Parasite (new Bong Joon Ho movie)

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Kinda surprised there's no thread for this considering the director, that it won the Palme, getting considerable buzz, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isOGD_7hNIY

Anyway, saw it last night and it absolutely floored me. It's pretty much the movie that I wanted Us to be.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Sunday, 22 September 2019 19:29 (two months ago) link

Is it too early to discuss the ending

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Sunday, 22 September 2019 19:32 (two months ago) link

yes

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 September 2019 19:37 (two months ago) link

great movie, his best since MoM

Simon H., Sunday, 22 September 2019 19:49 (two months ago) link

high praise indeed, can't wait to see this.

calzino, Sunday, 22 September 2019 19:52 (two months ago) link

Simon, how can I discuss the ending with you

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Sunday, 22 September 2019 19:56 (two months ago) link

lol let's just wait a couple months

Simon H., Sunday, 22 September 2019 21:51 (two months ago) link

yeah this was awesome and best enjoyed if you didn't know anything about it beforehand imo.

no spoilers, but while I thought the whole cast were uniformly good, Park So-Dam was particularly great as Ki Jung/Jessica.

Roz, Monday, 23 September 2019 14:31 (two months ago) link

the sheer level of craft on display in like every second of this thing just puts so, so much other shit to shame, even if there's some stuff near the end that faltered a teensy bit for me

Simon H., Monday, 23 September 2019 14:42 (two months ago) link

even the "eccentric" ending that you aren't allowed to talk about wasn't enough to undo how fine this movie was. Best Bong Joon Ho since The Host.

calzino, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 07:58 (two months ago) link

It was actually the climax I took slight exception to; felt less inventive than the rest of the movie

Simon H., Tuesday, 24 September 2019 08:51 (two months ago) link

there are a few things I didn't like about the last act, but just minor quibbles really, after seeing a totally ace director back on his game after making dross like Snowpiercer and that awful tv movie, I'm not going to criticise them.

calzino, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 10:12 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Good interview/profile of Bong Joon-Ho: https://www.vulture.com/2019/10/bong-joon-ho-parasite.html

Roz, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:57 (two months ago) link

I totally agree with "Best Bong Joon Ho since The Host" but that's not much of a bar to rise to. This was good! It was not great.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 17 October 2019 04:18 (one month ago) link

Finding out that Bong storyboards the shit out of his films and then gives the actors the storyboards as scripts explained a lot to me. He's filming comic books i think and there's nothing wrong with that. Some of those shots (the "ghost" surprising the child rising from the downstairs in particular) feel indelible for it.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 17 October 2019 04:20 (one month ago) link

OK, it's out this weekend in most of North America. Let's go

Anyway, saw it last night and it absolutely floored me. It's pretty much the movie that I wanted Us to be.

otm. I didn't think it was a masterpiece, but close. pacing felt off in the finale, feel like some momentum was lost between the family suddenly coming home and the birthday party. I loved that ending of course, but was shocked that there were 30 mins left when the rich couple fucked on the couch.

I thought Burning was better but this is a more accessible movie about class/wealth stratification in South Korea. Glad it's doing such great business.

flappy bird, Saturday, 26 October 2019 21:08 (one month ago) link

by Bong I've only seen this and The Host, which was fine but nothing special. did Okja ever come out on disc?

flappy bird, Saturday, 26 October 2019 21:09 (one month ago) link

thought this was fine

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Saturday, 26 October 2019 21:21 (one month ago) link

burning was a lot better, on similar themes

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Saturday, 26 October 2019 21:22 (one month ago) link

This movie was just awesome. Kid wanted to see it (she’s into kpop so it made sense.)

nathom, Saturday, 26 October 2019 22:23 (one month ago) link

This is something else.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Sunday, 27 October 2019 01:45 (one month ago) link

as far as class warfare movies go, i would say

Burning=Shoplifters > La Ceremonie =Parasite >>>>Snowpiercer=Sorry to Bother You

still need to see Us, Ready or Not, Hustlers

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 27 October 2019 03:15 (one month ago) link

It's pretty much the movie that I wanted Us to be.

Oh good, other people picked up on the doppelganger element. I liked it as a black comedy of inequality and the "problems" of one-percenter parents. The subsequent excursion into thriller/horror fits, but I agree that the film would have profited from a tightening up of the running time.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Sunday, 27 October 2019 23:10 (one month ago) link

I loved Us! I think as much as Get Out

haven't seen Parasite yet but based on Okja, Snowpiercer I'm only somewhat hopeful

Dan S, Sunday, 27 October 2019 23:24 (one month ago) link

Parasite is so much better than either Okja or Snowpiercer.

Roz, Monday, 28 October 2019 01:55 (one month ago) link

never seen okja but snowpiercer is hot garbage.

Memories of Murder and Mother are both capital G Great films and The Host is a double capital G Great Genre film

i've avoided seeing Okja because he is sure as shit gonna make me feel for the big hippo thing and then kill it. i've played the last guardian; can't fool me again

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 28 October 2019 03:41 (one month ago) link

I liked this a lot. The symbolism is club-you-over-the-head, but it works despite/because of that. And it's pretty funny through the first two-thirds. I didn't mind the ending, it felt like that was where it was always headed.

this was kind of a hot mess? it definitely shook me but i'm not sure i enjoyed the ride. idk so many "powerful" things leave me feeling exhausted these days.

cheese canopy (map), Monday, 4 November 2019 18:19 (one month ago) link

Didn't really seem like a mess to me, I thought it was pretty tightly constructed.

oh no it was extremely tight of course (although maybe there were some pacing / pov issues near the end that could have been handled more carefully?), it was just too slickly constructed and hyper-meaningful for my tastes. like i think i respect that it's aiming to be a shakespearean tragedy about capitalism but it's also in the form of a 32 oz monster energy drink and it was all too much for me tbh.

cheese canopy (map), Monday, 4 November 2019 19:37 (one month ago) link

i mean i definitely *felt* a lot during this movie but it was ultimately kind of exhausting. of course it was also funny throughout but the humor was also too frenetic for me. like i laughed louder when renee zelwegger pushed the bad sculpture off its pedestal in front of her ex's house in the otherwise very sad but also similarly profound judy garland biopic that i saw last weekend, maybe because the humorous moment had a bit more space around it and r.z.'s performance in that movie is extremely good.

cheese canopy (map), Monday, 4 November 2019 19:44 (one month ago) link

there's several indelible images stuck in my mind from this film even now (the "ghost" shocking the boy eating cake, the kick down the stairs, shaving peachfuzz) but this isn't a super thoughtful or challenging movie... i'm fairly certain it was never meant to be.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 November 2019 19:52 (one month ago) link

the image stuck in my head is the dogs eating the meat on the skewer stuck in the corpse

cheese canopy (map), Monday, 4 November 2019 19:58 (one month ago) link

yeah that's a good one

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 November 2019 19:59 (one month ago) link

at least what it says about the trauma of capitalism is true. it may not be super challenging or whatever but it's otm, and in the form of a slapstick comedy/thriller. for instance, how the trauma of capitalism perpetuates itself across generations and how it's larger than any bogeyman character. idk these aren't exactly the easiest concepts to present in a mainstream film? but tbh i don't watch very many movies so.

cheese canopy (map), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:05 (one month ago) link

quoting myself upthread but if you want to see some other films in the same vein that are as good/better:

Burning=Shoplifters > La Ceremonie =Parasite >>>>Snowpiercer=Sorry to Bother You

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:07 (one month ago) link

haha thanks though i'm not sure i have it in me to watch a film with similar themes for .. a while

cheese canopy (map), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:08 (one month ago) link

it's also in the form of a 32 oz monster energy drink and it was all too much for me tbh.

haha, yeah that's a fair description.

Its central arguments and symbolism are super on-the-nose, but for me they landed with some oomph because the writing, acting and filmmaking were all sharp and often funny. (Until they weren't.) The long scene where they descend and descend and descend from the rich house to their semi-basement apartment, in a growing flood, only to find their home literally submerged in shit — on the paper that's grindingly obvious, but in the execution it was scary and heartbreaking.

I actually liked this more than Burning — or enjoyed it more, I guess. I liked Burning but it felt a little remote to me, unsurprising given its source material.

i dunno, there's so many moments in Burning that felt like pure honest complex dreams to me. it's a more mystical film i guess, don't think i'd say remote?
my sense is that a lot of folks who fell head over heels for parasite (and why it's so very popular) is that audiences are self-congratulating themselves on appreciating the complex class issues of what amounts to a cartoon. but maybe i'm being snobby i dunno.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:17 (one month ago) link

i have at least four friends who basically never see movies who were raving to me about how brilliant this was and i feel like a total dorkus malorkus saying "yeah, i love the director and i saw this twice and it was... very good" and then they're all like "WHY DON'T YOU LOVE IT?!?!?" and there's no way to adequately explain that without referencing a lot of his films and other people's films that i know they haven't seen.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:19 (one month ago) link

maybe the right answer to "why don't you love it" is to give them a thumb drive with Mother and Memories of Murder on it and ask them to check back with me in three months when they get around to watching it to see it they agree?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:21 (one month ago) link

i was SO taken with those two movies and then host was such a great oddball genre film that i was psyched to go wherever this guy wanted to go and then, well, snowpiercer.
with parasite, i think i've come to the conclusion that Bong is an immense and great stylist but that he's not going to likely level up into something more highbrow and affecting now that he has more money and fame a'la Park Chan Wook or Lynch. Maybe you could make a comparison to Miike? Dunno.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:24 (one month ago) link

Yeah he's definitely more of a populist/popcorn director than e.g. Lee Chang-dong. But he's an interesting and talented one, I think. I agree that Mother is probably his best movie, and it is surprising in a lot of ways — stylistically and narratively — that Parasite isn't.

i really like him! i'm just in the unpleasant indie fuck position of being unable to avoid saying "his earlier films are much better"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCqjR1gHyIQ
in any case your post made me realize i should see more Chang-dong, so thanks for that! recommendation for the best one to jump into?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:36 (one month ago) link

Besides Burning I only know Secret Sunshine and Poetry, both good.

will try poetry and report back

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:40 (one month ago) link

mother was the one for me too

cheese canopy (map), Monday, 4 November 2019 21:19 (one month ago) link

it's been a while but i remember thinking it was on par with great hitchcock

cheese canopy (map), Monday, 4 November 2019 21:20 (one month ago) link

I liked this a lot more than Burning but I would never think to compare them.

Simon H., Monday, 4 November 2019 21:24 (one month ago) link

Thinking about going to Atlanta in early December, hope it's still showing somewhere then.

WmC, Sunday, 24 November 2019 15:31 (two weeks ago) link

This is the only thread in ilx history where I agree with Ulysses more than Brad Nelson

Good but found the second half idk ... somewhat arbitrary in parts despite its obvious straightforwardness ... not sure it delivered on the perfection of the initial premise. It wants to be get out but it’s more like black panther

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 24 November 2019 18:25 (two weeks ago) link

But really it's like Us in some very obvious ways.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 24 November 2019 18:28 (two weeks ago) link

i mean this is also the kind of movie where i can understand people disagreeing with the second half. my main issue with this film is the last ten minutes or so felt a little loose, but i wonder if i'd feel that way rewatching it

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 24 November 2019 18:35 (two weeks ago) link

also i have not seen memories of murder or mother so i do not feel like i'm speaking with the depth of knowledge ulysses has of the bong joon-ho oeuvre

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 24 November 2019 18:37 (two weeks ago) link

It wants to be get out but it’s more like black panther

what

Simon H., Sunday, 24 November 2019 19:14 (two weeks ago) link

lol

gbx, Sunday, 24 November 2019 19:24 (two weeks ago) link

Idk what’s so hard to understand about that ... it may not literally end w a community center in the slums but it’s vision ends up being similarly limited imo ... I honestly thought the film would take its initial premise to its logical conclusion and end w the family murdering and replacing the original one but instead his plan is to make enough money to buy the house his dad is trapped in ... kind of a depressing ending & not in the sense that it pointed out a depressing reality but that it created a depressing reality ...

Idk i thought lots of parts of this movie were good but it’s not “get out” or “gone girl” level as far as having the courage of its ideological convictions imo ... it also feels like it’s getting a substantial critical boost bc of proximity to the new socialist zeitgeist

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 24 November 2019 19:53 (two weeks ago) link

Having the family kill/replace the other in the end would not have made it a better or "more courageous" movie, just a lazier and less resonant one.

Simon H., Sunday, 24 November 2019 20:05 (two weeks ago) link

but it's funny you should make a Get Out comparison 'cause this Outline piece ties it to Us as part of the "Revolutionary Gothic"

Interpreting Parasite and Us in tandem, regardless of their differences, helps us understand crucial and complicated elements they share. In both movies, the violence enacted by the subterranean specters is emotionally and morally fraught — exactly who deserves to suffer or die like this, and why? Is it doing anyone any good? Once we understand these movies as Revolutionary Gothic, it becomes clear that’s the wrong question. We’d have to start with: Why wouldn’t we expect spectacular violence to erupt from the hidden violence of forcing human beings underground? Why would we expect the ghosts we’ve created not to haunt us?

Such violence may not be successful in destroying the dominant order; it may not even be coherent. Parasite makes a series of intricate moves with its characters’ insurrectionary impulses: Geun-sae nurtures an unhinged love for the patriarch of the Park family, to whom he sends a series of increasingly deranged, wholly unreceived Morse code messages from his basement cell. When Geun-sae emerges from his dungeon, he genuflects to his idol Mr. Park, even as the circumstances that have led him to revere the man collapse all around him. In the end, it’s the father of the Kim family, Ki-taek, who stabs Mr. Park to death. There are many reasons that lead to this final murder, but the most immediate is the consuming rage Ki-taek feels when he sees that Mr. Park finds the body of Geun-sae — a man who died gasping out his respect for his perceived better — repulsive and stinky.

Here, violence is less a clean solution to oppression than a messy response to despair and desperation. The violence doesn’t even necessarily disrupt the hierarchies it responds to, as we see in Parasite’s catharsis-denying ending. Revolutionary Gothic is less about the inevitability of overthrow than the inevitability of rupture, of all that haunts us coming back for a reckoning. These stories don’t try to comfort us with victory; they unsettle us with the implications of ongoing defeat.

https://theoutline.com/post/8279/parasite-us-revolutionary-gothic?zd=1&zi=ojs7ot2u

Simon H., Sunday, 24 November 2019 20:15 (two weeks ago) link

Having the family kill/replace the other in the end would not have made it a better or "more courageous" movie, just a lazier and less resonant one.

― Simon H., Sunday, 24 November 2019 20:05 (fourteen minutes ago) link

Lol how is it lazier? Sincere question. There was never a moment I was really *surprised* by this film—despite not knowing the details of who was going to be stabbed or when from a symbolic POV it doesn’t matter; the entire story exists as documentation of a shared status quo that reaffirms its audiences understanding of the way things are rather than undermining or subverting those expectations

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 24 November 2019 20:25 (two weeks ago) link

Coincidentally, I was looking up the real-life cases after watching the movie, and it turns out the police finally solved them in the past few months

I was at opening night with Bong in NYC and they asked him about this and he said he was a little disappointed in that the film is no longer relevant in the same way! Then quickly buttressed that with "well, obviously it's good they solved the murders"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 24 November 2019 21:24 (two weeks ago) link

It wants to be get out but it’s more like black panther

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, November 24, 2019 1:25 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

But really it's like Us in some very obvious ways.

― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, November 24, 2019 1:28 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

get out > parasite >>>>>>>>> Us >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> black panther

flopson, Sunday, 24 November 2019 23:26 (two weeks ago) link

Simon H otm - the Kims replacing the Parks would have been a terrible ending.

The scene where they’re reunited again at the end is a fantasy and they all know it - Ki Woo was never going to be rich enough to save his father. They’re all stuck in the same place they’ve always been because late stage capitalism and the dream of upward mobility is a lie. Maybe that’s not a surprising ending but it is the logical one to me and which also underscores Bong’s aversion from making heroes out of the plucky poor family against the evil rich people. There are no such heroes in (t)his world.

Roz, Monday, 25 November 2019 00:26 (two weeks ago) link

he was a little disappointed in that the film is no longer relevant in the same way. Then quickly buttressed that with "well, obviously it's good they solved the murders"

Lol I understand feeling slightly annoyed in his position, but c'mon. Anyway I read the murders are past the statute of limitations so the movie is still very relevant: in both the movie and irl, justice can't be served!

Vinnie, Monday, 25 November 2019 01:47 (two weeks ago) link

There was never a moment I was really *surprised* by this film—despite not knowing the details of who was going to be stabbed or when from a symbolic POV it doesn’t matter; the entire story exists as documentation of a shared status quo that reaffirms its audiences understanding of the way things are rather than undermining or subverting those expectations

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, November 24, 2019 8:25 PM (yesterday)


The two most emotionally wrenching scenes, for me, were the Kim family hiding in the listening room and hearing Mr. Park complain about their father's smell; and Ki-woo and Chung-sook visiting Ki-jeong's cremains in the low-rent memorial park while a janitor drives a floor-scrubber across the background. Only one of these scenes strikes me as documentary realism.

handsome boy modelling software (bernard snowy), Monday, 25 November 2019 02:05 (two weeks ago) link

Oh, I forgot a third: Geun-sae watching his wife die on the floor of the basement a few yards away from him, unable to move closer or offer her any sort of comfort in her final moments. (Almost too on-the-nose, at least as regards the United States.)

handsome boy modelling software (bernard snowy), Monday, 25 November 2019 02:09 (two weeks ago) link

But anyway the point I am trying to make is that if I want to be challenged by a discursive presentation of novel ideas – I'll read an essay.

A film can have the most banal ideas in the world (Post-industrial capitalism pits poor people against one another for the opportunity to catch rich people's crumbs in degrading service positions??? You don't say!) and still move me with the force of its vision.

handsome boy modelling software (bernard snowy), Monday, 25 November 2019 02:24 (two weeks ago) link

I also found the movie struggling to hold itself together in the second half fwiw

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 November 2019 02:25 (two weeks ago) link

Gratifyingly, though, the normal non-critic people whom I've talked to also acknowledge it doesn't quite work but are thrilled anyway. In that respect, it reminds me of the Get Out era two years ago when a mass audience responded to a film that didn't condescend to them because it dared to work in populist terms.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 November 2019 02:27 (two weeks ago) link

this was great. why not have a popular, accessible movie that addresses class issues? I think it's great that a foreign film is doing this well at the box office in the US as well.

akm, Thursday, 28 November 2019 17:15 (one week ago) link

the most banal ideas in the world (Post-industrial capitalism pits poor people against one another for the opportunity to catch rich people's crumbs in degrading service positions??? You don't say!)

shrug

flopson, Friday, 29 November 2019 00:22 (one week ago) link

I saw this tonight and was very impressed by it. It's hard to say I "loved" it bc it's not really a loveable film, but it was an intense experience, visually excellent, and an unusual mix of tones and styles (which I found to be a strength rather than weakness).

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 30 November 2019 05:05 (one week ago) link

The Marxist allegorical stuff *is* on the nose, but I can't say it was *too* on the nose at all -- if anything I thought the film had a lot of fun with the class tropes by blending in just the right amount of absurdism.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 30 November 2019 05:07 (one week ago) link

subtlety is overrated

Simon H., Saturday, 30 November 2019 06:14 (one week ago) link

The reality of class is so blatant that I'm not sure depicting it subtly would be a good thing

JRN, Saturday, 30 November 2019 07:34 (one week ago) link

Something about the moment the basement vault is first opened felt very, idk, Terry Gilliam? I liked that part of the film a lot, the sort of fissure in reality that happens.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 30 November 2019 18:46 (one week ago) link

I thought this was great. The descent into surreal absurdism that veered into violence was really well done and thrilling IMO.

I told my date when the family was getting drunk in the living room "this is going to blow up spectacularly" but I thought it was going to be more along the lines of the dad actually punching the mom

brigadier pudding (DJP), Saturday, 30 November 2019 23:55 (one week ago) link

Yes the way that went down was great -- the set up is obviously leading to some kind of farcical moment where you find out the Parks are on their way back and everyone has to hide or sneak out (they're going camping and it's pouring rain!), but then the movie just smacks you over the head with a mallet.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 1 December 2019 03:53 (one week ago) link

this was really good but it bothered me that they let the old housekeeper in - why would they have done that? other than to move the plot forward, of course.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 1 December 2019 21:23 (one week ago) link

Because it was late and raining and she was begging and she seemed harmless and they had been drinking and the rest of the family figured they could just hide.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 1 December 2019 21:30 (one week ago) link

can I say the frottage sex scene was super hot?

akm, Sunday, 1 December 2019 23:41 (one week ago) link

Yeah and I agree, felt very real too.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 2 December 2019 00:19 (one week ago) link

can I say the dog eating skewered meat off the corpse was super hot?

💠 (crüt), Monday, 2 December 2019 00:21 (one week ago) link

that was super sexy

akm, Monday, 2 December 2019 00:32 (one week ago) link

Someone remind me — who wound up jabbing the skewer into that dudes leg? I lost it in the whole melee.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 2 December 2019 00:54 (one week ago) link

This is pretty good -- I like the way the family careens around their employers' mansion -- til the last third, when Bong's approach is as blunt and heavy as that big rock. The social message, whatever it is, becomes a muddle.

Lots better than those last two annoyances he made tho.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 December 2019 04:47 (one week ago) link

I like the way the family careens around their employers' mansion

this was my fave part too. lots of crouched runs and slithers and silent hurrying up and down staircases. rapid rock-steady tracks along the x-axis. the bourgeois privilege of space

dog eating skewered meat struck me as a blue velvet rip, just the lil angle it's cocked at

loved the ghost scene

kind of had map's reaction to this for some reason--

it definitely shook me but i'm not sure i enjoyed the ride. idk so many "powerful" things leave me feeling exhausted these days.... like i think i respect that it's aiming to be a shakespearean tragedy about capitalism but it's also in the form of a 32 oz monster energy drink and it was all too much for me tbh.

--(despite tanking a 24oz monster as recently as 4:00 this morning) but it's fun to talk about w people it thrilled, which... is a real trick tbh

difficult listening hour, Monday, 2 December 2019 08:35 (one week ago) link

don't mean to sound so detached, it def thrilled me; i guess i mean people who had a rly good time being thrilled

difficult listening hour, Monday, 2 December 2019 08:41 (one week ago) link

Someone remind me — who wound up jabbing the skewer into that dudes leg? I lost it in the whole melee.

It was his side; that's why dude died. The mom did it.

brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 2 December 2019 13:33 (one week ago) link

I think it's too angry to work as a tragedy. That's why the violent conclusion worked for me. After a couple of hours of more or less black comedy, it suddenly descends into outright bloody rage.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 December 2019 15:12 (one week ago) link

well yeah. I prefer black comedy, which also has plenty o' rage

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 December 2019 15:20 (one week ago) link

tbc, it definitely left me unsettled, idk if I'd say I "enjoyed the ride." I was extremely tensed up when the credits rolled.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 2 December 2019 16:05 (one week ago) link

i was giggling p much the entire time

flopson, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 00:58 (one week ago) link

Before all the screenings at the Lincoln Center movieplex, they're showing a NYFF clip where the cast brought out peaches to give the audience before the Q&A.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 01:12 (one week ago) link

I couldn't imagine watching this again, in part because of the last third.

On the other hand, I'm glad it's a hit, and people were laughing at my screening.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 01:40 (one week ago) link

ppl are speculating on getting AA *nods*

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 01:44 (one week ago) link

also I didn't like Snowpiercer at all.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 13:59 (one week ago) link

This is a great audience movie! And it's funny! Until it's not.

Simon H., Tuesday, 3 December 2019 14:03 (one week ago) link

I felt like the weird guy who was laughing a lot more than the rest of the audience in my very full theater.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 19:52 (one week ago) link


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