This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year AND DECADE in Cinema" -- 2019

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Here we go!!!

https://www.indiewire.com/gallery/best-movies-of-2010s-decade/

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Monday, 22 July 2019 21:27 (seven months ago) link

the obligatory horror inclusions give me a headache

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 22 July 2019 21:38 (seven months ago) link

lol that list, yikes. anyway the best film of the decade is stray dogs

devvvine, Monday, 22 July 2019 21:41 (seven months ago) link

I liked 'Moonlight', a lot, but best of the decade?! Get outtahere. And that's the least of my problems w/ this list. ILX can do better.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 22 July 2019 21:47 (seven months ago) link

would prefer it was all midbrow trash rather than including a film as good as no home movie amongst some of this shit

devvvine, Monday, 22 July 2019 21:49 (seven months ago) link

must watch The Arbor, The Illusionist (2010), Sunset Song, The Handmaiden, The Tale of the Princess Kaguya, Personal Shopper, The Wind Rises again at some point - but most of that top 10 is rank overrated shit.

calzino, Monday, 22 July 2019 21:51 (seven months ago) link

Not down with The Master ranking anywhere other than dead last among PTA movies of the last decade.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Monday, 22 July 2019 22:15 (seven months ago) link

DOCTOR: you cant keep doing this to yourself. making Best of the Decade lists five months early online will destroy you. you must stop posting with ignorance
INDIEWIRE: No,

— Ryan Swen (@swen_ryan) July 23, 2019

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 20:20 (seven months ago) link

aaaaaand I just concluded this semester's film course with a screening of....Moonlight

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 20:31 (seven months ago) link

Detrius in July is disturbing

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 20:56 (seven months ago) link

go to hell Indiewire

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:25 (seven months ago) link

Spring Breakers too low, The Social Network too high, Inception being on the list at all.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:26 (seven months ago) link

big stinkers at #88 and 11, among others

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:28 (seven months ago) link

what i remember of boonmee is more aching generational sadness than "delightful fantasy realm"

devvvine, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:32 (seven months ago) link

Syndromes and a Century is leagues better and definitely top 5, for me.

Funky Isolations (jed_), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:50 (seven months ago) link

placing an espn doc but not nu twin peaks, utter madness

devvvine, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:53 (seven months ago) link

I saw that earlier today and was trying to find an applicable thread...I never care what is #1 on these lists (panel lists, anyway--I'm interested when it's one writer: Hoberman, Edelstein, Kael or Sarris or Kauffmann if they put one together from the grave), what I think is missing, etc.; their interest is seeing films I liked get some notice. So from this list, I enjoy seeing At Berkely, The Turin Horse, Frances Ha, Eden, Margaret, Boyhood, O.J.: Made in America, The Social Network, and Inside Llewyn Davis.

clemenza, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:59 (seven months ago) link

Syndromes and a Century is leagues better and definitely top 5, for me.

― Funky Isolations (jed_), 23. juli 2019 23:50 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

It's also from 2006 :)

Frederik B, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 11:20 (seven months ago) link

People are still maintaining that Moonlight and Fury Road are great films, huh

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:25 (seven months ago) link

They are.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:26 (seven months ago) link

Or we are.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:26 (seven months ago) link

Moonlight isn't a great movie, but it's good enough, and worth inclusion. We tend to forget breakthrough queer films starring African Americans deserve boosting. I screened it yesterday for students, and it impressed them. We had a good chat about its cinematography, narrative, and sound design.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:28 (seven months ago) link

Boost away. Anyone who says it's the best of the last ten years is not serious.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:32 (seven months ago) link

I expect the polls casting wider nets will push The Tree of Life into that #1 spot in the end.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:34 (seven months ago) link

(xpost) Not to get semantic, but it's a poll--it's a bunch of people saying it's one of the best.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:43 (seven months ago) link

I.e., they don't, that I can see, link to individual lists, but it's possible not one of the eleven contributors listed it at #1--it may have just had most of them putting it reasonably high on their lists.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:48 (seven months ago) link

A colleague of mine seems pretty convinced this list wasn't to the letter collaborative and I partially agree.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:50 (seven months ago) link

Meaning someone was allowed to re-order it with readership, etc. in mind, like Rolling Stone and other publications do?

I think with lists like these, voters often use their #1 slot for quirkier, more personal choices. I can see where something like Moonlight would have broad support without even getting close to a #1 vote.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:54 (seven months ago) link

Yeah, it feels a bit like the editor railroaded some titles up (or on the list in the first place). But, all's fair in list-bait.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:55 (seven months ago) link

I wish to hope Bellflower continues to remain 'overlooked'

https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/most-underrated-movies-decade-1202160014/

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 15:16 (seven months ago) link

It's also from 2006 :)

― Frederik B, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 11:20 (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Pedant!

Funky Isolations (jed_), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 16:58 (seven months ago) link

Eh, I think the pedantic thing to say would be that it actually had its Greek premiere at the 2010 Thessaloniki Film Festival, so by the rules guiding most of the ILX film polls it's eligible.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 20:37 (seven months ago) link

that was my criterion ;)

Funky Isolations (jed_), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:49 (seven months ago) link

I don't seem to have rated a single contemporary film as 5/5 since joining Letterboxd 5 (?) years ago, and can't recall one I might from '10-14 (Certified Copy could come close).

So that's my current position: I've seen zero great films this decade.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 July 2019 01:40 (six months ago) link

That King’s Speech blurb is some gymnastics.

jmm, Friday, 26 July 2019 01:52 (six months ago) link

two months pass...

On Thursday, Gotham Award nominations kick things off in earnest.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 14:28 (four months ago) link

https://www.thedailybeast.com/from-joker-to-trump-the-2020-oscars-are-going-to-be-totally-insane-is-it-time-to-tune-out

The 2020 Oscars Will Be a Politically Divided Sh*tshow

The Oscars are cynical awards dressed in the guise of earnestness, which is what the people most vocally critical about them—from far-right news outlets to Marvel fans—miss entirely. Whether the awarded films are “the best” or not is beside the point. The Oscars are a television spectacle that mostly function as a marketing opportunity for large corporations. And these corporations have financial reasons to be concerned about ratings, which is why, every year, we hear about them.

...

Still, great filmmakers can—and have, and must—achieve greatness without the Oscars. Limitations in resources do not necessarily deprive a film of quality, which the history of film can easily attest to. Directors like Shirley Clark, Euzhan Palcy, Elaine May, Vera Chytilová, Bill Gunn, Apichatpong Weerasethakul, Ousmane Sembène, Cheryl Dunye, and Julie Dash made their work anyway and whether we see their films or not is partly up to us—our own curiosity and love for art that is imaginative and doesn’t simply “make you think,” as the trite saying goes, but thinks itself. And as for superhero films, they will undoubtedly continue to get made and distributed to your local multiplexes and chosen streaming services; whether there’s any shame in consuming them will always be both a political and personal consideration.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 22:47 (four months ago) link

it's like a veil has been lifted from my eyes and i can now see everything clearly.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:31 (four months ago) link

Rosenbaum has already posted his Sight and Sound top ten:

https://www.jonathanrosenbaum.net/2019/10/ten-best-list-for-sight-and-sound-2019/

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 24 October 2019 13:01 (four months ago) link

Still mad at him for docking Femme Fatale from his "best of the 21st century" list.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 October 2019 13:01 (four months ago) link

Not a strong year for crossover docs either, huh.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 October 2019 13:02 (four months ago) link

Didn't Foxtrot come out like 5 years ago?

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 October 2019 13:02 (four months ago) link

Here we go!

GOTHAM AWARD NOMINATIONS 2019 ... also known as the A24 AWARDS

Best Feature
“The Farewell” (A24)
“Hustlers” (STXfilms)
“Marriage Story” (Netflix)
“Uncut Gems” (A24)
“Waves” (A24)

Best Documentary
“American Factory” (Netflix)
“Apollo 11” (NEON and CNN Films)
“The Edge of Democracy” (Netflix)
“Midnight Traveler” (Oscilloscope Laboratories)
“One Child Nation” (Amazon Studios)

Breakthrough Director
Laure De Clermont-Tonnerre for “The Mustang” (Focus Features)
Kent Jones for “Diane” (IFC Films)
Joe Talbot for “The Last Black Man in San Francisco” (A24)
Olivia Wilde for “Booksmart” (United Artists Releasing)
Philip Youmans for "Burning Cane" (Array Releasing)

Best screenplay
“The Farewell,” Lulu Wang (A24)
“High Flying Bird,” Tarell Alvin McCraney (Netflix)
“The Last Black Man in San Francisco, Jimmie Fails,” Joe Talbot, Rob Richert (A24)
“Marriage Story,” Noah Baumbach (Netflix)
"Midsommar," Ari Aster (A24)

Best Actor
Willem Dafoe in “The Lighthouse” (A24)
Adam Driver in “Marriage Story” (Netflix)
Aldis Hodge in “Clemency” (NEON)
André Holland in “High Flying Bird” (Netflix)
Adam Sandler in “Uncut Gems” (A24)

Best Actress
Awkwafina in “The Farewell” (A24)
Elisabeth Moss in “Her Smell” (Gunpowder & Sky)
Mary Kay Place in “Diane” (IFC Films)
Florence Pugh in “Midsommar” (A24)
Alfre Woodard in “Clemency” (NEON)

Breakthrough Actor
Julia Fox in “Uncut Gems” (A24)
Aisling Franciosi in “The Nightingale? (IFC Films)
Chris Galust in “Give Me Liberty” (Music Box Films)
Noah Jupe in “Honey Boy” (Amazon Studios)
Jonathan Majors in “The Last Black Man in San Francisco” (A24)
Taylor Russell in “Waves” (A24)

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 October 2019 14:30 (four months ago) link

already p much "no surprises"! well done, all

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 October 2019 16:44 (four months ago) link

I mean, Hustlers up there is a little bit of a surprise.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 October 2019 16:47 (four months ago) link

They don't do supporting actors, right? So the film is there instead of J.Lo.

I guess The Souvenir will get all The Max Bialystock "Too Good" non-honors.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 October 2019 17:07 (four months ago) link

Plenty of those non-honors to go around.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 October 2019 17:15 (four months ago) link

no ScarJo for Marriage Story? lol

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 October 2019 18:03 (four months ago) link

Good to see André Holland though.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 October 2019 18:03 (four months ago) link

Oh my god Joe Pesci is currently on his 20th word pic.twitter.com/fMlqz5Lcsy

— Matt Prigge (@mattprigge) January 8, 2020

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:26 (one month ago) link

Banderas, off to Spain in the morning, won the crowd over by being honest: “I am tired of campaigning,” he said. “I am not a politician. I am an actor!”

https://www.indiewire.com/2020/01/nyfcc-bong-joon-ho-oscar-rock-star-tarantino-confronts-film-critics-1202201531/

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 18:53 (one month ago) link

The rest of the Film Comment top 50 is now posted and the Boyhood/Social Network skew is definitely a minority bloc.

temporarily embarrassed thousandaire (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 January 2020 19:28 (one month ago) link

I like that top 50 overall

Dan S, Friday, 10 January 2020 05:55 (one month ago) link

I got the issue; as usu, the individual lists are more interesting.

Both Molly Haskell and Hoberman have Charlie Says and OUaTiHollywood in their top tens of '19.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 January 2020 20:41 (one month ago) link

OU812iHollywood

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 10 January 2020 22:04 (one month ago) link

The only one of FC's decade 50 I haven't seen is Roma. Criterion coming Feb 11. (I expect to be underwhelmed)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 January 2020 13:54 (one month ago) link

Per Letterboxd, my most watched filmmaker of 2019 was Abel Ferrara; most watched actor, Doris Day. (Respectively due to MoMA retrospective and death.)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 January 2020 14:18 (one month ago) link

I just saw Transit again, almost a year to the day of my first screening. My heart was in my throat. How quickly the times line up with our aesthetic preferences.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 January 2020 14:31 (one month ago) link

xp

Jack Mercer and Dave Fleischer for me, thanks to all those Popeye shorts I logged.

Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Saturday, 11 January 2020 19:29 (one month ago) link

Do you like Franz Rogowski, Alfred? I love him.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Saturday, 11 January 2020 23:02 (one month ago) link

Glad you came around on the Petzold, Alfred!

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Saturday, 11 January 2020 23:05 (one month ago) link

Do you like Franz Rogowski, Alfred? I love him.

― Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_),

I do enough to vote him as a finalist in the Florida Film Critics Award for Best Actor, and, yeah, he's cute in a whey-faced Joaquin Phoenix way.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 January 2020 23:17 (one month ago) link

I missed, for reasons too stupid to go into here, a crucial plot point in Transit and was therefore completely baffled by it and had no idea what was happening. I still enjoyed it though.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Sunday, 12 January 2020 00:42 (one month ago) link

Have just seen that's from Dec 30, so apologies if it has already been posted here

Ward Fowler, Friday, 17 January 2020 11:14 (one month ago) link

Parasite winning best cast at SAGs tonight was embarrassingly thrilling. If it can win the top award at SAG (especially with the AFTRA inclusion), maybe it's got the best picture Oscar in the bag?

temporarily embarrassed thousandaire (Eric H.), Monday, 20 January 2020 03:42 (one month ago) link

Oscars? What're those?

Just got back from Little Women and can't remotely see how that's not the best cast. I mean, Jayne Houdyshell and Tracy Letts are great in it.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 January 2020 03:47 (one month ago) link

Apparently Gerwig's editing choices confused old people!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 January 2020 04:56 (one month ago) link

yeah like that dope J*** Wells

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 January 2020 08:36 (one month ago) link

Yeah, Little Women was fantastic.

temporarily embarrassed thousandaire (Eric H.), Monday, 20 January 2020 14:00 (one month ago) link

Best part of SAG awards: Superhero clip montage (featuring cash-in roles SAG doesn't take seriously enough for awards) & without a single ZSnyder film--yet scored to the Man of Steel soundtrack. Undeniable greatness. Truth will out. #ReleaseTheSndyerCut pic.twitter.com/4hj0wWGyQr

— armond white (@3xchair) January 20, 2020

temporarily embarrassed thousandaire (Eric H.), Monday, 20 January 2020 14:38 (one month ago) link

Keith U goin' characteristically idiosyncratic on the decade... I count 3 liberally defined musicals.

https://www.keithuhlich.com/2020/01/decade-dance-10-for-10s.html

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 21:28 (one month ago) link

Here's my annual survey of last year's 35mm-shot US theatrical releases (26 in part or whole, 18 35-only) https://t.co/BbvvhCzE0e

— Vadim Rizov (@vrizov) January 21, 2020

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 January 2020 13:24 (one month ago) link

PGA and DGA both confirm that this year was about 1917 all along.

Jesus, and I thought Bohemian Rhapsody vs. Green Book was boring.

I Heard You Ain't HOOS's (Eric H.), Sunday, 26 January 2020 20:02 (four weeks ago) link

WHY 1917??

flappy bird, Monday, 27 January 2020 02:18 (four weeks ago) link

why anything?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 January 2020 02:38 (four weeks ago) link

fortunately, it's not important

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 January 2020 02:45 (four weeks ago) link

Fortunately, nothing is.

I Heard You Ain't HOOS's (Eric H.), Monday, 27 January 2020 04:13 (four weeks ago) link

Cut!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 January 2020 04:14 (four weeks ago) link

Nothing matters, but still 1917 matters least of all.

Frederik B, Monday, 27 January 2020 08:43 (four weeks ago) link

soviet proverb

difficult listening hour, Monday, 27 January 2020 09:04 (four weeks ago) link

Look I'm not going to go see a movie called "1917" if it isn't about the October Revolution. That's just how it is.

— Brad 🇮🇷 (@havingabradday) January 11, 2020

xyzzzz__, Monday, 27 January 2020 09:07 (four weeks ago) link

pvmic

culture of mayordom (voodoo chili), Monday, 27 January 2020 15:47 (four weeks ago) link

Oscar will Xerox that top 8.

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Monday, 3 February 2020 16:48 (three weeks ago) link

WGA: Parasite, Jojo Rabbit

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 February 2020 17:24 (three weeks ago) link

the continued success of Jojo Rabbit is unfuckingbelievable

flappy bird, Monday, 3 February 2020 18:07 (three weeks ago) link

it's the "with-it" Life Is Beautiful

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 February 2020 18:13 (three weeks ago) link

Jojo's screenplay is Adapted from my nightmares iirc

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 3 February 2020 18:14 (three weeks ago) link

My main glitches with Jojo is that I think the whole Wes Anderson look is a little played and the trailer/marketing really kneecapped it. Its conceit isn't as affecting/smart as, say, Transit, but I think for a middlebrow movie that tackled a serious thing, it looks great and is funny and is emotional without being bathetic. Taika is phenomenal in it!

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 February 2020 18:51 (three weeks ago) link

Really? as 'adorkable Hitler'?

flappy bird, Monday, 3 February 2020 19:13 (three weeks ago) link

add one to the list
https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=67985

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 3 February 2020 19:15 (three weeks ago) link

whoops, er, broken link i guess

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 3 February 2020 19:15 (three weeks ago) link

I don't have anything against the guy but the whole thing struck me as profoundly stupid and often offensive, not out of malice but ignorance & naivete. of course a holocaust/nazi comedy can be made, but the movie had the stale fake woke posturing of a Sprite commercial. imo

xxp

flappy bird, Monday, 3 February 2020 19:17 (three weeks ago) link

WORST SCREEN COMBO
Any two half-feline/half-human hairballs,Cats
Jason Derulo and his CGI-neutered bulge, Cats
Tyler Perry and Tyler Perry (or Tyler Perry), A Madea Family Funeral
Sylvester Stallone and his impotent rage, Rambo: First Blood
John Travolta and any screenplay he accepts

Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Saturday, 8 February 2020 17:53 (two weeks ago) link


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