Gardening 2020

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So, what are your gardening plans for 2020? Currently pondering whether to order/chit some potatoes! (UK)

djh, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 21:38 (four months ago) link

I need to make my bare-bones yard (front, back, side, all of it) look fabulous for zero dollars, can u help

That is my goal, reality will probably look more like hey I grew some tomatoes and otherwise it looks like an abandoned lot

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 02:25 (four months ago) link

Potatoes are very satisfying to grow IME. I've only done them in grow bags, not in the ground.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 02:26 (four months ago) link

Oooh can't wait for spring.

Things I won't plant again this year: Red Russian kale, just because I don't really like it/we didn't use it. Broccoli, bc it takes up mad room and you don't get that much broccoli.

Things I want to try: Potatoes! And red cabbage. And more corn/get better yield from the corn. Some other kale, maybe lacinato?

Problems I have to solve: Whatever ate lacy holes in all the greenery needs to go. I think it's cabbage moths. Devastated my brassicas.

Front yard: I have to find something to displace this REALLY aggressive grass under the front porch windows. Something decorative and good with afternoon sun, that gets some height, and can fight against this horrible grass that puts out long runners and pops up everywhere.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 14:53 (four months ago) link

Indoor hyacinths that have flowered and now look manky. They're in pots. Do I put the whole pot in the garage/outside until next year? Do I lift the bulbs? Do I plant them outside?

djh, Monday, 13 January 2020 19:24 (four months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Also, I've been given a £10 Sarah Raven voucher - I know that doesn't get me a lot at Sarah Raven - but what would you buy?

djh, Monday, 27 January 2020 22:52 (four months ago) link

Plus, what bulbs should I buy from Wilkos in my sad lunch-time half hour?

djh, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 20:32 (four months ago) link

Hyacinths: I think you can literally leave them in the pot until next year??! I have one just starting to sprout now from last year that I just forgot about for a long time and it's coming back.

Post more about gardening, everyone. It's springlike today and I'm getting eager (even though we're due at least a few more blizzards before real spring).

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 3 February 2020 16:52 (four months ago) link

Inspirations: I went to this lavender "labyrinth" a couple of years ago (http://www.cherrypointmarket.net/lavender-labyrinth.html) and it was so beautiful and textured and interesting even in late August. I bet in high lav season it's SPECTACULAR. Anyway the way they use herbs and botanicals for height and structure and not just for blooms intrigued me, and led me to the really sculptural, 4-season work of Piet Oudolf.

Cherry Point lavender maze & thematically arranged herb garden:

http://www.cherrypointmarket.net/uploads/7/9/4/5/79453278/2017-herb-garden-4_orig.jpg

http://www.cherrypointmarket.net/uploads/7/9/4/5/79453278/24-summer-solstice-2018_orig.jpg

Piet Oudolf is my personal gardening inspiration even though I have a small space and I know I cram too many plants into it because I like their shapes and colors.

https://shawellnessclinic.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/oudolf-DSC08377.jpg

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 3 February 2020 16:58 (four months ago) link

I have seed catalogs coming in weekly but I am vowing to do budget gardening this season. I should start seeds this weekend.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 3 February 2020 19:39 (four months ago) link

That’s a great idea. I have seeds left over from last year and/or can get more. Lemme do that too, something to look forward to this week!

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 3 February 2020 20:37 (four months ago) link

has anyone had any luck regrowing vegetables from scraps?

Yerac, Monday, 3 February 2020 20:47 (four months ago) link

Yes, for us cherry tomatoes grow wherever the fruit hit the ground in the previous year. One particular variety especially -- Matt's Wild Cherry.

Miami weisse (WmC), Monday, 3 February 2020 20:53 (four months ago) link

I might be about to find out because I realized too late that I threw bell pepper cores with seeds in them into the garden as compost. Might plant some scallion butts this spring!

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 3 February 2020 21:01 (four months ago) link

I'm worried because I didn't realize that this whole invasive earthworm thing was happening so whenever my bf went fishing and didn't use all the worms, I put them in the garden. The bait stores claim that the variety are "Red Wigglers" and if that's true, they should be fine and are actually a good vermicomposting species.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 3 February 2020 21:31 (four months ago) link

Due to see Alys Fowler talk about houseplants tomorrow so am a bit giddy.

djh, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 21:35 (four months ago) link

Seeds are half price at Wilkos at the moment. The timing seems odd but I've enjoyed it ...

djh, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 21:36 (four months ago) link

two months pass...

talk to me about bamboo

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 19:04 (one month ago) link

Don't do it.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 19:05 (one month ago) link

we need to do our back garden, after having just had builders in. the lawn is severely compacted and looks.... uh, dead? in places. I'm going to try aerating it first to see if the lawn regrows. after that we need to landscape it etc

biggest issue is the dividing boundary is a three foot fence with my neighbour and so privacy is severely impeded. they don't want a fence - OK fine but I'm going to have to put in screening so I'm thinking bamboo, grown to 5-6ft. in planters? in the ground? what genus? who knows! ugh it's stressing me out

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 19:06 (one month ago) link

too invasive? I would use clumping not running, and probably constrain it to planters.

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 19:07 (one month ago) link

You'd be bang to rights putting a fence up. My brother had similar issues with an arsehole neighbour who said they need occasional access so I put up a huge farmer's gate with a padlock on it and told the cunt to knock on the door if he needs access !

calzino, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 19:13 (one month ago) link

This cunt had threatened my brother so we took drastic action.

calzino, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 19:14 (one month ago) link

Admittedly I don't know that much about bamboo. I lived in a house in college where someone let it run wild in the side yard and I pulled out tons of it so we could see out the window again. More recently, someone put a pot of it out on our front stoop where it was inappropriately tall and in the way, and as it turns out it didn't get enough water and died over the winter. So I've just found it underwhelming and unappealing. Maybe if you want it as a privacy hedge it would do the trick in long narrow planters, I guess!

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 19:22 (one month ago) link

I can't imagine it would do well long term in planters, and in the ground it will spread everywhere, as noted.

nickn, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 20:18 (one month ago) link

Yeah there are better options imo

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 9 April 2020 02:36 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

Hello hello. Ever since the move to SF I haven't had the best chance to do anything with gardening -- there's a backyard but it's not the best and a lot of it can end up in shade. However, way unsurprisingly, spending time around the place more means I've been caught up in the 'well what CAN I fix' end of things. End result has been to batten down all the weeds with ground cover, mulch and bark, set up a couple of planters and refresh others that the downstairs neighbor already had, and generally make it at least a comfortable place to chill. That plus a great gardener we happily pay well over his quoted rate for to come in once a month to take care of a variety of little things and some bigger projects, from weeds to some tree trimming. Once I feel we've gotten it all somewhat more presentable -- I think we're about 3/4 of the way there -- I'll post some photos.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 May 2020 00:16 (three weeks ago) link

It has been quiet on here given that gardening is apparently *on trend*.

Here (UK), I've started to cautiously put out squash and courgettes and have been letting tomato plants sunbathe in the day. Lots of nasturtiums on the go (a habit). Various squash growing on windowsills, as are artichokes and a few sunflowers.

djh, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 21:29 (two weeks ago) link

the weekend before last i planted a hundred or so renga renga offshoots in an area formerly occupied by a dense mass of aluminium plant (massively invasive here) which along with being an amazing groundcover for shade areas has the added bonus of edible rhizomes once they mature a bit.

no lime tangier, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 09:56 (two weeks ago) link

trying to even get a gardener to quote for our work has been a pita. garden still a state and will be for a while : /

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 10:53 (two weeks ago) link

I have so many updates! It finally turned reliably warm here as everything has sped up greatly after limping along for a few weeks. Pics TK when I get to a computer, idk how to post from phone.

I currently have 11 bags of soil/compost/mulch to distribute around the yard so that’s some work for today. Arugula + romaine lettuce are doing great! We’ll start eating radishes soon! I have kale and red cabbage seedlings to give away if anyone wants.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 12:22 (two weeks ago) link

Did the pics not come through? They showed on my computer but now nothing.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:15 (one week ago) link

I remember seeing them Friday, but nothing now.

nickn, Sunday, 24 May 2020 17:27 (one week ago) link

I blame Big Ag!

nickn, Sunday, 24 May 2020 17:27 (one week ago) link

Damn I would really like to see them! <3 gardening pics

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 25 May 2020 13:47 (one week ago) link

The pics have never showed for me.

Anyway, UK question, perhaps I need to say south UK question: when will you start leaving tomatoes outside?

djh, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 17:46 (one week ago) link

Warning: fahrenheit reference

Tomatoes hate being under 54 F and I would not plant them out until the lows are reliably above that.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 21:35 (one week ago) link

12c? We're way off that, aren't we?
(Ta)

djh, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 21:41 (one week ago) link

Okay here's a little garden tour:

The view from the back porch:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/DUwTbbVdXqKyTH2MCtboG9ddv_4FIEHB7nS8Hrb67I8NpHN6pocMmZdgWmxUk1ddDKt40DZ5acCnNebnJRkzJk17jNftvTE6VeoMlS53HoL-G1b_RQJTVi4xddrUgSYNg5AhYvkbfDE=w2400

Mustard greens, a first for me but my neighbor gave me the plant:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/NGmkBpSmT1l-WxM_AtfUHoNFKsbrh-sqso2QBnGZlo5ny1iJQbZgUzzY-A_VYejUIGnEpVi9lNvZ7pDMdbxT6xLjwFSpU8tVyBRcRXSKEHfwkLfb457anJy6o8ktEqqdk83j-Bw9oL8=w2400

Chives about to flower!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/cwG99uPvLx4ssuKJwvuq4q7kqX1iOcKLa928e45WIihvRAXWduldJyf2NTdKKtZFC9Dm_J-4infpHS-CgzYsPnV0S79R2RDUai6bAJTrRusKi2XjH6JPJdG1D_kvwCNbCIw5h-1bCI8=w2400

Peas in bloom! Last year I missed the, like, 2-week period that the peas needed to be harvested and after that they were inedible so by being here every day I might finally get to eat some peas.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/HHcfj4RUz9tnpGQn4kkrbJAL5PDo6GeRLPeumH43NxIgP8wz3lMIK05oxcGp-JKKtLWWY4lHZovMwF-xKbb8P9MMkDxzbsoZlDbDlhdoEBKxl8GMN5Vo_0Ev_ERyGq0xGkxlBuWGea8=w2400

Two trellises for cucumbers that will also hopefully give shade to the lettuces behind them (and there's a mulched path in between which I like to walk on and pretend I'm strolling down a shady lane).

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bZIColusqxO2ZxdOTEQQYE8ORM5CJYc8Ophsw_spr2b69EnM38ERQrMnAr2sK26ktwa98-ziLq1BY_d9gffK1Kgm_XJMDVTiU-Pt_sKxmPJ9VK18b2OEwJ2WP_h8QgZ09oFi0seK6Y=w2400

Lacinato kale that I'm excited to have this year, grown from seed!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/NZRfGlsKit5PQX9mxvypLwyaiDKrFAC56m9vLNfYQh6-kdovX7Z7J4i53rIc3QS7-cUXw3IZ5qAsI2J2QMXxt1J0DJ4N0StLR0GhBMF8lAFnC_5eVdTJG1pTYZ4gBlRml-0nJuo3WPY=w2400

The back porch where I'm sitting right now, now with new rug.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0fO6_bZWW1oN1D71v_eE9wK5KRdxMhFSLKQRtWqtkAi1z3k4KoUaOCbDTwRafRnmo_NO05vzk269zjF5j5YXRnl4Yhat09wglbZeMGw7EPvj7lLq0whGfnM7cfcmv1RuU_b9rT1L9UM=w2400

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:57 (one week ago) link

For reference, the outside dimensions are about 13 x 16', but inside the fence line is probably 6-8" smaller? I've pretty much packed it with plants. 8 herbs, two bell peppers, two hot peppers, kale, red cabbages (that are totally not going to fit where they are now as they keep growing), about 7 difft tomatoes, cukes, romaine, butter lettuce, mustard greens, radishes, arugula, peas, fabulous multi-colored corn (an experiment), edamame, and leeks and shallots and one garlic sprout that won't be ready until fall. The spinach and radicchio seeds never germinated, alas.

I want to grow watermelon but I just don't have enough SPACE.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:06 (one week ago) link

Oh, that's lovely.

djh, Thursday, 28 May 2020 20:38 (one week ago) link

I can't eat the lettuce fast enough! I have so much! This is a problem with starting from seeds--you don't know how many will germinate and I hate thinning/killing any of the shoots that come up. I just planted too much. Same with radishes: I'm literally googling "How to eat radishes" because they need to get eaten in a short window and I have 2 or 3 dozen.

Also I have two teensy tomatoes growing already! Omg omg

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 4 June 2020 13:34 (yesterday) link

We planted a whole 4x8 raised bed of leafy greens and I’m already overwhelmed by how much has grown. Most of the spinach bolted though which sucks

Heez, Thursday, 4 June 2020 13:43 (yesterday) link

The arugula has a really short shelf life, it bolted QUICK. I succession planted a second crop but tbh I'm gonna need a third one soon. I really need to plant fewer seeds at a time.

I think I'll make spicy tuna & radish wraps with lettuce leaves for brunch. I mean, what else am I gonna do?

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 4 June 2020 13:56 (yesterday) link

get a pony

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 4 June 2020 14:59 (yesterday) link

Do they like radishes?

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 4 June 2020 15:06 (yesterday) link

I only tried radishes with one horse, who was not a fan. But salad greens? Those disappear in a hurry.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 4 June 2020 16:42 (yesterday) link

Can you pickle radishes? (and would you want pickled radishes?)

nickn, Thursday, 4 June 2020 17:40 (yesterday) link

Yes, and I don't know! I guess you use them the same as raw? Like to top tacos, salads, rice or quinoa bowls, and etc.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 4 June 2020 17:47 (yesterday) link

I'd show more pics but tbh I can't be arsed, it's so difficult from Google photos.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 4 June 2020 17:47 (yesterday) link

My one attempt at pickling ended in failure (serrano chilies), they were soft, even mushy, after not too long in the vinegar. Radishes should be easier, though.

nickn, Thursday, 4 June 2020 18:00 (yesterday) link

Alys Fowler does suggest pickling radishes:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/sep/23/alys-fowler-pickled-vegetables

djh, Thursday, 4 June 2020 18:52 (yesterday) link

japan to thread

brimstead, Thursday, 4 June 2020 18:55 (yesterday) link


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