love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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Fucking hell they've dug Patel out from beneath her rock for today's briefing, tell the gammon!

sonatas and interludes for prepaid nando's (Matt #2), Saturday, 11 April 2020 15:04 (four years ago) link

she says they've done 300,034,974,000 tests.. that is impressive.

calzino, Saturday, 11 April 2020 15:58 (four years ago) link

we're doing great numbers, great numbers of tests, very clever doctors are telling me they've never seen such great numbers, really good tests, everybody's saying how good the tests are [fade to theme from Casualty]

Pliny O'Toole (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 April 2020 15:59 (four years ago) link

Catmo is a total hypocrite obvs.

santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 11 April 2020 16:02 (four years ago) link

Patel can presumably come out of storage as her bullying report, which was meant to come out yesterday, has been delayed a few weeks.

ShariVari, Saturday, 11 April 2020 16:04 (four years ago) link

i’m sorry if anyone is offended by my burning desire to see the entire british cabinet eased feet-first into a woodchipper one-by-one

Patel, when pressed to apologise to NHS workers over a lack of personal protective equipment, couldn’t quite do it. She said:

I’m sorry if people feel that there have been failings.

After being asked twice if she would apologise to NHS staff and their families over the lack of “necessary PPE” that has been linked to NHS workers becoming infected and dying, she said:

I’ve been very clear in what I have said and I’m sorry that people feel that way.

force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 11 April 2020 16:26 (four years ago) link

never apologise, never explain. never give a shit.

Pliny O'Toole (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 April 2020 16:31 (four years ago) link

can vouch that wc1 is a desert, have been going there for walks as islington is full of dimwit twentysomethings who hog the pavement holding hands and have seemingly not realised there's a pandemic.

plax (ico), Saturday, 11 April 2020 16:32 (four years ago) link

what is alarming about the current situation is not that thugs like patel, raab etc exist. there will always be craven lunatics searching for power and with little regard for anything else, but that they can reach such high office and once there have no accountability whatsoever is deeply concerning.

plax (ico), Saturday, 11 April 2020 16:33 (four years ago) link

otm, the most broken thing about our wonderful "system" over the last two to three years (and arguably a long time before that but hey) has been the absence of restraint or control on the executive. even the logjam over Brexit was incapable of anything more than, well, a temporary logjam

Pliny O'Toole (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 April 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link

i mean "decency" and "honour" were fucking bullshit or they wouldn't have disappeared so easily, but the faux shocked reaction of the pundit class to the way that a government can just discard that shit and literally do what the fuck they wanna do given the votes is

i don't have the words, it's not like i ever thought parliamentary democracy was more than a sham anyway

Pliny O'Toole (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 April 2020 16:40 (four years ago) link

My neighbourhood's WhatsApp group has been fine, but I guess Cambridge is a bit different. Nobody even mentioned Boris.


From another Cambridge neighbourhood: mostly fine apart from one well-meaning but slightly racist comment the other night, which did get called out (by a Lib Dem councillor!) and led to a relatively benign and positive exchange. Given that the subject was travellers, far better than I would have expected tbh

Microbes oft teem (wins), Saturday, 11 April 2020 17:07 (four years ago) link

we had a maybe stereotypical encounter with some irish travellers a couple of years ago. they came to the door and offered to clean and sand the patio, my wife had no idea who they were or what they wanted and said she would ask me. Then the next day they just came and did it, my father-in-law was at home and he speaks no english, he thought they were from the council or something, then they presented him with a bill for £600. I talked to the guy and said I wasn't going to pay it (aside from anything else it's a rented house and I don't have £600 to spare) he was not at all happy but didn't threaten me.

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 11 April 2020 17:41 (four years ago) link

My mum who is Irish herself paid this dodgy lad a small sum to take a few branches off a tree at the front. He had a business card with his mobile number so to her that made him a consummate Pro! One of the branches he carelessly cut took out the neighbour's BT line and before he made a fast exit he was asking if she could give him the card back!

calzino, Saturday, 11 April 2020 17:50 (four years ago) link

Oh, I remember you saying that at the time (or thereabouts) (if it was you..) it seemed like a dangerous standpoint, but hey I wasn't there. (xpost)

Mark G, Saturday, 11 April 2020 17:51 (four years ago) link

look they only threatened to pepper spray the guy taking food to vulnerable relatives, what more do you expect them to do

force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 11 April 2020 19:15 (four years ago) link

"de-arrested" is not a word that tv cops say much

mark s, Saturday, 11 April 2020 19:36 (four years ago) link

An extensive internal investigation into the way Labour handled antisemitism complaints will not be submitted to the Equality and Human Rights Commission, after an intervention by party lawyers.

The 860-page report, seen by Sky News, concluded factional hostility towards Jeremy Corbyn amongst former senior officials contributed to "a litany of mistakes" that hindered the effective handling of the issue.

The investigation, which was completed in the last month of Jeremy Corbyn's leadership, claims to have found "no evidence" of antisemitism complaints being treated differently to other forms of complaint, or of current or former staff being "motivated by antisemitic intent".

https://news.sky.com/story/labour-antisemitism-investigation-will-not-be-sent-to-equality-commission-11972071

ShariVari, Saturday, 11 April 2020 20:09 (four years ago) link

Conversations in which the same group refers to Mr. Corbyn's former chief of staff Karie Murphy as "medusa", a "crazy woman" and a "bitch face cow" that would "make a good dartboard"

ShariVari, Saturday, 11 April 2020 20:11 (four years ago) link

love to see that "plurality of voices" coming back to the party and the bullying Corbyn era ending.

calzino, Saturday, 11 April 2020 20:13 (four years ago) link

well if i was in any doubt about cancelling that direct debit before now

force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 11 April 2020 20:18 (four years ago) link

Wow. Somehow it's even worse than I thought.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 11 April 2020 20:18 (four years ago) link

factional hostility towards Jeremy Corbyn amongst former senior officials contributed to "a litany of mistakes" that hindered the effective handling of the issue

this isn't quite the picture Starmer painted at the Jewish hustings during the leadership election.

calzino, Saturday, 11 April 2020 20:21 (four years ago) link

just heard Nick Thomas-Symonds being interviewed on the radio, he was shit

Pliny O'Toole (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 April 2020 20:33 (four years ago) link

never apologise, never explain. never give a shit.

― Pliny O'Toole (Noodle Vague), Saturday, April 11, 2020 5:31 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

yes, when I heard that crap on the radio i involuntarily shouted out 'so what are you doing about it then, do your fckng job'

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Sunday, 12 April 2020 06:16 (four years ago) link

"de-arrested" is not a word that tv cops say much


“GET UP OF THE GODDAM FLOOR! NOW!”
“HANDS DOWN! PUT YOUR HANDS *DOWN*!”
“GET BACK IN THE MOTHERFUCKIN CAR AND DRIVE OFF! QUICKLY!”

Fizzles, Sunday, 12 April 2020 07:43 (four years ago) link

that report is both entirely in detail quite staggering. plenty of wtf examples in the excerpt here:

The whatsapp messages, which the report claims were leaked to the investigation by one of the group's members, show the private conversations of senior party managers & staff in Labour's Southside HQ during the time of Lord McNicol's tenure as general secretary - they reveal: pic.twitter.com/c6BA0xplGL

— Tom Rayner (@RaynerSkyNews) April 11, 2020



this one, as the rodent says, is wild:

Ooft, hadn’t clocked this one - that’s an extremely serious allegation and if there’s evidence for it, it’s very definitely in the public interest for it to be released. pic.twitter.com/gDp5bkhR8b

— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) April 11, 2020



particularly since, iirc, the slowness of processing complaints was one of the main sticks used to beat corbyn by the less hysterical commentators, and a key part of the narrative.

Fizzles, Sunday, 12 April 2020 07:49 (four years ago) link

‘now is not the time to ask difficult questions’

*18 months passes*

‘now is not the time to dwell on the past’

The leader of the Labour party, Keir Starmer, has said now is “not the time to ask difficult questions” on whether the government was too slow to act on the coronavirus crisis, but said more scrutiny of decisions is needed.

“I challenge the government hard on this, not just to score a point, but to fix it,” said Starmer on Sophy Ridge on Sunday, adding that challenging questions will need to be asked in future.

“I’m trying to resist calls for apologies or criticising past decisions. I will work with the government on this, we will support them in trying to get this right.”

force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 12 April 2020 08:10 (four years ago) link

look asking for accountability of those responsible for the decisions that have killed 10,000 people in the uk in the last few weeks is the old politics

force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 12 April 2020 08:13 (four years ago) link

and yes, tens of thousands more will die in the coming weeks, but now more than ever what we need to do is resist the urge to sit on park benches

force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 12 April 2020 08:14 (four years ago) link

ah, it's another grand day for ruining ilx

où sont les threads d'antan? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 12 April 2020 08:44 (four years ago) link

I'm basically a lame placeholder who serves no purpose other than reassuring the establishment everything's cool now - the opposition is gone says Sir Kier. If he fell down a sinkhole and was never seen again who'd fucking notice?

calzino, Sunday, 12 April 2020 08:51 (four years ago) link

Because how politics works - the leader of the Labour Party asks the tories to be a bit nicer and they listen and act accordingly then everything turns out OK. Real opposition - the adults are back.

calzino, Sunday, 12 April 2020 08:56 (four years ago) link

The Private Godfrey of Dad's Army Britain.

Meanwhile thousands of people have no money and nothing to eat.

où sont les threads d'antan? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 12 April 2020 08:59 (four years ago) link

1.5 million according to latest YouGov polling. As in people going a whole day without proper nutrition. Anyone there Kier?

calzino, Sunday, 12 April 2020 09:02 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVWtSLEXgAEG-oy?format=jpg&name=medium

this bumpf from last month seems embarrassing now, but much of how the media are dealing with is not going to age well. Constantly spinning a fictional narrative straight from cchq while a thousand are dying a day.

calzino, Sunday, 12 April 2020 09:26 (four years ago) link

can't blame the government for this stuff calz, it's an act of god

où sont les threads d'antan? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 12 April 2020 09:35 (four years ago) link

ah, it's another grand day for ruining ilx


https://media.tenor.com/images/4e1f1338392a03030c517a52a92f0e09/tenor.gif

force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 12 April 2020 09:47 (four years ago) link

FAN SERVICE ENSURES CITIZENSHIP

où sont les threads d'antan? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 12 April 2020 09:52 (four years ago) link

There is paywalled piece in today's Times where some Cambridge think tank academics are saying if the death rate spirals out of control this could end up breaking up the UK. Starmer might be treading on egg shells but I bet Sturgeon won't be scared of "politicising" the UK government's clown shoes bungling of this pandemic from the start.

calzino, Sunday, 12 April 2020 09:54 (four years ago) link

DO YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE LESS

force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 12 April 2020 09:54 (four years ago) link

Sturgeon is in a different position to Starmer in that she's actually in power rather than in opposition and can make decisions that have a concrete effect. I don't know the extent to which Scottish policy has diverged up to now but if the situation deteriorates north of the border then her name is on it as well.

Matt DC, Sunday, 12 April 2020 10:10 (four years ago) link

she did hang the chief medical officer so at least she's tough on lockdowns

où sont les threads d'antan? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 12 April 2020 10:11 (four years ago) link

she also took the bold step of refusing to suck the fingers of an entire ward of coronavirus patients, unlike boris

force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 12 April 2020 10:13 (four years ago) link

going back a bit, no answers for this?

Also, while we are here, and without naming names, why do melts consider Jeremy Corbyn ‘arrogant’? IDGI.

― santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, April 11, 2020 2:41 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Sunday, 12 April 2020 10:25 (four years ago) link

i answered

où sont les threads d'antan? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 12 April 2020 10:27 (four years ago) link

had the unconscionable temerity to be correct for 40 years

force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 12 April 2020 10:30 (four years ago) link

it's as simple as "comfortably bourgeois people don't like to be accused of being beastly, don't want to have any money taken off them"

où sont les threads d'antan? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 12 April 2020 10:32 (four years ago) link

whether Corbs was a bit of an old prig/bore who i'd happily argue with from the left and from intersectional perspectives is a different question, but i'm pretty sure that wasn't the E4 Celebrity Massive's issue with him

où sont les threads d'antan? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 12 April 2020 10:33 (four years ago) link


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