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The Saturday Morning Memorial Animated Series Poll: nominations

We're polling the best/most-loved/most-votes-receiving animated series of all time/from times that we personally remember!

How to vote

Email your ballot, consisting of at least 10 and at most 25 series titles, to cartoons at jklol.net. Include your ilx username for auditing purposes. Do not add rankings to your list of titles, just put number 1 at the top and number 25 at the bottom. Please use the title as collated in the official list of nominations whenever possible, as this will help me disambiguate similarly-named series. If you want to vote for something not nominated, please provide at least enough information to, for example, identify the specific wikipedia page for the series run you're voting for.

Theme song side ballot

Separately from the main ballot, you may optionally submit your top animated series theme songs. If you do, please vote for at least 5 and, why not, up to 25. Some good/mind-destroying tunes in this bunch.

Nominated Series

Please review the official nomination list, also copied in the nomination thread for redundancy. Voting for a non-nominated series risks your vote being discarded without notification if there's ambiguity about qualification or identification but is otherwise OK with me.

Deadline

Whenever I feel like it, but no earlier than August 25th, 2019, which gives you three whole weekends to binge on garbage from the 80s, you reprobate Gen Xers.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 17:02 (one week ago) link

I'm prob going to use the voting weeks to finally watch a bit of NGE, Cowboy Bebop, Bojack Horseman and Steven Universe. Not sure if I'll vote for anything I didn't already love but those ones have been on my "to check out" list for a long time.

emil.y, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 20:28 (one week ago) link

yeah hmm maybe i should finally watch eva for this

ciderpress, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 20:30 (one week ago) link

That screenshot is so good.

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 20:34 (one week ago) link

it's good. animation is good.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 20:35 (one week ago) link

aside from everything Oliver Postgate has ever made, I urge you to all check out A Town Called Panic/Panique Au Village if you haven't, it is sensational

imago, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 20:49 (one week ago) link

I have seen and adored the movie! It appeared on American Netflix a few years back. I think I checked out the series a bit at the time but didn't plow through them all.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 21:11 (one week ago) link

i recall you saying so! the movie is a pinnacle yes but the series well worth finding as well :)

imago, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 21:49 (one week ago) link

If the DCAU were lumped together as one nomination, I'm fairly confident that it would take the top spot (top three at least). As is, it'll be interesting to see where the constituent shows land.

Liberals are insane in the mimbrain!!! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 21:55 (one week ago) link

I imagine B:TAS, Batman Beyond, and Justice League, at minimum, can each do well enough on their own

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 21:58 (one week ago) link

Given how the chips have fallen (BOOHISS), I'd say BTAS and JLU (as distinct from JL) are the locks, but Beyond? My impression was that it wasn't exactly the hotness.

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 23:11 (one week ago) link

I always thought Batman Beyond was kinda lame. Best were BTAS, STAS and both JL series

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 23:14 (one week ago) link

I didn't see the nomination thread. One current show that airs in weird spurts is Summer Camp Island. Some episodes are comparable to Over The Garden Wall. Good stuff.

ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 23:21 (one week ago) link

I started working through the DCAU series I hadn't seen a little while back. What I've seen of Beyond hasn't blown me away. Static Shock, otoh, turned out to be a surprisingly-decent b-tier show.

Liberals are insane in the mimbrain!!! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 23:27 (one week ago) link

(Which I'm sure is largely aided by the creators of the character being writers and producers on the show.)

Liberals are insane in the mimbrain!!! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 23:33 (one week ago) link

This will be hard, I'm going to give this an even spread of "ubiquitous to my childhood actual Sat morning cartoon" type stuff (mostly 60s-80s toons) and important/newer shows.

I mean I'd never watch Roger Ramjet now, but it has to get a vote because it was an absolute staple of dinnertime in the early 80s in my house.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 00:28 (one week ago) link

a few deep into Steven Universe and Gravity Falls. not really feeling them very much – but the character Amethyst from SU looks, sounds and acts so much like my old hair stylist it cannot be a coincidence. (tho after a shit load of googling i can find zero connection).

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 02:47 (one week ago) link

Hey, a poll where I'm a viking*! I plan to vote in both shows and theme songs, gotta find some time to throw a ballot together

* not a literal viking, that wouldn't make sense

Vinnie, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 04:08 (one week ago) link

I watched a couple more episodes of Over the Garden Wall and found it much more charming than the first episode!

Also wtf is this and should I seek it out (seeing that it made the nominations):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udeH8ghanXg

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 04:27 (one week ago) link

My stepson's been (re re re) watching Gravity Falls over the last few weeks, thre show is great but dear god I am sick of the theme tune now.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 06:06 (one week ago) link

LOL and that now reminds me, theres no Voltron in the overall list. hahaha.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 06:07 (one week ago) link

No one posted Hong Kong Phooey? I didn't nom as I assumed it would have been nominated.

― Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 18:59 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Or Undercover Elephant! Or The Hunter!

The Pingularity (ledge), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 07:35 (one week ago) link

Completely forgot about Voltron. I enjoyed the first few seasons of the Netflix series but then dropped off, for some reason.

I considered nominating Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog for a bit there, but thought better of it.

Duane Barry, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 09:36 (one week ago) link

What I've seen of Beyond hasn't blown me away.

it's spider-man-as-batman with kevin conroy and bruce timm going full kirby! what's not to like?

Criss Angel Raw: The Mindfreak Unplugged (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 10:42 (one week ago) link

(admittedly i haven't seen a frame of it in like 15 years but still)

Criss Angel Raw: The Mindfreak Unplugged (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 10:42 (one week ago) link

I don't dislike what I've seen (which honestly isn't that much), it just hasn't grabbed me the way almost all of the other DCAU stuff does. Imma get back around to continuing with it eventually. Maybe this poll is the motivation I need.

Liberals are insane in the mimbrain!!! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 12:19 (one week ago) link

i'm warming up to Gravity Falls nut Gonna give up on Steven Universe. the Bowie rip off theme song also really gets under my skin.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 13:58 (one week ago) link

It always reminded me too much of Sufjan Stevens.

☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 14:02 (one week ago) link

Re: theme songs, if you don't vote for the Raccoons theme tune you're dead inside.

emil.y, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 14:07 (one week ago) link

steven universe is worth sticking w/ imo.

also if you're checking out SU + GF, check out AT too, and then bravest warriors + bea + puppycat which are from ppl who worked on these other projects but are shorter weirder online shows.

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 14:08 (one week ago) link

if AT = Adventure Time, no worries – i'm already a big fan. i can see the influence on SU for sure.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 14:12 (one week ago) link

There's a lot of Hanna-Barbera stuff I vaguely expected to see nominated and didn't: the original Yogi Bear Show, Top Cat, Hong Kong Phooey, Jetsons, Snagglepuss...

Not sure I'd have voted for any of it, maybe Yogi and TC at the bottom of my ballot, so NBD for me, just surprised.

Re: theme songs, if you don't vote for the Raccoons theme tune you're dead inside.

OTM! I tried to answer the "what songs have an epic 80s mysterious night-time vibe like this?"* q on the "Self Control" thread but my brain got stuck on the Raccoons theme tune and thought it might be, you know, a bit of a category error to reply to a question about actual pop hits with a cheesy kids' show theme tune (which is great) (at least it's great if you're 8 years old or drunk, anyway)

* probably not the actual phrasing of the question what it got rewritten as in my head

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 14:25 (one week ago) link

Hanna-Barbera is mostly garbage imo. I don't know how they were so successful at creating a slew of iconic characters that everyone knows because they sure didn't do much to make them memorable.

Liberals are insane in the mimbrain!!! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 14:35 (one week ago) link

I agree that Raccoons has the best theme tune, however I have found that plenty of people don't know it has a mostly-non-Rraccoons music video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usFFKNRB2z8

I have watched this more times than I'd like to admit.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 14:47 (one week ago) link

Want to reiterate that as usual it’s ok to vote for things that aren’t nominated, I just reserve the right to bounce them if I’m confused.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 14:49 (one week ago) link

nom list is missing The Yoga Bear Show

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 14:59 (one week ago) link

i got my shortlist down to 56 items now i just need to figure out how to halve that and how to weigh stuff that was beloved to me as a child vs stuff i enjoyed mostly as an adult

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:00 (one week ago) link

Hanna-Barbera is mostly garbage imo. I don't know how they were so successful at creating a slew of iconic characters that everyone knows because they sure didn't do much to make them memorable.

― Liberals are insane in the mimbrain!!! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, August 7, 2019 9:35 AM

Alex Toth, Iwao Takamoto, Doug Wildey, Daws Butler and Don Messick, Ruby & Spears, Michael Maltese, just for starters. "Didn't do much to make them memorable" way off the money.

Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:02 (one week ago) link

god there's so much to get through here lol

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:07 (one week ago) link

how to weigh stuff that was beloved to me as a child vs stuff i enjoyed mostly as an adult

for instance i'm sure Doug would not hold up in 2019 as one of my favorite animated shows of all time and yet this poster is currently hanging over my desk:

https://i.imgur.com/nFljJhW.jpg

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:11 (one week ago) link

I'm reading about some of the H-B cartoons during the kitchen sink/dumpster era of the 70s and it's kind of impressive how brazen they were in ripping off their own properties

untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:12 (one week ago) link

I mean, they wanted to do a Jetsons spin-off, CBS wanted something with the Partridge Family instead, so they made... Partridge Family 2200 A.D.? Sure, why not!

untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:13 (one week ago) link

25 titles eh?
one more write-in vote idea: OK K.O.! Let's Be Heroes

ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:17 (one week ago) link

i would not complain about longer ballots

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:18 (one week ago) link

c'mon u only get to vote in a best animated series of all time list once in yr life

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:18 (one week ago) link

another write in idea for yall: Amazing World of Gumball, The

ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:20 (one week ago) link

anime division:

1. yes, everyone should watch eva

2. i will be placing sailor moon very high on my ballot even though it is the most uneven work of art i love, long stretches of it even suck because, like dragon ball, it was so hideously popular that they stretched out the plot arcs to near-indefinite lengths. the third season (sailor moon s) is, however, pretty amazing and consistent regardless, and i'd recommend anyone who wants to know why sailor moon is any good at all check out an episode or two from it, even though it'll probably make zero sense, it's a deceptively complicated show with overlapping timelines and time travel and ancient and future utopian kingdoms on the moon etc. the show is occasionally plagued by regressive attitudes about gender roles but by s it's fully about how everyone is a lesbian

3. if you would like to get into an anime for the purposes of this poll that isn't 250 episodes long, i recommend the 12-episode haibane renmei, which in its goodheartedness and its devotion to the intricacies of its world is as close as we'll ever get to a studio ghibli animated series (barring nadia: the secret of blue water which given its miyazaki origins is the ghibli animated series but it's 30-something episodes long and a subset of those episodes actively suck, which is why i've never finished it)

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:20 (one week ago) link

adult swim division:

1. home movies: i hope everyone is aware of how devastatingly good this show was. metalocalypse and bob's burgers are fine and often funny, and dr. katz is amazing, but this is bouchard and small's peak, which is weird because from the jump it's so haphazardly- and improvisationally-made and has a weirdly personal aspect, but by the time the third season starts, it just feels like it's made with so much... love? every character has this wonderful individual presence and pretty much all the jokes are character-derived and it's such a rich and warm experience

2. space ghost: still my favorite williams street show, even though it's the first (?) and the longest, even the very earliest episodes have this sense of surreality and ridiculousness and total freedom that could only come from repurposing a bad hanna barbera cartoon into a talk show format. the thom yorke/björk episode ("knifin' around"), which iirc aired shortly after the show entered the adult swim lineup instead of being a free-floating 11pm/midnight-ish show that i regularly confused with cartoon planet (same characters, no interviews, lot of good brak songs), still gets me rolling on the floor clutching my sides. aqua teen (which was a space ghost spinoff!!!) in many ways pushed this style further but i don't have nearly as much affection for it

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:35 (one week ago) link

oh god i should've nominated aggretsuko

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:36 (one week ago) link

og Space Ghost (as opposed to Space Ghost: Coast to Coast) deserves some love

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:36 (one week ago) link

Are end title themes allowed? Especially since some series have no opening theme or perfunctory 5 second opening sequences.

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Monday, 12 August 2019 20:43 (six days ago) link

Like it'd be a shame for FLCL not to qualify.

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Monday, 12 August 2019 20:45 (six days ago) link

omfg what is this Chapi Chapo stuff, and what is the comedown like :D

imago, Monday, 12 August 2019 20:52 (six days ago) link

amazing

imago, Monday, 12 August 2019 20:53 (six days ago) link

Are there a lot of women w lead roles in the creation of anime? Serious question.

Xp

― Οὖτις, Monday, August 12, 2019 1:41 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I don't know I just felt like fping you for the generalization which is faintly smacks of japan is fucked up!

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 12 August 2019 20:55 (six days ago) link

Are end title themes allowed? Especially since some series have no opening theme or perfunctory 5 second opening sequences.

― Coelacanth Green (Leee), Monday, August 12, 2019 1:43 PM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah why not

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 12 August 2019 20:58 (six days ago) link

Five episodes into A Place Further Than the Universe - it's lovely so far! Looking forward to the trip developing.

Never heard of Chapi Chapo until half an hour ago, but it has a disarming style of stop motion movement (lots of jump cuts) and is characterised by almost incessant laughter and the best theme tune ever. Also rendered in a lovely cubist setting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R6EB69M2jA

tangenttangent, Monday, 12 August 2019 21:16 (six days ago) link

xp lots of women writers and artists, not a ton of directors but more than there used to be in the 90s/00s. the aforementioned A Place Further than the Universe was directed by a woman, as were K-On and Monthly Girls Nozaki-kun from our nominations list, dunno if there are any others on there.

ciderpress, Monday, 12 August 2019 21:18 (six days ago) link

Chapi Chapo theme is immortal; also by noted film composer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/François_de_Roubaix

Chapi Chapo is a freakin' delight, is what it is.

I also posted this in the nominations thread, but you really can't go wrong sifting through the animated shorts they ran on Pinwheel: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinwheel_(TV_series)

Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Monday, 12 August 2019 22:03 (six days ago) link

Even some American shows have multiple theme songs. I specified the original theme song for Garfield on my ballot because the other one is eh, whereas for Rocko's Modern Life, both theme songs are good (and similar) and I didn't feel like specifying. Might be easiest to just lump all theme songs together under the one show

Vinnie, Monday, 12 August 2019 23:56 (six days ago) link

Theme songs with the same words and melody but a new arrangement (eg Steven Universe) are the same for our purposes.

I love rules.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 00:08 (five days ago) link

idk if this should go here since i missed the nominations thread, but here are some 00s/10s anime that i haven't seen mentioned that are pretty great:

uchouten kazoku (eccentric family): this is my pick for anime of a magical bent. it's a super fun show - creatures from japanese folklore coexist with humans in modern-day kyoto, focuses on a family of tanuki dealing with guilt and grief in a really delightfully drawn world operating by its own strange logic. if you've seen tatami galaxy or the night is short, walk on girl, this is by the same writer and it feels of a piece, maybe set in the same universe.

silver spoon: fullmetal alchemist writer does a coming-of-age story set in an agricultural high school. its a very chill slice-of-life that also touches lightly on the economic realities of japanese farmers. kinda feels like it could be some govt-sponsored propaganda to encourage urban youth to repopulate the countryside but in a good way lol

kids on the slope: cowboy bebop/samurai champloo director made an anime set in the 60s about jazz and friendship!

from the new world: dystopian sci-fi set in the future where a small percentage of the population has developed psychic abilities in 2013, totally restructuring human society. an underclass of "monster rats" serves humans, kids discover a secret and face the consequences as adults.

dennou coil: spooky digimon. kids in the near future live in a world where AR tech is used in everyday life. they hang out, mess around at the margins of the code, confront death, and risk losing their souls. honestly better than it sounds, came out in 2007 so it predates black mirror. it has a really interesting tone that i've never really seen done anywhere else before. starts off like a children's show but then starts drifting towards horror. mitsuo iso, who did key animation for neon genesis evangelion and early ghibli, directed this.

princess jellyfish: unemployed neurotic obsessive nerdy women try to grow up and save their boarding house from redevelopment with the help of a stylish, crossdressing manic pixie dream boy (coded cis-male imo, but it's been a while so i may be wrong)

paradise kiss: high-achieving girl feels aimless until she starts hanging out with fashion design kids and starts figuring out what she wants from life. nice soundtrack that happens to include lol franz ferdinand but it works. at a key moment in the show, this shoegazey song starts playing and it's perfect. a couple of decently portrayed overtly queer characters too iirc, esp for its time

march comes in like a lion: teen shogi (japanese chess) prodigy deals with depression, learns how to make friends/maintain relationships with other humans, and eats a lot of delicious food

yona of the dawn: what if there was a shounen (boys' action/adventure) anime but with a female lead?? swords, magic, and dragons

the lost village: horror comedy about trauma that features a giant deranged penguin. all of the characters go by their online handle irl and are terrible. thought this was some stupid, messy fun, but ymmv

kino's journey (2003): a mysterious girl and her talking motorcycle wander a world inspired by calvino's invisible cities. there's a remake too but idk anything about it

natsume yuujinchou: gentle boy who sees spirits tries to help them and slowly opens his heart, mushishi vibes

humanity has declined: post-apocalyptic dark comedy where a girl tries to mediate between humans and fairies

hyouge mono: set in the era of the warring states, this one's a comedy about a man obsessed with tea ceremony/wabi-sabi/art

shouwa genroku rakugo shinjuu: traditional comedic storytellers (rakugoka) try to make it in the 1930s through the 1990s

gankutsuou: sci-fi take on the count of monte cristo + mecha. visually arresting

most of these are like 12-24 eps long.

klu, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 22:44 (five days ago) link

After doing some digging, I'm going to give nu-She-Ra another go; I watched the first season and didn't care too much to go on, but apparently it gets much better by S2?

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 23:32 (five days ago) link

I’ve only caught eps here and there when my kids are watching it but it seems v high quality and interesting the stuff I’ve seen

Mordy, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 23:38 (five days ago) link

xp great list thanks, i haven't seen any of those & only a few were on my radar already

ciderpress, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 00:39 (four days ago) link

also Barakamon is one more of my anime favs that i missed in my last post - hotshot calligraphy artist gets sent off to live in a small island village after a public meltdown, has to learn how to get along with people in a close-knit community while finding new inspiration for his art. really nice little slice-of-life character piece.

ciderpress, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 01:08 (four days ago) link

Would we be better off with a 'recommend me some anime' thread? I don't think any of it's going to bother the poll much with a few exceptions (Eva, Cowboy Bebop, possibly Gatchaman if people feel more bound to the 'saturday morning cartoons'?)

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 07:15 (four days ago) link

After doing some digging, I'm going to give nu-She-Ra another go; I watched the first season and didn't care too much to go on, but apparently it gets much better by S2?
I just finished watching season 3 (which is really just season 2, part 2, because Netflix split the second 13-episode batch into 2 "seasons", even narratively it's one whole), and yeah, it does get better. I especially like how the writers take care making the villains (Catra, Hordak, Shadow Weaver) into nuanced characters with credible motivation for what they're doing. Reminds me of Legend of Korra in that respect.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 08:06 (four days ago) link

Also, besides Steven Universe it's by far the queerest American kids' cartoon I've ever seen. There's a few lesbian romances going on that are incredibly obvious if not spelled out as such, and Bow is also explicitly to have two dads who are in a loving long-term relationship.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 08:11 (four days ago) link

"Bow is also explicitly shown to have two dads"

Tuomas, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 08:12 (four days ago) link

steven universe is worth sticking w/ imo.

I most definitely is, I would argue SU is the best TV series of this decade, cartoon or live-actiom. But the first season starts really slow, and the first half of it is mostly just establishing the protagonists and the setting (though there are some hints dropped that will pay out later). The big story arc that defines the rest of the series doesn't kick in until the "Mirror Gem"/"Ocean Gem" two-parter, and the magnitude of the story is only properly revealed in the season 1 finale, which is amazing. So if you're undecided, I'd recommend trying to continue until the end of the first season. If the finale doesn't work for you, the rest of the series won't either, but if it does work, you're probably hooked alredy.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 08:33 (four days ago) link

feel like i should rewatch some of my old adult swim faves for this like Sealab and Harvey Birdman but also don't want to find out that they're not funny anymore

ciderpress, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 12:31 (four days ago) link

i wanted to like steven universe and it's certainly something i would have liked to have had as a child, but it can be too corny at times for me and the overall morals of it are a mess - "it's possible to talk to and work things out with your enemies" is admirable enough for a kids show but when it extends that to even the main villains who lead a genocidal alien empire it doesn't really land at all

ufo, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 12:40 (four days ago) link

Harvey Birdman and Sealab are both still pretty funny, Sealab maybe less pleasant overall, and it falls off pretty hard.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 14:32 (four days ago) link

luckily i am certain that space ghost coast to coast still holds up

ciderpress, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 14:41 (four days ago) link

i would love to watch avatar before i file my ballot but i'm pretty sure i won't have time

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 14:49 (four days ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSxECJNYPuA

Mordy, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 14:52 (four days ago) link

I really appreciate all the anime recommends. I have a rare amount of time on my hands this month and will gladly devour what I can before nominating. I’m sure at least a couple of new-to-me shows will sneak onto my ballot.

Still enjoying A Place Further Than the Universe. I loved the episode that was just the battling neuroses of two characters (the stubborn one and the one who doesn’t like other people being considerate towards her). I’ve also never seen an anime that felt so naturalistically contemporary.

tangenttangent, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 16:32 (four days ago) link

I'm not an anime head but in the course of researching nominations I somehow stumbled upon this weird show (The World of Golden Eggs) which made me laugh for the few minutes that I watched it and which it looks like no one has ever discussed in the searchable history of ILX:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx6ZdoWB-6s

Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 16:42 (four days ago) link

Harvey Birdman was excellent, I really should give it a rewatch. I have the DVD box set somewhere.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 15 August 2019 01:43 (three days ago) link

i can't stop screaming about how brilliant the big o is. i just got into the second season and it echoes evangelion even more than i remembered? in its own very noir way of course, but still folding into complex inward universes just all of the sudden, like it's no big deal

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 August 2019 01:53 (three days ago) link

Oh - i have the Birman dvs somewhere too!

I had to bail on Steven Universe. Gravity Falls got more enjoyable as it went along, but SU was the opposite for me.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:52 (three days ago) link

I'm watching through S1 of Gravity Falls. Initial episodes made it seem like it'd be a slightly "fractured" (per bullwinkle show) Family Values sitcom. It's better than that.

adam the (abanana), Thursday, 15 August 2019 22:40 (three days ago) link

its interesting how a lot of current shows have that same artwork those 2 shows do, with the very curvey heads/big mouths thing going on.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 16 August 2019 05:28 (two days ago) link

...or I dunno maybe it is just those 2, haha.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 16 August 2019 05:28 (two days ago) link

Is Neon Genesis Evangelion worth watching? I know there's not really time now. I watched an episode once and wasn't sure...I'm not big into sci-fi/fantasy, unless it has a strong emotional core that transcends the genre constraints.

tangenttangent, Friday, 16 August 2019 19:34 (two days ago) link

yes, it has a very strong emotional core that transcends the genre constraints

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 16 August 2019 19:37 (two days ago) link

i consider it one of the major works of art of the past thirty years but ymmv

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 16 August 2019 19:38 (two days ago) link

I never even finished it but yes, watch it

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 16 August 2019 19:42 (two days ago) link

Be prepared for a lot of screaming.

I'm a few episodes into She-Ra season 2, and my socks are still on my feet. However, I'm pretty sure that Catra is secretly the show's main character.

I watched a couple eps of Gravity Falls, and it's pretty funny, though I'm yet to be hooked.

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Friday, 16 August 2019 20:04 (two days ago) link

Eva is classic and is, a little bit, set up to lure in casual mecha fans by appearing to merely be a mecha show with some edgy trimming and mysteries etc. It doesn't necessarily stop being that, but yeah the emotional/psychological stuff develops.

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Friday, 16 August 2019 20:06 (two days ago) link

Thanks! I’m good with screaming. I will get around to it then. Though alas, not in time for voting. Finding so much that is highly promising from this list!

tangenttangent, Friday, 16 August 2019 21:52 (two days ago) link

omg each episode of Pat and Mat is a perfect demonstration of entropy; I adore it so, so much

imago, Friday, 16 August 2019 21:53 (two days ago) link

its interesting how a lot of current shows have that same artwork those 2 shows do, with the very curvey heads/big mouths thing going on.

Sometimes disparaged as the "CalArts Style", usually by everything-sucks-these-days types on 4Chan and social media.

Gravity Falls suffered some long delays between episodes in its initial run (a very common problem with cartoons lately), but it was a really fun series to follow and discuss as it came out, with all the codes, cryptic clues, spoken or visual hints of the larger plot, etc. A fundamentalist Christian put up a video rant on Youtube about this evil show transmitting "Satanic symbols" to unsuspecting children, which was jokingly considered essential viewing by the fanbase.

I adore Steven Universe, but agree that, while Peridot and Lapis' character arcs were done quite brilliantly, some of the later character "redemptions" definitely felt too convenient and far-fetched. The plot pacing takes sudden leaps at times too.

Duane Barry, Friday, 16 August 2019 22:56 (two days ago) link

Guys, I might've had one or two too many last weekend and ordered the GI Joe and Transformers complete series on DVD. That may have happened, who can say, really. But rather than feeling regret and shame in the wake of a grievous lapse of judgment I'm pleasantly surprised to announce that I'm finding GI Joe a goddamn delight. It's no wonder it appealed so heavily when I was age eight because it was clearly created by eight-year-olds. Like Tom Sciolli's revisionist history seems positively restrained the longer I watch this stuff. I don't think I've had such a 'this is nuts but I love it' permagrin plastered across my face since the last time I read Kirby's New Gods material.

Amply Drizzled with Pure Luxury (Old Lunch), Saturday, 17 August 2019 01:36 (yesterday) link

I don't think I've had the chance to share this beautiful Yoko Kanno/Maaya Sakamoto opening theme on any other threads. The Record of Lodoss War TV show was pretty bad so I think the song has largely been forgotten

https://youtu.be/9aUfGClzhdI

Vinnie, Saturday, 17 August 2019 03:09 (yesterday) link

i'm surprised to see that Gi joe seems like it holds up better than the Transformers cartoon (i'm assuming through omission).

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 17 August 2019 16:57 (yesterday) link

also: the Zim Movie came out on Netflix yesterday! watched it immediately. was not disappointed.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 17 August 2019 16:58 (yesterday) link

I adore Steven Universe, but agree that, while Peridot and Lapis' character arcs were done quite brilliantly, some of the later character "redemptions" definitely felt too convenient and far-fetched.

Personally I really like how it sticks to its guns and refussd to show violence as the ultimate answer to any conflict, and that there are always other options. Yes, some of the "redemptions" are quite convenient (though the show isn't still over, so we still might sees some repercussions of them), but on the other hand they never come from out of nowhere, it's always estabishled why and how someone might change their minds. Also, it's not like the show has ever said all the deeds of the antagonists are totally forgiven and forgotten, rather than that the antagonists are so powerful that fighting them would be futile, as they would only win, or (in the best case) everyone would die in the fight, with both of those options resulting in massive destruction and collateral damage. So the protagonists trying to come up with a third alternative to that doesn't strike me as bad moral, even if the nuances of guilt and forgiveness are beyond the scope a kids' sci-fi cartoon.

Tuomas, Saturday, 17 August 2019 19:16 (yesterday) link


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