PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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this phoney war is brutal

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 October 2019 21:10 (four years ago) link

Feel like this is bad for the government - they’ve got to strike while the iron is hot. Potentially also for us because Cummings is supposed to be stepping down on the 31st

gyac, Monday, 14 October 2019 21:11 (four years ago) link

I think trying pull a move like the voter ID one smacks of fear, behind the scenes - as has been previously posted on here - they are probably plotting to hang on to power somehow rather than win an election that is beyond their appeal to win. Always loads of cunts will vote tories, but their appeal has narrowed a lot since '17 and a stronger LibDems this time could be a winner for Labour.

calzino, Monday, 14 October 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link

the bbc just replayed the Boris: Lenin purging poor old Trostky segment from today. not doing their man any favours there.

calzino, Monday, 14 October 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link

Not saying the voter ID thing isn’t the grubby anti democratic power grab we all know it is, but there’s a fair chance of it being gutted in amendments even if it passed

gyac, Monday, 14 October 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link

much like the press didn't twig about the radicalisation of the conservative party membership until they started trying to deselect all their moderate faves... our esteemed media have shown a similar lack of curiosity towards all of the campaigning that labour (and momentum) have been doing week-in week-out since the 2017 result. there is the potential for something big to be happening, right under our noses, and we wouldn't really know about it because 1. the polls might not pick it up because the momentum canvassing numbers are so large they're reaching people that haven't voted before and 2. the press only ever go on about momentum thugs' crass stalinism. IDS, rudd, and bojo are all potential scalps (though suspect they'll move him to contest another seat.)

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Monday, 14 October 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link

How’s he going to pass his deal without an extension and losing ground to the headbangers?

expect to see a lot of lifetime peerages and knighthoods handed out of this gets through.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Monday, 14 October 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link

Didn’t work for May when she knighted John Redwood lol

gyac, Monday, 14 October 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link

I might have if it had been a promise based on a reciprocal arrangement.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Monday, 14 October 2019 21:47 (four years ago) link

Go ask <insert anyone here> what a promise from Boris is worth.

gyac, Monday, 14 October 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link

I'm somewhat surprised by your lack of cynicism. if this goes through it will be all about deals being done and arrangements being made behind closed doors.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Monday, 14 October 2019 22:19 (four years ago) link

I guess we'll see if Mark Francois is Sir Mark Francois in time.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Monday, 14 October 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link

A Liberal Democrat staffer has been forced to apologise after he claimed that Labour’s Dawn Butler invented her experience of racial discrimination in parliament.
The shadow equalities minister wrote to the Lib Dem leader, Jo Swinson, asking for the suspension of Steve Wilson. He had criticised Butler on Twitter by saying her account of being confused for a cleaner in a lift in parliament because she was black was was “just not true” and she should stop “propagating” such “stories”.

Wilson is an office manager for his wife, the former Labour MP Angela Smith, who was briefly part of the Change UK grouping and drew controversy shortly after its foundation by saying people from black, Asian and minority ethnic backgrounds had a “funny tinge” during an appearance on the BBC Two programme Politics Live. She subsequently said she had misspoken and apologised...

In a reply to a post Butler made on Twitter sharing the article, Wilson wrote: “Sorry but this is just not true. I’ve worked in parliament for 15 years and the lifts have always been for the use of everyone. Only time MPs have priority is during a division. Stories like this don’t do anyone any justice and anyone propagating then (sic)should stop it.”

gyac, Monday, 14 October 2019 22:26 (four years ago) link

Lol ok

Breaking: the UK will table fresh proposals to break the Brexit deadlock this morning, @rtenews understands

— Tony Connelly (@tconnellyRTE) October 15, 2019




3/ It follows a 90 minute meeting between Boris Johnson and DUP leader Arlene Foster, and deputy leader Nigel Dodds in Downing Street last night

— Tony Connelly (@tconnellyRTE) October 15, 2019

gyac, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 08:04 (four years ago) link

but hold on... didn't they break the deadlock last week?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 08:15 (four years ago) link

someone in the comments otm that it is like watching a fly repeatedly banging its head into a pane of glass.

calzino, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 08:21 (four years ago) link

90 minutes sounds like just enough time to finally sort this all out right enough

NEWS Giant penis frog didn’t have a giant penis after all (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 08:21 (four years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/oct/15/neil-woodford-equity-income-fund-wound-up

Woodford continued to charge the fund fees of about £65,000 a day, angering locked-out investors. The fund manager argued that the fees were needed to pay wages and other costs while he shifted investments away from smaller, illiquid assets into larger publicly quoted companies.

imagine paying yourself 65 grand a day for being such a shitty failure as a fund manager that you get sacked by the administrator, not that I'm crying any tears for the investors whose money he's pissed away on failed doorstep lenders and estate agents.

calzino, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 08:21 (four years ago) link

capitalism is the only rational form of economics

NEWS Giant penis frog didn’t have a giant penis after all (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 08:28 (four years ago) link

Totally cool and normal stuff courtesy of the Home Office:

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/oct/15/uk-deport-academic-to-democratic-republic-of-congo-never-visited-sexual-violence

I'm sure Priti Patel will sort it all out.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 08:50 (four years ago) link

"sort it out" would mean fast-tracking her deportation to Priti. Who incidentally her father, who was an immigrant from east Africa previously stood as a UKIP candidate, which won't be shocking news to anybody.

calzino, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 09:13 (four years ago) link

Her family is one of the good ones.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 09:15 (four years ago) link

two absolutely horrific stories there

the picture of the letter from dr hassan's nine-year-old son, who isn't allowed to join her in the uk, nearly made me burst into tears at my desk - just actively aggressive, vile behaviour from the home office

NEWS Giant penis frog didn’t have a giant penis after all (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 09:16 (four years ago) link

fuck's sake

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 09:29 (four years ago) link

I was listening to Richard Radcliffe talk about his young daughter being returned to him from Iran, and he was saying

gyac, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 09:43 (four years ago) link

...that she didn’t really know him well and that there was a “language barrier”. It was just so matter of fact and heartbreaking.

gyac, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 09:45 (four years ago) link

“They said that because I have lived in Nigeria I will have no trouble establishing a life in the DRC"

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 09:48 (four years ago) link

I'm going through a visa renewal for my wife right now and cannot read this stuff as it makes me panic

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 09:51 (four years ago) link

“They said that because I have lived in Nigeria I will have no trouble establishing a life in the DRC"

Kipling-approved.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 09:52 (four years ago) link

"Her husband is a humanitarian coordinator for the United Nations in Yemen, designated a “non-family station” because of the conflict there, so their son is being forced to live apart from both parents, with his aunt in Egypt... Despite Hassan’s husband being unable to have his family with him in Yemen, the Home Office said there was no evidence of exceptional circumstances."

wtaf

"Asani grew up in Nigeria. Although she has a Congolese passport, she has never been to the DRC, which has one of the worst human rights records in the world. She does not speak the main language and knows no one there."

wtaaff

here's another stupid immigration ruling threatening to separate a toddler from her parents from this week:

Her parents & all four grandparents are British citizens by birth, but Priti Patel’s immigration rules say 2 year old should be deported https://t.co/d4IcEJDSgN

— Simon Cox (@SimonFRCox) October 13, 2019

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 10:28 (four years ago) link

it's almost like the windrush disaster had no impact on the government's gleeful embrace of the hostile environment policy

NEWS Giant penis frog didn’t have a giant penis after all (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 10:30 (four years ago) link

Literally nothing changed as a consequence of windrush, the FO's hostile environment policy only hitting the headlines because it hit a demographic to which people/media are largely sympathetic. Amber Rudd went through the revolving door and rapdily back in again, the name was changed to 'compliant environment' and *nothing else changed* apart from the media were largely appeased and it went away as a problem.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 11:16 (four years ago) link

well, yeah

NEWS Giant penis frog didn’t have a giant penis after all (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 11:20 (four years ago) link

Like anyone believes anything Migration Watch has to say about anything.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 11:25 (four years ago) link

Tbf that was from 2016.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 11:25 (four years ago) link

Also it was from Migration Watch.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 11:26 (four years ago) link

Sorry, I wasn't aware of its background.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 11:27 (four years ago) link

Last updated April 2016. They’re a fairly right wing think tank whose only duty is to talk up how legitimately concerned your whiteordinary British citizen is about foreigners.

gyac, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 11:28 (four years ago) link

go off

Dear @joswinson please find below my letter emailed to you yesterday. I hope you will take seriously the racist trope, trolling and gaslighting by a @LibDems member. Especially as he works for his wife, a Lib Dem MP, who referred to people like me as having"funny tinge".@UKLabour pic.twitter.com/1aOASKsmMh

— (((Dawn Butler MP))) (@DawnButlerBrent) October 15, 2019

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 11:29 (four years ago) link

I do remember this poll from March, which tells a rather different story:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47428515

pomenitul, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 11:29 (four years ago) link

Like anyone believes anything Migration Watch has to say about anything.

Lots of people do surely, even if it's preaching to the converted. Seems like their "research" and the resulting rhetoric has been a cornerstone for the right for years.

nashwan, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 11:38 (four years ago) link

I don't know, they seem pretty discredited to me, to all but the swivel eyed.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 11:40 (four years ago) link

Think they were the main reason May's government started giving a specific target of reducing net migration to tens of thousands. I do enjoy the lack of self-awareness in their logo though - a magnifying glass over Britain making something seem a lot bigger than it really is.

nashwan, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 11:45 (four years ago) link

Seems a normal guy with not-at-all-illegitimate concerns
https://www.conservativehome.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Screen-shot-2015-03-27-at-09.02.32.png

gyac, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 11:52 (four years ago) link

dunty / spiked crossover event of the season

Quite incredible to make accusations of racism while branding someone who was born in Britain an immigrant. https://t.co/OuzhpLGHeb

— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) October 15, 2019

NEWS Giant penis frog didn’t have a giant penis after all (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 12:00 (four years ago) link

It's true tho, I'm cool with white racists

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 12:02 (four years ago) link

dunty seems mostly fine, what am i missing

imago, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 12:08 (four years ago) link

Everything

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 12:09 (four years ago) link

doesn't he defend corbyn from his fellow fbpers these days

imago, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 12:12 (four years ago) link


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