KNIVES OUT -- dir. Rian Johnson; Daniel Craig, Michael Shannon, Jamie Lee Curtis, Chris Evans, etc. etc.

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This tender biopic of Thom Yorke circa Amnesiac will thrill and delight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGqiHJTsRkQ

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:45 (seven months ago) link

I'm up for a modern take on the Agatha Christie formula, but this looks a bit smug.

Herman Woke (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:50 (seven months ago) link

Complaints complaints. (Also I already like it better than Gosford Park.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:53 (seven months ago) link

it's been a long time since I've seen a trailer for something this strongly predestined to be a flop

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:54 (seven months ago) link

that is one helluva cast

has daniel craig had some work done? he looks kinda... odd

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:54 (seven months ago) link

Friend who saw it already says it's his second fave film of the year, behind Ford V. Ferrari.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:56 (seven months ago) link

Rian Johnson's Bad Times at the El Royale

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:56 (seven months ago) link

Rian Johnson should be banned from making films, hate him so much.

too bad, cuz this cast looks very entertaining

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:58 (seven months ago) link

Friend who saw it already says it's his second fave film of the year, behind Ford V. Ferrari.

this fits

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:00 (seven months ago) link

Perhaps also relevant:

Also if you like watching movie stars being movie stars, you will love KNIVES OUT. https://t.co/96i1mGcDGJ

— Karina Longworth (@KarinaLongworth) July 2, 2019

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:06 (seven months ago) link

it's been a long time since I've seen a trailer for something this strongly predestined to be a flop

You never saw the trailer for Valerian?

MarkoP, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:09 (seven months ago) link

I *saw* Valerian lol

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:13 (seven months ago) link

going by the trailer I can 1000% live without Chris Evans' version of being a movie star

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:13 (seven months ago) link

it's been a long time since I've seen a trailer for something this strongly predestined to be a flop

― Simon H., Tuesday, July 2, 2019 8:54 AM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

so it's a non-star wars rian johnson film

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:16 (seven months ago) link

Looper did fine, no?

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:17 (seven months ago) link

Budget $30 million[4]
Box office $176.5 million[4]

pretty good!

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:18 (seven months ago) link

lol yeah i always forget about looper, the other rian johnson film namechecked in the trailer

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:20 (seven months ago) link

trailer really got me when chris evans started telling a roomful of people to eat shit

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:21 (seven months ago) link

but yeah I also hated The Brothers Bloom which is reason enough to avoid this one

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:21 (seven months ago) link

(since this seems to be in a similar register)

that said, I would still see the cubicle-farm-set Brick sequel that lives in my head

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:24 (seven months ago) link

when it comes to upcoming movies featuring rich people trapped in mansions, I would rather go see Ready or Not:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtYTwUxhAoI

(which pretty much looks like Get Out without any social commentary but either looks preferable to the movie above)

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:25 (seven months ago) link

FWIW, Longworth is Johnson's partner.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:26 (seven months ago) link

nb that the ppl she's addressing are interested in movie-star-era Hollywood bcz of her own criticism and research and analysis and biographing and writing and speaking and broadcasting and publishing, not randos who know who her boyfriend is

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 21:17 (seven months ago) link

i am going to see the hell out of this

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 11:07 (seven months ago) link

when craig said "i suspect foul play" i shrieked

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 11:07 (seven months ago) link

Something something "Clue: The Movie."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 11:42 (seven months ago) link

Very low bar but this looks way more interesting/entertaining than Joker

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 12:46 (seven months ago) link

Why'd you pick that one?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 12:48 (seven months ago) link

Because it looks like one of the worst movies ever made and I want to take any and every opportunity to talk shit about it

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 12:49 (seven months ago) link

“This slime mold is horrible and clogging my pores but at least it isn’t fucking Joker.”

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 13:01 (seven months ago) link

^^^ gets it

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 13:06 (seven months ago) link

heh, now I get it.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 13:14 (seven months ago) link

I’m on board, I am already prepared to defend this movie at length against the gripes of you tedious aesthetes

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 13:27 (seven months ago) link

guy hitting the piano key only good thing in that trailer

oscar bravo, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 13:35 (seven months ago) link

That was a confusing trailer to watch trying to figure out when Thom Yorke appears.

So it's like the Westing Game?

Yerac, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 14:01 (seven months ago) link

Lakeith Stanfield chuckling at "CSI:KFC" also very funny.

I would honestly be pretty OK with seeing a non-comedy version of this, but once it became clear during the trailer that it was just a setup for lots of sitcom-y joke exchanges I was out.

One Eye Open, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 14:27 (seven months ago) link

It looks like a Saturday Night Live video piece where they take a 70s Agatha Christie movie and turn it so it's all about the Trump family.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 14:35 (seven months ago) link

This looks ridiculous and I am here for it, can't wait.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 14:38 (seven months ago) link

lol unperson otm

the ironic thing is that I can imagine a non comedy version of this actually being pretty funny if they just did it without all the JOEK moments and let it be campy pulp. But instead it looks like that weird mode of modern comedy where so much of the humor is just based on breaking the tension of dramatic moments by having characters suddenly say something snarky or confused. It's such a weirdly nervous and insecure style, like the filmmakers are constantly reminding you that they know they are making a comedy. You can just see them giving the script to a bunch of punchup sitcom writers and saying "make sure there is 1 joke on every page, no matter what"

One Eye Open, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 14:42 (seven months ago) link

so you do not like jokes, noted

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:04 (seven months ago) link

I like jokes

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:06 (seven months ago) link

Along the lines of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXn8CsQU1-U

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:06 (seven months ago) link

Yeah but without peter sellers in yellowface

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:11 (seven months ago) link

Yeah, that's pretty unwatchable.

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:35 (seven months ago) link

Paging Morbs

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:35 (seven months ago) link

So it's like the Westing Game?

once you see it... it can't be unseen

I wonder if everyone who watched Logan Lucky is going to get Daniel Craig to do ridiculous American regional accents now. It's a good bit.

mh, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:05 (seven months ago) link

yeah lol

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:07 (seven months ago) link

i like jokes fine but i'm just very bored w/stuff like toni collette's "no we cant ask?" bit, that style of gag is just so overdone and all over the place these days

One Eye Open, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:09 (seven months ago) link

I do not think this is supposed to be a Comedy...?

Like, yes there are some jokes in the trailer and the overall feel is ridiculous but it seems like it is aiming for irreverent drama over comedy; like is everyone assuming Chris Evans telling his whole family to eat shit is supposed to be a punchline or something? Did people think The Last Jedi was a comedy?

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:43 (seven months ago) link

Could be interesting if it's a Better Call Saul thing where it shows Craig with a different name and accent until a threat to his life forces him to assume another identity.

Wait that's a Tana French novel nm

papa stank (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 January 2020 01:56 (one month ago) link

I hope he casts Kelly Marie Tran.

Roz, Monday, 6 January 2020 01:57 (one month ago) link

craigs character would be fairly low down the list of those id follow to a sequel tbh

Poirot stories are not about Poirot

don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Monday, 6 January 2020 03:02 (one month ago) link

I would totally see a Knives Out sequel, and yet one of the great things about the movie is that it's a star-studded Hollywood entertainment that's not a franchise.

jaymc, Monday, 6 January 2020 03:17 (one month ago) link

Why has Knives Out — an old-school whodunnit, unrelated to any established franchise or source material — done so well? Some of the movie’s success might be thanks to good holiday timing, but it also has something that the latest entries in the Star Wars, Jumanji, Frozen, Addams Family, and Maleficent franchises do not: incredible word-of-mouth buzz.

...

The sort of word of mouth that sells out theaters five weeks into a film’s release often has very little to do with critics and everything to do with people telling their friends and family that a movie is actually good. Not “good for a Marvel movie,” not “a little long but has some good special effects” or even “definitely going to win some Oscars,” but good in that way that makes it hard to shut up about — usually the result of a movie exceeding expectations in some, often ineffable, way. That’s what Knives Out is: a pretty good movie that’s exceeding people’s expectations because their expectations for the movies are so damn low.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/annehelenpetersen/knives-out-rian-johnson-box-office-movies

jaymc, Monday, 6 January 2020 03:19 (one month ago) link

(Johnson has repeatedly said that while he's always been disinterested in sequels, the beauty of doing further Benoit Blanc Mysteries is that they'd not be sequels, just new mysteries about different characters.)

don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Monday, 6 January 2020 03:36 (one month ago) link

xp it manages to be a whodunnit and fun in a very contemporary american way, whereas a lot of pure whodunnits try to be period pieces or otherwise entangled and it limits the audience

the joke about the house being acquired contemporarily pokes fun at that, because it’s the atemporal element

babu frik fan account (mh), Monday, 6 January 2020 04:09 (one month ago) link

whodunnit and fun in a very contemporary american way

... while using and playing with all the traditional genre tropes. Obviously "genre tropes, but contemporary!" is not a new idea, but normally it's not done this well.

lukas, Friday, 10 January 2020 01:11 (one month ago) link

this was fabulous, loved the coffee cup framing and all the delicious overacting and mugging, like an updated parody of Murder By Death. all the acting was pitch perfect.

Why has Knives Out — an old-school whodunnit, unrelated to any established franchise or source material — done so well?

because America want to see rich people get theirs for once

The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Monday, 13 January 2020 05:37 (one month ago) link

Kinda surprised how un-twisty it was. I was expecting at least one more surprise in the final third. I think movies like Wild Things have permanently messed up my ‘twist anticipation’ gland.

piscesx, Monday, 13 January 2020 10:33 (one month ago) link

really happy i went out to see this in the theater, it was so much fun. i was cracking up at random daniel craig line deliveries. the way the tone modulated from farcical to sinister was a neat and difficult trick--thinking of the family descending on marta's failing car like zombie vultures vs. the genuinely unsettling encounter with walt in the hallway of her apartment. it made the last shot feel very well-earned. also, since i haven't seen it mentioned in this thread at least, what a delight christopher plummer is in his scenes.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 18 January 2020 03:27 (one month ago) link

great cameo by downtown maynard, massachusetts too

call all destroyer, Saturday, 18 January 2020 03:27 (one month ago) link

I appreciated that Ana de Armas, probably 29ish when this was shot, was able to play a nuanced character that didn’t seem artificially old or young. Just a responsible person, not a kid, who lives with her mom and works a private nursing job, but still has social potential to live out

babu frik fan account (mh), Saturday, 18 January 2020 04:19 (one month ago) link

Just saw it again with Rian Johnson’s commentary in my ear, some great stuff about sets and locations, improvised moments, and especially cinematography. Biggest revelation for me was hearing that Benoit Blanc’s voice owes the most to Ken Burns talking head, writer, and Lost Causer Shelby Foote.

Also Johnson storyboards his movies himself with bad line drawings, and one of the key payoffs for Marta’s story, of knowing by look and feel which drug was which, wasn’t in his first draft but was pitched by his first readers.

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Sunday, 19 January 2020 00:30 (one month ago) link

wow yeah shelby foote did basically talk like that

call all destroyer, Sunday, 19 January 2020 00:56 (one month ago) link

omg that is awesome

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 19 January 2020 00:58 (one month ago) link

We’re still in theaters this weekend! If you haven’t caught @KnivesOut yet or if you want another shot of whudunnitness we’ve got you covered. Though I can’t promise it will equal the splendor of my original storyboard vision. pic.twitter.com/95rzRbSmBE

— Rian Johnson (@rianjohnson) January 19, 2020

don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Sunday, 19 January 2020 02:39 (one month ago) link

lmao

call all destroyer, Sunday, 19 January 2020 02:45 (one month ago) link

nice to know that i share the drawing ability of a successful film director

call all destroyer, Sunday, 19 January 2020 02:46 (one month ago) link

I don't :(

papa stank (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 January 2020 03:16 (one month ago) link

Hahah I love the Safdies reply to that.

People laughed at my boards, but they’re helpful. pic.twitter.com/jzGPHWSnjM

— SAFDIE (@JOSH_BENNY) January 19, 2020

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 19 January 2020 03:52 (one month ago) link

that last effort has me humming "that aint workin, thats the way you do it"

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Sunday, 19 January 2020 12:16 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

And we're off:

Update: Lionsgate's CEO says a Knives Out sequel is officially happening. Production is getting underway soon. https://t.co/USnQHmBWN7 pic.twitter.com/atjZjrlL39

— Peter Sciretta (@slashfilm) February 6, 2020

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 February 2020 23:07 (two weeks ago) link

Blanc. Benoit Blanc.

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Thursday, 6 February 2020 23:08 (two weeks ago) link

this movie fucking ruled!!!

I always associate detective stories with medicine, but daniel craig reminded me of someone particularly charismatic and brilliant I trained under which endeared me to his character even more than I might have otherwise. totally bought the accent and was ROLLING at “detective KFC” or whatever that diss was

ensemble cast overall was fantastic I thought. ana de armas was really good! so much goodness in her character. hope she gets some critical love for this role. and man did she look good in this movie

k3vin k., Sunday, 9 February 2020 21:50 (two weeks ago) link

"CSI: KFC"

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Sunday, 9 February 2020 21:52 (two weeks ago) link

how's the novel

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 9 February 2020 22:37 (two weeks ago) link

SUPER racist! v glad he updated it.

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Sunday, 9 February 2020 22:59 (two weeks ago) link

what novel?

wasdnuos (abanana), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:08 (two weeks ago) link

saw this around Xmas and k3vin otm, Daniel Craig was great as was everyone else especially Ana de Armas. it is always good to see Craig cutting loose w/an accent and w/his not inconsiderable comic chops and natural charisma. the manner in which the mystery was "solved" early on was an excellent red herring, for how it all continued to pile up thereafter. biggest laughs in the theater came from the Gravity's Rainbow zing and "that was the dumbest car chase of all time!" plus:

"I spoke in the car about the hole at the center of this donut. And what you and Harlan did that fateful night seems at first glance to fill that hole perfectly. A donut hole in a donut's hole. But we must look a little closer. And when we do, we see that the donut hole has a hole in its center. It is not a donut hole, but a smaller donut with its own hole, and our donut is not holed at all!"

omar little, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 20:10 (two weeks ago) link

This movie was lit

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 20:26 (two weeks ago) link

i am somewhat ashamed, but also not, to share with you that at the climactic shot of marta holding the mug on the balcony i whispered to myself, "boom. suck it"

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 20:51 (two weeks ago) link

very good movie, i think it's safe to say that the shushing during the denouement was the best part.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 21:32 (two weeks ago) link

A donut hole in a donut's hole.

I heard the rest of his monologue but I was giggling through it after he dropped this

mh, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 04:14 (one week ago) link

I appreciated that Ana de Armas, probably 29ish when this was shot, was able to play a nuanced character that didn’t seem artificially old or young. Just a responsible person, not a kid, who lives with her mom and works a private nursing job, but still has social potential to live out

btw this is super OTM

When they were like "Harlan was friends with his nurse" I was ready to roll my eyes and grimace through a bunch of painful pandering that played up the lecherous old man angle but then they showed the two of them interacting and I sat there going "wait, I'm buying that they ARE friends, this rules, what is happening" and that reaction made me so much more invested in the subsequent events and the family's behavior; all of that rests on how pitch-perfect de Armas was in that role and her obvious chemistry with the rest of the cast.

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 14:03 (one week ago) link

i probably said this already but her joy and saltiness and confidence with harlan was utterly at odds with how she behaved with anyone else (apart from her family) - it was a great, bold choice to show that contrast and reveal this other side of her that’s basically hidden throughout the rest of the movie

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 14:20 (one week ago) link

otm

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 14:49 (one week ago) link

Love Finds Knives Out
Out West with Knives Out
Knives Out Rides High
Knives Out Gets Spring Fever
Judge Knives Out and Son
Knives Out Meets Debutante
Knives Out's Private Secretary
Life Begins for Knives Out
The Courtship of Knives Out
Knives Out's Blonde Trouble https://t.co/GnIHqL8Pt3

— Matt Prigge (@mattprigge) February 11, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:54 (one week ago) link

btw i guess i will see this. MoMA is having a Craig retro in March; do you think the theater audience experience will add much?

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:56 (one week ago) link

Sure, it's well filmed!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:56 (one week ago) link

(Plus, I love watching any movie with a twist or surprises or shocks with a crowd just to hear the reactions.)

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:57 (one week ago) link

The audience I saw it with was really into it. Lots of laughs throughout. Definitely enhanced the experience.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:57 (one week ago) link

It absolutely benefits from a packed theatre and a big screen for laughs, gasps, and pretty / unshowy photography.

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:16 (one week ago) link

idk how he missed Knives Out II: The Sharpening

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 05:44 (one week ago) link

SPORKS THROUGH

— Rian Johnson (@rianjohnson) June 25, 2019

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Thursday, 13 February 2020 07:48 (one week ago) link

this was extremely entertaining

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 13 February 2020 09:34 (one week ago) link

I just saw this a third time. The writing, direction and acting remain air-tight, and like my last viewing there were all sorts of subtleties I caught that I hadn't quite noticed before. But one of my biggest fresh take aways this time is that the lighting and make-up are impeccable.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 February 2020 04:27 (two days ago) link

I honestly don’t know from cinematography digital or otherwise but Steve Yedlin is evidently thinking about these things on his very own level

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Sunday, 23 February 2020 04:45 (two days ago) link

I wonder if he'll graduate to more of an A-list, since most of his stuff has been Rian Johnson or ... gunk?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 February 2020 14:49 (two days ago) link

Still on 949 US screens in its 13th weekend!

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 24 February 2020 04:48 (yesterday) link


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