2019 ROLAND GARROS

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fed back; novak going to hold all slams again; nadal still the favorite

kerber already out

johnny crunch, Sunday, 26 May 2019 11:48 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Looking to be 28 degrees already next Sunday, that’ll be interesting on court.

L'assie (Euler), Sunday, 26 May 2019 12:03 (four weeks ago) Permalink

kei/tsonga is a fun 2nd rd match, tho neither in top form rn

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 11:58 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Goffin is looking good - maybe he'll take a set off Rafa. Meanwhile, the French wildcards seem to be justifying their selection.

Edmund-Chardy the other night whetted the appetite for a summer of fading-light deciding-set battles on raucous minor showcourts. It's the best thing.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 13:55 (three weeks ago) Permalink

not sure whats gotten into nico mahut either but ill take some amirite

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 15:53 (three weeks ago) Permalink

evening of 1-handed backhands, tsisty on display and stan v grigor

johnny crunch, Friday, 31 May 2019 18:45 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Goffin is looking good - maybe he'll take a set off Rafa.

― Michael Jones, Wednesday, May 29, 2019 9:55 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nice call!

johnny crunch, Friday, 31 May 2019 18:46 (three weeks ago) Permalink

siniakova puts out osaka, naomi's 1st grand slam loss since kerber @ wimbledon but also not a hugely surprising result her form was lacking

johnny crunch, Saturday, 1 June 2019 13:57 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Serena also gone.

Stan-Tsitsipas is pretty tasty

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 June 2019 13:32 (three weeks ago) Permalink

fed into the qtrs w/o dropping a set ~ gonna get a match from either stefanos or stan next tho

johnny crunch, Sunday, 2 June 2019 13:33 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Incredible break back Stan 40-0 down and then Stefano starts making errors but Stan made it good by coming up with the goods

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 June 2019 13:36 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Breaks back again lol

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 June 2019 14:01 (three weeks ago) Permalink

What a god rally to save a 3rd set point!!!

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 June 2019 14:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Astonishing drop shot

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 June 2019 14:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink

How many set points man

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 June 2019 14:12 (three weeks ago) Permalink

yea incred game here

johnny crunch, Sunday, 2 June 2019 14:13 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Jesus what a fucking hold

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 June 2019 14:15 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Reckon Stefanos will win if his mind allows it tho'

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 June 2019 14:17 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i thought that going in but as of now i would bet stan

johnny crunch, Sunday, 2 June 2019 14:18 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Well another SP here

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 June 2019 14:22 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Finally, set apiece.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 June 2019 14:23 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Pre-surgery you'd never bet against Stan in a long match. Today should show if he's really back.

punning display, Sunday, 2 June 2019 14:40 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Stan has his break. Stefanos' his level is down a bit

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 June 2019 14:55 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Holds easily for the set lol

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 June 2019 15:13 (three weeks ago) Permalink

First time I am watching Stefanos Tsitsipas - ton of ability etc. Look forward to more from him - in this slam or in the future.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 June 2019 15:15 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah, he's a sure thing to crash the Big 3 dominance party any day now. He already dispatched Federer with ease at the Australian.

punning display, Sunday, 2 June 2019 15:43 (three weeks ago) Permalink

this match!

johnny crunch, Sunday, 2 June 2019 17:01 (three weeks ago) Permalink

That shot!

Perfect end to a beautiful match.

punning display, Sunday, 2 June 2019 17:24 (three weeks ago) Permalink

One of the greats, that. Best since Delpo-Nadal at Wimbledon, in my limited opinion.

Michael Jones, Sunday, 2 June 2019 17:25 (three weeks ago) Permalink

That was crazy. The game point seemed out, though !

AlXTC from Paris, Sunday, 2 June 2019 17:32 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I was gonna say best since Nadal-Thiem at US Open: 0-6, 6-4, 7-5, 6-7, 7-6

punning display, Sunday, 2 June 2019 17:34 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah, would have liked to see the HawkEye on that.

breastcrawl, Sunday, 2 June 2019 17:34 (three weeks ago) Permalink

He already dispatched Federer with ease at the Australian.

Er, that's not how I remember it but ok! 7-6 in the 4th after nearly 4 hours, saving 12 BPs, including four when on brink of a two-set deficit. Fed has thrashed him since in Dubai too. BUT, yeah, he's the real deal and I want Tsitsi to win everything. He's beaten Novak and Rafa in the last 12 months too.

xp - Oh yeah, forgot about Thiem-Nadal. I think Delpo's level was maybe higher for longer though.
Hawkeye apparently showed it was in.

Michael Jones, Sunday, 2 June 2019 17:38 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Okay, with relative ease. I had forgotten the score was that close. But it didn't seem like Tsitsi was having to play out of his mind to handle anything Fed threw at him. At least that's how I remember it.

Today, despite the loss, it was good to see his endurance and strong will. I like how he doesn't get rattled or stay down on himself after a screw up or a quick outburst. He'll do even better with experience.

And I was glad to see Stan looking like a real threat again at a major. I was worried that, at 34, he might never come close to his old form again.

punning display, Sunday, 2 June 2019 18:13 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Booked to see a film so missed the end. Glad Stan can still get involved in a thriller! Will watch highlights later

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 June 2019 19:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Shot between the legs for a winner from Thiem

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 June 2019 14:40 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Thiem/@ThiemDomi /(🎥@Eurosport_RU ) pic.twitter.com/qE7ShSTgya

— doublefault28 (@doublefault28) June 3, 2019

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 June 2019 15:32 (three weeks ago) Permalink

^Awesome! Too bad the match was a dud.

Stoked to see Anisimova play for the first time.

punning display, Monday, 3 June 2019 16:29 (three weeks ago) Permalink

(1) of ash barty, amanda anisimova, marketa vondorousova or jo konta will win the french open

johnny crunch, Thursday, 6 June 2019 13:27 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Their combined record at the French Open previous to this year was 3-12

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Thursday, 6 June 2019 13:36 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I think Barty will win. I'm rooting for Anisimova. I know nothing about Vondorousova. I like Konta and if Barty and Anisimova weren't in the mix, I'd be rooting for her.

Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Thursday, 6 June 2019 14:12 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Kicking myself for missing Anisimova/Halep. I should have realized they would be scheduled to play early, after yesterday's rainouts. Tomorrow, I'll get up at 5AM for the semis probably to find that it's raining in Paris again.

I really want to enjoy watching Anisimova reach the top now, before we all get sick of her being constantly in commercials over the coming years.

punning display, Thursday, 6 June 2019 14:34 (two weeks ago) Permalink

vondorousova is really good

id not be surprised by any of them doing it at this pt tbh

id put konta last as thinking she'll do it, but shes running super hot this clay season

johnny crunch, Thursday, 6 June 2019 15:14 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Insane women's SFs

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 June 2019 10:14 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Two teens in the final would be some kind of thing!

abcfsk, Friday, 7 June 2019 10:36 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Konya fails to serve for the set

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 June 2019 10:40 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Vondrousova played a fantastic TB to win that. Beautiful get from the back of the court and then dropshot to win

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 June 2019 10:54 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Lot of questions for Konta to answer.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 June 2019 10:55 (two weeks ago) Permalink

And now it's 12pm and Nadal Fed

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 June 2019 10:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

so happy for ash

oscar bravo, Friday, 7 June 2019 11:00 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Nadal broke which the most sublime bit of cour coverage on the Thiem drop shot

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 14:03 (two weeks ago) Permalink

6-3. How was Nadal not taken to a tie-break. If I was a sportswriter I'd be shitting myself to describe what has gone on here

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 14:08 (two weeks ago) Permalink

On serve so far but Thiem not putting any pressure on Nadal's serve and its fucking me up

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 14:33 (two weeks ago) Permalink

15/30, some danger signs for Rafa...for the very first time this set

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 14:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

15/40, two SPs Thiem

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 14:53 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Yes, so well played and constructed!

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 14:55 (two weeks ago) Permalink

its in play that rafa loses this, words i never thought id type tbh

johnny crunch, Sunday, 9 June 2019 14:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Thiem is 0/40 down - just a mix of mistakes here.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:01 (two weeks ago) Permalink

and Nadal has gone up a level, responded - a couple of beautiful plays at the net

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:06 (two weeks ago) Permalink

0/30, Thiem has yet to win a point in 2.5 games

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

well, he won one point

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:09 (two weeks ago) Permalink

rip domi

johnny crunch, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:09 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I think you should ask the mod to delete your previous post johnny

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

fuck me wtf that was incredible get, the anticipation and the ball bouncing away from Thiem into the net

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:13 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Follows with an ace and then 4-0 in 15 mins

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:13 (two weeks ago) Permalink

xxp there were 90 seconds when it was true~

johnny crunch, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:13 (two weeks ago) Permalink

ok Thiem has won a game nicely - hopefully he can give us one great effort in the 4th.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:16 (two weeks ago) Permalink

fuck me 6-1

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:24 (two weeks ago) Permalink

30-30 on the Nadal serve in the 4th. We might get a good set instead of a coronation

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:31 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Mods if I am wrong delete me

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:31 (two weeks ago) Permalink

well at least Nadal had to dig a bit

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:34 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Two beautiful returns from Nadal - 0/30

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:36 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Broken again

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:38 (two weeks ago) Permalink

nadals ad-court serve saves him so often, just beautiful

johnny crunch, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Thiem fighting at the next. One BP here, involving a great defensive lob

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

first serve in the net :(

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:47 (two weeks ago) Permalink

3-0, incredible response from 1-1 set all.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:49 (two weeks ago) Permalink

This is insane man, 0/30 with that.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:51 (two weeks ago) Permalink

3 BPs saved with two aces

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 15:53 (two weeks ago) Permalink

To serve for a 12th French Open

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 16:08 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The scheduling plays a part, no doubt:

If Thiem had played a Tuesday QF, got 2 days off, won his SF in straights, and Rafa had to play 4 straight days, let us not pretend sets 3 and 4 would have gone as they have.

If you dispute that, you're not being intellectually serious.

— Matt Zemek (@mzemek) June 9, 2019

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 June 2019 16:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The scheduling plays a part, but the "if he'd won his semifinal in straight sets" is a big if that doesn't have to do with the schedule. Likewise Rafa arriving having played almost all straight-set matches was not some fluke.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 10 June 2019 00:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Agreed on that bit however it would've been good to see a Monday final ideally, which of course wouldn't work for TV.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 10 June 2019 10:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I was out of town this weekend so not able to watch much of this. I do wonder what would have happened with better weather Fri/Sat. Thiem was in the zone from R4 onwards and the rain delays only served to halt his momentum vs Djokovic. That semi played in a single session may well have been a straight sets win.

Shortly after the second set someone tweeted "Thiem now the only man currently under 30 to have won a set in a GS final". I'd like to say that's changing in the next few weeks, but who amongst the NextGen looks comfortable on grass? Maybe Sascha is coming out of his slump. Tsitsipas for the US Open.

xp

Michael Jones, Monday, 10 June 2019 10:16 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Watched that semi and it would've been more like four sets but with the Sat to recover.

Reckon Nadal would've been taken to a 5th yesterday.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 10 June 2019 10:24 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Well if you really wanna entertain "what if"s about the weather, those ridiculous winds on Friday were a killer to both Djokovic's and Federer's chances with their flatter shotmaking. No telling who might have made it to the finals. Same goes for the women's side.

punning display, Monday, 10 June 2019 13:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Maybe we need an indoor Slam :)

Bring back the WCT Finals in Dallas. The Handsome (One Hundred And Twenty-)Eight.

Michael Jones, Monday, 10 June 2019 13:40 (two weeks ago) Permalink

That's insane that the 2nd set made Thiem the only men's player now under 30 to have won a set in a Grand Slam final, as noted upthread. After Cilic and Del Potro's birthdays last September, there were none. The only players under still 30 to have made a final, Nishikori (2014 US), Roanic (2016 Wimbledon) and Thiem (2018 French) had all lost in straight sets.

punning display, Monday, 10 June 2019 16:31 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The other cray-cray stat is that 53 of the last 64 Grand Slam tournaments have been won by Federer, Nadal, or Djokovic.

Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Monday, 10 June 2019 16:37 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I think they've really let their guard down at Flushing Meadow. RF/RN/ND have won 14 out of the last 16 in Melbourne, RG and SW19, but a mere 11 out of the last 16 in NYC. Bah!

It's fun to read some of the old tennis threads in here. For example (without attribution), Roland Garros 2009 thread, shortly after the men's final:

"Always half-suspected that Nadal would burn out fairly early on - these teenage prodigies doesn't necessarily just keep on winning. Becker had four Slams by the age of 21 and was apparently ready to dominate the '90s but it took him the rest of his career to win another two and he only ever spent 12 weeks as #1. Nadal has obviously already surpassed that but I do wonder whether he can sustain this."
"i guess now there's del potro, monfils, tsonga, cilic and simon. plus gulbis ('88), who is quite possibly the most naturally talented player i've seen in ages but bit of a mental weakling. might get better once he gets older tho."
"I'd guess that [RF] has a spell of God mode as afterglow, maybe even coasts to Wimbledon with Rafa out/injured, but give it another year and things might start slipping. Doubt he'll consider retiring until after the 2012 Olympics though."
"i dont think novak will really challenge for the #1 - hes not mentally there and yah he seems to tire easily. hes a threat but imo he just doesnt have what it takes to really fuck w/ fed or nadal long term"
"I'd be glad to see Roger regain #1 for a spell and win at least 3-4 more Slams right in the heart of the Rafa/Nole/Andy era"

Michael Jones, Thursday, 13 June 2019 11:14 (one week ago) Permalink

Salad days on ilxor dot com

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 June 2019 11:37 (one week ago) Permalink

I have only had one favorite tennis player ever. I'm glad I picked Nadal. He could end up with the record for most grand slam wins ever and keep it for 100 years. Stay healthy my man.

ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 13 June 2019 13:50 (one week ago) Permalink

The "how many slams do you think Federer can win" conversation from that thread is amazing in retrospect.

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:49 (one week ago) Permalink

lol i feel like I must have been that gulbis quote. the poster boy for squandered potential.

it's crazy that we're still talking about Fed/Nadal a decade later.

Roz, Thursday, 13 June 2019 15:48 (one week ago) Permalink

Roz! It was you! Aw, I thought he was great too. Did actually beat Fed at RG... 2014?

I wish I could remember (I could look it up) who put me straight about Rafa on the Wimb 2003 thread. I was shocked this teen had just dumped out Ancic, and someone said "watch this kid - he's going to be amazing". Maybe that was you too.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 13 June 2019 16:24 (one week ago) Permalink

lol I have an incredibly embarrassing Halep post on that 2009 thread

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 13 June 2019 16:25 (one week ago) Permalink

lol i still think of halep as a youngish player and then the reality of how long she's been on tour hits.

oscar bravo, Thursday, 13 June 2019 16:31 (one week ago) Permalink

You were in good company, Dan. Lex practically made an emoji out of her a few posts later. Well, hey.

Fed to end his career at Basel 2021 with 22 Slams (another W, another USO); 18 for Rafa (next year Thiem beats him at RG and Rafa retires), 16 for Novak (one more AO but a general slump from now on. Please). Murray plays another 18 months on the singles tour from late this year, makes top 25 but no better than L16 in Slams and misses a medal in Tokyo. Thiem #1 end of 2020, Tsitipas thereafter, then Auger-A. Zverev Olympic gold but continues to underachieve elsewhere. All hugely wishful thinking.

Let's check back in 2029 :)

Michael Jones, Thursday, 13 June 2019 16:35 (one week ago) Permalink

xposts nope, wasn't me - I didn't post on ILX until 2005, and only started on the tennis threads around 2008 I think.

I miss Lex around here, but he still posts tennis updates on twitter.

Speaking of Mario Ancic, look at this Wall Street goof: http://www.oneequity.com/team/bio/50

I love that his work bio completely neglects to mention his tennis career.

Roz, Thursday, 13 June 2019 16:46 (one week ago) Permalink

Ha ha! The President is called Dick Cashin. I ASK YOU.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 13 June 2019 16:51 (one week ago) Permalink


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