love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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I say a few %, I mean like 2. It uses very little power when synced at least.

Noel Emits, Thursday, 28 May 2020 10:52 (three years ago) link

have to say fair play to the FT for their covid coverage, been consistently the best/only one worth reading

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Thursday, 28 May 2020 10:55 (three years ago) link

From that heckling article upthread, the most depressing truth bomb I'll read today

you weren’t so much voting for two differing visions of how to shape a country, but for who was the best manager of a country whose shape was already fixed

BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Thursday, 28 May 2020 10:57 (three years ago) link

The fact that people have continued to use the Tube throughout lockdown and the virus appears to have declined heavily in London is positive and suggests that even with relaxation measures it should decline further in other regions over the next fortnight.

The problems will occur I think when people start moving around the country again - the govt is desperate to allow people to take summer holidays, particularly in Britain and that level of movement just does not seem like a good idea right now. Once again the Cummings situation has been spectacularly unhelpful here. At least we'll be able to see what's happened in other countries - Spain in particular is opening up massively and if they get their second spike earlier then, in theory, the government should be able to react. Note the In Theory bit.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 May 2020 11:02 (three years ago) link

yeah a lot of this rests on the government learning from their mistakes and reacting appropriately, which is harder when you are constitutionally incapable of recognising mistakes

"The fact that people have continued to use the Tube throughout lockdown"

Is that right? Usage has been considerable but down? Hasn't the tube been dead at weekends?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 May 2020 11:33 (three years ago) link

QC Twitter up in arms, justifiably for once:

Attorney General has replied to my letter. I sought assurances she would uphold the rule of law, in the light of her tweeting in favour of accepting Cummings' account. She gives no assurance. Instead she gives a disingenuous account of her earlier tweet. pic.twitter.com/Hw1eVsBJ4Q

— Charlie Falconer (@LordCFalconer) May 27, 2020

Braverman's elevation to a role the last two incumbents were turfed out of for exercising a degree of constitutionally-required political objectivity is one of the most indefensible appointments in recent memory.

ShariVari, Thursday, 28 May 2020 11:37 (three years ago) link

Yes, she's atrocious.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 May 2020 11:39 (three years ago) link

People have still been required to go to work throughout and the fact that there have been fewer Tubes running has meant they've been busier than they otherwise would be.

Meanwhile "civic duty" is currently trending, in exactly the way that you might expect if you were anyone other than Matt Hancock. Cummings has effectively made it impossible for the government to communicate public health information or guidance in a pandemic.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 May 2020 11:41 (three years ago) link

BREAKING: A Durham Police investigation has concluded that Dominic Cummings DID breach lockdown rules when he drove to Barnard Castle, the Telegraph has learned

— Martin Evans (@evansma) May 28, 2020

stet, Thursday, 28 May 2020 11:45 (three years ago) link

charge him, go on

stet, Thursday, 28 May 2020 11:46 (three years ago) link

o rly

Breaking: Durham Police said it was a "minor" breach and therefore they will take no further action.

— Martin Evans (@evansma) May 28, 2020

60 quid coming straight out of the public purse

Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 May 2020 11:47 (three years ago) link

lmao

should have waited until saturday tho imo

||||||||, Thursday, 28 May 2020 11:50 (three years ago) link

Kudos to the picture editor, that is the perfect image pic.twitter.com/gpVsGfztL5

— Greg Jenner: 'DEAD FAMOUS OUT NOW!' (@greg_jenner) May 28, 2020

stet, Thursday, 28 May 2020 11:52 (three years ago) link

cummings has powerful gollum energy

Probably what kept him alive when he was stricken with the rona.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:04 (three years ago) link

That video of Hancock laughing is going to haunt him.

gyac, Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:12 (three years ago) link

and me

stet, Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:15 (three years ago) link

Some information on the free online retraining stuff the government is partnering on:

https://www.techworld.com/careers/case-for-universal-action-on-digital-re-skilling-now-3789193/

It doesn't seem to have made much of a splash with Cummings dominating the agenda.

ShariVari, Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:20 (three years ago) link

idk, hundreds or thousands of courses for free isn't a bad thing but seems like a drop in the ocean of what's required.

ShariVari, Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:28 (three years ago) link

yeah i just like remembering 150 years ago when we could all laugh at skills wallets and go to the pub

any courses on how to make your own poteen/moonshine still and the old culinary art of squirrel roasting, got to prepare for the future.

calzino, Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:34 (three years ago) link

With the appropriate caveats, there's some interesting stuff here:

https://uklearns.pearson.com/courses.html?#stq=&stp=1

ShariVari, Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:46 (three years ago) link

boxedjoy's point about service workers not being able to have their phone on them is a good one and I'll add that staff in schools are almost universally prohibited from having phones on them for safeguarding reasons. Probably many other workplaces practices that are preventative of this being used in many ways that the government has ignorantly overlooked in their quest to solve this with technical! gimmicks! solutions! apps! cheap! innovations!

plax (ico), Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:48 (three years ago) link

i think there's a real problem with how the terminology 'contact tracing' already has all these contemporary resonances that seem to link it in the imagination to smartphones (contacts) and the kind of high militaristic high tech stuff you see in bond films ('tracing') immediately puts in my head sort of gulf-war star wars images. In fact contact tracing is a labour-intensive activity that needs to draw on fairly mundane knowledge (local communities, lifestyles, connections) and would be better overseen by community nurses than mobile phone company operators.

plax (ico), Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:52 (three years ago) link

i'm suspect that the problems with the contact tracing scheme are more about inherent lack of understanding of issues affecting health (exacerbated by gov policy) than the fact that its being rushed out to cover cummings. it would have been a shitshow anyway.

plax (ico), Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:54 (three years ago) link

*I* suspect (i'm sure there's more typos than that as i can't write for shit but anyway)

plax (ico), Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:55 (three years ago) link

Presumably it won't work on the Tube either?

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:55 (three years ago) link

The alternative to a technical solution basically relies on you being able to tell contact tracers who you've been vaguely close to in the last week, or whatever, which works relatively well when you've been social distancing and know who you have seen, it doesn't really work as well if you caught it in TK Maxx or on the train to work.

ShariVari, Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:55 (three years ago) link

yea i'd suggest not opening tk maxx or sending people to work on the train yet too

plax (ico), Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:57 (three years ago) link

i think this is a false dichotomy SV as the technical solution *will not work* for those things either.

plax (ico), Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:58 (three years ago) link

for a list of reasons that people here and elsewhere have noted (my one addition is, my phone decides 50% of the time to not let me answer when someone rings and if its that unreliable for its primary function....)

plax (ico), Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:00 (three years ago) link

No, absolutely - it’s a fudge between the intensive community-led work that should have started weeks ago and the invasive China / Korea model.

ShariVari, Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link

'the invasive china/korea model'

i must say, from korea it does not feel like these are the same thing

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:03 (three years ago) link

i can sit in my flat and see two dozen bluetooth devices. if one of these is an 'infected' phone, will i be quarantined for 2 weeks despite living in a different flat / floor / building?

koogs, Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:13 (three years ago) link

what kind of hellish panoptical rear window remake are you describing

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:19 (three years ago) link

When people tell you what they are etc

This is incredibly disturbing footage. Sir Humphry Wakefield stands in his crypt, sipping red wine and discussing genetics.

(By the way, his son-in-law Dominic Cummings has written lots about the “heritability” of intelligence and the future of eugenics.)pic.twitter.com/UR13xOLIsN

— Sam Knights (@samjknights) May 28, 2020

stet, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link

"Very few first-generation geniuses" says Very Clever Product of Inherited Wealth

stet, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

That video of Hancock laughing is going to haunt him.

― gyac, Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:12 (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'm not one for conspiracy theories but you know how Twitter always knows what you're searching for after you type half a character based on your bubble, your location and what's trending? I typed Matt Hancoc and it still didn't know despite there being thousands of tweets today about him laughing. There are also no tweet suggestions for searching on Hancock+laughing.

Maybe it's like Cummings at the weekend where he's blessed with a porn element to his surname.

BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link

Searching Matt Hancoc gives me "results for Matt Hancock" so they might have fixed it.

Starmer has spoken following the police thing, is taking a pop at Johnson for being "too weak"

stet, Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:01 (three years ago) link

377 deaths yesterday

As of 9am 28 May, there have been 3,918,079 tests, with 119,587 tests on 27 May.

269,127 people have tested positive.

As of 5pm on 27 May, of those tested positive for coronavirus, across all settings, 37,837 have sadly died. pic.twitter.com/zj0HjOtMDG

— Department of Health and Social Care (@DHSCgovuk) May 28, 2020

gyac, Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:09 (three years ago) link

i have questions

koogs, Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

Johnson shutting down any questions about Cummings.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link

UNAVAILABLE is a fun thing to see on an official government report on critically important information

Laura K and Pesto and left sitting like a pair of dummies.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

Whitty and Valance somehow managed to make Johnson look good there.

stet, Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

Nearly 400 deaths, just incredible.

Assuming the opening of schools has been quietly dropped?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link

lol don't be daft

Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link


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