer people are gonna be cheerfully paying $8.50 Australian (as I do a few times a week) for a loaf soy and linseed sourdough - and all those businesses are gonna be feeling the pinch a bit as a result

and subsequently food is gonna start feeling really 1970s for a while

longer term maybe local/small scale producers are gonna make a comeback though? as part of the turn away from globalisation this will be turbocharging, and a post-covid desire to know where your food is coming from

just thinking out loud I guess

umsworth (emsworth), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 03:40 (three weeks ago) link

our way of life changed permanently in many ways after the Great Recession. i suspect the arts are going to get fucked in so many ways.

concert promoters are getting beat up so hard right now. theatres are shutting. bands are ass out.

ultimately I think the future will be we never leave our houses, but all houses are fitted with wheels and remote controls, so our houses are like cars we can drive around to visit each other. cars will no longer be needed.

sex is going to be really weird.

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 03:52 (three weeks ago) link

pretty much the hobbies that keep me the most invigorated are going to be scarcer and harder to participate in and that's gonna fuckin' suck

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 03:53 (three weeks ago) link

weirdly, I have an anxiety disorder, and despite me having typed all of that, I'm not scared about any of it. cos who knows what'll really happen

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 03:54 (three weeks ago) link

INFO: i need to know how sex with my spouse is going to get weirder.

Yerac, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:01 (three weeks ago) link

I suspect partner sex will be the same, I was envisioning two people that don't live together though emerging from their house in this hermetically sealed bubble and like somehow transferring fluids between their bubbles

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:03 (three weeks ago) link

*spousal, not partner. oi...long day

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:03 (three weeks ago) link

sex for me will be about the same - non-existent!

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:04 (three weeks ago) link

the fluids are obviously the best part.

Yerac, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:04 (three weeks ago) link

maybe they'll use those containers that they use in the drive-thru at the bank

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:06 (three weeks ago) link

I think people will wash their hands more

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:07 (three weeks ago) link

I mean, in general, not during sex

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:07 (three weeks ago) link

Or who knows, maybe also during sex

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:07 (three weeks ago) link

i already wash them way more

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:11 (three weeks ago) link

there was a substantial drop in birth rates in the great depression and there almost certainly will be another one coming up for about four obvious reasons

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:48 (three weeks ago) link

I feel like there will be a baby boom in 9-10 months. Now that we're both WFH, I've never spent this much daily time with my wife in our entire relationship, I imagine this will continue provided our daycare doesn't close.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 05:05 (three weeks ago) link

In 13 years those babies will be quaranteens

Ok bloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 05:06 (three weeks ago) link

lol

Dan S, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 05:07 (three weeks ago) link

I will be a eunuch for the rest of my life

xpost oh jesus christ lb

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 05:09 (three weeks ago) link

Lots of people who provide almost no value to humanity are working from home, will stay comfortable and safe; many more people who are necessary, important and generally underpaid will continue to expose themselves to danger in order to get the first group their delivery of French fries/artisanal dog food - if they're lucky enough to keep working.

Maybe we'll catch on to this dichotomy.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 05:13 (three weeks ago) link

there was a substantial drop in birth rates in the great depression and there almost certainly will be another one coming up for about four obvious reasons

come on, the Ghostbusters reboot wasn't that bad

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 05:15 (three weeks ago) link

Further rise of video conferencing / remote work will probably reduce business travel. helpful for reducing carbon emissions.

that's not my post, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 05:32 (three weeks ago) link

After living thru one global catastrophe, will we finally get the necessary political will to tackle climate change?

that's not my post, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 05:34 (three weeks ago) link

soy and linseed sourdough doesn't sound very good to me

Dan S, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 05:48 (three weeks ago) link

Real talk from someone on the inside of this particular issue - local government is going to be fundamentally transformed from here on out. Mayors/alderman/councilpersons (insert your town or cities structure here) will be held accountable for dead people in their municipalities that resulted from the general lack of public policy spawned by years of “our job is development” and “but my property taxes” as priority number one.

jjjusten, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 05:53 (three weeks ago) link

Large cities aren’t immune to this criticism, but generally they are already operating on a higher level (cops not being bastards, rent control, etc) so economically removed policy has been considered by voters. “Small town politics” on the other hand will be changed in a fundamental way. Some of which will be good, some of which will be catastrophically bad. Get ready to see the usual lawyer/realtor/developer group lose their spots (good) but prepare to see reactionary nutjobs seep in as well.

jjjusten, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 06:02 (three weeks ago) link

Oh also, hi. Outside of the explosion of work at my very secondary job, my main job is leaving me a lot of spare time, so I might be around for a while again.

jjjusten, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 06:04 (three weeks ago) link

soy and linseed sourdough doesn't sound very good to me

it's delicious!

umsworth (emsworth), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 06:46 (three weeks ago) link

I was chatting to a Berlin based friend who is struggling to get by but was just about surviving by air bnb-ing part of his flat. Obv that income stream is fucked for now, but was thinking the whole concept of air bnb might not recover for a long time even after this has passed.

calzino, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 09:35 (three weeks ago) link

we were already living in a time of profound political uncertainty, already living under a political system under intense pressure and strain. crises test institutions, and our institutions didn't seem to me to be super robust even before this hit.

i gave up making long-term, specific predictions in november 2016. i don't feel like there's enough specific information about covid-19 right now for me to make any prognostications that are differentiable from wide-eyed speculation. i don't feel like contemplating the potential collapse of "civilization" is particularly helpful to me, personally.

someone on one of my discords was predicting long-term quarantine. i'm thinking about how that would play out. overnight we have a world where the opportunities for billions of people, people who maybe didn't already have super great opportunities in the first place, have dramatically narrowed. people who can't work, can't learn, can't pay their bills. is the expectation that these people will quietly starve to death?

i feel like there is also a certain amount of underestimating of the social effects of prolonged social isolation. i'm a huge introvert. i don't get out much. i'm struggling to imagine a world where almost all our interaction takes place over screens and phones that doesn't involve everybody going utterly fucking bonkers. "stay at home and never talk to anybody again" isn't practical advice. as much as we are into collectively shaming people who go outside, there are folks who have a profound need for social contact. i can't bring myself to assume that refusal to live in complete social isolation is completely a conscious act of moral failure in all cases.

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 09:54 (three weeks ago) link

Large cities aren’t immune to this criticism, but generally they are already operating on a higher level (cops not being bastards

― jjjusten

fucking lol

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 09:55 (three weeks ago) link

I guess the original premise is in part about small but significant changes in our behaviour that will arise from this period of self-containment that could continue if and when things return to something approaching normal? ie after the epidemic is brought under control or effective vaccines or treatments are discovered?

The biggest area for me is around tourism, holidays, business travel etc. On the assumption that industrialised nations will return to broad normality within a year or so then a lot of things will come absolutely roaring back if there is money available - restaurants, nightlife etc being main area, because the pent-up demand will be gigantic. But when is the opportunity to just travel somewhere coming back? The crisis has barely even begun in poorer nations and that's going to have a huge effect on which countries are easier or harder to get into.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 12:40 (three weeks ago) link

Trying to think really small here, is there a board game boom on the way for example?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 12:41 (three weeks ago) link

Yeah the thread is really for small things, I thought there was enough eschatology literally everywhere else. Can’t even go into some threads much because some people seem to be enjoying it.

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 12:43 (three weeks ago) link

I'm wondering what happens to pop music when people can't meet up and dance. We're going to find out soon enough but there could be a sonic step-change in the offing.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 12:51 (three weeks ago) link

Who is enjoying this?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 13:06 (three weeks ago) link

If you don’t know, you don’t read the threads enough, is all I’m say.

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 13:07 (three weeks ago) link

I'm wondering what happens to pop music when people can't meet up and dance. We're going to find out soon enough but there could be a sonic step-change in the offing.


Lots more bedroom music & self-releases? Everyone really will have a soundcloud.

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 13:11 (three weeks ago) link

I feel like cities might empty out of younger people if this goes on for long. Why pay the rent of living in an urban environment if you can’t reap any of the benefits?

Coffee shops are (especially) doomed. Nespresso adoption is going to skyrocket.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 13:12 (three weeks ago) link

I am really hoping we get a long moratorium of politicians trolling the public/their constituents.

Yerac, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 13:13 (three weeks ago) link

maybe food is going to get a bit more geared to the essentials? less artisinal/bourgie

like, fewer people are gonna be cheerfully paying $8.50 Australian (as I do a few times a week) for a loaf soy and linseed sourdough

i literally made my own linseed and emmer sourdough this morning. isolation = crafts (& crusts)

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 13:21 (three weeks ago) link

I live 800 miles from my parents so I'm not un-affected. I do, though, think about what it meant to move away from yr fam before the internet, or before telephone service was common, or when you got in a wagon and drove away and maybe never saw your parents again. I have also read a lot of frontier novels and diaries and personal histories, tbf.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 15:20 (two weeks ago) link

Had a moment of genuine panic thinking about what would happen if the expected winter epidemic happened around Christmas time.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 15:40 (two weeks ago) link

xp Paul Ponzi: I buy nearly all physical media used. On my Amazon "wishlists", third party seller offers haven't been listed, only new prices from Amazon.

Sanpaku, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 15:46 (two weeks ago) link

less fucking in cars?

Malgré les mesures de confinement, un couple de trentenaires s'est retrouvé dans un véhicule pour partager du bon temps sur une base de loisirs située à Muret, au sud de Toulouse. Ils pensaient être à l'abri des regards...

Ils n’ont pas résisté à l’appel de la chair. Mais ça va leur coûter cher. Ce lundi après-midi, lors d’une opération de contrôles d’attestation déployée à Muret, les gendarmes de Haute-Garonne ont repéré un véhicule suspect stationné sur l’aire de loisirs du lac des Bonnets. Même pas vraiment à l’écart.

En s’approchant de l’habitacle de la Mini, les militaires n’ont pu que constater l’évidence. Âgées d’une trentaine d’années, ces deux personnes à moitié dénudées passaient manifestement du bon temps. Écourté par les forces de l’ordre. Vite, on se rhabille.

Mais plutôt que de faire profil bas, l’homme a quelque peu invectivé les gendarmes de Muret. « Pays de merde ! », a-t-il notamment lancé. Lui, comme sa douce, ont été verbalisés : 135 € d’amende. L’histoire ne dit pas quelle case ils avaient cochée sur l’attestation de sortie...

Joey Corona (Euler), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 15:50 (two weeks ago) link

xxp tbh the latest news - that the virus isn’t mutating much - means that if spread is high enough over the next few months, enough of the country should be immune to prevent this. The minor mutations mean the vaccine, when it comes, will be more akin to vaccinating for measles than the flu.

consultant haste (gyac), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 16:08 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah there is middle ground between "never seeing again" and "every year"

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 16:32 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah but iirc there are environmental guidelines that suggest ppl limit flying to 1x per year, and in theory if we moved closer to that norm, if you use your flight to visit your family then all your vacations are gonna be not European/not tropical/not lovely beaches around the world like Karl said. I'd be happy if train travel got a big boost actually.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 16:43 (two weeks ago) link

I was thinking today about my grandfather and how obsessive he was about always having extra food around because he lived through the Depression, and realizing that we're all going to be like that from now on.

too early to tell. Depression lasted over a decade!

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 20:12 (two weeks ago) link

It seems obvious that the ability to travel is going to change massively? Like we already knew how bad it was for carbon emissions but we've also glorified it so much for so long, and tbh it's hugely enjoyable if you can do in the way that seems best to you. But it's not a "right" and it's not good for places that are more tourist attractions than places for people to live (Venice, Dubrovnik, et al?). Maybe it will be un-normalized and we'll all stay home/local more, and go back to driving to Natl Parks for recreation instead of flying to Cabo.

― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:55 AM (six hours ago)bookmarkflaglink

It's not just carbon emissions.

Even before the cause of white-nose syndrome was identified, Al Hicks and his colleagues suspected an introduced species. Whatever was killing the bats was presumably something they’d never encountered before, since the mortality rate was so high. Meanwhile, the syndrome was spreading from upstate New York in a classic bull’s-eye pattern. This seemed to indicate that the killer had touched down near Albany. Suggestively, when the die-off began to make national news, a spelunker sent Hicks some photographs he’d shot about forty miles west of the city.
The photos dated from 2006, a full year before Hicks’s coworkers had called him to say “Holy shit,” and they showed bats with clear signs of white-nose. The spelunker had taken his pictures in a cave connected to Howe Caverns, a popular tourist destination which offers, among other attractions, flashlight tours and underground boat trips.

“It’s kind of interesting that the first record we have of this is photographs from a commercial cave in New York that gets about two hundred thousand visits a year,” Hicks told me.

Re: driving to National Parks, flying to Cabo and "rights" http://fvjzk13ui2.pdfcloud.org/dl2.php?id=60737078&h=ee3b9d54b996c8087973382fda02d72a&u=cache&ext=pdf&n=The%20sixth%20extinction%20an%20unnatural%20history%20by%20elizabeth%20kolbert#page189"> see Chapter X - The New Pangea

Deflatormouse, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 21:39 (two weeks ago) link

Out of choice, I haven't flown anywhere since 2002 so if this all results in fewer people flying, then good cos I will feel like less of a freak.

ymo sumac (NickB), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 22:00 (two weeks ago) link

On my Amazon "wishlists", third party seller offers haven't been listed, only new prices from Amazon.

― Sanpaku, Wednesday, March 25, 2020 3:46 PM

If you go into the item pages, the used sellers are still listed. Amazon has done this before and I hate it because I regularly browse to see what's getting scarce or changing significantly in price and my wishlists are colossal, so I hope they change it back. Seems a bit shady.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 22:02 (two weeks ago) link

A friend, a father of three (grade 6 girl, a couple of younger boys), wondered today, "I get depressed in particular thinking about ______ (and to some extent, ______)--what kind of 'developmental' time is this? How many kids are going to grow up completely screwed up by all this? Socially, at least." I didn't have an answer.

Two things will definitely change in my own life. One I posted about in the economic thread--a fund I invested in that I will extricate myself from pronto, if it ever gets back to par.

The other is so basic I'm almost embarrassed to say so: if it's not too cold out (probably not often in the winter as a whole), I will leave the car in the driveway and make short trips to the grocery store or for coffee on foot. Understand that I've had a life-long love affair with driving, very much tied in with the experience of listening to music in a car--really, it's the only place I ever listen to music anymore. But I've come to love the twilight-turning-dark walks around town I've gone on every night for the past two-plus weeks, in spite of (I hope not because of) how desolate it is out there.

clemenza, Sunday, 29 March 2020 00:43 (one week ago) link

This is a how-will-COVID-19-not-change-the-world post, but there (thankfully) isn't a thread for that, so I'll put it here: people will still argue about Dylan's-back pronouncements.

clemenza, Sunday, 29 March 2020 14:16 (one week ago) link

I mean, there's a chance this will stop that!

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 29 March 2020 14:27 (one week ago) link

As someone who lives about 10 minutes (by car or train) from a major airport, I gotta say it's kind of nice to hear almost no planes and to hear lots and lots of birds.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 29 March 2020 14:43 (one week ago) link

the air has gotten better here and I hope it is a significant next step toward banning cars

Joey Corona (Euler), Sunday, 29 March 2020 14:45 (one week ago) link

I mentioned on Facebook how quiet it is when I go out walking after 8:00 at night. I've never experienced anything like it. On the rare occasion a car passes, it's like a train going through.

clemenza, Sunday, 29 March 2020 14:46 (one week ago) link

i feel sad for anybody who grows up completely screwed up but given that i grew up completely screwed up myself, and so did a fairly sizeable chunk of the people i know and love, i feel like this is more of a quantitative change than a qualitative change?

Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 29 March 2020 16:03 (one week ago) link

I also, perhaps chimerically and naively, believe that some of those kids will come out of this with a better appreciation of things they took for granted (hey, if it's happening with me, maybe it'll happen with some of them). Two middle-school kids, out for a walk in 2024: "Remember that bizarre time when we couldn't leave the house for six months, and we were stuck playing the same dumb video games and looking at the same dumb Instagram pages over and over and over?"

clemenza, Sunday, 29 March 2020 16:45 (one week ago) link

(Preemptive flash of self-awareness: not a knock on ILX! I'm glad it's here.)

clemenza, Sunday, 29 March 2020 16:46 (one week ago) link

Loved those recent posts clemenza and kate. Lots chiming with my own thoughts about how this will play out socially and emotionally.

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Monday, 30 March 2020 03:59 (one week ago) link

Appreciate that. Walking is very conducive to writing in your head before you get home.

clemenza, Monday, 30 March 2020 04:07 (one week ago) link

I think my kids will remember these as glory days. “Remember when we didn’t have to go to school and got to play video games every day?”

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 30 March 2020 13:44 (one week ago) link

Getting paid to do nothing for 3 months is gonna be hard to come back from I think. God knows I hate working for a living.

oscar bravo, Monday, 30 March 2020 13:56 (one week ago) link

I mean I find returning to work after paid 2 weeks vacation depressing enough as it is.

oscar bravo, Monday, 30 March 2020 13:57 (one week ago) link

Getting paid to do nothing for 3 months is gonna be hard to come back from I think. God knows I hate working for a living.

I'm actually working (if managing the social media accounts for a medical school counts) but I'm curious how many people who have office jobs that are now doing those jobs via video-conferencing and email, and seeing no drop in productivity other than that attributable to COVID-19 generally, are gonna want to stay on WFH status permanently? I know I vastly prefer it, but I've been doing it for close to five years already.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 30 March 2020 14:12 (one week ago) link

I’m definitely switching to 3 days a week telework. I need to be in the office for certain things, though, and my wife already WFH’s nearly every day of the week.

El Tomboto, Monday, 30 March 2020 14:17 (one week ago) link

Getting paid to do nothing for 3 months is gonna be hard to come back from I think. God knows I hate working for a living.

Haha so true. I have all the natural human responses to global peril, but at the same time whenever I hear "We're closer to a vaccine!" or "Deaths are down!" part of me shivers at the thought of returning to the office.

Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 30 March 2020 14:19 (one week ago) link

will all the de-lurking ilxors still post once this is over?

El Tomboto, Monday, 30 March 2020 14:21 (one week ago) link

count me as the opposite -- I need some measure of externally imposed routine in my life

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Monday, 30 March 2020 14:37 (one week ago) link

Wearing shoes all day every day again is going to feel really weird.

Matt DC, Monday, 30 March 2020 14:38 (one week ago) link

When I'm out walking now, and I see anybody do anything that's even remotely out of the ordinary--stop in the middle of the street and stare at something for a few seconds, signal for a right-hand turn and then change their mind...okay, if I see anybody do anything except walk forward in a straight line--I grumble "What the fuck are you doing?" Hopefully that will pass.

clemenza, Monday, 30 March 2020 15:31 (one week ago) link

private health insurance won't survive this. millions are being thrown off their healthcare at the time they need ti most.

treeship., Monday, 30 March 2020 19:19 (one week ago) link

finally getting out of my pyjamas will feel odd

||||||||, Monday, 30 March 2020 19:23 (one week ago) link

haha I was properly dressed bar wearing pyjamas today, but I haven’t worn shoes in two weeks

extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Monday, 30 March 2020 19:23 (one week ago) link

What's a shoe?

coco vide (pomenitul), Monday, 30 March 2020 19:24 (one week ago) link

*pyjamas bottoms

extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Monday, 30 March 2020 19:24 (one week ago) link

I was watching Top Chef and people were touching their faces while preparing food!

Yerac, Monday, 30 March 2020 19:26 (one week ago) link

I can see a star in the Paris night sky : things have changed

Joey Corona (Euler), Monday, 30 March 2020 19:32 (one week ago) link

i keep waiting for the sky/air to clear a lot here but I think it's unlikely since we are in a valley.

Yerac, Monday, 30 March 2020 19:35 (one week ago) link

I would like to think that ppl might be less inclined to be cunts about the whole concept of prison

Like they’ll be about to moan about how “lenient” it is to lock a human being away for five years of their life in the shittiest conditions and then suddenly they’ll remember that time they lost their fucking mind after two weeks of having to mostly stay in their house with only Netflix and Disney plus and Ocado and deliveroo and Spotify and FaceTime and amazon prime and audible and six concubines for company

Microbes oft teem (wins), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 13:03 (one week ago) link

bloody concubine hoarders, some of us have to get by with only three

a struggle to make meat-snacking fit (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 13:04 (one week ago) link

this may be a "men are from mars, women are from Venus" thing but I'm actually ok with rapists having a shitty time

kinder, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 13:39 (one week ago) link

Can certainly see how my post comes across as strongly pro-rapist but that isn’t how I intended it fwiw

I’m thinking of the daily mail reader arguments that judges are all too soft and it’s practically a holiday to lock people (including non-violent offenders and disproportionately non-whites) away for “only” a year or five or ten. We should at least be honest and start with the admission that this is a heinous punishment and argue why it’s good from there

Microbes oft teem (wins), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 14:14 (one week ago) link

The thought processes of Daily Mail readers are probably past saving tbh. There will always be some reason why XYZ doesn't apply to any other group.

kinder, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 16:13 (one week ago) link

Anyone else getting a ton of magazine ebook suggestions on amazon? The magazines usually bought in newsagents and supermarkets.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 21:10 (one week ago) link

I just went outside to take out the trash and see if the bodega had any paper towels and it was terrifying. The dull gray sky and light drizzle didn't help matters much. Also paper towels were $3.50 a roll at the bodega where I wound up buying them (another had opened a Costco pack of Bounty and affixed a $3.99 price tag to each individual roll)

maura, Thursday, 2 April 2020 21:33 (one week ago) link

I timed my beer run perfectly today and picked up an 8 pack of giant paper towel rolls from the rapidly dwindling delivery that our local Safeway must have gotten just this morning. Also fresh strawberries and popsicles (people been hoarding the good popsicles too).

El Tomboto, Thursday, 2 April 2020 22:05 (one week ago) link

xp: our local kmart was reportedly selling individual rolls of toilet paper for $2.69.

☮️ (peace, man), Friday, 3 April 2020 11:01 (one week ago) link

I have been feeling really bad lately for people who are having to go through this alone, or worse, stuck with someone they would prefer not to be around constantly. I grew up starved of loving touch, and I know how that affected me. I already felt like I was living in a world where physical touch was stigmatized because of uncontrolled abusers and creeps without a proper understanding of consent or relational power dynamics. How many people are having, possibly for the first time, to live a life completely bereft of touch? How long will this go on, and what is happening to all those people?

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 3 April 2020 14:26 (one week ago) link


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