Match of the Day vs The Premiership

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It is urgent, and indeed key, that we assess the various and precise implications of the switch of Saturday footy highlights from BBC to ITV.

the pinefox, Saturday, 18 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Just caught some of the new show. First impressions are mixed: Match Of The Day felt lke an old friend (well, the English bits of Sportscene, which we in Scotland still get on BBC) or a comfortable pair of shoes, The Premiership is slightly less middle-aged. I'm not sure that I like this. Tonight they even talked about watching games using the latest computer technology!

The good thing about The Premiership is the scope of coverage. It has two shows, one at 7pm and another at 11.45pm. This means that, in theory, one can watch them either before going out or after the pub, an improvement on the BBC's piggy-in-the-middle timeslot of around 10pm.

All of this garnered from just 15 minutes viewing though. We'll see how it goes.

Ally C, Saturday, 18 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Clive Tyldesley obviously more bearable commentating on Premiership matches than England ones, so I prefer it this way round for that alone. The anorak in me likes the statistics that come up alongside the score from time to time. Arsenal were incredibly lucky to manage 4-0: what is it with them and Boro? (once-in-a-lifetime Boro fluke victory with two own goals clinching the title for MUFC at Highbury last April, Arsenal scoring 6 at the Riverside in the '99 run-in, etc.)

Lynam's past his peak, though, isn't he? It was painful comparing him tonight with the clips from the 1990 World Cup on BBC2: this is a television performer on autopilot.

Robin Carmody, Saturday, 18 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I'm a purist. I think I will always prefer Match of the Day, no adverts for a start. I liked the bit about Ravenelli, a nice human touch. But, Terry Venables analysis of a player in that section with the dodgy graphics was appalling. Rememdy to time slot: video it and watch it at old MOTD time, and FFWD adverts. Ally McCoist could become mre popular, but really what is football analysis without Hansen?

jel, Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

It's possibly the best footy ITV have done - but that's not saying much. I just don't like footy on ITV. I quite agree with Robin C that Lynam seems past it, but I think that's the effect of ITV more than anything.

The time slot is OK - 96 is right on that. But this channel-switch makes better than anything I have ever seen the watertight case against adverts on the BBC. I cannot bear the way this prog is broken into adverts. It's not just the stoppages etc - it's the way they're all Football Adverts, Tastefully Shot and pretending they Empathize With Us As Fans. One evening of this was bad enough. Think of the drastic pain of the same week in week out.

You may not want to listen to me on these matters. I adored - still adore - Match of the Day and will never be persuaded that this is an improvement.

the pinefox, Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Awful beyond words. I was actually a bit excited about it, but then I read some preview in the paper - "Tactics Truck", "ProZone". Oh dear - it's Sky on the small screen*, isn't it?

(Sorry, I don't think I've ever seen Sky anywhere other than a pub).

And TT certainly lived down to its promise - hey, let's not just interview the poor sod whose harsh dismissal turned the game, let's SIT THEM DOWN IN A BIG VAN FULL OF TELLIES and pick over their red card moment and the deficiencies of their teammates. Prediction: feature will be dropped in a month.

So, essentially - all the old inadequacies of ITV (Lynam so far off his '98 form, they might as well have Richard Keys; there's more - MUCH more - to be said on why Lineker-Hansen-Brooking works and Lynam-McCoist-Venables does not. If The Pinefox wishes to update an old Papercuts article, now might be the time), with a dash of the Satellite Menace. Saving grace: actual presentation of the game. Seems the old zoom-and-lose-greater-picture method has been phased out on the Third Channel.

Still, I have Focus on tape, and will cosy up to that sometime tomorrow.

Michael Jones, Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I wish I had more time to write about this, but I was apoplectic with rage at the shoddiness and general banality of "the Premiership"

Jonnie number 5 was throwing cans at the screen (we were a little tipsy) I was merely shouting.

Where was the footage, really, there's a big fuss this morning in the papers - only 28 mins of actual football. This is simply not good enough. The only good thing about it for me was the early timeslot.

Andy Townsend - absolute muppet, one of the most over-rated players the premiership has ever seen, and now the worst pundit.

aaaarrrrgggghhhhhhh

cabbage, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Yeah, The Premiership = DUD, DUD, DUD.

jel, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

As my dad said, football fans aren't interested in seeing a nice video montage of a load of players just standing about just because they're famous. They're interested in football. The attempt to make it all flashy and new was awful. The adverts were patronising, aimed at some kind of market research idea of what a football fan is. ProZone is the biggest joke I've ever seen - wouldn't say, a video, allow you to see what was actually happening, rather than looking at some kind of computer pinball game (my dad also predicted that one would be dropped within a month). Trying to start some kind of niggly Hanson-Lawrenson style friction between Venables and McCoist just didn't work. I actually quite like McCoist as far as ITV pundits go but I prefer the MOTD men, that's for sure. As for Lynam, well, I've never liked him. Lineker's main advantage over him is that he KNOWS ABOUT FOOTBALL.

Greg, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

and can anyone tell me what all that rubbish about the Premierships biggest irritant Robbie Savage was about?

pro-zone, my arse!

cabbage, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I'm surprised there was as much as 28 minutes of football on the new ITV footballing programme. I went out to get beers at the start. Missed no football got home for an advert break. First game ended went downstairs made dinner, well grilled my pizza for that crispy touch after it had been in the over, got a beer out of the fridge went back thinking I would have missed some action. But no... I get back just in time for an advert break...

Obviously if I was watching Match of the Day my arse would have never left the seat... and as it was the first day of the season I'm not sure if I would have even blinked till the end credits rolled.

Cracking goal by Smudger for the Leeds though...

Martin, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I just wish Murdoch (Rupert, not Stuart) would hurry up and buy all sport left on terrestrial telly, so I wouldn't have to put up with it. I'm especially pleased with the amount of football on telly currently, ie not much.

DG, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Ah yes, the interviews. Were they actually done live? It seemed like it. If so, what's the point? It's obvious that managers are going to be boring nine times out of ten, so MOTD had it right by interviewing them all earlier and then just showing the interesting bits later. Elementary sports broadcasting.

Greg, sports fan, man of the people.

Greg, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I'm w/DG on this one, except that I wish rup3r+ murd0k would hurry up and, er, "shuffle off", so that his whole ev0l media empire wd crumble into thee dust amid vicious sibling infighting (sigh)

xoxo

|\|0|2/|\4|\| |=4'/, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Last night's edition saw the launch ( I think - only caught the last 10 mins of Saturday's) of 'The Premiership Parliament' - ie. invited monkey fan audience proferring their wisdom. Truly appalling. Also, Andy Townsend - HE MUST GO.

Nick, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Look! It's a load of blokes talking arse about their team! Am I in the pub? No, I'm watching The Premiership on a Monday night. Why the hell did they do that little quiz? "Alright, you can only pass one question! Who scored the most goals for Leicester last season?" "Don't know!" "Who played every game for their team?" "Matty Holland?" "No! Who was the last player to go to the toilet before Bolton's game on Saturday?" "What exactly is the point in this?"

What was quite, quite funny was Gabby Yorath-Logan's mic being left on at each ad break so you could hear her going "Don't panic!" and "It's not going that badly!"

Greg, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

That phone call to Kevin Campbell was hilarious, so kev was it a penalty? "yeah, he got me round the shoulder" really what else was he gonna say? We've got three long years of this :(

jel, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

one year passes...
Surely this thread revival is overdue.

the pinefox, Saturday, 28 December 2002 12:25 (twenty-two years ago) link

You're missing Stubbs/Robbo/Lawrenson Footie Focus end of year gold as you type.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 28 December 2002 12:33 (twenty-two years ago) link

It's better, isn't it? If only because most of the worst gimmicks have been thrown away and they show a bit more of the actual football. Andy Townsend, mystifyingly, is still around, and they've found no one in the Hansen class. I dare say 95% of football fans would be delighted to get MOTD back. I feel very nostalgic for the theme tune even, especially the first one of the season after ages without it.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 28 December 2002 12:38 (twenty-two years ago) link

I watch the Irish one generally, it's called the Premiership and the hosts are John Giles and Eamonn Dunphy, two humorous characters at the best of times, especially when the host is timid Bill O'Herlihy.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 28 December 2002 12:41 (twenty-two years ago) link

Do they end up rowing over Roy Keane Ronan?

stevo (stevo), Saturday, 28 December 2002 14:06 (twenty-two years ago) link

It's more a Dunphy and Giles as the seasoned cynical critics and timid O'Herlihy as the fan. So when Liverpool were top O'Herlihy will ask really tentatively, almost begging them to agree for once "So guys, do you think that, perhaps, Liverpool REALLY ARE the best team in England?"

And then his hopes are dashed straight away when one or both of them deadpans "No Bill, of course not".

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 28 December 2002 14:16 (twenty-two years ago) link

ah the old tactics truck...

what i don't like about itv is the desperation of it all; it's improved or at least settled but you can see everyone involved weighing up money/career/are my jokes funny/am i what i used to be etc etc. it's not relaxing to watch like motd was. that's not the ads fault though. at times though the bbc coverage was so fusty and insipid and pointless that i value a bit of itv-style ridiculous hype. though i imagine the fusty and insipid out there would disagree. andy townsend has also improved (though he thinks so too uh-oh), ally mccoist is the hugest unfunny TWAT ever (especially thatflirty thing he thinks he has with gabby logan) and i quite liked big ron stifling his giggles for ages after geremi said "balls" the other nite. des is well past it, where is james richardson these days? football italia- now there was a highlights show

bob zemko (bob), Saturday, 28 December 2002 14:53 (twenty-two years ago) link

"the goal rush" is quite good i think

bob zemko (bob), Saturday, 28 December 2002 14:54 (twenty-two years ago) link

whatever happend to football italia and associated sunday live match. you don't miss it till you ain't got it: sorely true now.

dwh (dwh), Saturday, 28 December 2002 15:06 (twenty-two years ago) link

the thing is with james richardson though, I'm not sure how well he'd rub up with PUNDITS, ie he always comes across as a lone-gun (relies on scripted catch-lines etc) but that's probably just preconception/ie my thoughts being moulded by what I'm used to seeing him do. but, it would be weird if he did have a panel to consult with; it'd have to more highbrow than the townsend-mccoist axis though (for high-brow read better).

dwh (dwh), Saturday, 28 December 2002 15:09 (twenty-two years ago) link

anyway, david (that's me), who says there needs to be discussion? do we really need a panel? well, it does bring a bit of variety to discussion, you get settled CHARACTERS, you learn what they're going to say, what they won't say, and when they do say what they won't then you get shocks, and you also get comfort and that's what was great about MotD, they seemed to have these 3D (4D?) "characters" whereas the premiership (maybe just unfamiliarity again, or just not having watched it enough) seems to be trying to force 'personality' where the pundits don't really have any (For 'don't really have any' read they're not interesting as Lawro/Hansen).

dwh (dwh), Saturday, 28 December 2002 15:12 (twenty-two years ago) link

oh, i don't know. i like james richardson, but i think MotD/Prem NEEDS discussion to make it what it was.

dwh (dwh), Saturday, 28 December 2002 15:14 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am a purist in these matters. There should be no adverts, no panel, no presenter and no commentary. I'll allow edited highlights though because I am also a pragmatist.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 28 December 2002 15:17 (twenty-two years ago) link

The football shall not leave the floor of the pitch.

- N. (dwh), Saturday, 28 December 2002 15:25 (twenty-two years ago) link

Keep it on the floor lad, leave up there for the angels.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 28 December 2002 15:30 (twenty-two years ago) link

ur right viz richardson on second thought i'd rather he stay unemployed than have to try and bounce off itv idiots. it's prob a testament to football italia that it's impossible to recreate parts of it out of context

(he could at least do something that'd replace "premiership parliament" or "on the ball" though)

n: football has never been that pure

bob zemko (bob), Saturday, 28 December 2002 16:23 (twenty-two years ago) link

It has in my wordless dreams.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 28 December 2002 16:25 (twenty-two years ago) link

1. NB: Steady Mike's prescience re. Tactics Truck.

2. All who've said that ITV 'try to hard to create "personality"' are OTM - it's been one of the problems from the start, really.

3. TS: Premiership Parliament vs The Premiership on Monday

the pinefox, Saturday, 28 December 2002 20:58 (twenty-two years ago) link

N., you are crazy. Every time I've gone to a match in a stadium, where I could smell the grass, I've sat there thinking, "It's nearly football, but where's the commentary & the replays & the stats?"

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Saturday, 28 December 2002 21:36 (twenty-two years ago) link

prem on monday classic for cramming so many pundits behind one table

couldn't watch the thing with that fat girl last season

bob zemko (bob), Saturday, 28 December 2002 23:55 (twenty-two years ago) link

matt "punster" smith c/d?

bob zemko (bob), Saturday, 28 December 2002 23:56 (twenty-two years ago) link

Oh - Matt's not that fat.

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 December 2002 00:16 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...
There has never been a thread about The Premiership on Monday.

Yet I think it must have been the greatest event in ITV football coverage for many a year.

This season - its only season? Or did it run last year too? yes, I suppose it did - I think I have watched... *every edition*.

It has made me happy, that programme.

It signed off the other night, with little fanfare. My earlier-season wonderings of whether Matt Smith would finally see a need to haul in c.8 panellists to review the season proved baseless.

Yet Smith did say something sparky re. the final Stat of the Day. Was it -- 'A Last Chance For you to get Lost with Lust'? Or was it still more elaborate than that?

Clive Allen, in this final edition, demonstrated how his authority as pundit has grown.

Smith ended it all with a comment about things looking good for Liverpool. I suppose that's how he would always have wanted to end it.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:14 (twenty years ago) link

I think it was 'A last list to get you lost in lust'. Re: the 'Champagne Moment' of the year.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:26 (twenty years ago) link

i enjoy Nationwide League Extra that little bit more personally

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:28 (twenty years ago) link

I enjoyed the Premiership trivia tho. Only five teams have won the Div 1 play-offs and not gone straight back to Div 1 the following season.

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:29 (twenty years ago) link

meg is/was a big fan of PoM, although i think it got a bit too chummy (also andy townsend should be shot, but that's by the by) and the ex-footballers were always far too willing to slap down the journos who occassionally appeared. Matt Smith is good though, i hope ITV find something decent for him to do.

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:33 (twenty years ago) link

4 pundits is waaay too many people for anything other than Sky's Soccer Saturday. i'd keep Allen and Atkinson and send the others packing.

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:34 (twenty years ago) link

what about robbie earle? are you some sort of ronnist?

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:34 (twenty years ago) link

i'd move Earle to Dimbleby's Sunday lunchtime slot

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:36 (twenty years ago) link

I'm humbled to have remembered a Matt Smith moment far worse than the Nipper.

Yes, Townsend is a dead loss. So is Earle, save perhaps for comic value. I am touched to see Stevem backing Clive.

I don't think it's true that they slapped down journos. Certainly Barclay vs Atkinson was a Battle Ronald, I mean, Royale.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:37 (twenty years ago) link

(x-post: I'd give Smith a job as a lecturer in English somewhere.)

the bellefox, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:37 (twenty years ago) link

"Romeo & Juliet, lads... it's basically about sex, isn't it?"

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:39 (twenty years ago) link

Keown was second commentator for a few early games. Then I guess he disappeared.

Southgate's competent dullness could work on a panel that isn't comprised of idiots and wankers.

Merdeyeux, Monday, 12 July 2010 13:36 (fourteen years ago) link

You shouldn't need Gareth Southgate anywhere near the panel. Surely there are enough ex-footballers/managers out there who both know what they're talking about and are good on telly? The latter bit being the bit that's mostly ignored.

Matt DC, Monday, 12 July 2010 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Watching BBC/ITV/Sky, it's alarming how little so many ex-players and pundits actually know about football!

The referee was perfect (Chris), Monday, 12 July 2010 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link

The best panel the Beeb had all tournament was chucked away in an afternoon group game slot, where they had Colin Murray anchoring a panel of McCarthy, Hodgson and Dixon. Chiles is a much better anchorman than Lineker, though the company Lineker is stuck with most of the time does make him shine in comparison. I too had to turn over to Tyldesley, Lawrenson's consistent negative nancy act was so irritating I thought I would actually prefer to listen to Craig Burley.

Panels really missing the O'Neill/Strachan axis of comedy and non-line-toeing this year. I think they strove to find it by flinging a pished Danny Baker in once, but it didn't quite come off and was quickly shelved in favour of received wisdom and meh nothingness.

ailsa, Monday, 12 July 2010 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

very odd MotD2 tonight.

Banter between Murray and Lawro based on secret shared jokes
Murray's repeated strained analogies
Shearer and everyone pretending they've never dismissed Berbatov who is now 'the wizard of Old Trafford' etc

and Motson's astonishing reflective-pensioner commentary, unlike any I can remember.

the pinefox, Sunday, 19 September 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link

motty's commentary was weird wasn't it. seemed completely, erm, with it during his world cup cameos. odd.

The referee was perfect (Chris), Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link

It was as if he didn't realize he was actually doing a commentary - no raised voice, no excitement, no prepared lines - but instead was just talking to himself as he always does watching a match, but with a microphone on.

I've never heard him so quiet and casual. There was a sadness about it too, perhaps deriving from his resignation at the impossibility of Blackpool's task.

the pinefox, Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Think feigning excitement about what was the most routine of routine wins would have been worse.

Matt DC, Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link

i hadn't seen this for a long time but whatisup with the outro music? also colin murray is shooting for a cast-inclusive tfi friday vibe.

FORTIFIED STEAMED VEGETABLE BOWL (schlump), Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i much preferred it to the relentless bellowing bombast anyone else would have employed tbh. what set it apart more than the tone i think was his absent-pundit musing (over an extended passage of play) on what blackpool's gameplan was trying to be. ("they want baptiste in the hole, but..."). most unusual.

murray's "lonely as barthez in a barbershop" gag so stale it wasn't even worth the groan.

r|t|c, Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link

also shearer being so bewilderingly loud and obnoxious in defending torres i actually had to turn the volume down.

r|t|c, Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Lawro + Shearer + Murray is pretty much the worst panel imaginable out of the current crew. Only Robbie Savage and his faux-matey laugh-hysterically-at-his-own-joke-then-slap-co-pundit-on-the-leg nonsense would be worse.

Matt DC, Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Banter between Murray and Lawro based on secret shared jokes

― the pinefox, Sunday, 19 September 2010 21:59

This has been the way on the BBC for some time now. It is often the case that I get a sense they are playing games - trying to say a daft word as many times as possibe, for example. There is a minor betting scoop here somewhere. Possibly.

kraudive, Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I like Robbie Savage!

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link

since we're on the general subject i was reduced to watching final score for a bit this weekend and my god, you think you remember how much of a bellend garth crooks is but you really don't. an impossibly awful man.

r|t|c, Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link

sav is not even a lovable prat but such is the sheer boorishness otherwise (dicko excepted obv) that i'll accept him without complaint. wouldn't say no to a carlton palmer comeback either tbh.

r|t|c, Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link

HAHA I REMEMBER THIS!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD6V2xFwpps

r|t|c, Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

:D best laugh I've had all day

cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link

really enjoyed motson's commentary once i decided he was doing it on purpose and i wasn't just listening to his mind falling apart

jabba hands, Sunday, 19 September 2010 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link

btw - this is something I've wondered for a while. It is generally thought that the commentary for highlights football is done after the game has ended, right?

kraudive, Sunday, 19 September 2010 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link

crooks is v weird, i go to the footie focus meetings for work and he is like king of the castle. motty has an ancient looking jotter and is quite friendly.

i remember that cobra thing too! it's the way he says cobb-ra that really adds to it. does anyone remember him saying in passing "when you think of your truly world class players, your drogbas, your shevchenkos, your les ferdinands"

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 19 September 2010 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link

lols here it is...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsFX2a626OE

The referee was perfect (Chris), Sunday, 19 September 2010 23:42 (fourteen years ago) link

MotD: Lineker fumbling simple links and forgetting to ask Hansen to do his 'Liverpool analysis' (which = 'mixed emotions'). Later Lineker announces LAST SEASON'S goal of the season - 'a bit late, probably cos we forgot all about it'.

the pinefox, Saturday, 25 September 2010 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link

it's actually been better than usual tonight, for all that

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Saturday, 25 September 2010 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

What was goal of the season btw?

Darren Huckerby (Dwight Yorke), Sunday, 26 September 2010 09:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Figueroa from his own half vs Stoke.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Sunday, 26 September 2010 09:18 (fourteen years ago) link

It is often the case that I get a sense they are playing games - trying to say a daft word as many times as possibe, for example. There is a minor betting scoop here somewhere

^sounds exactly like something Shearer would do. I remember when he was playing for England he got a bet going where they tried to get as many song titles into interviews - the one and only time I found him mildly amusing.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Sunday, 26 September 2010 09:19 (fourteen years ago) link

[Murray reprised it in world cup 2010, instance of his hyperactive self-conscious 1998 retro style]

the pinefox, Sunday, 26 September 2010 10:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not sure but I think John Motson's strange commentary last week was at least partly the result of him not having mastered the technique of commentating on recorded highlights and making it sound like you were actually there at the game (someone above alluded to this issue as well). Last night his commentary sounded more like his old self. I can't remember which match it was, but I believe he was at the game and his commentary was 'live' in this case. Having said that, there is something going on with him and his voice. He may not have the lung capacity he used to, so he sounds a bit breathless and quiet at the best of times.

dubmill, Sunday, 26 September 2010 10:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Shearer calling David Silva David Villa twice and Lineker having to correct him.

Lineker forgetting to ask Hansen for his Liverpool analysis was great. Mentioned it in the other thread but his Ginola joke got completely lost in all that, too. Funny stuff.

The referee was perfect (Chris), Sunday, 26 September 2010 11:38 (fourteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Enjoyed MotD's final-day montage of games, but Mowbray is unbearable, the worst of all the BBC's commentators: it's awful that he's mysteriously been promoted to pole position.

the pinefox, Sunday, 22 May 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

John Motson referring to Arsenal's "more attacking formation". I always thought they were too defensive.

Chris, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Final montage showing Lineker telling Hansen he'd forgotten to ask him for his LFC analysis

as discussed upthread.

the pinefox, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Mowbray has a weird throaty voice and a perpetual tone of melodramatic "well that's a turn up for the fucking books" pomposity; I feel like every sentence he says is like Christian Bale sarcastically shouting "A DA-DAH DA-DAH" at a director of photography, but slowed down

MPx4A, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link

that montage was the vilest thing ever, made kurt kren look like ozu

nakhchivan, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Mowbray is horribly presumptuous - ie he seems to be always making presumptions about what YOU are thinking, when it's only what he is thinking.

Pomposity and irony together, yes, very bad. And he's been made #1.

the pinefox, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link

WOULD, YOU, beLIEVE it

MPx4A, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua9hYey-uHw

nakhchivan, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/EjZ7d.jpg

nakhchivan, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link

GM kind of dreadful even in that short clip - the faux-geezer attempt to ingratiate himself. Repellent overall.

the pinefox, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Failing to ingratiate yourself in a faux-geezer way with Mark Lawrenson, man

MPx4A, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought Motson's effusive coverage of the 7th* most important game of the day was a delight. Bless him.

(* - in order of presentation, anyway; EFC-Chelsea was perhaps the least meaningful game of the day - Everton might have dropped a place and Chelsea were only mathematically threatened by Man City, but that was it - but it was up after the relegation battle).

Michael Jones, Monday, 23 May 2011 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

mew MOTD contract agreed - finally with iPlayer availability (from Monday evenings)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18205519

the dumbest fuck to have ever existed (onimo), Friday, 25 May 2012 12:31 (twelve years ago) link

Hmm, I tend to catch up with MOTD on Sunday, double-header with MOTD2, so although welcome, this is virtually useless to me. Looks like I'm sticking with t0rr3nt3 for now. What's so special about monday evenings?

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Friday, 25 May 2012 12:38 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

Alan Hansen just completed his last Match of the Day.

Moving.

the pinefox, Sunday, 11 May 2014 23:10 (ten years ago) link

managed to get a plug in for Sherwood before he went at least

Number None, Sunday, 11 May 2014 23:18 (ten years ago) link

Thanks for the memories Sherwood.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 May 2014 10:25 (ten years ago) link

Will he ever get the forest gig

james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Monday, 12 May 2014 10:50 (ten years ago) link

ten years pass...

"Marquee Moon" on Match of the Day?

Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 February 2025 22:33 (one week ago) link


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