An Italian view of Britain's virus response: It's been a slow motion train crash, says @FerdiGiugliano https://t.co/8XWXFk2Pkx via @bopinion— Jonathan Hopkin (@jrhopkin) March 25, 2020
― calzino, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 11:38 (four years ago) link
Harley Street doing its magic for the rich and celebs as usual. The Royals have permanent medical staff and can get checked out on demand.
― santa clause four (suzy), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 11:39 (four years ago) link
Twitter full of grovelling twats defending him
― Two Gentlemen with the Rona (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 11:42 (four years ago) link
Crazy Dom makes a great spectre of death
They should give him the full Seventh Seal make-up, he's a natural
― Two Gentlemen with the Rona (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 11:43 (four years ago) link
But Chris Whitty, the U.K.’s chief medical officer, and Patrick Vallance, its chief scientific adviser, share the blame. It is normal for politicians to dither as they try to balance different interests — above all, keeping the economy humming. But why were the official scientists not screaming from the rooftop? Did they get their advice wrong, or did they fail to speak truth to power and to the public?
fucking gallows for these cunts
― calzino, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 11:45 (four years ago) link
If that's Whitty on the TV advert he looks like they've strung him up already
― Two Gentlemen with the Rona (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 11:47 (four years ago) link
This "might just work" shite from the same people who brought you herd immunity and ramping up testing and keeping the schools open is low risk.
We're a fortnight from wishing we were Italy.
― Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 11:48 (four years ago) link
_But Chris Whitty, the U.K.’s chief medical officer, and Patrick Vallance, its chief scientific adviser, share the blame. It is normal for politicians to dither as they try to balance different interests — above all, keeping the economy humming. But why were the official scientists not screaming from the rooftop? Did they get their advice wrong, or did they fail to speak truth to power and to the public?_fucking gallows for these cunts
― felt jute gyte delete later (wins), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 11:50 (four years ago) link
It’s Iraq all over again. You get the legal or medical advice that fits whatever you were going to do in the first place.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 11:55 (four years ago) link
First you get the rona, then you get the power, then you get the corpses
― Two Gentlemen with the Rona (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 11:57 (four years ago) link
Thing is, even now, a complete lockdown and hoping the infection burns itself by midsummer with the minimum possible number of deaths and strain on the health service is still only going to work long-term if the UK closes its borders until the discovery of a vaccine. I'm not sure ANY country has a viable exit strategy yet, as we will probably find if and when this lets rip in China again.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 11:59 (four years ago) link
Yeah magical thinking seems to be endemic
― felt jute gyte delete later (wins), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:01 (four years ago) link
What difference is closing the borders going to make long term as long as community transmission still happens?
― consultant haste (gyac), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:02 (four years ago) link
Corbyn’s last pmqs :( I’m going to miss him.
― consultant haste (gyac), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:05 (four years ago) link
Community transmission would presumably be prevented to some extent by a major lockdown and the hope that the existing carriers develop immunity in the meantime. But my general point is that even the most draconian of measures don't extend much further than "lock everything down and hope for the best". Especially when there's not enough testing and what exists isn't that reliable.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:06 (four years ago) link
Sure, but it’s other countries going to be locking their doors to the UK, rather than vice versa. Border closures don’t matter much when people aren’t doing lockdown properly.
― consultant haste (gyac), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:08 (four years ago) link
Corbyn talking about care workers not being able to get food for their clients. Now calling out NHS staff having to ask DIY shops for PPE on twitter.
― consultant haste (gyac), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:09 (four years ago) link
Watching Jez here too.
― santa clause four (suzy), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:10 (four years ago) link
I'm not sure ANY country has a viable exit strategy yet, as we will probably find if and when this lets rip in China again
Yeah. I can still see why they wanted to take the herd immunity route first; it still seems like the only thing that is halfway sustainable to the end. (But also they went about it so ineptly and communicated it so awfully that I'm not sure it can saved.)
― stet, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:11 (four years ago) link
FPing Corbyn for pronouncing it “med-cins”. Johnson does too.
― consultant haste (gyac), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:12 (four years ago) link
seems like a very fertile political moment for proponents of a UBI to get some actual, real-world traction
― ||||||||, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:34 (four years ago) link
ironically this is probably easier with the Tories in. Doesn't bear imagining how the blue ticks would be reacting right now to a left-wing govt providing left-wing solutions to this
― stet, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:35 (four years ago) link
Med-cin is RP pronunciation.
― santa clause four (suzy), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:40 (four years ago) link
Argh I just did an ‘ATM machine’ sorry everyone.
― santa clause four (suzy), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:41 (four years ago) link
What a lovely day! The perfect day to drive up into the #PeakDistrict for a walk, bike ride, climb or horse ride, isn’t it?No, actually it isn’t. pic.twitter.com/sNkgD2qSa3— Derbyshire Police (@DerbysPolice) March 25, 2020
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:49 (four years ago) link
"Is this cool? Is THIS cool?"
― nashwan, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:54 (four years ago) link
Unbelievably, we’ve just had to deal with 20+ people having a BBQ!! Please listen to government advice else this will get worse and will last longer!! #RIPBBQ #COVID19 #StayHome #Foleshill #Coventry pic.twitter.com/INhXbCjd05— Foleshill Police (@FoleshillWMP) March 24, 2020
lool pigs making an example of that burnt processed pork by using deadly force against a bbq!
― calzino, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:56 (four years ago) link
Like Jesus destroying the market outside the temple.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:57 (four years ago) link
can’t help wondering if boris’ boys’ sudden optimism might be related to ongoing brexit negotiations with the usa and trump’s new plan to commit viral genocide in the name of restarting the american stock market economy
― a struggle to make meat-snacking fit (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:59 (four years ago) link
xp The story is that no-one there was inclined to take a talking and overturning the barbecue seemed the easiest way to move them on. I mean, if it's that vs fines vs actually arresting anyone...
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:00 (four years ago) link
Lol some Tory asked about online delivery slots
― consultant haste (gyac), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:01 (four years ago) link
thank fuck someone is asking the hard questions
― a struggle to make meat-snacking fit (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:04 (four years ago) link
I'm just imagining cops like that bad 80's comedy duo: You see these sausages I'm about to stand on with my size 14 doc martens? This is what I think of your human rights you bleedin' scrote!
― calzino, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:08 (four years ago) link
JRM: God bless the Prince of Wales, some waffle about how the Queen’s actual birthday is the 21st April
― consultant haste (gyac), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:09 (four years ago) link
Yeah let's not be taking cops at their word
― Two Gentlemen with the Rona (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:10 (four years ago) link
The blame the public PR move looks to have been remarkably effective. https://t.co/SPuqa89iyh— Tom Mills (@ta_mills) March 25, 2020
― stet, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:10 (four years ago) link
Oh he’s paying tribute to Corbyn now. Not a single Labour MP apart from Valerie Vaz doing the same.
― consultant haste (gyac), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:11 (four years ago) link
as ppl have been saying on twitter, the british public does seem to have an unusually low opinion of the rest of the british public
― ogmor, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:12 (four years ago) link
The British Public: ‘how dare they tell me what to do! They should tell them over there what to do!’
― santa clause four (suzy), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:15 (four years ago) link
belief in the wider community's feckless, selfish venality is a key part of british identity
― ogmor, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:17 (four years ago) link
This is how governments get away with murdering poor people tbf
― Two Gentlemen with the Rona (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:23 (four years ago) link
the groundskeepers have come to mow the communal lawns for the block of flats, which is very nice and lovely and completely unnecessary, I'd have thought
at least they're able to keep well apart from a) each other (well, until they both get back into their van) b) anyone else
a self-conscious middle-class person writes: do people with less bad and shameful accents pronounce medicine as 3 syllables, or is -sɪn vs -sən the aspect in dispute here?
― a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:33 (four years ago) link
Can hear council lawnmowers here too
― kraudive, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:35 (four years ago) link
I usually go three syllables
― Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:36 (four years ago) link
They're still mowing the fairways on the council golf course at the top of the hill behind us, even though golf has effectively been banned
― ymo sumac (NickB), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:40 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbbOw-UMqDE
― mark s, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:41 (four years ago) link
so meddy-san is the MES-approved locution
surely there's an -ah on the end of that
― Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:42 (four years ago) link
no
― mark s, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:44 (four years ago) link