love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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72% of #NHS staff who have died of #Covid-19 were of BAME origin.
17% of NHS staff are BAME.

— Simon Lennane (@DrSimonLennane) April 14, 2020

fuck it (Left), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:44 (four years ago) link

I'd love to know the stats on how many of these fucking happy clappers are quite friendly with yack yack and farage

calzino, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:52 (four years ago) link

presumably why our esteemed press aren't stepping on the govt's throat about this
xp

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:54 (four years ago) link

scum

EXC: A number of Labour staffers tried to stop the party’s workplace Unite branch sending letters of solidarity to Diane Abbott, Dawn Butler and Clive Lewis - all of whom were named in the leaked internal report as victims of racism and racial profiling https://t.co/wdmy0wdAif

— Shehab Khan (@ShehabKhan) April 15, 2020

fuck it (Left), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:54 (four years ago) link

the official line of this opposition party is we must support the government's programme of racialised mass murder

fuck it (Left), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:57 (four years ago) link

"opposition party" ? them days are gone now :(

calzino, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 21:02 (four years ago) link

why did corbyn nominate mcnicol for a peerage anyway? he's absolute scum. his presence in the panorama doc was stomach-turning

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 21:07 (four years ago) link

too timid & 'labour to his core' for his own good the dozy bastard

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 21:08 (four years ago) link

I get why people wouldn't want to reuse face masks but why can't they be washed and reused?

Like if two happy birthdays of hand washing protects me how does it not work on PPE?

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 21:17 (four years ago) link

Lewis Goodall’s thread about ICU is otm

Talked to a few doctors on #covid19 frontline this evening about excess beds/capacity issues the govt spoke about today

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) April 15, 2020

gyac, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 21:18 (four years ago) link

Based on the fact that people I respect like Laura Parker supported him, was willing to keep an open mind about KS, but dere god

Serious question: Have you ever seen a major political party come up with a set of weaker demands? https://t.co/M6rZm8O59i

— Michael Walker (@michaeljswalker) April 15, 2020

Piedie Gimbel, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 21:50 (four years ago) link

they are doing a fucking cracking job there apparently!

calzino, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 21:58 (four years ago) link

Walker’s follow up tweet is interesting:

“ Sometimes if I don’t have much time to prepare for a podcast I just draft fairly open questions safe in knowledge my guest knows a lot. It’s not the best way to host an podcast. It’s a terrible way to act as the official opposition!”

Possibly giving Starmer too much credit but this looks very consistent with a prosecutorial line of questioning - open with something fairly neutral to get information you can then pick apart. The big problem is that, outside of a Parliamentary debate, the government doesn’t have any pressure whatsoever to actually answer any questions, they can just ignore them or say ‘it’s not the time to discuss it’.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 21:59 (four years ago) link

*Possibly*

calzino, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 22:02 (four years ago) link

mcnicol gone from the lord's, real shame the cunt won't be executed.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 22:02 (four years ago) link

Has he gone from the Lords or just been removed as Labour Whip?

ShariVari, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 22:06 (four years ago) link

tt on that Labour communication just up there: "wow, that is powerfully weak"

gotta say, so far so good as far as the starmer predictions itt are going :/

unless mcnicol's been exiled to novaya zemlya, that'd be something

when I come out, can you introduce me as Jagger (imago), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 22:09 (four years ago) link

Stepping down before being pushed?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 22:12 (four years ago) link

He's 'stepping down' or 'standing aside' and a do-si-do..

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 22:13 (four years ago) link

Shame they haven’t suspended him already.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 22:14 (four years ago) link

Starmer's got to follow his procedure ofc..

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 22:17 (four years ago) link

Stan knows where it’s at.

A fucking badge?

The French have literally just given €1500 to those on the front line in health care and we're giving out fucking badges?

What the!!

— Stan Collymore (@StanCollymore) April 15, 2020

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 22:18 (four years ago) link

"These politically crooked officials were prepared to risk dramatic damage to the interests of the British economy and working people just in order to scratch their factional itch.”

quite at odds with Starmer's account of events of the Corbyn era. it's almost eerily like he's part of a faction himself

calzino, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 22:20 (four years ago) link

I think people have got to stop re-running the debate between globalists and nationalists.

think gordon brown is in for a shock if he thinks all this palaver is going to mute that debate. while we'll definitely need co-ordinated international action, with the closing of borders, suspicions about foreigners (5G, "the chinese virus" etc) it will probably retrench a type of extreme national solidarity which could mutate into a toxic nationalism if allowed

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Thursday, 16 April 2020 07:12 (four years ago) link

“Being isolated, people realise the need to be connected, the importance they attach to friendship, the importance of acting as a community.”

I mean I think that's right, it's just 'community' can have various very different meanings within that debate

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Thursday, 16 April 2020 07:14 (four years ago) link

Journalists should stop asking about an ‘exit strategy.’ There is only one way we can ‘exit’ full lockdown and that is when we have a vaccine. Until then, we need to find ways we can adapt society and strike a balance between the health of the nation and our economy . #COVID19

— Nadine Dorries 🇬🇧 (@NadineDorries) April 15, 2020

"Prof Neil Ferguson, whose modelling has guided Downing Street’s crisis strategy, this morning told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme that when the UK lockdown does eventually end, social distancing measures are likely to remain in place “indefinitely” until a coronavirus vaccine can be rolled out.

Ferguson warned that it would not be possible to relax the lockdown until a significant infrastructure was in place.

He said the UK’s ability to come out of lockdown would “depend on how quickly case numbers go down”. But it would also require an emphasis on scaling up testing and contact tracing, because if measures were relaxed without a strong plan in place there was too much risk of a resurgence in cases."

I'm sure this is right but am struggling to conceptualise what 'indefinite social distancing' means in practice.

Aside from that, The Guardian suggests that there's no central planning on easing restrictions and different departments are running with their own projected timelines / plans - which is likely to continue at least until Johnson comes back to work.

ShariVari, Thursday, 16 April 2020 08:52 (four years ago) link

I'm sure this is right but am struggling to conceptualise what 'indefinite social distancing' means in practice.

'we'll continue sacrificing essential workers in a slightly more controlled fashion until science saves us' is basically how i break it down to an extent

He is married to Brogmus, Linda. (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 16 April 2020 08:55 (four years ago) link

it would also require an emphasis on scaling up testing and contact tracing

that would mean scaling up contact tracing from essentially zero since the government chose to abandon it before they'd even really started

He is married to Brogmus, Linda. (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 16 April 2020 08:58 (four years ago) link

I think that's probably correct but...also sacrificing pretty much everyone else?

You can't have social distancing and, idk, commuting, using public transport, running schools and universities as normal, etc. I find it hard to imagine it's going to mean anything other than 'if you have the luxury of working from home, you can, otherwise get on with it'.

ShariVari, Thursday, 16 April 2020 09:01 (four years ago) link

yeah i think it's becoming increasingly undeniable that herd immunity remains the government's strategy, just stretched out over time instead of taking boris' suicidal 'take it on the chin' approach

He is married to Brogmus, Linda. (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 16 April 2020 09:02 (four years ago) link

think gordon brown is in for a shock if he thinks all this palaver is going to mute that debate. while we'll definitely need co-ordinated international action, with the closing of borders, suspicions about foreigners (5G, "the chinese virus" etc) it will probably retrench a type of extreme national solidarity which could mutate into a toxic nationalism if allowed

I don't think he's saying that, if anything he's warning against it. And I agree with you that this is probably the way it's going to go but there will be currents in both directions, in the UK at least. It might be moot anyway because the question of when you can practically and safely open borders again is not going to be answered for a while, even in Schengen countries.

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 April 2020 09:04 (four years ago) link

In the absence of a vaccine you can't relax social distancing measures without either widespread and effective testing or public access to any antivirals that might significantly reduce the severity of the infection. The longer the government continues to fuck about on testing the more impatient people are going to be to get out of their houses, especially if they can see it happening in other, better organised countries. All this goodwill isn't going to last.

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 April 2020 09:10 (four years ago) link

different departments are running with their own projected timelines / plans - which is likely to continue at least until Johnson comes back to work.

― ShariVari,Thursday, 16 April 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Why does Johnson returning to work matter here?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 April 2020 09:13 (four years ago) link

It's incredible how contact tracing has just...not been part of the conversation in regards to the UK response.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 April 2020 09:14 (four years ago) link

was the NHS app that's being developed not supposed to have anonymised phone-to-phone contact tracing as its USP?

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Thursday, 16 April 2020 09:15 (four years ago) link

Why does Johnson returning to work matter here?

No one is even nominally coordinating them and no one is trusted to make any decisions.

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 April 2020 09:19 (four years ago) link

Most of the handwringing about what responsibilities Raab does or does not have mostly came from Tory backbenchers and centred around whether or not he would be authorised to take the UK to war over the next couple of weeks or what he would do in the event of an attack on the UK, which tells you a lot about how phenomenally stupid these people are.

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 April 2020 09:24 (four years ago) link

I would've thought the head of the civil service could be coordinating plans from various departments.

Ultimately their execution or otherwise would be up to cabinet/johnson but I don't know enough here.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 April 2020 09:35 (four years ago) link

Stupid, war-horny, tomayto, tomahto.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 16 April 2020 10:17 (four years ago) link

Choose your fighter pic.twitter.com/RUDAlLfoyy

— Marine A Hyde (@spagbolshevism) April 15, 2020

I compare my cooking to the 2nd miles davis quintet, and these fules to shed 7!

calzino, Thursday, 16 April 2020 10:22 (four years ago) link

you should see the fn glorious bread i've been baking

plax (ico), Thursday, 16 April 2020 10:42 (four years ago) link

black market flour

plax (ico), Thursday, 16 April 2020 10:43 (four years ago) link

Stupid, war-horny, tomayto, tomahto.

― Andrew Farrell,Thursday, 16 April 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Is this in the wrong thread?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 April 2020 10:45 (four years ago) link

We’ve got chicken tonight. Strangest damn things. They’re man-made. Roasted on top of a baguette. Very nice!

Microbes oft teem (wins), Thursday, 16 April 2020 10:49 (four years ago) link

That chicken guy is a legend in food Twitter circles. All his cooking looks disgusting and he's a noted creep.

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 April 2020 10:52 (four years ago) link

lol at ‘marine a hyde’

He is married to Brogmus, Linda. (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 16 April 2020 10:52 (four years ago) link

you can't beat a good piece of incinerated baguette completely saturated in chicken fat!

calzino, Thursday, 16 April 2020 10:54 (four years ago) link


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