If Starmer is just going to be running scared shitless of not getting arselicking puff-pieces by the Graun or the right wing press reluctently calling him a grownup for the next 4 years, he might as well just pack in now because his destination is abject failure and a much bigger arsekicking than '15 or '19.
― calzino, Monday, 13 July 2020 08:31 (three years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2020/jul/13/super-rich-call-for-higher-taxes-on-wealthy-to-pay-for-covid-19-recovery?CMP
Looks like Wes gone off-message here if the Starmer quote is anything to go by. As for the rest of it, I'll believe it when I see it.
Also how on earth is Richard Curtis that level of super-rich?
― Matt DC, Monday, 13 July 2020 08:31 (three years ago) link
Four Weddings and Blackadder 2 royalties? Fuck knows but I'd rather they supertaxed all his rich friends and excluded him, just so he can't look any smugger than usual!
― calzino, Monday, 13 July 2020 08:38 (three years ago) link
lol Brian Cox tweeted some ill-informed shite about the paras, loads of amateur history experts pointed out their record consists of abject failure in the theatre of war and being deployed as armed thugs murdering citizens on the streets of Derry. Brian Cox deletes tweet and complains he is within his rights to talk ill-informed shite and fears he might end up in a gulag!
― calzino, Monday, 13 July 2020 08:55 (three years ago) link
Dodds was talking about a wealth tax last week which, again, Starmer seems open to. That's why Reeves and Streetings' interjections were so odd. At the very least, the message discipline is all over the place.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 13 July 2020 08:56 (three years ago) link
I'd presume Streeting would say 80k + earners is a grey area for wealth tax, because how far does 80k get you these days?
― calzino, Monday, 13 July 2020 09:00 (three years ago) link
£80k+ is a tax on yr income rather than the value of your assets and its the latter that's being discussed. A wealth tax is more attractive in a crisis because wealth tends to just sit there accruing more wealth whereas income can be spent to stimulate the economy.
It's also impossible to move, say, a central London property portfolio to an offshore tax haven. There's no way the Tories would even consider a wealth tax unless Cummings is really up for a fight with the party, so it's a relatively safe position for a Labour to take given it would have widespread public support.
― Matt DC, Monday, 13 July 2020 09:05 (three years ago) link
Yeah I know the distinction between wealth/income tax, but does Wes is what I'm saying. He often doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
― calzino, Monday, 13 July 2020 09:07 (three years ago) link
I don't think even he would be against wealth tax if he was pressed.
― calzino, Monday, 13 July 2020 09:08 (three years ago) link
I used wealth tax in the sense of "wealthy people" my bad!
― calzino, Monday, 13 July 2020 09:13 (three years ago) link
A wealth tax is what Piketty bangs on about, right? Also this guy, who says there are (theoretically) 174 of your billions of pounds that could be raised through taxing wealth at the same rate as income:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/apr/22/wealth-tax-rise-could-raise-174bn-tackle-covid-19-expert-says
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 July 2020 09:15 (three years ago) link
There's a benefit to the right in people not really understanding the difference, but whenever Streeting pulls something like this I assume he's pretending to misunderstand and is on a "millions of voters love McDonald's" tip.
― Matt DC, Monday, 13 July 2020 09:28 (three years ago) link
Are you talking about D:Ream's ex-keyboard player or the actor from Dundee?
― The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Monday, 13 July 2020 09:31 (three years ago) link
Things can Only get Shitter Brian
― calzino, Monday, 13 July 2020 09:32 (three years ago) link
Thought as much.
― The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Monday, 13 July 2020 09:32 (three years ago) link
saving privates brian
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Monday, 13 July 2020 09:35 (three years ago) link
I don't think his charming gf would repeat that comment she made about utilising progressive eugenics to eliminate trans people from the human race again, just because free speech is under threat from the vile twitter mob!
― calzino, Monday, 13 July 2020 09:39 (three years ago) link
She’s his wife and she’s got even worse over the time, as you’d expect.
― scampos mentis (gyac), Monday, 13 July 2020 09:44 (three years ago) link
Maybe obfuscation is the wrong word, just bat the question away,
Anything that doesn't sound like you're hiding a body in the basement. The content doesn't even really matter, whats more important is the length of the reply. Long answers are the stock in trade of swindlers
― anvil, Monday, 13 July 2020 09:48 (three years ago) link
"it is what it is"
― anvil, Monday, 13 July 2020 09:49 (three years ago) link
this fucking country
How is Keir Starmer doing after 100 days, compared to previous party leaders?Our exclusive polling from @yougov shows voters rate him:- similar to Tony Blair- very different to Jeremy Corbyn. - more similar to David Cameron & Theresa May than Corbynhttps://t.co/4DAH3DDnd6— Tamara Cohen (@tamcohen) July 13, 2020
― scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 13 July 2020 12:59 (three years ago) link
voters otm tho i suppose
― scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 13 July 2020 13:00 (three years ago) link
'another future is possible', it's just that i, sir keir starmer, will do everything in my power to stop it
― scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 13 July 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link
If Richard Curtis was to write some execrable NewLabour fanfic comedy he have invented Sir Kieth Starmer
― calzino, Monday, 13 July 2020 13:07 (three years ago) link
the vote that sucked
― scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 13 July 2020 13:23 (three years ago) link
This is up to companies in the city to tell the workers they have to come in. And what if they don't and wfh is working really well, what then?
PM urges people working at home to look at coming back to work in a safe way— Nick Eardley (@nickeardleybbc) July 13, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 July 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link
PM to country: “please come get the rona so pret doesn’t go to the wall”
― the video for fuse ODG’s “azonto” (||||||||), Monday, 13 July 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link
Our workplace has already emailed us to go “we have no plans to change what we said already”. Feel bad for anyone being forced.
― scampos mentis (gyac), Monday, 13 July 2020 14:37 (three years ago) link
It's commercial rents that they are shitting themselves about. A lot of companies are going to look at the potential cost saving here.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 July 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link
I know from some friends who work for them that several big companies have told their office staff they won't be back until 2021
― chonky floof (groovypanda), Monday, 13 July 2020 14:43 (three years ago) link
That's my understanding as well. I would be surprised if the majority of office-based companies were back in the office this year, excluding things like call centres and maybe some IT functions. I doubt there are many who want to see a debilitating rona outbreak among their workforce, possible lawsuits etc. And yeah more than a few will be wondering why they're spending so much on office space right now.
It's especially hard on city centre pubs and restaurants I suspect, especially given vastly reduced tourist numbers (and if those don't come back it'll be because we've got much larger problems than a few restaurants closing down).
― Matt DC, Monday, 13 July 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link
Pretty sure a lot of middle/senior management are quite enjoying the thousands of pounds they're no longer spending commuting into London from Surrey or Kent as well.
― Matt DC, Monday, 13 July 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link
withdrawal of furlough in october is a car crash waiting to happen
― the video for fuse ODG’s “azonto” (||||||||), Monday, 13 July 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link
not to mention all those hours saved not pissing about in airports
xp
― the video for fuse ODG’s “azonto” (||||||||), Monday, 13 July 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link
― scampos mentis (gyac), Monday, 13 July 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link
HIS STANCE HAHAHAHA pic.twitter.com/6a9WkOWxdx— ACAB And Looking For A Hand To Hold (@Possum_Stan) July 13, 2020
― nashwan, Monday, 13 July 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link
the new Avengers movie looks lit
― Mein Skampf (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 July 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link
omg that is real? lol. he's picked up some power stance tips from his tory friends
― calzino, Monday, 13 July 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link
Why do male politicians look so weird when you take them out of a suit?
― Matt DC, Monday, 13 July 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link
rude
Jeremy Corbyn fan of #TheFall seen here with vinyl edition of the Hex Enduction Hour - take that Cameron! pic.twitter.com/tXEG1Ml9Mw— Graham Brown-Martin (@GrahamBM) September 15, 2015
― the video for fuse ODG’s “azonto” (||||||||), Monday, 13 July 2020 15:31 (three years ago) link
Corbyn a big fan of controversial racist opening track The Classical
― Mein Skampf (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 July 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link
Pretty sure i'm not going back to the office until Q2 next year, if at all. A consistent theme of corporate comms has been that working from home has had no measurable impact on productivity. The office is likely to become an optional 'collaborative space' rather than somewhere you go to sit for 40 hours a week.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 13 July 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link
in many respects that's a big improvement to the work world in general, imo
― Mein Skampf (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 July 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link
My work are definitely not expecting us back in, and definitely listening to the people enjoying the new way of life (which isn't everyone*), to the point where when I asked about restarting my abortive move to Scotland they were happy to say sure, we will sign off that you're working from home for the next six months and we don't care where.
It definitely helps that I've been seconded to our parent company, whose European head office is in Edinburgh, mind, so if and when I have to come back into the office there's one there.
* they sent out a survey on it, and it came back nearly perfectly split six ways between "Ideally I would like to work 0/1/2/3/4/5 days in the office per week"
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 13 July 2020 16:01 (three years ago) link
Pretty sure a lot of middle/senior management are quite enjoying the thousands of pounds they're no longer spending commuting into London from Surrey or Kent as well.The counterweight to this is that sitting at home means they’re not surrounded by sycophants and minions. Plus half of them are divorced and bored out of their skulls.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 July 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link
big downside to this -if it is a long term trend- is just imagine how shit the trains are going to get without that revenue and without that pressure to deliver. or maybe operators go bust and we can start re-nationalising things?
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Monday, 13 July 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link
i've been using a chopping board for a desk for 4 months, would be nice to sit up straight. plus air conditioning.
on the other hand, i can have an hour's lie in and still get to my desk an hour early.
― koogs, Monday, 13 July 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link
A British pub landlord has put an electric fence in front of his bar to encourage customers to keep social distancing.
Jonny McFadden, who runs the Star Inn in St Just, Cornwall, said there was limited space in his small pub and he had struggled to get the social distancing message across to some customers.
He described the barrier as "just a normal electric fence that you would find in a field".
Asked if it was switched on, Mr McFadden said: "Come and find out - there is a fear factor and it works."
He said the fence was a good deterrent because customers "don't want to touch it to find out whether it is on or not", adding that "people keep away from it, people are like sheep".
― Matt DC, Monday, 13 July 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link
So this COVID outbreak on a 'farm' in Herefordshire leaves Priti Patel's political correctness/Labour council KILL narrative looking a bit shop-soiled - given that there's probably never been a Labour councillor in the history of Herefordshire County Council let alone a Labour council.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-53393255
― The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Monday, 13 July 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link
and with the tories so doggedly devotes to truthfulness in all things as well, they’ve really painted themselves into a corner here
― scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 13 July 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link