Pretend you have a ballot for the 2022 edition of Sight & Sound's top 10 movies of all time list

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Even those among us who, you know, actually may get one.

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Monday, 24 February 2020 17:25 (one month ago) link

Like how conservative or how totally idiosyncratic would you let your list get?

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Monday, 24 February 2020 17:25 (one month ago) link

I'd be tempted to only list movies from the last 20 years, just because recent movies have been underrepresented since the 1972 poll.

wasdnuos (abanana), Monday, 24 February 2020 18:06 (one month ago) link

I continue to wear out my favourite films--last time I watched Nashville, I knew I'd crossed the line (which doesn't mean I think it's any less great, I just lose that feeling of discovery or elation or whatever)--so I'd have to think about this. I know for sure Zodiac would be very high this time.

clemenza, Monday, 24 February 2020 18:16 (one month ago) link

Based on my two ballots for Film Twitter's annual "SHMIGHT & SHMOUND" polls, I'd likely be culling from this shortlist:

MAKE WAY FOR TOMORROW (McCarey)
DAISY KENYON (Preminger)
UN CHANT D'AMOUR (Genet)
DUCK AMUCK (Jones)
THE LADIES' MAN (Lewis)
LA JETÉE (Marker)
UNSERE AFRIKAREISE (Kubelka)
FEMALE TROUBLE (Waters)
THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE (Hooper)
TANGO (Rybczynski)
A BRIGHTER SUMMER DAY (Yang)
SHOWGIRLS (Verhoeven)
TASTE OF CHERRY (Kiarostami)
OUTER SPACE (Tscherkassky)
YI YI (Yang)
INLAND EMPIRE (Lynch)

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Monday, 24 February 2020 18:32 (one month ago) link

Aside from there being no Sirk or Dreyer there.

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Monday, 24 February 2020 18:34 (one month ago) link

THE LAST LAUGH (Murnau)
CITY LIGHTS (Chaplin)
THE MIRROR (Tarkovski)
JEANNE DIELMANN (Akermann)
HISTOIRE(S) DU CINEMA (Godard)
CLOSE UP (Kiarostami)
WERCKMEISTER HARMONIES (Tarr)
UNCLE BOONMEE (Weerasethakul)
STRAY DOGS (Tsai)
AMOUR FOU (Haussner)

Frederik B, Monday, 24 February 2020 18:50 (one month ago) link

w/out thinking much, first draft;

SHERLOCK JUNIOR
DUCK SOUP
L'ATALANTE
THE MIRACLE OF MORGAN'S CREEK
FIRES ON THE PLAIN
THE LEOPARD
BLACK GIRL
2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY
TRISTANA
THE MIRROR
A MOMENT OF INNOCENCE
MULHOLLAND DR.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 February 2020 19:01 (one month ago) link

I'd be tempted to only list movies from the last 20 years

I wouldn't, bcz narrative filmmakers are kinda out of ideas.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 February 2020 19:05 (one month ago) link

A list of non-narrative filmmaking from the last 20 years would be awesome, though

Frederik B, Monday, 24 February 2020 19:13 (one month ago) link

Duck Amuck 💜

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 24 February 2020 19:49 (one month ago) link

This reminds me of some ilx polls with 50 options, of which 32 each receive one vote and the poll winner receives two votes.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 24 February 2020 20:04 (one month ago) link

FIRES ON THE PLAIN

Good choice, but I was thinking The Burmese Harp would get my Ichikawa spot.

Miami weisse (WmC), Monday, 24 February 2020 22:40 (one month ago) link

my list would be absolute nonsense

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 24 February 2020 23:35 (one month ago) link

This reminds me of some ilx polls with 50 options, of which 32 each receive one vote and the poll winner receives two votes.

― A is for (Aimless), Monday, February 24, 2020

more like seeing ilxors' individual choices in the year-end polls, which I think is interesting

Dan S, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 00:31 (one month ago) link

Duck Amuck 💜

― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, February 24, 2020 2:49 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

The best film mentioned in this thread thus far.

Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 00:48 (one month ago) link

really like Tscherkassky's Outer Space

Dan S, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 00:53 (one month ago) link

alternate list bcz really, no Hitchcock on the last one

THE CROWD
LA CHIENNE
MODERN TIMES
LETTER FROM AN UNKNOWN WOMAN
EUROPA '51
NORTH BY NORTHWEST
THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE
POINT BLANK
CHINATOWN
FOX AND HIS FRIENDS
MIKEY AND NICKY
THE KING OF COMEDY

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 01:38 (one month ago) link

idg Duck Amuck, or why anyone would particularly care about it, fwiw.

Tscherkassky, yes!

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 01:40 (one month ago) link

/I'd be tempted to only list movies from the last 20 years/

I wouldn't, bcz narrative filmmakers are kinda out of ideas.

Yeah, have been drafting a new top 100 and I have 22 movies from the last 20 years, so.

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 04:07 (one month ago) link

Sorry, 18. Point taken.

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 04:10 (one month ago) link

BAD TIMING
SYNECDOCHE, NEW YORK
NEWS FROM HOME
TASTE OF CHERRY
CALIFORNIA SPLIT
IN A YEAR WITH 13 MOONS
SHADOW OF A DOUBT
LIFE IS SWEET
DISHONORED
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
THE DEER HUNTER
THE LAST PICTURE SHOW

flappy bird, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 05:48 (one month ago) link

MISHIMA: A LIFE IN FOUR CHAPTERS (Schrader)
PERSONA (Bergman)
REPULSION (Polanski)
LA JETÉE (Marker)
STALKER (Tarkovsky)
LA RÈGLE DU JEU (Renoir)
MELANCHOLIA (von Trier)
LIQUID SKY (Tsukerman)
UNDER THE SKIN (Glazer)
THE WHITE BALLOON (Panahi)
ORPHÉE (Cocteau)
BLACK NARCISSUS (Powell and Pressburger)

tangenttangent, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 10:02 (one month ago) link

Oh look, we only have three films in common! But one of them is Liquid Sky and that's what counts

2001: A Space Odyssey
Arabian Nights
Celine and Julie Go Boating
Hard To Be A God
Liquid Sky
Penda's Fen
Rear Window
Stalker
That Obscure Object Of Desire
The Rules Of The Game
Toni Erdmann
Watership Down

imago, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 10:48 (one month ago) link

Penda's Fen! right on

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:24 (one month ago) link

ty ty but as is clear, tt is the film expert in our house

imago, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 11:33 (one month ago) link

yes Eric, you see more recent greatness than I do*, that's why youre still in the arena

*do you? really? I can't even call Certified Copy great. It's... enough already.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:40 (one month ago) link

I don't understand why you *wouldn't* make an idiosyncratic list

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:40 (one month ago) link

Mishima is more or less my favourite movie so good work tt

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:41 (one month ago) link

A Brighter Summer Day
Lancelot Du Lac
Kiki's Delivery Service
Johnny Guitar
Le Rayon Vert
Late Autumn
Stray Dogs
Workers, Peasants
Rio Bravo
No Home Movie

devvvine, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:48 (one month ago) link

prediction for the poll: the searchers falls out of top 10, a brighter summer day enters the top 30

devvvine, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:48 (one month ago) link

Jeanne Dielmann should be top ten, more Akerman should enter the top 100

Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:53 (one month ago) link

Are all your 'ballots' ordered? Mine's alphabetical

Good old Lancelot would be on my longer list, nice choice

imago, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:54 (one month ago) link

Rewatched Andrei Rublev the other night and it's right up there

Andrei Rublev
Mishima
The Assassin
M or Mabuse the Gambler
For a Few Dollars More
Weekend
The Big Sleep
The Gospel According to St Matthew
Vertigo
Kikujiro

I dunno, top of my head, not ordered

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:56 (one month ago) link

Mine was attempted chronological. I only now realized I forgot A Matter of Life and Death. So delete either Boonmee or Amour Fou, I guess. Good thing I still have a couple of years.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:58 (one month ago) link

Jeanne Dielmann should be top ten, more Akerman should enter the top 100

Les Rendez-vous d'Anna svp

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:59 (one month ago) link

If I'd put any thought in there'd probably be a P&P in there, Black Narcissus or The Red Shoes

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:59 (one month ago) link

News From Home and No Home Movie could as well

Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 13:00 (one month ago) link

Eh, it'll change tomorrow/five minutes from now but fuckit:

Mulholland Drive (Lynch)
Tree of Life (Mallick)
Hausu (Obayashi)
Possession (Zulawski)
McCabe and Mrs. Miller (Altman)
Phantom of the Paradise (De Palma)
Stop Making Sense (Demme)
Five Easy Pieces (Rafelson)
The Innocents (Clayton)
Robot Monster (Tucker)

Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 13:07 (one month ago) link

mine was unordered

devvvine, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 13:08 (one month ago) link

Mine was unordered too, but yeah - Mishima pretty much top of the pack.

Le Rayon Vert v. close to making mine

tangenttangent, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 13:22 (one month ago) link

I've watched Mishima more than any other film and I will never tire of it

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 13:24 (one month ago) link

Summer Hours
Vagabond
The Turin Horse
The Lady Eve
Los Olvidados
Early Summer
Dead Ringers
Certified Copy
Strangers on a Train
The Merchant of Four Seasons
Pandora's Box

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 13:46 (one month ago) link

Oh shit I missed out L'Age d'Or and an Ozu to be decided

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 13:50 (one month ago) link

Late Spring?

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 13:51 (one month ago) link

Rublev and The Assassin are amazing to me in their ability/attempts to recreate the texture of the past, presentation of other worlds without trying to mediate them for modernity. Really love King Hu's Legend of the Mountain for similar reasons. They are transportive in amazing ways.

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 13:54 (one month ago) link

oh what the hell

Sunrise
Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Grave of the Fireflies
Les Rendez-vous d'Anna
Inland Empire
The Long Goodbye
Stalker
Point Blank
The Thin Blue Line
Audition

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 13:56 (one month ago) link

this is a ludicrous mind game

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 14:06 (one month ago) link

New board/life description

Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 14:09 (one month ago) link

Making lists is an art form

college bong rip guy (silby), Friday, 6 March 2020 16:59 (one month ago) link

That's the basic premise of this thread, yup.

crusty but malignant (Eric H.), Friday, 6 March 2020 17:04 (one month ago) link

He put his own movie on there?

flappy bird, Friday, 6 March 2020 17:05 (one month ago) link

Tsai ming-liang put Goodbye Dragon Inn on his last sight and sound ballot too

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Friday, 6 March 2020 17:17 (one month ago) link

A justifiable move.

crusty but malignant (Eric H.), Friday, 6 March 2020 17:17 (one month ago) link

2001: A Space Odyssey
Last Year at Marienbad
8 1/2
Apocalypse Now
Jeanne Dielman, 23, quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles
It’s a Wonderful Life
Blade Runner
In the Mood for Love
The Red Shoes
Andrei Rublev

Spencer Chow, Friday, 6 March 2020 17:23 (one month ago) link

What the hell is "the Kubrick Quartet"? Any block of four seems like a pretty arbitrary categorization.

Alba, Friday, 6 March 2020 17:28 (one month ago) link

Was wondering the same. Also, no Altman on PTA's list?

Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Friday, 6 March 2020 17:28 (one month ago) link

I didn't even notice that. What a dick!

crusty but malignant (Eric H.), Friday, 6 March 2020 17:30 (one month ago) link

prefers John Krasinski

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 March 2020 17:33 (one month ago) link

I'm something like 98% sure this list of movies wasn't generated from the prompt "name your all-time favorite movies, PTA."

crusty but malignant (Eric H.), Friday, 6 March 2020 17:40 (one month ago) link

Warming considerably to PTA over here.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 6 March 2020 17:45 (one month ago) link

I googled the phrase and the Cleveland Institute of Art Cinematheque had a program called A Stanley Kubrick Quartet in January. Killer's Kiss, The Killing, Barry Lyndon and Full Metal Jacket.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Miami weisse (WmC), Friday, 6 March 2020 17:56 (one month ago) link

https://www.indiewire.com/gallery/paul-thomas-anderson-favorite-films-movies/

Allegedly the quartet is: Dr. Strangelove, Lolita, Full Metal Jacket, The Shining.

Which, madness.

crusty but malignant (Eric H.), Friday, 6 March 2020 18:06 (one month ago) link

He becomes even less the good Anderson

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Friday, 6 March 2020 18:09 (one month ago) link

Regarding the conversation above re: canonization in film vs. music... I think film is inherently more democratic and universal because it has always been a popular art first. the cinema is a territory that a wider group of people share than any record store or venue. dozens upon dozens of sources and scenarios to see bands or hear their music: live concert, record store, friends bedroom, friends car, etc. but everyone m/l goes to the same movie theaters. there isn't as much aversion to "popular movies" as there is/was to "pop music" (and "popular movies" stretches from Star Wars to Schindler's List to They Shoot Horses, Don't They?). correct me if I'm wrong but I doubt many people ever said "I don't see popular movies" vs. "I don't listen to pop music."

So much of a musical education is actively seeking, groping in the dark, and discovering. One doesn't have to try as hard to seek out independent/arty/foreign cinema as say, a specific Wolf Eyes EP released in 2002. who would Bergman's equivalent be in the rockist canon? Lou Reed?
I agree that, at least in my experience, film fans are more open, convivial, and understanding than Fugazi punks or w/e

flappy bird, Friday, 6 March 2020 20:00 (one month ago) link

I'll give this a go, why not

HARD BOILED (Woo)
THE THIRD MAN (Reed)
BEAU TRAVAIL (Denis)
VERTIGO (Hitchcock)
LONDON (Keiller)
FUNNY GAMES (Haneke)
TO LIVE AND DIE IN LA (Friedkin)
TOTAL RECALL (Verhoeven)
AMERICAN PSYCHO (Harron)
THIS IS SPINAL TAP (Reiner)

Neil S, Friday, 6 March 2020 20:19 (one month ago) link

American Psycho, ok flex on them

when Buttigieg was still in the race, I couldn't stop thinking of Patrick Bateman's "woke speech" early on in the movie & book.

flappy bird, Friday, 6 March 2020 20:32 (one month ago) link

My recollection of House of Games was great script and character actors, let down by the lead and cinematography/production design. I wouldn't mind a remake.

sedated, paralyzed, on respirator, slowly drowning (Sanpaku), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:40 (one month ago) link

xp: Buttigieg + "Well, we have to end apartheid for one..." found its way onto my feed months ago...

sedated, paralyzed, on respirator, slowly drowning (Sanpaku), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:42 (one month ago) link

PTA not having a Scorsese or Altman film on there is either comically brazen or comically delusional.

clemenza, Friday, 6 March 2020 23:36 (one month ago) link

I thought The Master inclusion played the comic role.

sedated, paralyzed, on respirator, slowly drowning (Sanpaku), Friday, 6 March 2020 23:39 (one month ago) link

Where is that list from, anyway? it's not his S&S ballot

flappy bird, Friday, 6 March 2020 23:42 (one month ago) link

I don't want to sound like I take umbrage or anything; as I said (or tried to say) above, lists are lists, and--to quote someone who's nowhere near my own--everyone has their reasons. I was just thinking of Magnolia in relation to Altman, and Boogie Nights in relation to Scorsese (he does list I Am Cuba, so he's not playing hide-and-seek with his influences).

clemenza, Friday, 6 March 2020 23:44 (one month ago) link

that list reads like someone asked him what his favorite movies of the moment were. there's so much from the last couple years, anyway where did it come from

flappy bird, Friday, 6 March 2020 23:47 (one month ago) link

PTA not having a Scorsese or Altman film on there is either comically brazen or comically delusional.

― clemenza, Friday, 6 March 2020 23:36 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

qft

Alain the Botton (jed_), Saturday, 7 March 2020 01:15 (one month ago) link

Should people like their influences?

college bong rip guy (silby), Saturday, 7 March 2020 01:22 (one month ago) link

He has more movies from 2017 than movies made before 1964

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Saturday, 7 March 2020 01:56 (one month ago) link

Not from 2017 on just from 2017

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Saturday, 7 March 2020 01:57 (one month ago) link

I had look up qft--yes, quantum field theory, that's exactly what I had in mind! I would think normally a director or writer or musician would like his or her influences? I mean, it's not a rule or anything, but it doesn't seem like a far-fetched assumption. Anyway, again, it really and truly doesn't bother me at all. Just caught my attention and seemed a little odd. Maybe Altman made his 35th favorite film and Scorsese his 36th. (Loved seeing Jaws there. Maybe he'll resurrect that franchise, with Joaquin Phoenix as Sheriff Brody.)

clemenza, Saturday, 7 March 2020 03:22 (one month ago) link

qft = quoted for truth

the list obviously isn't comprehensive

flappy bird, Saturday, 7 March 2020 03:47 (one month ago) link

(Using my own detective skills, I actually thought it meant "quit fucking talking"...)

clemenza, Saturday, 7 March 2020 03:51 (one month ago) link

the list is just culled randomly by indiewire from interviews and comments over the years

https://www.indiewire.com/gallery/paul-thomas-anderson-favorite-films-movies/the-birdcage-1996-3/

flappy bird, Saturday, 7 March 2020 04:05 (one month ago) link

a taste of honey (richardson, 1961)
chimes at midnight (welles, 1965)
vagabond (varda, 1985)
modern times (chaplin, 1936)
a girl walks home alone at night (amirpour, 2014)
2001: a space odyssey (kubrick, 1968)
valerie and her week of wonders (jireš, 1970)
daisies (chytilová, 1966)
his girl friday (hawks, 1940)
an angel at my table (campion, 1990)

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 7 March 2020 04:25 (one month ago) link

Girl Walks etc is a powerful pick

college bong rip guy (silby), Saturday, 7 March 2020 04:30 (one month ago) link

i saw it for the first time just a few months ago and was blown away by how much i liked it. virtually a silent film for long stretches, but just incredibly visually powerful and haunting.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 7 March 2020 04:36 (one month ago) link

PTA establishing himself with films that ripped off Scorsese and Altman was comically brazen

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 7 March 2020 05:48 (one month ago) link

(his recent Kubrick-Hitchcock phase is far more muted)

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 7 March 2020 05:49 (one month ago) link

PTA has remained horny as well

flappy bird, Saturday, 7 March 2020 06:26 (one month ago) link

Maybe now IS the time to do this!

coronoshebettadontvirus (Eric H.), Friday, 13 March 2020 17:23 (four weeks ago) link

yes

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 13 March 2020 17:24 (four weeks ago) link

Yes. Yes.

clemenza, Friday, 13 March 2020 17:30 (four weeks ago) link

I've been idly working on a list in anticipation.

jmm, Friday, 13 March 2020 17:41 (four weeks ago) link

I'm surprised by how much love Jeanne Dielman gets here and elsewhere. I watched in on youtube last week and thought it was 3 hrs 10 minutes of housewifery with a bit of messiness at the end. Anyway, here are mine:

The Wizard of Oz
Murmur of the Heart
Claire's Knee
Taxi Driver
Naked
Mulholland Drive
The Last Picture Show
The White Ribbon
Spirit of the Beehive
The Virgin Spring

Only seen most of those films once, so not too confident in one or two choices down at the bottom.

gravalicious, Sunday, 15 March 2020 12:52 (three weeks ago) link

"3 hrs 10 minutes of housewifery with a bit of messiness at the end"

This should be on the DVD cover

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 March 2020 12:57 (three weeks ago) link

Housewifery

flappy bird, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 04:42 (three weeks ago) link

La Passion de Jeanne d'Arc
The Shining
Persona
In the Mood for Love
Citizen Kane
Close-up
Days of Heaven
The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp
Rushmore
The Phantom Thread

cajunsunday, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 08:17 (three weeks ago) link

I like your list cajunsunday. also like many others here

Dan S, Friday, 20 March 2020 02:57 (three weeks ago) link

it's hard to choose all-time favorite films. the only thing I'm sure about is that 2001 and Taxi Driver would be at the top of my list

Dan S, Friday, 20 March 2020 03:57 (three weeks ago) link

“what's exciting to me about making this list is how it can be used to communicate the crucial bigness of the medium, how many movements, genres, eras it's explored in just 125 or so years” (Eric H)

“I love list-making because doing so is a mix of instinct, posturing, and calculation” (Alfred)

I like these comments

Dan S, Friday, 20 March 2020 04:06 (three weeks ago) link


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