the jeffrey epstein memorial poll and conspiracy-mongering thread

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the bill gates thing:

In 2013, Epstein met a Russian woman Gates was having a consensual affair with and later paid for her to attend software-coding school, according to people familiar with the matter.

After Epstein had failed to persuade Gates to participate in a multibillion-dollar charitable fund that Epstein tried to establish with JPMorgan, Epstein asked Gates to reimburse him for the cost of the woman’s course, according to the people familiar with the matter.

The implication behind the message, according to people who have viewed it, was that Epstein could reveal the affair if Gates didn’t keep up an association between the two men. The spokeswoman for Gates said he didn’t make a payment.

scott seward, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 19:17 (four months ago) link

this is some sort of netflix movie:

Terje Rød-Larsen
Epstein made plans for the Norwegian diplomat to visit his private island in 2012. Rød-Larsen was scheduled to visit so frequently to Epstein’s townhouse—dozens of times from 2013 to 2017—that the staff knew to have cucumbers on hand for his gin, the documents show.

In 2013, Rød-Larsen wrote an email inviting a Polish model to Norway, which she used to obtain a visa to travel with Epstein to Norway. The model said she also accompanied an IPI team to Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan in 2014.

In October 2014, he was on the guest list when Epstein planned for Woody Allen to give lessons on film editing at Epstein’s townhouse to a group watching Alfred Hitchcock’s “Psycho,” the documents show.

Rød-Larsen said in a written statement that he met Epstein because of his philanthropic connections. “At no point did I suspect, let alone know, that Mr. Epstein was involved in criminal conduct, including the abhorrent crime of sex trafficking,” he said.

Rød-Larsen resigned in 2020 as president of the International Peace Institute after a Norwegian newspaper reported he visited the townhouse frequently, had received a $130,000 personal loan from Epstein, and had accepted about $650,000 in donations from Epstein foundations for the nonprofit.

The IPI, which said it was unaware of the Epstein donations and the loan, said that it has new leadership and that it finds the revelations in the Journal’s reporting to be “utterly shocking and shameful.”

scott seward, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 19:20 (four months ago) link

and just so the old school conspiracy buffs don't go home empty-handed:

Ariane de Rothschild


A member of the famous banking family had more than a dozen meetings with Epstein. He sought her advice with staffing and furnishings as well as discussed business deals with her, according to the documents.

De Rothschild, CEO of the Swiss private bank Edmond de Rothschild Group, negotiated a $25 million contract with Epstein in 2015 for one of Epstein’s companies to provide risk analysis and other services to the bank, the documents show.

In 2019, after Epstein was arrested, the bank denied that de Rothschild met with Epstein and said it had no business links with him.

The bank acknowledged to the Journal that its earlier statement wasn’t accurate. It said de Rothschild met with Epstein as part of her normal duties at the bank between 2013 and 2019, and Epstein introduced the bank to U.S. finance leaders, recommended law firms and provided tax and risk consulting.

scott seward, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 19:27 (four months ago) link

ah nice

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 19:28 (four months ago) link

the number one piece of financial advice you can give is "figure out how to not pay taxes"

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 19:34 (four months ago) link

because your wealth is way more important than the society you live in. you can always buy into a gated community. social breakdown problem solved!

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 19:44 (four months ago) link

I’m unaware of the principle that requires that I inform you about an evening spent with a great artist.

https://www.supportkevinspacey.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/ksold2.jpg

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 23:07 (four months ago) link

i'm surprised there hasn't been a film or docudrama on epstein yet.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 01:14 (four months ago) link

I forgot Xeni Jardin somehow cropped up upthread

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 01:30 (four months ago) link

From the Where are they now? file.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 01:41 (four months ago) link

i'm surprised there hasn't been a film or docudrama on epstein yet.

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm)

There is an Epstein doc (and a Ghislaine Maxwell doc) on Netflix.

nickn, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 01:46 (four months ago) link

xxp someone we probably shouldn’t investigate further imo

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 02:24 (four months ago) link

yeah the doc is good but I was thinking docudrama or film. Have to assume one is coming at some point but maybe not for a while.

I forgot Xeni Jardin somehow cropped up upthread

ugh I forgot she existed

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 02:28 (four months ago) link

I watched both the Netflix docs (there may be 3?) and they were mostly centering the survivors, which was good. The one that stuck w me was the one where Virginia Giuffre was interviewed extensively.

I didn’t learn much about his business practices or his associates tho — which is good, he can rot — but I’m still waiting for a reckoning for his associates.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 02:34 (four months ago) link

Friend told me CNN reported that names might begin leaking as early as this afternoon??!!

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 20:11 (four months ago) link

lets have the names shall we

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 20:12 (four months ago) link

Ready to see which of my faves went to sicko island

omar little, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 20:18 (four months ago) link

who wants popcorn

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 20:33 (four months ago) link

From what I've read, these are mostly already known names, aren't they? Is anyone expecting any surprises?

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 21:03 (four months ago) link

there are 200 names that haven't been released -- how could there not be surprises?

i am still in "apology analysis" phase. This person offers a particularly weak example:

“If I had known who (Epstein) really was, there is absolutely no doubt that I wouldn’t be in the position I am in today,” Staley said in a statement shared with CNN at the time.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 21:13 (four months ago) link

I think boygenius is going to top the list.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 21:14 (four months ago) link

They should announce it like the NFL draft.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 21:19 (four months ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 21:27 (four months ago) link

They should do a montage on the next Academy Awards show with the Hollywood people, like the In Memoriam segment.

nickn, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 21:30 (four months ago) link

anti vaxxers trying to get in on the action

Dear Aasshole: for the record, I’ve not met, flown with, visited, or had any contact whatsoever with Epstein, nor will you find my name on any “list” other than the clearly-phony nonsense that soft-brained wackos like yourself can’t seem to distinguish from reality. Your reckless… https://t.co/p8eug12uiS

— Jimmy Kimmel (@jimmykimmel) January 2, 2024

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 21:32 (four months ago) link

This from the Guardian is what I've also seen elsewhere about the names: Many on the list will already be publicly known as associates, employees of Epstein and Maxwell, or people who had flown on his planes.

So I don't think this is quite the bonanza some people are hoping for. But I guess we'll see!

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 21:33 (four months ago) link

2-3 big names is enough for a media/twitter frenzy

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 23:15 (four months ago) link

Fred Rogers
Mark E Smith
Mr. Blobby

Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 23:19 (four months ago) link

Meryl Streep
William Howard Taft
Jake Gyllenhaal

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 23:30 (four months ago) link

someone should arrange the names in haiku form

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 23:32 (four months ago) link

dayrl hall
john oates
chelsea clinton

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 23:32 (four months ago) link

What else have I got to say
We didn't etc.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 23:54 (four months ago) link

Leonid Brezhnev
Lenny Bruce
Lester Bangs

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 4 January 2024 00:00 (four months ago) link

L Ron Hubbard, for sure... he likes yachts and the underaged

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 January 2024 00:04 (four months ago) link

Danny Bonaduce
Red Buttons
Marcia Wallace

oh wait no that’s an old “this week on the Love Boat” list

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 4 January 2024 00:35 (four months ago) link

Bill Brewer
Jan Stewer
Peter Gurney
Peter Davy
Dan'l Whiddon
Harry Hawke
Old Uncle Tom Cobley and all

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 4 January 2024 00:38 (four months ago) link

Fred Biletnikoff, Brandon Tartikoff, Sid and Marty Krofft!
Fred Gwynne and Anthony Quinn and Rin Tin Tin and Pearl Bailey
And Moms Mabley and Mayor Daley and Hank and Phoebe Snow!
Ethel Merman and Pee Wee Herman and Strom Thurmond and Vince Lombardi and George and Jesus Jones.
Edith Head and Mister Ed and Nostradamus and Danny Thomas and Leona and Sherman Hemsley!

Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 4 January 2024 01:27 (four months ago) link

Fall Out Boy itt furiously taking down notes

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 4 January 2024 01:30 (four months ago) link

If anyone is interested, the full doc is available here:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/03/jeffrey-epstein-documents-list-pdf

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 January 2024 01:39 (four months ago) link

they should make a musical about jeffrey epstein.

treeship., Thursday, 4 January 2024 02:08 (four months ago) link

No — tbh i don’t find him funny whatsoever.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 4 January 2024 02:17 (four months ago) link

there’s nothing much in there that wasn’t already released, afaict

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 4 January 2024 02:24 (four months ago) link

not to be all i aint reading all that but THE LIST just gimme THE LIST

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 4 January 2024 02:28 (four months ago) link

it’s the same list as before but they removed the redactions on a former president and a member of the uk royal family

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 4 January 2024 02:40 (four months ago) link

Are there any unexpected names?

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 4 January 2024 02:40 (four months ago) link

this is only part of the documents so more to come

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 4 January 2024 02:42 (four months ago) link

Even without a lot of bombshells, just going over all of this stuff in more detail is good because it's all so gross and terrible and they deserve to be shamed.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 4 January 2024 03:00 (four months ago) link

hate to say it but maybe you do gotta hand it to him sometimes

Elon Musk free Ben Garrison's account pic.twitter.com/UmZsiPV0Zi

— Aleph (@woke8yearold) January 3, 2024

frogbs, Thursday, 4 January 2024 03:56 (four months ago) link

wasting no time with the new public domain characters

jaymc, Thursday, 4 January 2024 04:17 (four months ago) link

David Copperfield and Michael Jackson were new-ish ones.

underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Thursday, 4 January 2024 06:20 (four months ago) link


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