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is it better to be attractive or unattractive?

i think the topic of physical attractiveness is kind of under-examined, maybe for obvious reasons. but when i consider how differently people are interacted with on the basis of their appearance, the implications must be considerable.

speaking for myself, once i get to know someone, this attribute becomes less and less a factor in how i relate to them. but initially, and unconsciously, the difference in how attractive and less attractive people are treated, approached, and catered to is significant.

speaking for myself, very attractive people can be intimidating, but also exciting, and i become very conscious of my behavior around them, hoping they will notice me and find me attractive. again i'm speaking of primal subconscious urges; if you are married or attached you can subjugate these instincts to a large degree.

i am initially more comfortable and more myself with less attractive people, but also there is less a desire to impress or serve or gain their attention. once again, these differences quickly melt away after a relationship has formed.

and from the pov of the object, i think if i were an attractive female, i would be very guarded and careful in public or around new people, wary of the male gaze and overt attempts to engage with me. (i really think it would be kind of awful being a very attractive female, in many ways.)

a less attractive person is probably less burdened by this objectification, but does jealousy and/or self-image problems have a more negative effect on a life?

i just think one's appearance must play a huge role in how a person develops and is socialized, but i haven't been exposed to any studies on the topic.

who's the happiest? idk, probably a 5 or 6 on the old 1-10. similar to how studies show the average income of the happiest people is around $80K, above average, but not enough to cause a bunch of new problems.

otm into winter (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 00:42 (two weeks ago) link

When i smile, cars crash

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 00:43 (two weeks ago) link

i think this is only a 'thing' to the extent that you engage with it, and that others engage with it. beauty - in the way you're talking about it, as a 1-10 scale - is a performance, and if you feel like being part of the audience for that performance then sure, it's better to be a 10 i guess!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 00:56 (two weeks ago) link

i do know that when my self-esteem was higher, I was much more satisfied with my appearance and wasn't very overtly worried about it in public.

now I look like a sloppy beardo

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 00:59 (two weeks ago) link

hottt

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 01:04 (two weeks ago) link

good thread

I think personality and temperament account for a lot, and override physical attractiveness as far as happiness is concerned

Dan S, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 01:05 (two weeks ago) link

i hope i've included a sufficient amount of disclaimers. another one: i'm not presuming that everyone who doesn't fit the hot mold is jealous or has a poor self-image. but it's common among younger people and this question is probably geared more toward to people in the more formative years

otm into winter (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 01:09 (two weeks ago) link

beauty - in the way you're talking about it, as a 1-10 scale - is a performance

i thought i was talking about the more congenital, less performative aspect

otm into winter (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 01:15 (two weeks ago) link

I've found that physical attractiveness is helpful in moderation. People naturally tend to treat you better when they feel at least some measure of attraction to you, and when that attraction isn't wholly dependent on knowing you well it applies rapidly and broadly to everyone you meet. A bonus!

I've never personally experienced being in the top 1% of physically attractive people, but my strong sense is that it would usually be a pain in the ass, in that you'd be constantly surrounded by a massively reality-warping energy field that you could never escape from.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 01:43 (two weeks ago) link

It’s not really that bad

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 01:44 (two weeks ago) link

I liked the running joke with Jon Hamm’s character on 30 Rock

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 01:56 (two weeks ago) link

no matter yr level of hotness, as we age most of us become... INVISIBLE.

And I'm starting to get the turkey-neck thing too.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 01:59 (two weeks ago) link

My personal theory is that people's characteristic facial expressions shape their faces over time, and aside from boring "model" attributes like symmetry, height, clear skin etc. that this is the basis of attractiveness. i.e. that people who look attractive often do so because their personality and expressions are attractive.
Evidence: "good looking" people I find unattractive, super attractive people who don't look that great in photos

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 02:07 (two weeks ago) link

oh shit that's just the lyrics to "Seen and Not Seen" huh

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 02:08 (two weeks ago) link

that's interesting.

i've always been scared to death by the adage "at age 50 you have the face you deserve" but i'm getting close and somehow holding up alright

otm into winter (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 02:13 (two weeks ago) link

i got over this at an early age

ive little doubt that good looks can be a cheat mode, not always to a person's benefit, but it's hard to say for sure that really goodlooking people always know it either.

people who are very attractive and manage not to be dicks impress me, well done to them etc

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 02:17 (two weeks ago) link

I always figure it's best to be a medium level of attractive, where if people are into you they'll find you attractive, but you're not so good-looking that everyone treats you weird and/or objectifies you.

Unless you have ambitions to be a Hollywood actor or a rock star or something, then I guess being beautiful probably helps more than it hurts.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 02:25 (two weeks ago) link

I'm in the sweet spot for this, ok looking, nothing out of this world. Look ok enough to have people be favourably disposed towards me, but not so good-looking that I engender suspicion or jealousy

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 02:26 (two weeks ago) link

i remember yr wdyll you mysterious exotic looking hunk u

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 02:27 (two weeks ago) link

a less attractive person is probably less burdened by this objectification

Objectification is not just about desire, it's about removing personhood. You don't get less objectified, you just get turned into a rejected object.

I can't get with a lot of self-affirmation/body positive stuff because the idea behind it is to extend what is considered beauty in the mainstream, so it still concentrates worth on body and appearance, and fails to challenge the system at all. Fuck corporeality!

emil.y, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 16:51 (two weeks ago) link

Objectification is not just about desire, it's about removing personhood. You don't get less objectified, you just get turned into a rejected object.

Oof. Good observation.

otm into winter (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 16:57 (two weeks ago) link

Interesting thread.
I think that in a totally unconscious way, I credit v. good looking people with extra/superior qualities (before knowing them, obviously).
So I might get intimidated and interact with them like they have something more on a moral, psychological or intellectual level which doesn't make sense of course since good looks aren't linked in any way to other qualities...

Also, knowing well a woman who is v. good looking, I have noticed it definitely helps in many situations since I don't seem to be the only one who treats good looking people like they belong to some kind of aristocracy.
But it's also definitely a burden as it requires constant attention to other people's attitude and agenda (men obviously who are basically a permanent threat, but also women who are often mean and aggressive/jealous).
That's particularly complicated in business related relations because all men in power are very easy to access... but being taken seriously is something else. And all women consider her as a dangerous rival.
I suppose, being a beautiful woman is like being given the keys to a Ferrari : you move fast through life but it can be exhausting and dangerous !

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:11 (two weeks ago) link

I can't get with a lot of self-affirmation/body positive stuff because the idea behind it is to extend what is considered beauty in the mainstream, so it still concentrates worth on body and appearance

yeah i feel this big time. I get that a lot of that stuff means well but 95% of the time the message boils down to "don't feel left out - we can ALL be considered sex objects!".

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:13 (two weeks ago) link

emil.y v otm

Todd Phillips, party auteur (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:14 (two weeks ago) link

except I still envision a positive corporeality, or at least materialism. You could argue that attractiveness is a function/relationship of non-material processes more than it's grounded in they actually corporeal.

Todd Phillips, party auteur (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:17 (two weeks ago) link

man xps
idk why but I'm thinking about the American The Office. So the Office was a m/l "woke" series compared to most. But I remember Pam, Erin, and Angela and Kelly getting much more screen time than Phyllis and Meredith. Now this is certainly partially a function of aiming the series to a certain demographic (maybe this thread should have been about the fetisization of both youth and beauty).

Anyway I found a graph of lines per character, and I was right except, interestingly, for Kelly

https://i.imgur.com/OrbzUSB.jpg

Okay we all know youth and beauty are indeed fetishized, but my original query was more about how those both inside and outside this zone of attention are affected by the attention, or lack thereof, and what effect it has. and which is better. idk.

i identify with others who say this ranking and evaluating and hunting and possibly subconsciously ignoring ended fairly in life

otm into winter (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:36 (two weeks ago) link

fairly early

otm into winter (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:37 (two weeks ago) link

lol i'm really scattered and will let the thread go where it may

otm into winter (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:43 (two weeks ago) link

i always took the American office cast being pretty as evidence it was worse than UK office from its very inception.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:47 (two weeks ago) link

otm

otm into winter (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:51 (two weeks ago) link

for an american sitcom is was very plain

otm into winter (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:52 (two weeks ago) link

i shudder to think what blandly attractive spray tan robots would have been cast for Peep Show US

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:56 (two weeks ago) link

one reason Uncut Gems was so great is that at least half the people on screen looked like actual people rather than tooth-whitened workout dudes, which is increasingly what all actors do now

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:07 (two weeks ago) link

otm

calzino, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:11 (two weeks ago) link

re: office chart
https://imgshare.io/images/2020/02/11/Screen-Shot-2020-02-11-at-10.06.48-AM.png

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:19 (two weeks ago) link

Objectification is not just about desire, it's about removing personhood. You don't get less objectified, you just get turned into a rejected object.

That's true, but at least that means you weed out the people who compulsively objectify others, thus escaping a lot of confusing and dehumanizing attention and leaving the field open to people who might see you as a person.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:34 (two weeks ago) link

hot ppl are just better, sorry

lumen (esby), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:49 (two weeks ago) link

Much like inherited wealth, physical attractiveness is routinely underrated by those who benefit from it the most. Or by those who have so little of it that it's best to pretend it doesn't exist at all.

toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 19:04 (two weeks ago) link

Being hot is a decision

— Perfume Genius (@perfumegenius) February 12, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:05 (two weeks ago) link

Even if i cared about being 'hot' and got a new do and used product and fixed my eyebrows and shaved, my face is still my face

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:11 (two weeks ago) link

it's trippy how you can "like" a tweet from within ilxor.com

greta van thunberger fleetwig (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:20 (two weeks ago) link

I'm working on an esby theory

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 February 2020 02:35 (two weeks ago) link

is perfume genius a spinoff site where randos tell you the meaning behind each perfume and inexplicably use the n-word a lot

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 February 2020 02:37 (two weeks ago) link

I think Perfume Genius makes bobbins

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 February 2020 02:54 (two weeks ago) link

I appreciate a lot of the body positivity stuff but I find it sad that a lot of people seem to be just always yearning for some mass validation.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:03 (two weeks ago) link

(Not bobbins, Perfume Genius makes arty queer pop music and his last album is amazing)

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:06 (two weeks ago) link

(great live as well)

latin hypercube in shitspace (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:10 (two weeks ago) link

has anyone else noticed the proliferation of onlyfans.com? it's a way for people (usually extant social media personalities with a non-negligible amount of followers) to make money by posting exclusive content (that they wouldn't or can't post to twitter/instagram) behind a paywall at the onlyfans site. the platform allows nudity and porn, and that seems to be the majority of what ppl are posting there.

sadly this potential income stream is not accessible to me, as a 45 yr old skinnyfat mess. it would seem you'd need to be, indeed, physically attractive.

i've seen a few examples now of (otherwise?) woke folks with onlyfans accounts, always involving racy pics/vids. one dude i follow does it, the rest are young, attractive women. does any of this seem hypocritical or unfair?

i will FP you and your entire family (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 19:26 (one week ago) link

and if this is the mainstreaming of "camming," is that a good thing, or bad thing, or neither?

i will FP you and your entire family (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 19:30 (one week ago) link

so the issue isn't worthy of discussion/debate, okay, cool

i will FP you and your entire family (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:11 (one week ago) link

i don't espouse the criticism i put out there, but i don't see how it's so easily dismissed, or "foolish". and no i don't think ilx is so easily trolled. i think it raises a couple interesting questions

i will FP you and your entire family (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:15 (one week ago) link

btw it's "simp" these days

i will FP you and your entire family (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:18 (one week ago) link

The only "simp" slang that I've heard refers to women whose labia resemble Homer Simpson's mouth. I think it's a reddit thing. Is that what you're referring to?

☮️ (peace, man), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:22 (one week ago) link

..........what?

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:25 (one week ago) link

Look it up on Urban Dictionary.

romanesque architect (pomenitul), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:25 (one week ago) link

a word for thirsty sexually impotent men, rough synonym for "nerd", usually used by simps

i will FP you and your entire family (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:26 (one week ago) link

yes THAT definition I knew

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:28 (one week ago) link

I suppose you could say that most jobs make use of some inequitably distributed advantage. Why should making money from your looks be more objectionable than making money from your intelligence, physical ability, etc.?

JRN, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:30 (one week ago) link

the issue isn't worthy of discussion/debate

not in the framework you intended

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:30 (one week ago) link

JRN otm

from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs imo. I’m a hot doctor who knows the heimlich and is good at tennis, venmo me btw

k3vin k., Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:31 (one week ago) link

lol

marcos, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:32 (one week ago) link

from each according to what can be feasibly extracted, to each according to how hot they are

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:32 (one week ago) link

Main criticism of camming/onlyfans etc. is that the participants are opening themselves up to potential interaction with people who do “espouse” the “criticism” detailed above, and who may use this grievance as a motivation to cause the person in question some form of distress/harm.

The argument is evidently completely moronic/absurd.

crisp, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:39 (one week ago) link

haven't received my permission to post itt yet iirc

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:45 (one week ago) link

if hostility towards rvw is in fact genuine then fuck yiz for pricks tbh

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:45 (one week ago) link

I mean thoughtlording over whether sex work is bad is essentially what's going on here now

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:47 (one week ago) link

Sex work is bad because it conflicts with the extremely bad faith imaginary precepts of wokeness

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:48 (one week ago) link

Onlyfans seems if anything less obviously, horribly exploitative than the majority of pr0n production

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:49 (one week ago) link

I mean thoughtlording over whether sex work is bad is essentially what's going on here now

― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, February 19, 2020 3:47 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

by whom?? I'm just asking questions which should be obvious.

but maybe i am a moron if a notice a possible objection that is so apparently invalid

i will FP you and your entire family (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:56 (one week ago) link

btw no one's shown how

i will FP you and your entire family (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:57 (one week ago) link

whom are you "just asking questions" of, are you "just asking questions" like people "just asking questions" about race science or are you genuinely in need of some like introductory pamphlets about third wave feminism

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:58 (one week ago) link

yeah see

rvw has posted on this site for fuckin years and apparently a gang of ye have decided after one fuckin random thread a week back hes in the shithouse column

and its a shit fucking look

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:02 (one week ago) link

no one's shown how

all you've offered is so vague that it would not be possible to show how 'wokeness' is 'hypocritical' in this instance, because you are just handwaving what this wokeness is espousing that is incompatible with the actions you are not quite describing. Get down to cases, rip.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:02 (one week ago) link

darragh u genuinely arguing we should be nicer around here? different tune than I remember you playing of late!

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:04 (one week ago) link

deems, you're off base. only one person responded with hostility toward rip personally, as opposed to the content of what he was posting. and I fp'd that hostile response, btw.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:05 (one week ago) link

xps. to darragh. im a cunt to lots of people on here who have been acting the arse less than he is itt. and since when did you become the civility police? thought you were in the bring back dom club?

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:05 (one week ago) link

xxxxp i probably do need those pamphlets, but the issue of exploiting an inherent privilege is still there, and while i have no objections to anyone's choice to engage in sex work, there is something weird about having this big pool of like-minded tweeters out there and now the hot one's have this new way to make money and promote it on twitter

i will FP you and your entire family (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:06 (one week ago) link

it does bother me (sincerely) that the way i brought this forth is so distasteful to some poster i really like like jiv and silby... it does seem like a moderately interesting topic though? i'm wondering how i could have changed my approach

i will FP you and your entire family (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:07 (one week ago) link

(BUT i was full aware before starting this thread that ppl would gag and roll eyes, yet again there's something there worth discussing)

i will FP you and your entire family (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:10 (one week ago) link

pffft civility police schmivility police

its the why and when ye decide to bull in to someone that as a group is bollox

gloves on or gloves off and not this "we'll decide when we're cunts"

nb i mayve been on the vinho verde but looks

ye want a community and ye bemoan the lack of that then ye descend on the least charitable interpretation of yer pet subjects like foaming dogs and whenever ye note that the site is in a nervous wreck ye attribute it to anything but this pinchnostril pack mentality

i think it might be worth looking at love ye x

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:11 (one week ago) link

Shouldn't you be concentrating on the Spurs game?

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:13 (one week ago) link

i wont stand over any of this in the mornin obv

xp better off drunk fighting online tbpfh

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:14 (one week ago) link

See what happens?

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:14 (one week ago) link

ffs

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:14 (one week ago) link

If you want to discuss it seriously, then get serious about it. define what you think is hypocritical and how that hypocrisy is damaging to people, in such a way that someone could respond seriously to it. don't just aw shucks your way into it and indicate there's something there, but you can't quite put your finger on it. if your finger can't touch it, don't expect us to locate it for you and refute it. if you want to be taken seriously, do your job.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:17 (one week ago) link

great revive iirc

i will FP you and your entire family (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:18 (one week ago) link

ffs

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:19 (one week ago) link

okay fair enough Aimless

i will FP you and your entire family (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:19 (one week ago) link

RVW, I took your question seriously and asked a question in return. What did you think about it?

JRN, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:34 (one week ago) link

I think a lot of “body positive” / unconventionally attractive people get to make a little money from prurient material. In the grand scheme of things, that’s good imo. It also argues for the title of this thread being eroded over time.

Probably something to be said for the fact that people on average are taller, healthier, more symmetrical, and have better teeth now than ever before in human history. So on top of the definition being expanded to meet the “long tail” of various audiences, the average attractiveness of any given person is also increased. I feel the argument is rapidly becoming moot.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:51 (one week ago) link

physical abraxasness

https://static.vibe.com/files/2015/09/carlos-santana-compressed.jpg

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:55 (one week ago) link

Plastic surgery more popular and widespread than ever.

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:55 (one week ago) link

It’s also cheaper and more widely available than ever.

I did read a piece about the “botox brow lift” explosion recently and looked at the before/after pictures of several celebrities and influencers who apparently chose that procedure. I didn’t feel sad, but I definitely didn’t feel attracted.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 22:08 (one week ago) link

the amount of plastic surgery and other cosmetic procedures that is currently going on is fucking insane.

maybe i shouldn’t judge. to each their own. who am i to say what people should do with their own bodies. but i can’t help finding it pretty insane. i certainly find it unattractive, physically, about 90% of the time, and the other 10% is when i haven’t noticed it!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 22:12 (one week ago) link

most people have certain strong attributes that they choose to and/or are forced to monetize or not.

re: modern plastic surgery aesthetics. I wonder if all of that will look very outdated soon/now. Like, with the heavy contouring/bronzing. Beauty standards change more rapidly now.

Yerac, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 22:12 (one week ago) link

Despite discrimination, illness and general physical danger, I cant imagine wanting rid of corporeality, I love it. Not just physical beauty and sex but dancing, playing instruments, martial arts, running, jumping, nice baths, patting/scratching/stroking animals and much more.
Anybody really just want everything to be energy waves?

Marcos- you really think some people should hate their own bodies?

Rip Van Wanko - I'm not going to be presumptuous but what you said does sound a bit like the guys getting angry about girls on twitch getting an audience for their looks (recent stats say these girls aren't even in the top 20 streamers; not shocked that gamergaters are wrong again) or making easy money (I doubt this is ever actually easy).
It warms my porntimist heart to see so many people camming, onlyfans, manyvids, patreon etc. I just wish paypal and amazon would get more in on the act.

I do feel a bit guilty that I love one of my dogs more because she's more adorably cute than her sister and has a more emotional face. Some animal species surely fare better through their looks.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 22 February 2020 17:34 (one week ago) link

pinchnostril

is this body shaming???!?!?!?!?!? somehow?

j., Saturday, 22 February 2020 19:48 (one week ago) link

Anybody really just want everything to be energy waves?

i very much enjoy corporeality and being in a body / my body but also ~~~~everything is already energy waves~~~ and to be fully oblivious of my separateness of those waves sounds pretty rad, it does entail oblivion though

Marcos- you really think some people should hate their own bodies?

some people do hate their bodies. what i meant is that it's not really my role (or anyone else's but theirs') to tell them that they should, in fact, love their bodies

marcos, Saturday, 22 February 2020 23:39 (one week ago) link

I think it would be better to not care than to hate your body if you cant like it.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 23 February 2020 00:03 (six days ago) link


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