James Gray's "inward-looking" sci-fi film AD ASTRA starring Brad Pitt

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yeah I am excited about this

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:20 (two months ago) link

Gray is one of my favorite journeyman directors. Didn't this get delayed a lot? From what little they give away in the trailers it seems to have some Interstellar vibes.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:28 (two months ago) link

how do you define "journeyman"?

I have my screening next week.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 00:08 (two months ago) link

I mean that every one of his films is very different from the one before it, like a classic studio system director.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 00:11 (two months ago) link

Like here, which I just found:

http://collider.com/journeyman-directors-explained/

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 00:11 (two months ago) link

he's not a 'journeyman' to me; not even in the auteurist Allan Dwan sense

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 00:31 (two months ago) link

I read "journeyman" and think, I dunno, Henry Hathaway or something

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 00:32 (two months ago) link

more like Jack Smight

p sure the guy who wrote the Collider thing has not seen any pre-Jaws movies

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 00:34 (two months ago) link

every one of his films is very different from the one before it, like a classic studio system director.

the difference is I believe Gray originates all his projects. Also a lot of commonalities in the ones before (or even through) The Immigrant.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 00:39 (two months ago) link

Yeah, I guess that's a distinction. No one is bringing him projects.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 00:53 (two months ago) link

Like, Curtis Hanson, that's the type of director I'm thinking of.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 00:58 (two months ago) link

ughhh

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 01:00 (two months ago) link

I like Hanson.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 01:01 (two months ago) link

It’s very interesting, because they have found that it’s a very different thing for the astronauts that go up 200 miles up in the ISS, where the Earth is still most of your vision when you look out the window.... And it’s a very different psychological effect, apparently. They don’t know for sure what would happen the further you go out, but they’re anticipating that it has potentially serious consequences. When the Earth is just a blue dot, what does that mean?

So, this certainly went into the kind of thought process that Brad and I had discussed about the character. It became very important to us, this idea that the Earth all of a sudden gets smaller and smaller, and the sun gets smaller and smaller. All the things that we know—all the things that are tangible and beautiful—seem further and further away. We thought this was an excellent context for something....

You know, I have huge admiration for Alfonso Cuarón, because I don’t know how he made that movie Gravity, knowing now what it is. What we tried to do, as much as we could, was go old school. We built two sets; a horizontal set, and then a vertical one. On the horizontal set, you would put the actor on a moving rig. And then the vertical, you’re shooting from the bottom looking up, and you hang the actor on wires. Usually, they’re blocking the wires. When they’re not, you paint them out. It’s a very effective effect when you combine the two sets, and the wides and the close-ups....

It’s basically like making a kind of semi 3D painting. You have pre- and post-vis, but it doesn’t really approximate what the thing is going to look like, and you have to get it right. If you make a mistake in judging the animation, they turn to you and they say, “What are you talking about? That’s rendered. You did that with the animation you chose.” So, I realize I really have to be so specific about the animation on a very basic level. And that was painstaking. That took forever.

https://deadline.com/2019/08/ad-astra-james-gray-interview-sci-fi-future-fox-venice-1202705879/

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 September 2019 18:21 (two months ago) link

“There’s a level of bullshit that the culture is now embracing,” Gray said. “The other day, the doctor is poking around my pancreas, and he’s, like, ‘You see “The Avengers 2”?’ I’m, like, ‘No.’ He said, ‘Why not?’ I’m, like, ‘I’m not nine!’ ” Gray thought that public reporting of movies’ gross profits, a practice that took off in the eighties, changed the popular conception of what a successful film looked like. (“My dad will say, ‘That was a very big hit!’ I’ll be, like, ‘I don’t think you’re a stockholder in Time Warner!’ ”)

johnny crunch, Monday, 9 September 2019 21:00 (two months ago) link

uh oh he's flirting with getting an old man gif ILX'd at him

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 September 2019 21:09 (two months ago) link

I’m, like, ‘I’m not nine!’

lol these movies aren't for 9yos, they're for manbabies

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 September 2019 21:35 (two months ago) link

“They rate everything according to Francis Ford Coppola movies,” Ali Gray explained. A superb meal on Gross’s scale is a “Godfather.” A meal better than superb is a “Godfather II.” One that’s rewarding but an acquired taste (such as Gray’s lemon fettuccine with jalapeños) is an “Apocalypse Now.” Once, there was a “Jack” meal, but they don’t talk about it.

Fuck this dude; he can fall under a bus.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 9 September 2019 22:18 (two months ago) link

I'm seeing this on thursday :) Quite excited, and I'm not really the biggest Gray-fan anyway.

Frederik B, Monday, 9 September 2019 22:46 (two months ago) link

I'm a fan (less so of Brad Pitt), and I'll be there Thursday.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 September 2019 22:52 (two months ago) link

I've seen two, maybe three of his movies (Little Odessa, We Own The Night, and I might have seen The Immigrant, I don't remember). Zero interest in the others, this one included.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 9 September 2019 23:01 (two months ago) link

Two Lovers and Lost City of Z flirt with greatness often.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 September 2019 23:05 (two months ago) link

haven't seen his other films but I liked The Lost City of Z

Dan S, Monday, 9 September 2019 23:07 (two months ago) link

We Own the Night is such a weird clunky obvious movie that I feel it's almost a commentary on something. I thought it looked great but felt very stupid.

omar little, Monday, 9 September 2019 23:08 (two months ago) link

Oh, I'm seeing this thing! But had to bail on that New Yorker profile 1/3 of the way in. Excruciating, and not because Gray himself is a ludicrous human being.

Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 9 September 2019 23:09 (two months ago) link

I even liked large bits of We Own the Night. He has a gravity that never turns to camp.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 September 2019 23:15 (two months ago) link

the weirdness of WOtN is in its total sincerity in presenting absurd material, which isn't necessarily a demerit...

omar little, Monday, 9 September 2019 23:22 (two months ago) link

now u know how I feel about u, unp

Tommy Lee Jones is plying Pitt's father here... he is a mere 17 years younger than Brad

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 September 2019 23:28 (two months ago) link

Wow how does that work

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 01:10 (two months ago) link

lol

WmC, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 01:46 (two months ago) link

relativity.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 02:09 (two months ago) link

Love all this guy's movies and I'm really excited about this.

ryan, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 02:58 (two months ago) link

otm

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 03:14 (two months ago) link

i'm starting to really hate every fucking thread in this fucking middle-aged asylum

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 05:28 (two months ago) link

Saw it this afternoon and I was sadly unimpressed. Brad Pitt's ok and there's some decent space spectacle and a few dark laughs, but it's portentous in the extreme (thankfully dialogue is relatively scant, but I thought both it and Pitt's voiceover border on cringe- and/or laugh-worthy at times) and the whole thing is so utterly unsurprising/unadventurous, in terms of ideas, plot or the emotional side of things. I liked both Gravity and Sunshine, and thought this bears a lot of similarities to and/or took cues from both, without really doing anything different enough for me. Not terrible, but not great either.

Press reviews I've read have been incredibly positive though (Peter Bradshaw in the Guardian and the Skinny and List here in Scotland), so I was surprised and disappointed. Anyone else caught it yet?

brain (krakow), Friday, 20 September 2019 16:52 (two months ago) link

I watched it, loved it. Loved the way it just dives headfirst into banality.

Frederik B, Friday, 20 September 2019 16:56 (two months ago) link

TLJ has some beautiful line readings.

I enjoyed it more than the average metaphysical space film, but this is not my genre.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 September 2019 16:59 (two months ago) link

Ah, I wish I had loved it! I'm generally a fan of this kind of film and could have done with a couple of hours proper escape.

How do you mean you loved the dive into banality?

brain (krakow), Friday, 20 September 2019 17:06 (two months ago) link

yikes

Is it true the star Beetle Juice is going to explode in 2012 (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 20 September 2019 20:05 (two months ago) link

i would imagine Gray would not mesh perfectly with big-budget expectations

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 September 2019 20:17 (two months ago) link

I liked this a lot and look forward to seeing it again, but a lot like Z it felt relatively muted to me on first watch. Just like Z I found myself wanting it to go just a bit further *out there* (funny thing to think during a movie that ends literally at Neptune). The music was good but nothing quite as effective as the Ravel in Z.

Perhaps unfair to compare them since I feel so strongly about the prior film, but I think I actually enjoyed this more than Z after the first watch. I will see this again with my aging father (lol) who is a sci fi nut and hopefully untangle my feelings a bit more.

ryan, Friday, 20 September 2019 22:25 (two months ago) link

It’s always upsetting to me when movies like this—ambitiously flawed thoughtful and personal, lyrical, adult—are handled poorly and then bomb—which this will. Every great movie is a miracle but it feels like we could have movies like this pretty regularly.

Also: no idea why 2001 is being metioned with this...the real comparison is Soderbergh’s Solaris.

ryan, Friday, 20 September 2019 22:30 (two months ago) link

I enjoyed this, wasn't totally blown away by it. It's too facile to say "Terence Malick's Apocalypse Now," but I can't shake the phrase. The moon chase and space critters were weird side roads to take, and Natasha Lyonne's cameo was a lol.

There was a shitload of Movie Science in this picture.

WmC, Saturday, 21 September 2019 01:14 (one month ago) link

it sounds interesting, hearing about it makes me think of High Life, but I guess this has more action

Dan S, Saturday, 21 September 2019 01:23 (one month ago) link

Just saw. Really enjoyed this, need to think about it. Kinda wanna see it again.

Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 21 September 2019 01:35 (one month ago) link

It's interesting to reflect on the fact that the reserved emotional nature of these last two films is both text and subtext...both are about men with an inability to have intimacy, inhabiting movies that keep us at arm's length (Ad Astra *talks about* feelings, but only in the negative)...but what's particularly intriguing to me is that they see masculinity itself as a kind of woundedness, or a way to cope with being wounded, a survival strategy or search for security that's enormously empathetic and not really interested in scoring cheap shots against "toxic masculinity" so much as it is concerned about charting a way through masculinity towards something...more yielding.

ryan, Saturday, 21 September 2019 02:20 (one month ago) link

The story of how Natasha Lyonne ended up in this movie is so very... Natasha Lyonne: https://slate.com/culture/2019/09/natasha-lyonne-ad-astra-cameo-explained-james-gray.html

I love her.

Roz, Saturday, 21 September 2019 02:48 (one month ago) link

I don't for a minute think there was a space madness aspect. I've tried to create a narrative, but I'm going to go with disconnected thoughts here:

the entire mindset/personality that is needed or desired for space exploration is very emotionally flat, but the movie explores whether we can really have that. the pilot who falters, the characters who are sublimating their emotional needs for the mission, all are revealed. maybe there are people who can remain very calm and complete missions, but our experience is still relatively limited in that we've had months in general, at most around a year of occupation in space

also the element of fixation on a goal, finding extraterrestrial life, adhering to a mission, when it means ignoring base humanity or burying past failures to relate under a veil of purity and purpose

the baboon scene is a callback to space horror, but also a question because we never see what became of the human crew. rotting in the corridor around the corner, or jettisoned out into the vacuum. it's the baser animal metaphor, just anger at being trapped in this tube going nowhere

the father, having decided his crew is at fault for what he views as mutiny, never buries them after so many years. I understand the idea, like latebloomer says, that it's all for naught -- but that's the thing, it's not that life isn't out there, it's that he has removed the possibility of finding it. it's the inability to recognize that they looked into space to the best of their abilities and found great beauty but nothing indicating other intelligent life. likely all the tools at their disposal.. nothing else is going to come of it. maybe a greater expedition with better tools, but TLJ's character has inadvertently broken then best tools they have by removing his crew, and in his arrogance has possibly doomed earth by not letting go

mh, Thursday, 26 September 2019 03:36 (one month ago) link

there's also a possibly unintended indictment of the mindset that deems "logic" over emotion as a positive aspect

the death of the crew over neptune framed as their inability to stick to a mission could be seen as a question of command and mission, but it's completely illogical -- the mission ended, they did what they could with the tools, but that premise is rejected on what are really emotional grounds. but it's stated to us as a panic, a need to go home, which is in reality the obvious conclusion. good rejoinder for anyone who makes a "logical" argument without noticing that they're absolutely destroying their natural peers by their actions

mh, Thursday, 26 September 2019 03:40 (one month ago) link

It's a much better space movie for starters!

― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee)

As one of several ILXors who consider Claire Denis to be the absolute best there is.... I don't think it's much better. High Life is kind of a bad mess as well although it's a more singular mess.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Thursday, 26 September 2019 12:13 (one month ago) link

highly trained emotionally distant astronaut vs. a bunch of convicts with a fuck box

mh, Thursday, 26 September 2019 12:33 (one month ago) link

Highly trained emotionally distant astronaut character that never really comes across as such due to poor directorial choices, cliched flashback moments galore (example ottomh: sad wife stopping to look at him *one last time* before she walks out door) and exciting yet incongruous action sequences vs. arid and unique "space jail" story - that, yes, includes a wondrous fuck box - that's carried by intense performances and direction from a masterful filmmaker who is obviously not in her element, genre-wise, but revels in it. I'll go with the fuck box one!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 26 September 2019 14:27 (one month ago) link

I liked both

This really did feel like a Lost City of Z sequel in many ways

mh, Thursday, 26 September 2019 14:38 (one month ago) link

As much as I’ve criticized it, I don’t think this an incoherent film at all. It’s not difficult to follow and thematically I think it’s pretty much saying what Gray intended it to. It’s just that what he’s saying with this is mostly just kind of...bland humanist garbage?

I mostly meant incoherent in the sense of strands being introduced that had little to no follow through e.g. Donald Sutherland's character or Ruth Negga saying that she'll likely be punished for letting him board the shuttle (but McBride himself was spared any kind of blowback??). Or just things that took me out of the movie completely (that bit where he's floating through the rings of Neptune was major lols).

And while I understand what Gray was trying to do with the action sequences (i.e. Brad Pitt mirroring his father's journey by causing the deaths of everyone unlucky enough to be part of his futile quest), it was kind of clumsily done and made those sequences seem like parts of a totally different movie.

I need to watch High Life, I think.

Roz, Thursday, 26 September 2019 15:07 (one month ago) link

I quite liked liked the scene with Brad Pitt swiftly, accidentally dispatching of the crew taking off from Mars, as a bit of (accidental?) slapstick.

I'm inclined to agree with latebloomer, tho mb my view isn't quite as strong. What you say about the 'same social structures and conflicts that currently plague us' struck me too - maybe it's my issue rather than an issue with the film as such, but it felt like with some small narrative changes it could have abandoned the 'near future' space exploration theme entirely. It didn't seem to take advantage of anything that could be interesting about that specific setting.

lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 26 September 2019 17:19 (one month ago) link

This movie sucked because Brad Pitt wasn't nude in it.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 September 2019 17:51 (one month ago) link

they at least gave us some shirtless-and-pierced-with-a-feeding-tube action.

lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 26 September 2019 18:11 (one month ago) link

I kept being reminded of Apocalypse Now by Brad Pitt's quest and the Steven Soderbergh version of Solaris cos of the use of convenient location real stairs and basements and things.
Is Pitt a little old to be a major astronaut?

Wasn't overly impressed but it did look pretty good in places.

Rotten Tomatoes appears to have the critics really liking it and the viewing public not.

Stevolende, Thursday, 26 September 2019 20:26 (one month ago) link

And I too wondered whether I would've liked it more without Brad Pitt's mumbly voiceover. So many beautiful images utterly ruined by his constant droning.

^^ this. Thought this was OK but would have liked it a lot more without abt 95% of Pitts narration, just totally breaking the spell and redundantly telling us what we're being shown. Like on the moon when the space pirates are abt to attack and his v/o is like "here we are again, fighting amongst ourselves for resources, to what end" and its like yeah no shit dude, i get what space pirates are.

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Saturday, 28 September 2019 13:45 (one month ago) link

You guys react as if Pitt were doing an audiobook.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 September 2019 13:56 (one month ago) link

lol my viewing companion actually used that term exactly, i wouldnt go quite that far. gray was obviously working under the spell of apocalypse now, but particularly for a film that already has a device where the main character regularly delivers confessional monologues onscreen, the v/o just seemed like a step too far most of the time imo.

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Saturday, 28 September 2019 14:43 (one month ago) link

this was fine enough, not blown away by it, not really disappointed by it.

i liked the little psych evaluations that brad pitt got. i can totally see something that monitors your vital signs and sort of talks to you and makes a judgement as to your fitness to carry out your duties as an extension of current a.i.

the moon bandits bit was so hokey. they know it's dangerous, but nasa or whatever can't be bothered to have closed vehicles or monitor for moon buggies driving across blank terrain to shoot at their people? there was too much action and violence overall for what the movie was trying to be.

circles, Saturday, 28 September 2019 14:54 (one month ago) link

I haven't yet seen the film bcz i keep missing the discount matinees.

Innnteresting related screening in NYC:

http://movingimage.us/visit/calendar/2019/10/12/detail/to-the-stars-experimental-inspirations-for-ad-astra

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 16:19 (one month ago) link

dreadful film, bemused by the profundity some seem to be finding

devvvine, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 16:23 (one month ago) link

Tommy Lee Jones specializes in bemusement.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 16:28 (one month ago) link

i saw that The Ringer had a roundtable on it by "space movie" nerds I'm quite sure have never seen a Gray film before.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 16:42 (one month ago) link

I liked the beginning, where if Brad Pitt's mission succeeds then it means he'll need to reevaluate his past. then it all turns stupid around when the space pirates show up.

odd that gray watched so many experimental films and then didn't use any of it. he should have watched pandorum and lockout instead.

wasdnuos (abanana), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 17:22 (one month ago) link

otm, embrace the schlock

devvvine, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 17:24 (one month ago) link

i'll wait to rent this. it looked great but I've heard entirely too many people say it blows.

akm, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 17:47 (one month ago) link

always a reason to go

ppl are eejits

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 17:50 (one month ago) link

This was ... no Two Lovers.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 04:31 (one month ago) link

But, hey, probably the best movie with VFX in it I saw all year so far.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 04:32 (one month ago) link

Quite liked this... similar to the Oedipal westerns of the '50s in an attempt to engage mythology with a middle-aged sensibility, through genre. Not shocked that innumerable Jedi/replicants didn't get it.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 6 October 2019 20:20 (one month ago) link

Sound design was stunning in this, really felt like being in a space pod seeing it in a decent sized theater. Voiceover was overwrought and some clunky lines but w/e, awesome score and it looks magnificent and there's maybe half a dozen stunning shots. not as good as First Man or BR2049 but still very solid.

I like that Natassha Lyonne is the greeter on the moon (or Mars? idfk)

thought it was funny when they get to the moon and the inside is every airport/strip mall, complete with Sbux and Subway

flappy bird, Sunday, 6 October 2019 22:35 (one month ago) link

Santa Claus Conquers the Martians is better than BR2049

this is not a fuckin' space movie

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 6 October 2019 22:44 (one month ago) link

idc about space movies but la flor's most tedious hour was more engaging than this

devvvine, Sunday, 6 October 2019 22:48 (one month ago) link

ohhhhhhhh god no

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 6 October 2019 22:50 (one month ago) link

Brad Pitt did the VO beautifully.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 October 2019 23:08 (one month ago) link

"what am i doing here?" - both me and brad pitt during ad astra

devvvine, Sunday, 6 October 2019 23:11 (one month ago) link

yeah he was great, it was the script that was on the nose

I did like one of his final lines about galaxies and nebula being beautiful "with nothing underneath"

flappy bird, Sunday, 6 October 2019 23:13 (one month ago) link

also there's a pirate chase on the moon, this is a space movie

flappy bird, Sunday, 6 October 2019 23:14 (one month ago) link

I haven't read the reshoot story I posted a couple weeks ago (spoilers). What scenes did they add?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 6 October 2019 23:25 (one month ago) link

The story didn’t give specifics abt scenes, just that supposedly there were reshoots done against Grays wishes

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Monday, 7 October 2019 01:29 (one month ago) link

Santa Claus Conquers the Martians is better than BR2049

Otm

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 October 2019 01:46 (one month ago) link

I bet it was those stupid space wolves xp

flappy bird, Monday, 7 October 2019 03:54 (one month ago) link

If even that can't make it through the studio system without Disney demanding cuts and reshoots and voiceovers and extra ending scenes (and in one really dubious instance, removing a character's entire sexuality), what chance does anyone else have anymore?

— M.K. Rhodes (@mkrultra) September 21, 2019

devvvine, Monday, 7 October 2019 10:03 (one month ago) link

I'd have lost at least a third of the voiceover... but it was ALL the studio's idea?

(I was confused by "Disney" until I remembered the Fox merger)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 October 2019 11:04 (one month ago) link

flappy, they wuz baboons

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 October 2019 11:13 (one month ago) link

The scenes between pitt and the commander of the mars base give me a reshoot vibe, I wouldn't be surprised if those had been at tinkered with in some way. Her character seemed oddly truncated, and the way she moved the plot along seemed v perfunctory to me (I didnt totally buy that the government decided to tell the best-kept secret in the galaxy to her but not pitt, and she has the video evidence of it on her ipad ready to call up at a moments notice. unless I missed something, my memory's not clear on why exactly she had that video.)

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Monday, 7 October 2019 14:05 (one month ago) link

gray said the space baboons were in his orig script iirc

johnny crunch, Monday, 7 October 2019 14:07 (one month ago) link

yes, M K Rhodes' further tweets say that Negga's part was truncated.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 October 2019 14:11 (one month ago) link

obv the previous Pitt film this is most relevantly paired with is The Tree of Life

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 01:19 (one month ago) link

hadn't considered evaluating it along the Pitt axis. insightful!

mh, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 01:30 (one month ago) link

Yeah

gray said the space baboons were in his orig script iirc

― johnny crunch, Monday, October 7, 2019 2:07 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

That is a wonderful sentence.

Conceptualize Wyverns (latebloomer), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 01:32 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

Thought this was pretty good--my first Gray film, will catch up with the others at some point. I thought I was clever to pick up on the Apocalypse Now affinities...but I guess every person who's ever reviewed or commented upon the film got there first. I missed that that was Liv Tyler until the credits. One unintentional laugh: when Pitt sneaks onto the spacecraft headed for Neptune, and when he fought the guy in a slow-motion space-grapple, the film seemed to follow the rule that if it's now an action film for a minute or two, somebody has to say "son of a bitch."

clemenza, Sunday, 3 November 2019 04:38 (two weeks ago) link

"Ad Astra" is one of my favourite Deerhunter songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuSgpL3J1bw

clemenza, Sunday, 3 November 2019 13:52 (two weeks ago) link

this movie was pretty to look at but i couldn't get past the hokey plotting and cliched character conflicts

davey, Monday, 4 November 2019 09:09 (two weeks ago) link


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