love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

xp up to clissold park from angel via st pauls rd/highbury new park and then back down via green lanes/southgate road. although a little more aimlessly.

Wishing grandness for plax.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUMHui4WkAAGyJb?format=jpg&name=900x900

‘A warm wish of speedy recovery for Boris Johnson and good luck to the great British people who are the first in the world to experiment with herd immunity starting with the shepherd!’

From La Repubblica

^ aye, that’s awful Plax

Xp

Oh yeah, hope everything works out Plax, don't let the bastards grind you down.

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Germany conducts 500,000 tests in a week, Sky News reports. The British government is aiming to be testing 10,000 per day by tomorrow.

(all the best plax btw)

aye, but nobody is clapping them, always the sign of a poorly funded health service.

sorry plax, all the best

good news folks, no need to worry about getting more ventilators because half of the people who need them are gonna die anyway

The mortality rate for patients put in intensive care after being infected with Covid-19 is running at close to 50%, a report has revealed.

Data from the Intensive Care National Audit and Research Centre (ICNARC) showed that of 165 patients treated in critical care in England, Wales and Northern Ireland since the end of February, 79 died, while 86 survived and were discharged. The figures were taken from an audit of 775 people who have been or are in critical care with the disease, across 285 intensive care units. The remaining 610 patients continue to receive intensive care.

The high death rate raises questions about how effective critical care will be in saving the lives of people struck down by the disease. As a top priority, the NHS is opening field hospitals in London, Birmingham and Manchester, which will incorporate some of the biggest critical care units ever seen in Britain.

“The truth is that quite a lot of these individuals [in critical care] are going to die anyway and there is a fear that we are just ventilating them for the sake of it, for the sake of doing something for them, even though it won’t be effective. That’s a worry,” one doctor said.

take care plax! how much is a concertina btw?

a more conspiracy-minded person than i might question just how and why these stories which seem to exonerate the government’s lackadaisical approach to coronavirus response isn’t an issue because sufferers were gonna die anyway are popping up in the legendarily supine uk press over the last couple of days

Tbf I have read that elsewhere about ventilators because it’s a very high risk procedure? Will try to find a link.

As ever the appeal of 'people will die anyway' to people who do not understand what death is

look, life has a 100% mortality rate, trying to keep people from avoidable deaths during a pandemic is the old politics

aren’t we all dead, really?

Please @guardian don’t throw basic statistics out of the window just to get a scary headline. 79 deaths out of 775 ICU patients is not a 50% survival rate. You can’t just consider the deaths and the discharges and ignore those receiving continuing care! https://t.co/yrMVIq90lD

— stuart mcdonald (@ActuaryByDay) March 28, 2020

aren’t we all dead, really?

― extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Saturday, 28 March 2020 21:33 (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

*crossly taps the dec 21 2012 mayan calendar sign*

my man

extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac)
Posted: 28 March 2020 at 20:02:17
Honestly so glad for this thread and all who sail in it

enjoy your scurvy everyone

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/mar/28/fruit-and-veg-will-run-out-unless-britain-charters-planes-to-fly-in-farm-workers-from-eastern-europe

and suddenly we find that the demonised unskilled labourers from the eu are actually key workers after all

Sorry to hear that, plax.

xp up to clissold park from angel via st pauls rd/highbury new park and then back down via green lanes/southgate road. although a little more aimlessly.

That's a nice walk - did you hit the road around there with the animal topiary?

American ilx is quite inescapably melt-ascendant

I don't really think that stands up though? Particularly not in this case, which started with something that'd be over the line here and then got more batshit. I believe silby's on their second tempban in two weeks, and tbh that sounds like a good idea?

That road is Kelross, I think? I still have some photos from around there.

I'm wondering if we'll get to "Congratulations, non-key worker, you are confirmed immune! Turn up at this address for your new life as a delivery driver / farm worker / food packer"

xp that's the one!

Do north London born/living ilxors all inhabit the same stretch of Islington/Hackney or are we just really predictable

Prime minister Boris Johnson is set to warn British citizens that the worst of coronavirus is yet to come, and that tougher measures may be necessary. The UK’s 30 million households will receive a letter from the prime minister including the warning, along with details of the government’s orders on social distancing, symptoms and handwashing.

pls dont send me that

I did crop-cutting in the early 90's when they'd bus Inglis degenerates from council estates in Yorkshire to remote parts of Southport to cut Cauliflowers and Cabbages for £3.84 an hour and full bennies*

*the bennies were unlimited free high quality fresh air

British tourist trapped in India complaining that locals are treating foreigners with suspicion and assuming they're all carrying the virus

*Tom looks up from his newspaper*

my machete technique with sprouts was up there with the elite of the cropcutters

xps no I checked and it stand up

wonder how many foreign thumbs have been casually lost in the gentle sprout fields of england

xps - I think it used to be on Jen's walk from her work to come see me, so once or twice when we went for a saunter she'd take me down there to see the animals. Clissold's not our closest park or anything but she goes down there to see the excellent dogs, she loves a good walk (see also: an hour-long walking commute). I try not to think too much about what comes after this, because you could go mad quite quickly, but a big walk as soon as possible is on the list.

One for your other thread, but there'll definitely be people who freak out the first time they have to go on a tube, and she's pretty certain she's going to be one of them.

there was this keen as mustard fellow, who when it was a bleak -5 frosty morning would say quite emotionally "ahhh! those sprouts will be thriving in these conditions!"

I'd love to do some crop-cutting again tbh. Just to work a bit off the beer gut and get in touch with the land and all that. The only vehicle I have ever driven is a tractor as well!

I hate the idea that bringing in vital agricultural produce has been so fucking denigrated by a capitalist system that most of this country think they are too fucking good to do it. I've nothing but respect for people do that vital job but fucking pay them right as well ffs!

rough job too. only ever grown my own but a whole day of doing that and my back's knackered for the week

you see that is why we need collective farms :p

could you imagine a campaign to clap our mostly Eastern European agricultural working force that help prevent famine and scurvy? That would be such a big success!

Clap them in irons more like.

All those commiserating with plax: getting furloughed isn't that bad really is it? I got furloughed last week but my employer is making up the difference and paying 100% of my contracted hours. I'd say it's the least of my worries right now (tho that may be partly because I hate my job)

Furloughed? Is that American for laid off?

nah think it's just when your job is put in airplane mode and you get 80% of your wage. laid off = dundo innit

Never heard it used before.

Originally, layoff referred exclusively to a temporary interruption in work, or employment[3] but this has evolved to a permanent elimination of a position in both British and US English

... I still thought it meant this. I'm right naive, me.

Not sure Johnson's entreaties to observe the lockdown better have the ring of authenticity about them, still blitz spirit and all that, just pretend the bugs are doodlebugs and we'll be blacking out the windows before you know it. Not to mention fast-tracking the production of powdered egg and lard so the grocer can tick them off in our ration books (blue, naturally).

For second time, President Trump has said that on call with PM yesterday, before he could even get a word out of him, he asked for ventilators - context being President saying the US production ramp up can’t make too many, as UK & others also need them pic.twitter.com/nm00IqS6pj

— Faisal Islam (@faisalislam) March 29, 2020

thanks for the well wishes everyone. it has been heartening.

Good luck Plax.