KNIVES OUT -- dir. Rian Johnson; Daniel Craig, Michael Shannon, Jamie Lee Curtis, Chris Evans, etc. etc.

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This tender biopic of Thom Yorke circa Amnesiac will thrill and delight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGqiHJTsRkQ

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:45 (one year ago) link

I'm up for a modern take on the Agatha Christie formula, but this looks a bit smug.

Herman Woke (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:50 (one year ago) link

Complaints complaints. (Also I already like it better than Gosford Park.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:53 (one year ago) link

it's been a long time since I've seen a trailer for something this strongly predestined to be a flop

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:54 (one year ago) link

that is one helluva cast

has daniel craig had some work done? he looks kinda... odd

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:54 (one year ago) link

Friend who saw it already says it's his second fave film of the year, behind Ford V. Ferrari.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:56 (one year ago) link

Rian Johnson's Bad Times at the El Royale

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:56 (one year ago) link

Rian Johnson should be banned from making films, hate him so much.

too bad, cuz this cast looks very entertaining

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:58 (one year ago) link

Friend who saw it already says it's his second fave film of the year, behind Ford V. Ferrari.

this fits

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:00 (one year ago) link

Perhaps also relevant:

Also if you like watching movie stars being movie stars, you will love KNIVES OUT. https://t.co/96i1mGcDGJ

— Karina Longworth (@KarinaLongworth) July 2, 2019

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:06 (one year ago) link

it's been a long time since I've seen a trailer for something this strongly predestined to be a flop

You never saw the trailer for Valerian?

MarkoP, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:09 (one year ago) link

I *saw* Valerian lol

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:13 (one year ago) link

going by the trailer I can 1000% live without Chris Evans' version of being a movie star

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:13 (one year ago) link

it's been a long time since I've seen a trailer for something this strongly predestined to be a flop

― Simon H., Tuesday, July 2, 2019 8:54 AM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

so it's a non-star wars rian johnson film

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:16 (one year ago) link

Looper did fine, no?

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:17 (one year ago) link

Budget $30 million[4]
Box office $176.5 million[4]

pretty good!

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:18 (one year ago) link

lol yeah i always forget about looper, the other rian johnson film namechecked in the trailer

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:20 (one year ago) link

trailer really got me when chris evans started telling a roomful of people to eat shit

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:21 (one year ago) link

but yeah I also hated The Brothers Bloom which is reason enough to avoid this one

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:21 (one year ago) link

(since this seems to be in a similar register)

that said, I would still see the cubicle-farm-set Brick sequel that lives in my head

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:24 (one year ago) link

when it comes to upcoming movies featuring rich people trapped in mansions, I would rather go see Ready or Not:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtYTwUxhAoI

(which pretty much looks like Get Out without any social commentary but either looks preferable to the movie above)

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:25 (one year ago) link

FWIW, Longworth is Johnson's partner.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:26 (one year ago) link

nb that the ppl she's addressing are interested in movie-star-era Hollywood bcz of her own criticism and research and analysis and biographing and writing and speaking and broadcasting and publishing, not randos who know who her boyfriend is

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 21:17 (one year ago) link

i am going to see the hell out of this

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 11:07 (one year ago) link

when craig said "i suspect foul play" i shrieked

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 11:07 (one year ago) link

Something something "Clue: The Movie."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 11:42 (one year ago) link

Very low bar but this looks way more interesting/entertaining than Joker

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 12:46 (one year ago) link

Why'd you pick that one?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 12:48 (one year ago) link

Because it looks like one of the worst movies ever made and I want to take any and every opportunity to talk shit about it

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 12:49 (one year ago) link

“This slime mold is horrible and clogging my pores but at least it isn’t fucking Joker.”

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 13:01 (one year ago) link

^^^ gets it

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 13:06 (one year ago) link

heh, now I get it.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 13:14 (one year ago) link

I’m on board, I am already prepared to defend this movie at length against the gripes of you tedious aesthetes

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 13:27 (one year ago) link

guy hitting the piano key only good thing in that trailer

oscar bravo, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 13:35 (one year ago) link

That was a confusing trailer to watch trying to figure out when Thom Yorke appears.

So it's like the Westing Game?

Yerac, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 14:01 (one year ago) link

Lakeith Stanfield chuckling at "CSI:KFC" also very funny.

I would honestly be pretty OK with seeing a non-comedy version of this, but once it became clear during the trailer that it was just a setup for lots of sitcom-y joke exchanges I was out.

One Eye Open, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 14:27 (one year ago) link

It looks like a Saturday Night Live video piece where they take a 70s Agatha Christie movie and turn it so it's all about the Trump family.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 14:35 (one year ago) link

This looks ridiculous and I am here for it, can't wait.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 14:38 (one year ago) link

lol unperson otm

the ironic thing is that I can imagine a non comedy version of this actually being pretty funny if they just did it without all the JOEK moments and let it be campy pulp. But instead it looks like that weird mode of modern comedy where so much of the humor is just based on breaking the tension of dramatic moments by having characters suddenly say something snarky or confused. It's such a weirdly nervous and insecure style, like the filmmakers are constantly reminding you that they know they are making a comedy. You can just see them giving the script to a bunch of punchup sitcom writers and saying "make sure there is 1 joke on every page, no matter what"

One Eye Open, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 14:42 (one year ago) link

so you do not like jokes, noted

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:04 (one year ago) link

I like jokes

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:06 (one year ago) link

Along the lines of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXn8CsQU1-U

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:06 (one year ago) link

Yeah but without peter sellers in yellowface

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:11 (one year ago) link

Yeah, that's pretty unwatchable.

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:35 (one year ago) link

Paging Morbs

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:35 (one year ago) link

So it's like the Westing Game?

once you see it... it can't be unseen

I wonder if everyone who watched Logan Lucky is going to get Daniel Craig to do ridiculous American regional accents now. It's a good bit.

mh, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:05 (one year ago) link

yeah lol

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:07 (one year ago) link

i like jokes fine but i'm just very bored w/stuff like toni collette's "no we cant ask?" bit, that style of gag is just so overdone and all over the place these days

One Eye Open, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:09 (one year ago) link

I do not think this is supposed to be a Comedy...?

Like, yes there are some jokes in the trailer and the overall feel is ridiculous but it seems like it is aiming for irreverent drama over comedy; like is everyone assuming Chris Evans telling his whole family to eat shit is supposed to be a punchline or something? Did people think The Last Jedi was a comedy?

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:43 (one year ago) link

btw i guess i will see this. MoMA is having a Craig retro in March; do you think the theater audience experience will add much?

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:56 (seven months ago) link

Sure, it's well filmed!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:56 (seven months ago) link

(Plus, I love watching any movie with a twist or surprises or shocks with a crowd just to hear the reactions.)

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:57 (seven months ago) link

The audience I saw it with was really into it. Lots of laughs throughout. Definitely enhanced the experience.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:57 (seven months ago) link

It absolutely benefits from a packed theatre and a big screen for laughs, gasps, and pretty / unshowy photography.

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:16 (seven months ago) link

idk how he missed Knives Out II: The Sharpening

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 05:44 (seven months ago) link

SPORKS THROUGH

— Rian Johnson (@rianjohnson) June 25, 2019

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Thursday, 13 February 2020 07:48 (seven months ago) link

this was extremely entertaining

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 13 February 2020 09:34 (seven months ago) link

I just saw this a third time. The writing, direction and acting remain air-tight, and like my last viewing there were all sorts of subtleties I caught that I hadn't quite noticed before. But one of my biggest fresh take aways this time is that the lighting and make-up are impeccable.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 February 2020 04:27 (seven months ago) link

I honestly don’t know from cinematography digital or otherwise but Steve Yedlin is evidently thinking about these things on his very own level

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Sunday, 23 February 2020 04:45 (seven months ago) link

I wonder if he'll graduate to more of an A-list, since most of his stuff has been Rian Johnson or ... gunk?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 February 2020 14:49 (seven months ago) link

Still on 949 US screens in its 13th weekend!

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 24 February 2020 04:48 (seven months ago) link

This was good. Need to watch it again for sure

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 March 2020 22:31 (seven months ago) link

I honestly don’t know from cinematography digital or otherwise but Steve Yedlin is evidently thinking about these things on his very own level

The behind the scenes stuff (which is quite good, as is the commentary, which includes Yedlin) very much had Yedlin making the case about what one can do with digital cameras in particular, and Johnson, self-admittedly one for preferring film, freely admits Yedlin pretty much showed him the way on this front for the shoot.

Best bonus feature on the disc probably has to be the cast/Johnson chat after the SAG preview screening in LA in mid-November. Tons of amazing cut-up moments; Craig and Evans in particular seem like they should do some sort of separate comedy, they'd probably kill at it.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 March 2020 00:56 (six months ago) link

Saw this yesterday (it's on Amazon Prime now). Enjoyed it quite a bit. Not a single bad performance, but de Armas was amazing - the best performance I've ever seen her give. (I counted four different places people thought she was from, with the correct answer never revealed.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 2 March 2020 01:29 (six months ago) link

she says where she's from but I can't remember now

k3vin k., Monday, 2 March 2020 01:55 (six months ago) link

doesn’t appear to be on prime in the US

mh, Monday, 2 March 2020 23:03 (six months ago) link

It is, just not for free

El Tomboto, Monday, 2 March 2020 23:07 (six months ago) link

I was about to clarify what Prime means but wgaf, it’s definitely available for rental on all your local digital rental platforms

mh, Monday, 2 March 2020 23:48 (six months ago) link

I had to look this up and it is still designated as prime video even if it isn't free for prime members, which is very confusing

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 2 March 2020 23:58 (six months ago) link

did they invent some idiotic new designation where things are available for early rental, but just for prime?

thank god for watchable movies that keep my mind off of shit like that

mh, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 00:03 (six months ago) link

I think it's just anything you can stream is prime video

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 00:04 (six months ago) link

To clarify, I paid $6 for the rental - I said it was on Amazon Prime because that's where I rent movies, as opposed to YouTube or wherever else.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 00:07 (six months ago) link

amazon, like everyone else, has fucked up their branding again

mh, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 00:24 (six months ago) link

My pet theory is they are eventually going to drop the name “Amazon” and the whole consumer business will just be “prime”

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 00:25 (six months ago) link

tbh they should make a parent company called “donkey sauce” and amazon is the retail thing. then then AWS will be “clusterfuckers inc.” and the video thing will be “AmazingWood”

going to workshop these names

mh, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 00:29 (six months ago) link

clusterfuckers inc. is very accurate

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 00:29 (six months ago) link

that is the only one I feel rings true

mh, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 00:30 (six months ago) link

just saw this, about as much fun as I've had with a movie in a long time

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 00:39 (six months ago) link

she says where she's from but I can't remember now

Nope, she doesn't -- it's very intentionally left up in the air.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 02:51 (six months ago) link

This is pretty cool - one of our producers just thought to check the email address we show for Marta in Knives Out pic.twitter.com/EudBIPbGly

— Rian Johnson (@rianjohnson) March 4, 2020

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 16:58 (six months ago) link

cute

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 17:00 (six months ago) link

four months pass...

I'm also not sure it's something we're supposed to consider about her character? It sort of runs counter to Meg's function in the story; to demonstrate how someone will call out Nazis until it's their neck on the line, and then they'll leverage the same power they previously admonished.


Exactly what I thought. That’s how the status quo stays as it is! And particularly awful given that there’s explicit discussion of Trump’s immigration policy - using her mother’s undocumented status as a lever to get to the money is literally saying her tuition at Smith (where she clearly isn’t learning anything) is worth more than Martha’s mother being dragged from her home by ICE.

Film was great, though. All the characters are sketchy and the use of costuming and visuals to tell us something about them was good. The rich kid wearing cricket whites with his hair slicked back? Knew he was a Nazi before they said so. Ransom wearing stuff with holes in it? Classic rich people move.

And yeah, I did get distracted by the Elon Musk looking guy. Loved Lakeith Stanfield though.

let them microwave their rice (gyac), Sunday, 2 August 2020 15:11 (one month ago) link

I also watched this last night :)
Ransom looked realllly plasticky
I kind of want a trick window now

kinder, Sunday, 2 August 2020 15:20 (one month ago) link

Yes I forgot to say! Was the makeup and the plastic looking skin a deliberate choice or has Chris Evans overdone the treatments? Either way, it worked.

let them microwave their rice (gyac), Sunday, 2 August 2020 16:06 (one month ago) link

Parasite > Knives Out > Ready or Not

Alternately,

Clue > Knives Out > Murder by Death

A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Monday, 10 August 2020 01:21 (one month ago) link

Everything > Murder By Death, in fairness

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 10 August 2020 18:36 (one month ago) link

murder by death > the cheap detective, from what little I remember about it

wasdnous (abanana), Monday, 10 August 2020 22:49 (one month ago) link

Where does without a clue fit into this lineup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceFZgYxHjgo

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 00:05 (one month ago) link

I watched Knives Out last night on DVD. The key to the success of the script, imo was that Marta was believably likeable as a character, so that the viewer was lured into a relatively uncritical attitude toward the dozens of highly artificial plot twists, if for no other reason than to find out how her fate would develop. Her presumed inability to tell a lie without vomiting was so preposterous that once you accepted that premise, nothing else was too lurid or crazy to balk at. However much Daniel Craig may have been the star for the purpose of box office, this was entirely Ana de Armas's film to make or break. She carried it from start to end.

As for whether the film was 'good', yeah, sure it was silly, but it carried it off and I was never dissatisfied with my following along on its journey to its chosen end. As for meaning or weight, it was so lightweight as to practically levitate by virtue of its fluffy inconsequentiality.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 03:23 (one month ago) link

do movies have consequences?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 03:24 (one month ago) link

yes. some can make you think about their themes and characters for weeks afterward.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 03:26 (one month ago) link

sounds fancy!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 03:34 (one month ago) link

apparently you've never noticed that you learned anything or had any new thoughts inspired by sitting and watching any films. seems hard to believe.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 03:48 (one month ago) link

you got it

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 03:57 (one month ago) link

This thread is proof that no living human has not thought, nor will ever think about the themes and characters of Knives Out for weeks after viewing it.

Steppin' RZA (sic), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 04:25 (one month ago) link

not

Steppin' RZA (sic), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 04:26 (one month ago) link

Hmm, that changes what you said...

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 07:23 (one month ago) link

The donut hole in the middle of the donut hole... why would he correct his typo, if his typo had changed the meaning of his sentence?

Steppin' RZA (sic), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 07:31 (one month ago) link


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