― the pinefox, Saturday, 18 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
The good thing about The Premiership is the scope of coverage. It has two shows, one at 7pm and another at 11.45pm. This means that, in theory, one can watch them either before going out or after the pub, an improvement on the BBC's piggy-in-the-middle timeslot of around 10pm.
All of this garnered from just 15 minutes viewing though. We'll see how it goes.
― Ally C, Saturday, 18 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Lynam's past his peak, though, isn't he? It was painful comparing him tonight with the clips from the 1990 World Cup on BBC2: this is a television performer on autopilot.
― Robin Carmody, Saturday, 18 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― jel, Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
The time slot is OK - 96 is right on that. But this channel-switch makes better than anything I have ever seen the watertight case against adverts on the BBC. I cannot bear the way this prog is broken into adverts. It's not just the stoppages etc - it's the way they're all Football Adverts, Tastefully Shot and pretending they Empathize With Us As Fans. One evening of this was bad enough. Think of the drastic pain of the same week in week out.
You may not want to listen to me on these matters. I adored - still adore - Match of the Day and will never be persuaded that this is an improvement.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
(Sorry, I don't think I've ever seen Sky anywhere other than a pub).
And TT certainly lived down to its promise - hey, let's not just interview the poor sod whose harsh dismissal turned the game, let's SIT THEM DOWN IN A BIG VAN FULL OF TELLIES and pick over their red card moment and the deficiencies of their teammates. Prediction: feature will be dropped in a month.
So, essentially - all the old inadequacies of ITV (Lynam so far off his '98 form, they might as well have Richard Keys; there's more - MUCH more - to be said on why Lineker-Hansen-Brooking works and Lynam-McCoist-Venables does not. If The Pinefox wishes to update an old Papercuts article, now might be the time), with a dash of the Satellite Menace. Saving grace: actual presentation of the game. Seems the old zoom-and-lose-greater-picture method has been phased out on the Third Channel.
Still, I have Focus on tape, and will cosy up to that sometime tomorrow.
― Michael Jones, Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Jonnie number 5 was throwing cans at the screen (we were a little tipsy) I was merely shouting.
Where was the footage, really, there's a big fuss this morning in the papers - only 28 mins of actual football. This is simply not good enough. The only good thing about it for me was the early timeslot.
Andy Townsend - absolute muppet, one of the most over-rated players the premiership has ever seen, and now the worst pundit.
aaaarrrrgggghhhhhhh
― cabbage, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― jel, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Greg, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
pro-zone, my arse!
Obviously if I was watching Match of the Day my arse would have never left the seat... and as it was the first day of the season I'm not sure if I would have even blinked till the end credits rolled.
Cracking goal by Smudger for the Leeds though...
― Martin, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― DG, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Greg, sports fan, man of the people.
xoxo
― |\|0|2/|\4|\| |=4'/, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Nick, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
What was quite, quite funny was Gabby Yorath-Logan's mic being left on at each ad break so you could hear her going "Don't panic!" and "It's not going that badly!"
― Greg, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― jel, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― the pinefox, Saturday, 28 December 2002 12:25 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 28 December 2002 12:33 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 28 December 2002 12:38 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 28 December 2002 12:41 (twenty-two years ago) link
― stevo (stevo), Saturday, 28 December 2002 14:06 (twenty-two years ago) link
And then his hopes are dashed straight away when one or both of them deadpans "No Bill, of course not".
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 28 December 2002 14:16 (twenty-two years ago) link
what i don't like about itv is the desperation of it all; it's improved or at least settled but you can see everyone involved weighing up money/career/are my jokes funny/am i what i used to be etc etc. it's not relaxing to watch like motd was. that's not the ads fault though. at times though the bbc coverage was so fusty and insipid and pointless that i value a bit of itv-style ridiculous hype. though i imagine the fusty and insipid out there would disagree. andy townsend has also improved (though he thinks so too uh-oh), ally mccoist is the hugest unfunny TWAT ever (especially thatflirty thing he thinks he has with gabby logan) and i quite liked big ron stifling his giggles for ages after geremi said "balls" the other nite. des is well past it, where is james richardson these days? football italia- now there was a highlights show
― bob zemko (bob), Saturday, 28 December 2002 14:53 (twenty-two years ago) link
― bob zemko (bob), Saturday, 28 December 2002 14:54 (twenty-two years ago) link
― dwh (dwh), Saturday, 28 December 2002 15:06 (twenty-two years ago) link
― dwh (dwh), Saturday, 28 December 2002 15:09 (twenty-two years ago) link
― dwh (dwh), Saturday, 28 December 2002 15:12 (twenty-two years ago) link
― dwh (dwh), Saturday, 28 December 2002 15:14 (twenty-two years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 28 December 2002 15:17 (twenty-two years ago) link
― - N. (dwh), Saturday, 28 December 2002 15:25 (twenty-two years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 28 December 2002 15:30 (twenty-two years ago) link
(he could at least do something that'd replace "premiership parliament" or "on the ball" though)
n: football has never been that pure
― bob zemko (bob), Saturday, 28 December 2002 16:23 (twenty-two years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 28 December 2002 16:25 (twenty-two years ago) link
2. All who've said that ITV 'try to hard to create "personality"' are OTM - it's been one of the problems from the start, really.
3. TS: Premiership Parliament vs The Premiership on Monday
― the pinefox, Saturday, 28 December 2002 20:58 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Saturday, 28 December 2002 21:36 (twenty-two years ago) link
couldn't watch the thing with that fat girl last season
― bob zemko (bob), Saturday, 28 December 2002 23:55 (twenty-two years ago) link
― bob zemko (bob), Saturday, 28 December 2002 23:56 (twenty-two years ago) link
― the pinefox, Sunday, 29 December 2002 00:16 (twenty-two years ago) link
Yet I think it must have been the greatest event in ITV football coverage for many a year.
This season - its only season? Or did it run last year too? yes, I suppose it did - I think I have watched... *every edition*.
It has made me happy, that programme.
It signed off the other night, with little fanfare. My earlier-season wonderings of whether Matt Smith would finally see a need to haul in c.8 panellists to review the season proved baseless.
Yet Smith did say something sparky re. the final Stat of the Day. Was it -- 'A Last Chance For you to get Lost with Lust'? Or was it still more elaborate than that?
Clive Allen, in this final edition, demonstrated how his authority as pundit has grown.
Smith ended it all with a comment about things looking good for Liverpool. I suppose that's how he would always have wanted to end it.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:26 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:28 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:29 (twenty years ago) link
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:33 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:34 (twenty years ago) link
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:34 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:36 (twenty years ago) link
Yes, Townsend is a dead loss. So is Earle, save perhaps for comic value. I am touched to see Stevem backing Clive.
I don't think it's true that they slapped down journos. Certainly Barclay vs Atkinson was a Battle Ronald, I mean, Royale.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:37 (twenty years ago) link
― the bellefox, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:37 (twenty years ago) link
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:39 (twenty years ago) link
Keown was second commentator for a few early games. Then I guess he disappeared.
Southgate's competent dullness could work on a panel that isn't comprised of idiots and wankers.
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 12 July 2010 13:36 (fourteen years ago) link
You shouldn't need Gareth Southgate anywhere near the panel. Surely there are enough ex-footballers/managers out there who both know what they're talking about and are good on telly? The latter bit being the bit that's mostly ignored.
― Matt DC, Monday, 12 July 2010 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Watching BBC/ITV/Sky, it's alarming how little so many ex-players and pundits actually know about football!
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Monday, 12 July 2010 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link
The best panel the Beeb had all tournament was chucked away in an afternoon group game slot, where they had Colin Murray anchoring a panel of McCarthy, Hodgson and Dixon. Chiles is a much better anchorman than Lineker, though the company Lineker is stuck with most of the time does make him shine in comparison. I too had to turn over to Tyldesley, Lawrenson's consistent negative nancy act was so irritating I thought I would actually prefer to listen to Craig Burley.
Panels really missing the O'Neill/Strachan axis of comedy and non-line-toeing this year. I think they strove to find it by flinging a pished Danny Baker in once, but it didn't quite come off and was quickly shelved in favour of received wisdom and meh nothingness.
― ailsa, Monday, 12 July 2010 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link
very odd MotD2 tonight.
Banter between Murray and Lawro based on secret shared jokesMurray's repeated strained analogiesShearer and everyone pretending they've never dismissed Berbatov who is now 'the wizard of Old Trafford' etc
and Motson's astonishing reflective-pensioner commentary, unlike any I can remember.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 19 September 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link
motty's commentary was weird wasn't it. seemed completely, erm, with it during his world cup cameos. odd.
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link
It was as if he didn't realize he was actually doing a commentary - no raised voice, no excitement, no prepared lines - but instead was just talking to himself as he always does watching a match, but with a microphone on.
I've never heard him so quiet and casual. There was a sadness about it too, perhaps deriving from his resignation at the impossibility of Blackpool's task.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Think feigning excitement about what was the most routine of routine wins would have been worse.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link
i hadn't seen this for a long time but whatisup with the outro music? also colin murray is shooting for a cast-inclusive tfi friday vibe.
― FORTIFIED STEAMED VEGETABLE BOWL (schlump), Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i much preferred it to the relentless bellowing bombast anyone else would have employed tbh. what set it apart more than the tone i think was his absent-pundit musing (over an extended passage of play) on what blackpool's gameplan was trying to be. ("they want baptiste in the hole, but..."). most unusual.
murray's "lonely as barthez in a barbershop" gag so stale it wasn't even worth the groan.
― r|t|c, Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link
also shearer being so bewilderingly loud and obnoxious in defending torres i actually had to turn the volume down.
― r|t|c, Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Lawro + Shearer + Murray is pretty much the worst panel imaginable out of the current crew. Only Robbie Savage and his faux-matey laugh-hysterically-at-his-own-joke-then-slap-co-pundit-on-the-leg nonsense would be worse.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Banter between Murray and Lawro based on secret shared jokes
― the pinefox, Sunday, 19 September 2010 21:59
This has been the way on the BBC for some time now. It is often the case that I get a sense they are playing games - trying to say a daft word as many times as possibe, for example. There is a minor betting scoop here somewhere. Possibly.
― kraudive, Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link
I like Robbie Savage!
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link
since we're on the general subject i was reduced to watching final score for a bit this weekend and my god, you think you remember how much of a bellend garth crooks is but you really don't. an impossibly awful man.
― r|t|c, Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link
sav is not even a lovable prat but such is the sheer boorishness otherwise (dicko excepted obv) that i'll accept him without complaint. wouldn't say no to a carlton palmer comeback either tbh.
― r|t|c, Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link
HAHA I REMEMBER THIS!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD6V2xFwpps
― r|t|c, Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link
:D best laugh I've had all day
― cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link
really enjoyed motson's commentary once i decided he was doing it on purpose and i wasn't just listening to his mind falling apart
― jabba hands, Sunday, 19 September 2010 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link
btw - this is something I've wondered for a while. It is generally thought that the commentary for highlights football is done after the game has ended, right?
― kraudive, Sunday, 19 September 2010 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link
crooks is v weird, i go to the footie focus meetings for work and he is like king of the castle. motty has an ancient looking jotter and is quite friendly.
i remember that cobra thing too! it's the way he says cobb-ra that really adds to it. does anyone remember him saying in passing "when you think of your truly world class players, your drogbas, your shevchenkos, your les ferdinands"
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 19 September 2010 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link
lols here it is...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsFX2a626OE
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Sunday, 19 September 2010 23:42 (fourteen years ago) link
MotD: Lineker fumbling simple links and forgetting to ask Hansen to do his 'Liverpool analysis' (which = 'mixed emotions'). Later Lineker announces LAST SEASON'S goal of the season - 'a bit late, probably cos we forgot all about it'.
― the pinefox, Saturday, 25 September 2010 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link
it's actually been better than usual tonight, for all that
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Saturday, 25 September 2010 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link
What was goal of the season btw?
― Darren Huckerby (Dwight Yorke), Sunday, 26 September 2010 09:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Figueroa from his own half vs Stoke.
― meta the devil you know (onimo), Sunday, 26 September 2010 09:18 (fourteen years ago) link
It is often the case that I get a sense they are playing games - trying to say a daft word as many times as possibe, for example. There is a minor betting scoop here somewhere
^sounds exactly like something Shearer would do. I remember when he was playing for England he got a bet going where they tried to get as many song titles into interviews - the one and only time I found him mildly amusing.
― meta the devil you know (onimo), Sunday, 26 September 2010 09:19 (fourteen years ago) link
[Murray reprised it in world cup 2010, instance of his hyperactive self-conscious 1998 retro style]
― the pinefox, Sunday, 26 September 2010 10:07 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm not sure but I think John Motson's strange commentary last week was at least partly the result of him not having mastered the technique of commentating on recorded highlights and making it sound like you were actually there at the game (someone above alluded to this issue as well). Last night his commentary sounded more like his old self. I can't remember which match it was, but I believe he was at the game and his commentary was 'live' in this case. Having said that, there is something going on with him and his voice. He may not have the lung capacity he used to, so he sounds a bit breathless and quiet at the best of times.
― dubmill, Sunday, 26 September 2010 10:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Shearer calling David Silva David Villa twice and Lineker having to correct him.
Lineker forgetting to ask Hansen for his Liverpool analysis was great. Mentioned it in the other thread but his Ginola joke got completely lost in all that, too. Funny stuff.
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Sunday, 26 September 2010 11:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Enjoyed MotD's final-day montage of games, but Mowbray is unbearable, the worst of all the BBC's commentators: it's awful that he's mysteriously been promoted to pole position.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 22 May 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
John Motson referring to Arsenal's "more attacking formation". I always thought they were too defensive.
― Chris, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Final montage showing Lineker telling Hansen he'd forgotten to ask him for his LFC analysis
as discussed upthread.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Mowbray has a weird throaty voice and a perpetual tone of melodramatic "well that's a turn up for the fucking books" pomposity; I feel like every sentence he says is like Christian Bale sarcastically shouting "A DA-DAH DA-DAH" at a director of photography, but slowed down
― MPx4A, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link
that montage was the vilest thing ever, made kurt kren look like ozu
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Mowbray is horribly presumptuous - ie he seems to be always making presumptions about what YOU are thinking, when it's only what he is thinking.
Pomposity and irony together, yes, very bad. And he's been made #1.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link
WOULD, YOU, beLIEVE it
― MPx4A, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua9hYey-uHw
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/EjZ7d.jpg
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link
GM kind of dreadful even in that short clip - the faux-geezer attempt to ingratiate himself. Repellent overall.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Failing to ingratiate yourself in a faux-geezer way with Mark Lawrenson, man
― MPx4A, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.theworldcupingermany.com/artman/uploads/webfeed_new.gif
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link
I thought Motson's effusive coverage of the 7th* most important game of the day was a delight. Bless him.
(* - in order of presentation, anyway; EFC-Chelsea was perhaps the least meaningful game of the day - Everton might have dropped a place and Chelsea were only mathematically threatened by Man City, but that was it - but it was up after the relegation battle).
― Michael Jones, Monday, 23 May 2011 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link
mew MOTD contract agreed - finally with iPlayer availability (from Monday evenings)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18205519
― the dumbest fuck to have ever existed (onimo), Friday, 25 May 2012 12:31 (twelve years ago) link
Hmm, I tend to catch up with MOTD on Sunday, double-header with MOTD2, so although welcome, this is virtually useless to me. Looks like I'm sticking with t0rr3nt3 for now. What's so special about monday evenings?
― give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Friday, 25 May 2012 12:38 (twelve years ago) link
Alan Hansen just completed his last Match of the Day.
Moving.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 11 May 2014 23:10 (ten years ago) link
managed to get a plug in for Sherwood before he went at least
― Number None, Sunday, 11 May 2014 23:18 (ten years ago) link
Thanks for the memories Sherwood.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 May 2014 10:25 (ten years ago) link
Will he ever get the forest gig
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Monday, 12 May 2014 10:50 (ten years ago) link
"Marquee Moon" on Match of the Day?
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 February 2025 22:33 (one week ago) link