arr it be The Lighthouse (Eggers, 2019) - Pattinson, Dafoe, sea shanties

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyag7lR8CPA

devvvine, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 13:11 (six months ago) link

why'd yer spill yer beans

devvvine, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 13:17 (six months ago) link

So excited.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 14:02 (six months ago) link

In depth interview with DP Jarin Blaschke, for those fascinated with the technical side.

hedonic treadmill class action (Sanpaku), Thursday, 1 August 2019 05:33 (six months ago) link

Ah, shot on film, that explains why it (seems to) look so good. Every video B&W conversion I can think of has looked like washed-out dogshit.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 1 August 2019 05:50 (six months ago) link

ok

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 1 August 2019 05:51 (six months ago) link

Kinda hoping that "fantasy horror" per the Kodak article, is a misnomer. Not that that would be *bad* per se, but I really want a straight psychodrama about two dudes going nuts on a tiny island.

Auld Drink of Misery (zchyrs), Thursday, 1 August 2019 18:45 (six months ago) link

Yeah, all about this.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 August 2019 18:46 (six months ago) link

this looks fantastic

there has definitely been a dearth of good lighthouse movies

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 1 August 2019 18:49 (six months ago) link

psyched, this sounds great

Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 August 2019 18:50 (six months ago) link

xps

heard the director namedrop Weird Tales and Lovecraft in an interview about this, so i doubt it's really a straight psychodrama

circa1916, Thursday, 1 August 2019 19:37 (six months ago) link

I've avoided most information, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone suffered a case of Space Madness.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 August 2019 19:52 (six months ago) link

I think one could do a fine digital->B&W process, one would just need to do a lot of thoughtful adjustments to the RGB channel contributions.

One of my favorite B&W films of the last decade, November (2017), was shot digital, and in some segments, infrared digital.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19QZy1YHL50

hedonic treadmill class action (Sanpaku), Thursday, 1 August 2019 20:41 (six months ago) link

I don't think every b&w video conversion is awful

I loved The Witch and have been really excited for this

Dan S, Thursday, 1 August 2019 22:42 (six months ago) link

want to see November

Dan S, Thursday, 1 August 2019 22:44 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

New trailer. Looks good and wacky. So stoked for this.

https://youtu.be/42_UHhpq530

circa1916, Monday, 9 September 2019 22:50 (five months ago) link

!

Dan S, Monday, 9 September 2019 22:55 (five months ago) link

Dafoe borrowing the Nicholson axe trot from The Shining

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 05:51 (five months ago) link

also expecting Popeye and Poopdeck Pappy to show up at the end

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:19 (five months ago) link

what?

untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:26 (five months ago) link

just a lotta salty seaside snarling in that trailer

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:46 (five months ago) link

Ahahaha and here I was worried this trailer would spoil or reveal anything.

icy bike chain rain (zchyrs), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 23:39 (five months ago) link

lol that is a good description of it

Dan S, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 23:52 (five months ago) link

What

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 00:20 (five months ago) link

I’ve watched this trailer more times than I’d like to admit. For the What.

circa1916, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 00:49 (five months ago) link

hmmmm possibly watered-down Guy Maddin

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 01:12 (five months ago) link

Did you see The Witch? Not remotely his angle.

circa1916, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 01:18 (five months ago) link

I did not see The Witch, bcz it was called The Witch

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 01:38 (five months ago) link

First they came for people who saw The Witch and I said nothing, etc.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 01:39 (five months ago) link

Morbz i think you would appreciate the Witch.

Eggers is nothing like Madden

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 01:48 (five months ago) link

I am up for watered down guy maddin

ogmor, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 07:39 (five months ago) link

I did not see The Witch, bcz it was called The Witch

It‘s called The VVitch though.

oder doch?, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 08:51 (five months ago) link

pretty excited for this based on The Witch, but not crazy about that 'what' scene, reminds me of how so many scenes in The Master just felt like acting workshop exercises

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 13:10 (five months ago) link

Reading that interview with the DP posted upthread, apparently they made the weirdly specific choice to shoot this in the 1.19:1 Movietone ratio, which sounds pretty neat

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 13:20 (five months ago) link

other films in the last few years have done same... Grand Budapest Hotel?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 13:46 (five months ago) link

Yeah didnt Grand Budapest deploy different aspect ratios for flashbacks iirc? I remember a few others in the last 10 years that have been in academy ratio. Per that interview, I guess 1.19:1 specifically dates from the transition from silent to sound, the DP cites M as the big inspiration to go with it.

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 13:56 (five months ago) link

pretty excited for this based on The Witch, but not crazy about that 'what' scene, reminds me of how so many scenes in The Master just felt like acting workshop exercises


This did remind me of The Master but “acting workshop exercises” for that movie and this scene is a bad take imo. I mean in The Master they are literally doing exercises.

circa1916, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 14:26 (five months ago) link

well yeah theres obviously those parts, but imo a lot of the non-exercise scenes felt like actor-game stuff, like "what if we do a take where instead of the lines you sing 'slow boat to china'", etc. A friend described at the time it as "good, but like watching an acting contest" which I thought was otm.

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 14:43 (five months ago) link

PSH and Joaquin are good actors and I think they did the acting thing well and in a way that was perfect for the tone of the film, but this is for another thread I think.

circa1916, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 15:08 (five months ago) link

“a ghost story” used a v similar ratio iirc

Clay, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:45 (five months ago) link

it was mentioned in the never coming to a cinema near you but those of you that aren't aware should check out british film bait from this year. filmed on a hand-cranked camera that films shots/reels a maximum of 28 seconds in length and developed by the director himself. a truly incredible achievement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmydSyiR59o

https://www.baitfilm.co.uk/

ban golf (jed_), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:25 (five months ago) link

weird, given its not that long since this story was given the film treatment :

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3520714/

mark e, Thursday, 12 September 2019 18:41 (five months ago) link

xp saw bait tonight and loved it, thanks for the tip jed!

ogmor, Thursday, 12 September 2019 22:22 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

ah "curated"

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2019 17:11 (four months ago) link

it's a dis

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 October 2019 17:15 (four months ago) link

It’s a dat

Conceptualize Wyverns (latebloomer), Saturday, 19 October 2019 06:13 (four months ago) link

Whoa, weird, am I the first one to see it here? Or at least revive the thread.

Anyway, saw it last night, still digesting it a bit. A striking film certainly on that technical front alone, pretty much every shot is damn near immaculate; the Movietone ratio worked really well. Pattinson and Dafoe go at it but more in a slow burn than explosive way; if anything Dafoe's most self-consciously 'actorly' moment is clearly scripted that way and is hilariously responded to in context. It's often a very funny film but in the way that Samuel Beckett can be funny, if you like. There are 'big' moments but they all feel earned and I even had an actual jump scare moment.

In terms of whether it's 'fantasy horror' or not -- giving away nothing, it's very clearly psychological horror but could be something else. Weird Tales and Lovecraft, sure I guess, but more in the 'New England can be a fucked up landscape' sense (which given The Witch makes sense). zchrys's "a straight psychodrama about two dudes going nuts on a tiny island" wish upthread is pretty much all you need to know going in.

Music often excellent, pacing works incredibly well, being an actual lighthouse keeper in the 19th century at that place would have driven me goddamn crazy.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 October 2019 15:53 (three months ago) link

More on the location shooting here:

https://www.indiewire.com/2019/10/the-lighthouse-robert-eggers-period-production-design-1202184244/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 October 2019 15:56 (three months ago) link

Well said, Ned.

I dug it, but I will definitely have to see it again to fully absorb it.

Bring a towel.

Conceptualize Wyverns (latebloomer), Friday, 25 October 2019 04:32 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3-mjqQ6BIc

jmm, Sunday, 3 November 2019 14:56 (three months ago) link

Me da just dropped this on me:

So Andrew tell me: why would there even be an ax at that lighthouse????

handsome boy modelling software (bernard snowy), Sunday, 10 November 2019 12:06 (three months ago) link

For chopping firewood?

Οὖτις, Sunday, 10 November 2019 15:23 (three months ago) link

All the stoves I saw were burning coal ...

handsome boy modelling software (bernard snowy), Sunday, 10 November 2019 16:53 (three months ago) link

duh for chopping up old salts

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 10 November 2019 16:56 (three months ago) link

axes are standard equipment for firefighting on ships, and presumably in lighthouses too

Brad C., Sunday, 10 November 2019 17:19 (three months ago) link

* the two monologues where they go off on each other and their respective laconic responses

I'm not sure I can pin down exactly why, but I think this was my least favourite part. The sarcastic reactions, that is. The monologues are funny on their own, without the movie doing the job of demolishing them for us. Maybe it was the repetition of the same beat that made it stick out and feel hackneyed.

jmm, Sunday, 10 November 2019 17:47 (three months ago) link

agreed, I too saw those coming a mile away, should have left them out

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 10 November 2019 20:47 (three months ago) link

That style of gag is so overdone in the 2010s, I’m always annoyed to see ppl still deploying it, espec in period stuff bc it takes me out of it

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Sunday, 10 November 2019 21:16 (three months ago) link

Also an axe would totally be an essential tool for daily use with them building and repairing stuff, working with big heavy ropes & lines, etc

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Sunday, 10 November 2019 21:21 (three months ago) link

Dumb-smart fun for smart-dumb people (me). As much as I have grown to hate how handy #OnePerfectShot is as a slam, Nick P. is so not off the mark deploying it here. I definitely felt the spell it had over me evaporate when Pattinson started flailing his limbs around and swilling ambergris, or whatever. And it never actually hands over subjectivity from the director's head to Pattinson's. But I tilt slightly toward the "pro" camp and all my reservations will probably melt away with time.

temporarily embarrassed thousandaire (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 17:23 (three months ago) link

ty for dn

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 17:33 (three months ago) link

re: ahab -- what if ahab is an actual famous captain in this story?
what if this... is in the moby cinematic dickaverse?

Philip Nunez, Sunday, 17 November 2019 16:51 (three months ago) link

i haven't seen this, but i have to say that all the professional movie reviewers on here make me want to just love every single movie that you hate. talk about fucking snobbery.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 17 November 2019 17:01 (three months ago) link

and that's how we got Trump!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 November 2019 17:27 (three months ago) link

Upside is you’re going to love every single movie ever going forward.

temporarily embarrassed thousandaire (Eric H.), Sunday, 17 November 2019 17:40 (three months ago) link

lol, that's the dumbest response I've ever heard, Alfred.

poptimism disappears when it comes to films, for some reason that i can't fathom.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 17 November 2019 21:31 (three months ago) link

oh, you were serious? I thought we were joshing.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 November 2019 21:34 (three months ago) link

poptimism disappears when it comes to films, for some reason that i can't fathom.

I've no idea what this means. Anyway, this is a message board. If you wanna discuss the movie, by all means, but don't be catty.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 November 2019 21:39 (three months ago) link

i mean, i'm only sort of joshing.

it's just that for films, there always seems to be a pile-on here (and elsewhere) of very snotty critics pooh-poohing the latest "arthouse" thing that popular audiences are excited about. of course, some of these movies might actually suck, but the tone that Morbz (and let's say KJB, for example) takes is just awash in utter snobbery that makes it seem like there are no good movies left. i don't think i've read something from Morbz *liking* a movie since i've been on this site, tbh.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 17 November 2019 21:40 (three months ago) link

it means that in a lot of film threads that i lurk on, there seems to be universal disdain for a lot of "popular" films, whereas the same disdain isn't directed at "popular" music in the same manner. i just don't get it.

anyway, sorry, i actually really like reading yr opinions on many things, not trying to be a turdmuffin, though obviously am, so i step away.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 17 November 2019 21:43 (three months ago) link

Actually, he liked Marriage Story and The Irishman iirc, but he can defend himself.

With all due respect, tabes, you're not around much anymore. KJB is gone. Most film discussions these days (when they happen) tend to be pretty good.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 November 2019 21:43 (three months ago) link

I get where tabes is coming from tho.

temporarily embarrassed thousandaire (Eric H.), Monday, 18 November 2019 00:29 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

I wished I hadn't stayed up late to watch this rubbish. If the non-comedy captain birdseye accent and ropy improvised dialogue + gratuitous masturbation aren't embarrassing enough, it's just a nothing movie - both the horror and the psychodrama elements are piss weak and go nowhere. All involved should feel embarrassed.

calzino, Sunday, 22 December 2019 03:45 (one month ago) link

I think there there was another so so Lighthouse movie from a few years ago that was still better than this shite.

calzino, Sunday, 22 December 2019 03:51 (one month ago) link

spilling beans itt

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 22 December 2019 03:55 (one month ago) link

lol... and that capt ahab reference didn't quite glisten like the pecker of a sperm whale.. who get's paid for doing this stuff?

calzino, Sunday, 22 December 2019 04:03 (one month ago) link

hahaha fuck this was so fucking good. It's been a while since I've seen a good midnight cult movie ala Eraserhead. This will stick with me for a long time. I hope either of these guys gets an Oscar nom.

akm, Monday, 23 December 2019 19:04 (one month ago) link

Looked good, was tedious. Eggers has yet to "wow" me. His films seem to be reaching for some sort of thing - primal horror? - that I just don't think he's able to deliver.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 23 December 2019 21:54 (one month ago) link

I'll take Ben Wheatley in horror-mode over this guy any day.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 23 December 2019 21:55 (one month ago) link

I like some Wheatley, but hasn't captured the horror of awaiting the winter with a failed crop.

The Witch is doing a lot of things that haven't been as well done in the horror genre before. Most notably in period production design, but also in period daily concerns. Your 17th and 18th century farming ancestors had a very real chance of slowly starving to death, and by the end of harvest they'd know whether they'd survive the next 6 months or be reduced to beggars.

Yet to see The Lighthouse, but if Eggers ouvre remains period films with slowly growing dread, leading to his characters finally cracking, that's something new.

Stupor is appropriate (Sanpaku), Monday, 23 December 2019 23:19 (one month ago) link

... and also timely. We're all watching the same news of the collapsing world, and some days its all I can do to stop myself screaming naked down the street. We're surrounded by others pacified with political propaganda, like having credulous neighbors in Jonestown (now there's a film I'd love to see a docu-psychological horror). A horror cinema of this sense of glacially encroaching dread, that its all falling apart and we're doubtless doomed, but which focuses on the psychological tension of the struggle to stay presentable... that's something I can identify with.

I liked The Witch quite a lot. I think its stature will only grow.

Stupor is appropriate (Sanpaku), Monday, 23 December 2019 23:30 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

I was expecting something more tepid reading takes on this here. This was convincingly possessed and demented. Loved it.

circa1916, Saturday, 11 January 2020 09:35 (one month ago) link

I'll take Ben Wheatley in horror-mode over this guy any day.


Also hard disagree there. Feel BW’s on the platter ~cult weirdness~ has a fraction of the depth it’s trying to convince you it has and I don’t get his high esteem around these parts.

circa1916, Saturday, 11 January 2020 16:20 (one month ago) link

I’m more of an Amy Jump fan

Οὖτις, Saturday, 11 January 2020 18:13 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

when the two actors started autocritiquing the movie via each other's performances {You're a PARODY of an old salt!) i lost all hope

basically a Corman movie with drunken comedy and Prometheus baggage; nice-looking tho

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 15:38 (three weeks ago) link

i'll send tabes a list of the many movies i liked this year btw

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 15:40 (three weeks ago) link

Dafoe really makes Lionel Barrymore look like the king of Bressonian understatement in this

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 15:41 (three weeks ago) link

xp it better be a list of pop movies you liked this year or else his point is proven

I Heard You Ain't HOOS's (Eric H.), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 15:46 (three weeks ago) link

i think Little Women, Ad Astra, Irishman and Dolemite count on that score

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 15:50 (three weeks ago) link

Also, a lot more pop than this movie tbh.

I Heard You Ain't HOOS's (Eric H.), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 15:52 (three weeks ago) link

People are suckers for Grand Guignol when it's black and white.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 15:57 (three weeks ago) link

nice-looking tho

nice-sounding too

I Heard You Ain't HOOS's (Eric H.), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 15:57 (three weeks ago) link

Hell yeah we are xp

Baby yoda laid an egg (wins), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 15:59 (three weeks ago) link

and most successful when it's a comedy (again, the Corman-Price-Lorre films)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 16:04 (three weeks ago) link

This is not a genre of movie https://t.co/pVnlAl3mVk

— Shuja Haider (@shujaxhaider) January 28, 2020

calzino, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 16:07 (three weeks ago) link

yeah I had that argument in 2011 when The Artist wowed too many people ("Silent movies aren't a genre").

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 16:07 (three weeks ago) link

So what tho

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 16:09 (three weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

I saw this on Valentine's Day - I can't off the top of my head think of a film more likely to put people off sex afterwards.

A lot of weird authenticity when you read around about it - they built the lighthouse, a lot of century-old film lenses, they built the light and the foghorn (and most of the weather is natural) - but in the service of very keyed-up and unnatural performances. Which is great!

The real anachronism is that the song they're singing before they don't kiss was written in the 1980s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpWWWhc9QzI

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 17 February 2020 12:39 (three days ago) link

weird, given its not that long since this story was given the film treatment

He's been working on this since before the VVitch, I understand - though both Pattinson and Dafoe approached him after that and asked to be in a film of his.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 17 February 2020 12:43 (three days ago) link


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