We Still Have a Government, Right?: Canadian Politics 2020

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Huge jump in Canadian cases today--almost 800 after hovering around 300 for a week--that may be linked to this:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-covid-update-july-20-1.5655625

I really hope we're not walking right into what's happening next door. St. Marys is pretty much 100% masked now--a bylaw just took effect, although I don't think it's iron-clad enforceable (which doesn't really make sense to me). I've seen some moderately-sized backyard get-togethers--fewer than 10 people--but nothing crazy.

clemenza, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

180 new cases in Quebec today compared to 100 or so last week. I’m hoping mandatory face masks in indoor public spaces, which came into effect over the weekend, will make a difference in the long run.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link

Allegations that Payette is an abusive boss: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/julie-payette-governor-general-harassment-allegations-1.5657397

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link

She reportedly hates her job and always has.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link

What do y'all make of the stat I read today about BC: 189 Covid deaths in the province since the beginning of the year, and 728 opioid related deaths. Pretty shocking numbers tbh, really heartbreaking to read about.

(Also I'm not Canadian, just have many friends who are, particularly in Vancouver)

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link

yeah covid basically hardly happened here and we shut down the province, but each month has more overdose deaths than the total COVID deaths, and the last two months have been record-breakers.

safe-supply is obviously necessary as soon as possible, would definitely make a dent in the death toll. can't see it happening though

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

(overdoses have peaked in part because due to COVID people aren't allowed visitors in their SRO rooms and are using alone more)

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

If memory serves, BC had the first recorded case in Canada yet it somehow managed to keep the situation under control, quite unlike Quebec (1/4 of the country’s population) which still accounts for half of all covid-19 cases and 2/3 of related deaths in Canada. That said, opioids appear to be a way bigger problem in BC (and Ontario) than they are in Quebec. I have no idea why.

xp

pomenitul, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

even if this doesn't lead to real change, I am glad to see it: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/22/canada-us-safe-third-country-agreement-federal-court

rob, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

everything the URL promises:

https://globalnews.ca/news/7204384/coronavirus-glory-holes-sex/

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link

We briefly talked about it in the outbreak thread, but it’s probably safer if we restrict it to consenting Canadians.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link

Could technically work cross-border, though.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

Depends on what happens with the "safe third country" agreement am I right

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

:D

pomenitul, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I've worked in harm prevention before, so the reasons behind the skyrocketing opioid deaths are pretty obvious,.if remaining heartbreaking.

Re: opioids in Ontario and BC v. Quebec, I can only speak to BC, but it might have to do with west coast supply chains...the problem in California, Oregon, and Washington is also pretty bad.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link

Ah, that makes sense.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link

BQ leader Yves-François Blanchet (who was incidentally accused of sexual assault a couple of weeks ago as part of Quebec's second #metoo wave) is now calling, along with Andrew Scheer, for Trudeau and Morneau's resignation. Unlike Scheer, however, Blanchet says he's willing to present a motion of no confidence in September 'after conferring with the people of Quebec' (lol).

pomenitul, Friday, 24 July 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link

good luck with that

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 24 July 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

Hm, this could actually be really advantageous for the NDP if they play it right. They have enough seats to keep the Grits in power but, if they're (or they and the Greens are) the only party backing them, they could demand some significant policy concessions.

Those allegations are odd.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Friday, 24 July 2020 23:04 (three years ago) link

The We Charity was legit bad imo but, I mean, the deal was called off; doesn't seem worth toppling a govt over it at this point.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Friday, 24 July 2020 23:06 (three years ago) link

the second I see someone lay out a plausible, sensible plan of action for the NDP, the second I know they're gonna fuck it up.

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 24 July 2020 23:07 (three years ago) link

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/federally-backed-covid-alert-app-now-available-in-ontario-1.5046667

my buddy's assessment (a fellow tech writer):

For those with privacy concerns, the app descriptions and the app itself do a good job of explaining what data they collect and how it is collected. It seems to me like a good compromise.
For those without privacy concerns, I’d just get it. The app only becomes effective at high uptake levels.
If you want my professional opinion, A+ in-app technical writing please download to support technical writers.

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 31 July 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link

I set it up in like 30 seconds, no downside I can think of at all really

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 31 July 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link

am I right in thinking that in order for this to be effective, you'll need to have your Bluetooth on at all times (or at least when you leave the house)?

rob, Friday, 31 July 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link

that is my understanding

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 31 July 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link

but yes from what I can see this seems significantly less privacy-infringing than using, say, Google Maps (I'm in QC so I haven't actually downloaded the app of course)

rob, Friday, 31 July 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link

Right, I forgot to mention it's Ontario-only. IMO people should be pestering their respective provinces to use it as well

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 31 July 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link

I've got Québécois friends who reject this 'federalist' app on principle. I'm sure they'd be on board with it if it were filled to the brim with sovereignist spyware.

pomenitul, Friday, 31 July 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

lol

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Saturday, 1 August 2020 01:49 (three years ago) link

god I fuckin hate Quebec sometimes lol

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Saturday, 1 August 2020 10:21 (three years ago) link

also if you want to encounter the dumbest people alive read the comments on any article or post about the app. fuckin dark

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Saturday, 1 August 2020 10:28 (three years ago) link

Aw, come on, no reason to hate a whole province. More apps should be rejected on principle tbf.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Saturday, 1 August 2020 12:26 (three years ago) link

Tbf the PQ is effectively deceased at this point so these people are nowhere near as ubiquitous as they used to be. He (they're a couple) balks at everything Trudeau says and does (because of PET, you see) and she follows suit (partly because she's from France and is dead set on becoming as performatively Québécois as possible). They probably think I'm tacitly contributing to the downfall of Quebec by upholding friendships with monolingual anglos (never mind that their standoffish attitude towards the French language frustrates me too, and I call them out on it). Typing this feels like 1995 all over again, but in reality it only comes up, like, a couple of times a year? Nobody is seriously passionate about this shit anymore – even the hardcore anti-separatists have softened up.

pomenitul, Saturday, 1 August 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

I mean, I do think Trudeau is strongly federalist. Hard to be hardcore anti something that doesn't have a strong presence anymore.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Saturday, 1 August 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link

“A Quebecer is a Canadian and will remain so on my watch,” says Trudeau channeling his old man. #CanadaDebates2019

— Robert Benzie (@robertbenzie) October 8, 2019

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Saturday, 1 August 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link

Hah, tel père tel fils after all.

pomenitul, Saturday, 1 August 2020 16:51 (three years ago) link

"The Finance Committee has already heard from witnesses who said that if the government had simply run the CSSG in-house and avoided WE’s impressive overhead costs, it could have paid the program’s entire cohort a proper minimum wage.": https://www.macleans.ca/politics/ottawa/the-trudeau-we-testimony-what-you-wanted-a-micromanager/

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 5 August 2020 03:45 (three years ago) link

Does this mean we can keep hormone-pumped US milk out?

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 August 2020 23:31 (three years ago) link

Fingers crossed…

I found this bit amusing:

Flavio Volpe, president of the industry group for Canadian auto parts manufacturers, said Mr. Trump is only hurting his own economy, because everyone from the U.S. military to the Ford Motor Co. relies on Canada’s aluminum.

“Say what you will about Nero, but at least he was a hell of a fiddler. This guy’s burning it all down without a soundtrack,” he said.

pomenitul, Thursday, 6 August 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link

More on Julie Payette's GG angst: she has demanded a slew of renovations to Rideau Hall and still hasn't moved in: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rideau-hall-expenses-privacy-projects-1.5676088

This does suggest she might not have been the right fit for the job:


But Payette "wanted to come and go without anyone seeing her," said one source with knowledge of the project.

According to multiple sources, Payette doesn't like maintenance workers in her line of sight. Even RCMP paid to protect Payette are no longer allowed to stand directly outside her office door and must hide in a room down the hallway, according to a source with direct knowledge of the matter. Only some select staff currently have access to the restricted area by her office

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 August 2020 23:34 (three years ago) link

Yet another thing we have in common with Berlin. How cool is that?

pomenitul, Sunday, 9 August 2020 18:10 (three years ago) link

Blanchet says he will table a motion of no-confidence if Trudeau, Morneau, and Telford don't resign: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberal-government-pandemic-spending-we-charity-1.5683173

NDP could have their moment!

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link

if there was a new election I think we'd end up more or less the same?

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link

Just installed the COVID app btw.
xp We probably would, yeah: https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/poll-tracker/canada/ . I do still think they might not want an election and the NDP could work some advantage out of this if the Libs need their support. (They've been doing OK in terms of pressing for more generous emergency relief measures.)

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link

I don't think trudeau is going anywhere anytime soon. I'd be surprised to even see them get knocked down to a minority.

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link

I have been procrastinating about going through the process of becoming a citizen so this might mean I don't get to vote in the next federal election. on the other hand I live in the safest NDP riding in the country so no big loss

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link

I'd be surprised to even see them get knocked down to a minority.

B-b-but they DO have a minority.

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 18:08 (three years ago) link

I keep forgetting because the other parties are so meek tbh

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link


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