any name they gave was going to not live up to expectations at this point
nice echos back to other scenes where it's decided whether a child would be trained
also, nice switch on who Ahsoka was asking the location of
― mh, Friday, 27 November 2020 20:15 (three years ago) link
man that was a great ep - this season feels like it has really stepped up using inspired direction/design/atmosphere to compensate for the often insubstantial plotting - I don’t mean that as a diss in any way either, it’s a really compelling arrangement for a show like this
― the least famous person you were surprised to discover (emsworth), Friday, 27 November 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link
Oh no, baby Yoda has a name, and it sucks!
For a sec I was all "Wait, they named him Roku?"
man that was a great ep
Really was and I wasn't surprised that was a Filoni script/direct effort, talk about tying in things to the animated side pretty thoroughly. And yeah that was an unexpected thing for me when it came to what the big reveal of what's being sought was.
Three left to go for the season, right?
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 November 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link
Stupid Mandalorian making me tear up at the end. Gah.
― trishyb, Friday, 27 November 2020 22:04 (three years ago) link
I loved the panpipe Mando Theme as he walks up to sleeping baby Grogu. Lovely scene.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 27 November 2020 23:06 (three years ago) link
yeah, music really excellent throughout
― the least famous person you were surprised to discover (emsworth), Friday, 27 November 2020 23:10 (three years ago) link
Gotta love a Yoda theme nod or two.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 November 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link
btw, during the episode I kept thinking.. is that... Michael Biehn? And it was! Double the stunt-casting! Woohoo!
― Nhex, Friday, 27 November 2020 23:36 (three years ago) link
was he sober? the cast of a show I was in once bought a Cameo from Michael Biehn, and he appeared to be in the middle of a bender when he recorded it.
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 27 November 2020 23:40 (three years ago) link
his line readings sounded a little impaired
― mookieproof, Friday, 27 November 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link
fuck i love this show so muchRosario Dawson is a mighty warrior irl so it is v correct that she should be one hereStoked about Michael Biehn! - dude has been in b-movie purgatory for too long, it was great to finally see him in a big-ticket show like this. I think the last good thing he’d done before that was Planet Terror in 07. anyway gonna rewatch og 77 bc i am full of great feels for this kickass show
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 November 2020 05:48 (three years ago) link
Feels like they’re setting up another big character reveal (for the season finale?), but I can’t imagine who it would be. Well, actually, I have a guess...
― yes m!ch!gan - the feeling's forever (morrisp), Saturday, 28 November 2020 05:56 (three years ago) link
(Oh wait, that character’s dead already... never mind, lol)
― yes m!ch!gan - the feeling's forever (morrisp), Saturday, 28 November 2020 05:57 (three years ago) link
I refuse to recognize the name Grogu I’m still calling him Bartles and the shiny guy James I don’t care what anybody says— Jason Isbell (@JasonIsbell) November 28, 2020
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 November 2020 07:12 (three years ago) link
I like it cuz it sounds like “Grover,” so there’s sort of a deep Frank Oz connection.
― meditate in my direction (morrisp), Saturday, 28 November 2020 07:23 (three years ago) link
Gordo
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 November 2020 07:37 (three years ago) link
Gavin
― the least famous person you were surprised to discover (emsworth), Saturday, 28 November 2020 08:58 (three years ago) link
For all my "Jesus, I hope we don't get bogged down in a whole load of boring Jedi bullshit" stance, the second I heard the lightsaber power up, I got a tingle along my arms. A function of age, probably.
An excellent episode. Obviously the name is a letdown, but oh man, when Rosario Dawson talked about things going dark for him when he was (presumably) being held and experimented on, and the revelation that his powers are shaky because he deliberately hides them to keep himself safe, well, that just broke my heart for the little chap. The cynical bit in my head is going "typical bloody Disney", while I'm trying not to cry at the fucking Mandalorian, of all things.
It also shows just how much he wanted those blue macarons.
― trishyb, Saturday, 28 November 2020 09:48 (three years ago) link
Grogu the youngling who lived
― Roz, Saturday, 28 November 2020 09:53 (three years ago) link
Typical Disney is right but in all the best (classic) ways. OTM post. This one hit so many things for me that are the best parts of the essence of SW past and current. And my heart broke for the little guy, too.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 28 November 2020 10:00 (three years ago) link
Stylistically this ep was a peak.
Easy enough to speculate that the Jedi that might respond to Grogu (how can this be a bad name?!) will be de-aged Luke although I guess it could also be Palps as Snoke or however that stupid idea might almost work
― nashwan, Saturday, 28 November 2020 13:16 (three years ago) link
I was hoping his name was Minch
― mh, Saturday, 28 November 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link
xp probably notgoing to be really sad if the coda ending text of The Mandalorian is “Grogu joined the new jedi academy at was later slaughtered by Kylo Ren several decades following our tale”
― mh, Saturday, 28 November 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link
I don't get the emotional connection with Baby Google that others are having here but I appreciate the construction, the design, the acting, the tone and the state of constant crescendo. The initial novelty of being back in the star wars universe sans cynicism is waning under the weight of this season's consistent fanservice and integration of first trilogy history but they're mostly keeping it light enough that I don't feel the need to check a wiki. Considering the demographic they're trying to reach, that feels like a triumph.
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 November 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link
xp His absence in the new movies (which are otherwise “all hands on deck” in terms of surviving characters) does sort of raise the question.
― meditate in my direction (morrisp), Saturday, 28 November 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link
I think the whole series makes the case that there are just other stories/other people out there doing their thing on their own terms. If anything, the encounter with Ashoka -- pretty much on that path as well -- underscores it. Combine that with the fact that Grogu isn't going to be that much older comparatively by the time of the sequel trilogy and I'm good with it (because he's already 50 years old and still a baby).
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 November 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link
That’s true, though the last movie gave a hint as to even Ashoka’s fate. I thought this series would very much be an “other stories” kind of thing, but it’s being pulled by the Filoni centrifuge back into the core narrative again!
― meditate in my direction (morrisp), Saturday, 28 November 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link
A pal (who’s more into this stuff than me) theorized that the next Jedi reveal may be Ezra Bridger
― meditate in my direction (morrisp), Saturday, 28 November 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link
Would love an Ezra and Baby Groguda series with Rebels folks popping in
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 28 November 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link
As somebody who has no knowledge of the Star Wars universe outside the main movies, I just want to attest that this series totally works if you treat all of what's apparently fanservice as "here's a new cool character."
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 28 November 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link
^ agree. that’s where I’m at
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 November 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link
also btw Elspeth Morgan was played by Diana Lee Inosanto - a great martial artist in her own right (who I first came to know as Buffy’s stunt double in the tv series) ... she’s also Dan Inosanto’s daughter & Bruce Lee’s goddaughter, so she has the ~receipts~ so ALL the cool kids came to the party this week
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 November 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link
Thanks for that — I figured she had to be some big deal!
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 November 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link
I have been excited seeing Mr Kim as an x-wing pilot.
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 November 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link
I loved this episode so much. Was anyone else stoked to hear Grand Admiral Thrawn's name?
― cajunsunday, Saturday, 28 November 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link
Yes, this is me too. I appreciate the tone of the conversation on this thread, where I learn the connections, but there is no "do you even Star Wars?"
― trishyb, Saturday, 28 November 2020 20:59 (three years ago) link
Sorta want gorgu to die anonymously and basically unknown, as one who was secretly superpowerful but horribly damaged. Lost to history because of weird circumstantial bullshit, but whose cryptosuperhits will be revived by gnostic hipsters. also, weirdly adorable and charismatic.what?
― pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Saturday, 28 November 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link
Was anyone else stoked to hear
You were definitely not alone.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 November 2020 21:46 (three years ago) link
I'm satisfied that they addressed my earlier quibble of—how come Yoda was training others at 100 years old, and Grogu is still a “baby” at 50? Turns out he probably should be talking, etc., but has been traumatized by his ordeal.
― meditate in my direction (morrisp), Saturday, 28 November 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link
400 years
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 28 November 2020 22:04 (three years ago) link
Yoda?
Around the age of 100, Yoda was ready to pass on what he had learned. Having attained the rank of Master, he spent the next eight centuries training and tutoring generations of Jedi. It was estimated that over his lifetime, he trained around 20,000 Jedi.
― meditate in my direction (morrisp), Saturday, 28 November 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link
i thought he says 400 in empire (im not debating i'm sure the internet is right)
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 28 November 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link
I think he says “For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi” (and he’s nearly 900)
― meditate in my direction (morrisp), Saturday, 28 November 2020 22:28 (three years ago) link
RIGHT
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 28 November 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link
thanks for that info on Diana Lee Inosanto above
― Nhex, Saturday, 28 November 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link
np!
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 29 November 2020 01:24 (three years ago) link
Maybe Yoda was training Jedis for like 760 years and he just rounded up.
― Ape Hole Road (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 29 November 2020 02:50 (three years ago) link
Still great TV, but I felt unsatisfied by this episode, probably because it entangled the ongoing story with the Not-The-Movies-Verse in a way that didn’t do justice to our latest character and just opened a lot of new unanswered questions. 1. Anybody who’s watched clone wars and rebels knows Ahsoka is capable of winning the duel with the magistrate in a walk, I mean come on. 2. Who saved Grogu (obviously a brand of scandinavian yogurt) from the Jedi temple on Coruscant? What happened to him in the 30+ year interim?3. Mando’s quickdraw with the enforcer & his surprise droid would have been fun standing alone, but muddled together with Ahsoka’s duel it just ended up being overly predictable.
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Sunday, 29 November 2020 03:43 (three years ago) link
I imagine your questions in point #2 will eventually be answered. Agree the action was somewhat predictable and clichéd (and the dialogue wooden). It was a “good” episode in terms of meaty and consequential developments, but maybe not so much in how it actually played out (as opposed to, say, the episode with the aerial hijacking).
― meditate in my direction (morrisp), Sunday, 29 November 2020 04:13 (three years ago) link
we don't need The Child's backstory after that point, frankly. not really interested in seeing medical torture flashbacks
― Nhex, Sunday, 29 November 2020 04:36 (three years ago) link