love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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"No one saw it coming" is the best bit in that letter.

Matt DC, Saturday, 2 May 2020 13:59 (four years ago) link

The good cops & bad cops of Haringey trying out their latest social distancing measures

We have the pleasure of 20 new recruits across the BCU who just completed their final training on street duties.

Normally they have a parade ceremony at Hendon but made do with some crackers & cheese☺️😩

We wish them every success on their new journey & stay safe. #NewRecruits pic.twitter.com/deCG4QKDUC

— MPS Haringey |#StayHomeSaveLives (@MPSHaringey) May 2, 2020

all things must pasteurize (Matt #2), Saturday, 2 May 2020 14:14 (four years ago) link

In other news, the latest Johnson sprog has been named...Wilfred?!

all things must pasteurize (Matt #2), Saturday, 2 May 2020 14:22 (four years ago) link

This is Belgium.

Meanwhile in Belgium... their deputy prime minister getting to grips with the situation. pic.twitter.com/NPnelc6shd

— Laura Round (@LauraRound) May 1, 2020

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 May 2020 15:04 (four years ago) link

‘we want to support the aviation industry any way we can’ says jenrick at today’s press conference

can’t wait for government to nationalise the airlines for the benefit of the nation

made the mistake of listening to 15 minutes of PM. the steady drip of stories about how capitalism can be saved asap started making me feel ill.

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 May 2020 16:22 (four years ago) link

I don't think it would save capitalism but would like to propose an experiment to launch Wilfred into space and see if he makes a better satellite than his useless fucking dad has a PM so far.

calzino, Saturday, 2 May 2020 16:32 (four years ago) link

The aviation issue is interesting. BA seems to be opposed to taking any government money (though parent company IAG has received some from Spain) and is using it as an excuse to sack staff and decrease pay / conditions. It sounds like Virgin is in serious trouble and the government has made it fairly clear it won’t help - not unreasonably, given that they’ve barely paid any tax or made a profit at any point over the last few years.

ShariVari, Saturday, 2 May 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link

My occasional whippet Wilf objects to those idiots and their spawn, who have ruined a perfectly good dog’s name.

santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 2 May 2020 21:23 (four years ago) link

so sorry about that suzy. These lowlife ruin everything they touch.

calzino, Saturday, 2 May 2020 21:24 (four years ago) link

not that you could ruin a beautiful whippet just by name association!

calzino, Saturday, 2 May 2020 21:26 (four years ago) link

The pic of Embarrassed Wilf is over on the birdie hellsite, as is the custom.

santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 2 May 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/03/uk-lockdown-must-not-be-lifted-until-covid-19-transmission-is-understood-say-scientists?CMP

50% of new confirmed cases in the UK are now healthcare workers - so a lack of PPE is directly affecting the country's ability put the worst of the outbreak behind it.

Matt DC, Sunday, 3 May 2020 10:45 (four years ago) link

Interview with Nadia Whittome, Labour MP for Nottingham East and the youngest MP in the Commons, who has returned to care work during the crisis (it's what she was doing directly before the December election).

https://www.leftlion.co.uk/read/2020/may/nadia-whittome-nottingham-east-mp-covid-19-coronavirus-response/

mike t-diva, Sunday, 3 May 2020 11:09 (four years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/03/uk-lockdown-must-not-be-lifted-until-covid-19-transmission-is-understood-say-scientists?CMP🕸

50% of new confirmed cases in the UK are now healthcare workers - so a lack of PPE is directly affecting the country's ability put the worst of the outbreak behind it.


*clapping intensifies*

Microbes oft teem (wins), Sunday, 3 May 2020 11:09 (four years ago) link

xp
she was on AQ on Friday night, she's my hero - she's so brilliant and fuck about 99% of MPs who aren't worth shit next to her.

calzino, Sunday, 3 May 2020 11:11 (four years ago) link

Watching some of the news this morning and a bit of Andrew Marr, I just don't see the prospect of the Tories being held to account over any of this, they're getting away with murder (no pun intended) right now, I can see them coming out of this stronger than ever. People on this thread keep saying, "Ah but just wait until unemployment goes through the roof! Or the housing market crashes! The economy tanks!" but they've probably got the single greatest get-out clause any British government has ever had. Plus Boris Johnson almost died! Stick that in your pipe and smoke it! And, by the way, did you know Boris Johnson almost died?

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 May 2020 11:18 (four years ago) link

otm i.e. “now is not the time for negativity”

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 3 May 2020 11:19 (four years ago) link

I don't know about nearly died, wasn't a doctor quoted as saying he might have been "gilding the lily" and using a bit of "poetic licence" by hogging a precious bed in ICU.

calzino, Sunday, 3 May 2020 11:22 (four years ago) link

I think there's an awful lot of wishful thinking itt... but it's understandable because what's the alternative?

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 May 2020 11:23 (four years ago) link

(xp) You obviously haven't heard about the cunt's interview with the Sun that's vying with Wilfred the 7th, 8th, 10th for space on today's front pages.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 May 2020 11:24 (four years ago) link

Starmer's approach on this will fuck Labour as much as standing with the Tories on Scottish independence. He's put himself in a position where all he can gain is a pat of the head for being a grown up.

If our response is deemed (or spun) as a success we'll stick with Boris Churchill for Getting Covid Done.
If it's as expected the worst in Europe and second only to US globally then politely and respectfully and forensically holding hands with Boris makes you part of the problem.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Sunday, 3 May 2020 11:35 (four years ago) link

It already is the worst in Europe and it already is being spun as a success.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 May 2020 11:43 (four years ago) link

British journalist discovers the outcome of British journalism. https://t.co/U397gmnL2q

— epiplexis (@epiplexis_) May 3, 2020

the senseless fucked up duplexity of the british public will keep the tories in power for at least another decade, no matter how weak their leadership is.

calzino, Sunday, 3 May 2020 11:52 (four years ago) link

I was allowing for the dust to settle in a year or so and someone to do all the above average death calculations as each country is counting differently but yes, it's terrible and probably the worst.

xp

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Sunday, 3 May 2020 11:54 (four years ago) link

According to Grant Shapps this morning, the reason the death rate looks so bad in comparison to other countries is because we've got really good statisticians in the UK. No joke.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 May 2020 12:06 (four years ago) link

for a start those germans have traditionally been not very competent at the old game of counting corpses

calzino, Sunday, 3 May 2020 12:10 (four years ago) link

People on this thread keep saying, "Ah but just wait until unemployment goes through the roof! Or the housing market crashes! The economy tanks!" but they've probably got the single greatest get-out clause any British government has ever had. Plus Boris Johnson almost died! Stick that in your pipe and smoke it! And, by the way, did you know Boris Johnson almost died?

― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 May 2020 bookmarkflaglink

How does this make sense? People aren't going to cut Boris slack if they are struggling in a recession because his life was in danger lol.

I am counting on the cruelty if the British public here.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 May 2020 12:17 (four years ago) link

This crisis has hardly started to work itself through.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 May 2020 12:18 (four years ago) link

The cardinal error you're making is assuming politics has to make sense, I would have thought the last few years would have disavowed you of that notion.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 May 2020 12:22 (four years ago) link

Hello?

67% think government prepared badly for coronavirus pandemic, yet 61% think government is handling the situation well

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 May 2020 12:23 (four years ago) link

Notwithstanding the fact that you picked out the least serious part of my post.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 May 2020 12:28 (four years ago) link

People like money in their pockets more than they like Boris Johnson. They will need to keep things working for most people.

I saw people gasp at that poll on twitter but ultimately Sunak has kept the show on the road for enough people, so the numbers reflect that.

xp I treat all boys of your posts seriously, Tom! Even if you do not.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 May 2020 12:31 (four years ago) link

I don't, I thought you'd have realized that by now!

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 May 2020 12:33 (four years ago) link

i'm with optimistic alphie on this one tbh, the tories were blase about this monster and the british love a good comeuppance story iirc, sunak is all they have now

imago, Sunday, 3 May 2020 12:35 (four years ago) link

All those numbers are saying: "Herd immunity was a joke but I'm on furlough with most of my salary/mortgage holiday" etc. xp

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 May 2020 12:36 (four years ago) link

Whatever makes you feel better.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 May 2020 12:37 (four years ago) link

sunak and brexit, that is

lol

imago, Sunday, 3 May 2020 12:38 (four years ago) link

psyched that we’re gonna officially overtake the italian death toll in the next day or two, let’s fuckin’ show johnny eu how it’s done just before we pull the hard brexit ripcord

Whatever makes you feel better.

― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 May 2020 bookmarkflaglink

This is not a feeling, just how I think it might play out.

Like I said yesterday almost everyone in every country (bar maybe Brazil and the US) is backing the current government and what they do. It's not about the Tories being infallible but you do you.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 May 2020 13:01 (four years ago) link

how do people keep their faith in the great british public (a mostly powerless minority aside) eventually "getting it", now, in light of the past decade or few?

What's (Left), Sunday, 3 May 2020 13:05 (four years ago) link

Who mentioned anything about the Tories being infallible btw?

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 May 2020 13:08 (four years ago) link

Lol

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 May 2020 13:11 (four years ago) link

I think people get it when they can't pay their bills.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 May 2020 13:12 (four years ago) link

Absolutely no point making any predictions about the next election, we're in the middle of a once-a-century upheaval and no one has any idea how it's going to play out.

I do think people are underestimating quite how bad the recession is going to be though, modern economies aren't meant to just be stopped for months on end, we're in uncharted territory but it's going to make 2008 and onwards look like a walk in the park.

Matt DC, Sunday, 3 May 2020 13:12 (four years ago) link

Like I said yesterday almost everyone in every country (bar maybe Brazil and the US) is backing the current government and what they do.

About that.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXFmEvhWkAAlmuR?format=jpg&name=small

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 May 2020 13:14 (four years ago) link

I don't get the sense the French or Spanish government are going to fall.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 May 2020 13:16 (four years ago) link

And yet you get the sense that the British goverment is going to.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 May 2020 13:20 (four years ago) link


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