US Politics, February 2020. They want to kill your cows.

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For the record, lest it seem like I think sic is a bad person or anything like it, my only issue is with people saying "hey this guy is a total fuck who acts in ways which make no sense to me, hmmm that means it could be dementia". Even if you think there is something medically wrong with him, being an asshole, or stupid, or throwing tantrums or even spewing a bunch of rhetoric which makes no sense when parsed but which is really just cant to fire up his support base, is not part of an overall picture suggesting dementia. People's behaviour changes when they have dementia, for sure, but there are many many reasons for people to rant and rave which are not dementia. Trump's stupidity and inappropriate behaviours are very easily explained by his well established narcissism, lack of knowledge, profound apathy toward others' needs, egocentrism, lifetime of privilege and a complete lack of consequences for asshole behaviour. His occasional physical twitches and speech stumbles are likewise most easily explained by fatigue, stress, and god knows what stimulants he uses to reach his exalted plane of self belief. I'm in my forties and I have glitched out in the middle of sentences when I am tired and stressed and lecturing to large groups of people - and I'm not doing rails of Adderall.
tl;dr sic is generally a stand-up guy and I am trying to draw a huge, clear line between dementia and the behaviour of an amoral sociopath

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 6 February 2020 04:27 (four years ago) link

also Hunt3r the stigma of dementia has a massive effect on the carers and families of people who have dementia - their friends shy away and they end up walking a very hard road without much support. That's why I get fired up about it. I'll stop preaching now.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 6 February 2020 04:28 (four years ago) link

yeah i hear you man. there are prejudices re actual illness that are so harmful to the treatment, therapy, patient communities that one feels moral AND professional obligations to denounce or clarify.

on a much less substantive basis, me flipping out every time anyone calls the Ukraine call report a “transcript.” til i die. 🙄

in a mellow, balmy way (Hunt3r), Thursday, 6 February 2020 04:38 (four years ago) link

these things actually matter

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 6 February 2020 04:50 (four years ago) link

imo not always, such as a political discussion in which the nature of the affliction—whatever its cause—is a disqualification from office, and which disqualification, regardless the cause, necessitates immediate removal from office. it’s a clear and present danger.

in a mellow, balmy way (Hunt3r), Thursday, 6 February 2020 05:08 (four years ago) link

ha i either sound like butti whom i dislike or a narc which, lol.

in a mellow, balmy way (Hunt3r), Thursday, 6 February 2020 05:10 (four years ago) link

Listening to Moscow Mitch's voice is somehow even worse than to Trump's

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 February 2020 05:54 (four years ago) link

even the stables will be Romanesque when New Caligula gets a horse

The New York Times reports:

Should every new government building in the nation’s capital be created in the same style as the White House? A draft of an executive order called “Making Federal Buildings Beautiful Again” would establish a classical style, inspired by Greek and Roman architecture, as the default for federal buildings in Washington and many throughout the country, discouraging modern design.

The order, spearheaded by the National Civic Art Society, a nonprofit group that believes contemporary architecture has “created a built environment that is degraded and dehumanizing,” would rewrite the current rules that govern the design of office buildings, headquarters, and courthouses, or any federal building project contracted through the General Services Administration that costs over $50 million.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 February 2020 17:17 (four years ago) link

oh nice, trump has really good taste in design, very hopeful for what he picks out

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 6 February 2020 17:24 (four years ago) link

contemporary architecture has “created a built environment that is degraded and dehumanizing,”

'degenerate' was right there

mookieproof, Thursday, 6 February 2020 17:25 (four years ago) link

we should take some of these brutalist buildings and make them 10,000% tacky

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 6 February 2020 17:25 (four years ago) link

one word: mosaics

in a mellow, balmy way (Hunt3r), Thursday, 6 February 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/02/06/rachel-bitecofer-profile-election-forecasting-new-theory-108944

Bitecofer, a 42-year-old professor at Christopher Newport University in the Hampton Roads area of Virginia, was little known in the extremely online, extremely male-dominated world of political forecasting until November 2018. That’s when she nailed almost to the number the nature and size of the Democrats’ win in the House, even as other forecasters went wobbly in the race’s final days. Not only that, but she put out her forecast back in July, and then stuck by it while polling shifted throughout the summer and fall.

And today her model tells her the Democrats are a near lock for the presidency in 2020, and are likely to gain House seats and have a decent shot at retaking the Senate. If she’s right, we are now in a post-economy, post-incumbency, post record-while-in-office era of politics. Her analysis, as Bitecofer puts it with characteristic immodesty, amounts to nothing less than “flipping giant paradigms of electoral theory upside down.”

Bitecofer’s theory, when you boil it down, is that modern American elections are rarely shaped by voters changing their minds, but rather by shifts in who decides to vote in the first place. To her critics, she’s an extreme apostle of the old saw that “turnout explains everything,” taking a long victory lap after getting lucky one time. She sees things slightly differently: That the last few elections show that American politics really has changed, and other experts have been slow to process what it means.

The classic view is that the pool of American voters is basically fixed: About 55 percent of eligible voters are likely to go to the polls, and the winner is determined by the 15 percent or so of “swing voters” who flit between the parties. So a general election campaign amounts to a long effort to pull those voters in to your side.

Bitecofer has a nickname for this view. She calls it, with disdain, the “Chuck Todd theory of American politics”: “The idea that there is this informed, engaged American population that is watching these political events and watching their elected leaders and assessing their behavior and making a judgment.”

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 6 February 2020 19:22 (four years ago) link

this article is relevant to the architecture talk

https://www.thedailybeast.com/second-trump-ghostwriter-says-he-was-lousy-at-business-bored-and-obsessed-with-carpet-swatches

Charles Leerhsen, ghostwriter of Surviving at the Top, has written an account for Yahoo News about the time he spent observing Trump for the book. He paints a picture of a lazy, ill-tempered man who was out of his depth when it came to business. In fact, his main contribution to his businesses seemed to be choosing carpets.

Leerhsen wrote that Trump was neither terrified about the scale of his losses nor, as the president claimed Wednesday, carrying out a Machiavellian plan to make sure he didn’t have to pay income tax. He was just bored.

“Trump’s portfolio did not jibe with what I saw each day—which to a surprisingly large extent was him looking at fabric swatches,” said the ghostwriter. “Indeed, flipping through fabric swatches seemed at times to be his main occupation. Some days he would do it for hours, then take me in what he always called his ‘French military helicopter’ to Atlantic City—where he looked at more fabric swatches.”

According to Leerhsen, Trump's obsession with carpets and curtains appeared to stem from his lack of understanding of much more important business decisions. The writer recounted one decision Trump reportedly made that exposed his complete lack of ability as a businessman.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 6 February 2020 19:29 (four years ago) link

Re: Bitcofer. She could be right as rain, but her model would need to predict more than one or two elections for me to read that article and not hear strong echoes of "He predicted the 2008 crash in 2006, now hear where he thinks the DOW is going in 2021!" clickbait.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 6 February 2020 19:39 (four years ago) link

inclined to agree re: the breathless hype, but I think her underlying logic is very solid. swing voters are a myth.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 6 February 2020 19:41 (four years ago) link

Hmm, I'm undecided as to the wisdom of her claims, perhaps I will await a strong breeze to blow me in one of two directions.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 February 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link

heh

Οὖτις, Thursday, 6 February 2020 19:48 (four years ago) link

i do think there are sincere swing voters. they're all complete morons obviously. i guess the question is/are 1) are there enough for them to be worth worrying about 2) are there more of them and are they more easily activated than non-voters. land of contrasts stuff i know.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 6 February 2020 19:50 (four years ago) link

i don't care about the predicitive accuracy of her particular model, but the basic thesis seems clear and plausible.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 6 February 2020 19:50 (four years ago) link

oh yeah that asshole

Andy Reid crossed with Mr Rogers crossed with Joe the Plumber

omar little, Thursday, 6 February 2020 19:57 (four years ago) link

the basic thesis seems clear and plausible.

To the extent she is right about turnout being the be-all and end-all, it's not like either party thinks that GOTV isn't a critical part of winning elections already. I guess they could channel more resources from running ads into organizing GOTV, but part of GOTV is giving voters the idea that they need to vote and why. iow motivation matters and campaigns build that motivation over time. So, exactly how to turn her basic thesis into a more practical strategy is not entirely clear to me.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 6 February 2020 20:14 (four years ago) link

fair. i guess if it's correct it helps you figure out which voters *not* to chase.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 6 February 2020 20:17 (four years ago) link

i assume low info voters, ideologues or not, boil down to tribal prejudice stacked to terrible, misapplied risk mgmt heuristics.

Since this does not add anything i am not writing a book.

in a mellow, balmy way (Hunt3r), Thursday, 6 February 2020 20:26 (four years ago) link

imho chasing racist suburban wine moms who think trump is tacky or never trump conservatives who write opinions for nyt & wapo seems like a bad idea but i'm not a data guy

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 6 February 2020 20:27 (four years ago) link

She calls it, with disdain, the “Chuck Todd theory of American politics”

lol tho

mookieproof, Thursday, 6 February 2020 20:39 (four years ago) link

read that as "The Chuck Eddy theory of American politics"

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 February 2020 20:43 (four years ago) link

the hatred of modern architecture (as well as anything modern or post modern: art, lit, etc) is a big thing in alt-right circles.

akm, Thursday, 6 February 2020 20:44 (four years ago) link

Same as the Nazis obvi

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Thursday, 6 February 2020 20:45 (four years ago) link

yeah that sounds like a pet project of Stephen Miller

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 6 February 2020 20:46 (four years ago) link

read that as "The Chuck Eddy theory of American politics"

TEENA MARIE 2004!

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 6 February 2020 20:52 (four years ago) link

BIG AND RICH 2020

Οὖτις, Thursday, 6 February 2020 20:56 (four years ago) link

lol Rich was super-pissed a couple of weeks ago because a Nashville private christian school's curriculum included discussions of white privilege and racism.

my man has definitely got a future in TN politics if he wants it

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:06 (four years ago) link

Rig & B*tch

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:27 (four years ago) link

but how would a Nashville private christian school ever even find examples of white privilege and racism to show their students??????

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:28 (four years ago) link

Bitecofer's analysis also points to the effectiveness of disenfranchisement, if her theory is correct. The Republican version of GOTV.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link

big & rich remains one of the more embarrassing ILM bandwagon movements

omar little, Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:39 (four years ago) link

that first album is still good, damn you

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:48 (four years ago) link

Also: I was not around in 2004 for Chuck Eddy to cast his cantrips

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:49 (four years ago) link

the hatred of modern architecture (as well as anything modern or post modern: art, lit, etc) is a big thing in alt-right circles

Not because they actually care but because they think the libs do. And if the libs like it they hate it, etc.

I believe one Charles Windsor (him of Wales) has dabbled in this realm of criticism as well.

beelzebubbly (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:58 (four years ago) link

tbf I dislike a bunch of new buildings, too! but adhering to some artificial idea of what looks "classic" is very wrong-headed

caucus fricked iowa account (mh), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:59 (four years ago) link

why would the greatest country on earth look towards those effete euros for architectural inspiration??

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 February 2020 22:00 (four years ago) link

new mgmt seeks cred

in a mellow, balmy way (Hunt3r), Thursday, 6 February 2020 22:03 (four years ago) link

why would the greatest country on earth look towards those effete euros for architectural inspiration??

― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger),

are you still talking about Big & Rich

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 February 2020 22:08 (four years ago) link

Really, one of the best public services we can all regularly do is find some agreeable little sliver of a right-wing proposition and then excitedly talk up our approval of that sliver, prefacing with 'as a liberal socialist...'.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 February 2020 22:42 (four years ago) link

Kill them with leftness.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 February 2020 22:43 (four years ago) link

I kind of appreciate that conservatives care about aesthetics. I have an affection for the utopianism of modernist architecture and design—a melancholic one as the calm, humane rational of those guys ended up not being the way of the future—and i think it’s good that some other people care enough at least to hate it.

treeship., Thursday, 6 February 2020 23:28 (four years ago) link

And there is truth to scruton’s critique of modernism. There is something cold and calculating about modernism, and people do feel more comfortable in less rational spaces.

treeship., Thursday, 6 February 2020 23:32 (four years ago) link

I think every conservative should leave politics and become an architecture critic.

treeship., Thursday, 6 February 2020 23:33 (four years ago) link


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