Something Wick This Way Comes

Big fan of bacon here

Good interview that Ned posted. I appreciate the dude’s craft; in other hands and with worse casting these series could be terrible and so many Wick knockoffs are just plain dire.

Said elsewhere these reminded me a bit of Warriors/Streets of Fire-type movies, not the Walter Hill style but this heightened reality. Probably more Warriors than anything, esp w/the entire city out to get them, a peer network turned against the hero(es).

I appreciate the dude’s craft

Yeah he seems to have the right sense of 'give the people what they want' balanced with 'let's make this as good as the setup allows.' Not always easy!

stahelski is still great at making sure the movies are in service of the action/stunts
they’re great at staying in their lane even when the story gets full on diagon alley with hidden worlds & shit

Jeez this horrible Lance Reddick news!

I often think about this story Lance Reddick told about working with Keanu on the newest Wick movie pic.twitter.com/tN3WoWsKUP

— Andrew Woods 🥈 (@JimJarmuschHair) March 17, 2023

Chapter 4 seen.

It is indeed incredibly Wick.

It is important to note there is a fully at-the-end post-credits scene.

Would you call it a kicker?

A flicker of a Wicker kicker.

…

But I kid the etc.

Donnie Yen is so fucking cool in this

Very true!

Very much worth reading this Stahelski interview but ONLY after you've seen the film.

this is the best movie i’ve ever seen

by god the only review that matters is in lads. we move.

hell yes

Loved this. Only film series I can think of that gets progressively better.

World peace would be nice but a part of me wants to live in this world where amazing fighters/assassins are so commonplace that people at dance clubs and drivers don't feel the need to avoid them that much. And it's much harder to kill people.

just got out. it was no John Wick imo but it had its moments.

as always, fantastic cast (of old people!) getting a chance to have so much fun, incredible stunts, sexy hardware if you like the kinda thing.. and of course a dog.

if this is how the wickverse ends, we got our money’s worth. tho it did leave some spin-off potential…

oh, and one brief and charming take, blink and you’ll miss it, where the body language is pure Ted
“Theodore” Logan. vv charming.

honestly a little surprised by all the love here and elsewhere, caught it cold and friday night and it felt a little like series had run out of steam for me. the first one is so lean, there's a very effective revenge angle that adds emotional weight to the fights, and it mostly doesn't look like a videogame. I like all of those things about it and I'm not so into what we've gotten instead, which seems like hours of "world building," explaining rules I don't care about in detail, and kinda deflating the action when it finally arrives. it felt a little too marvel or something, I dunno. there's good stuff here, esp donnie yen in zatoichi mode, but I walked out wishing they cut like 90mins... which is a lot of minutes.

Apparently the original cut was something like 3 1/2 hours!

furies, the sequel to veitnam's furie, also came out on netflix over the weekend. just wrapped it and was surprised by how much more I got out of it vs. wick 4.

Apparently the original cut was something like 3 1/2 hours!

looking forward to finding out more about fetch quests you gotta do when you're excommunicado lol

it’s a sumptuous action opera. everything it offered me was something i wanted. especially any scene that took place in a room that looked like a sunset was happening within it

also i feel like ppl overstate how much the world building takes up the runtime of these films but that’s prob marvel related damage

also marvel movies are shot like shit and this is shot like a fucking beautiful movie ok

sorry i’m not ready to feel jaded about this

donnie yen eating noodles in steely blue silhouette

Yeah the color palette of the films alone really is something special to see. (Did a one-a-day rewatch of them all last week in the runup to seeing 4 on Thursday, and that was the element that leapt out at me the most.)

I won’t see this until it’s streaming, but I’m both looking forward to it and glad to see the series ending. Agree that whatever else can be said about them, these movies look amazing. Every penny is on the screen, as they say.

yeah i don’t relish being a killjoy (well, maybe a little…) but i’m also kinda confused about why it felt so flat for me. had a blast with JW3 and i could probably say many
of the same things about that one.

re: marvel - i haven’t watched one since like 2004 tbh so i’m totally talking out of my ass there. prob a bad comparison but things like the poker scene, the post-credits scene, all the rules in place to pad things out, and the looming threats of spin-offs … that’s kinda just what i imagine these movies to be like.

my review: simply cannot recommend taking chantix and finishing a wick past midnight

As I say above: I think this series got better with each film but I felt the main weakness is the dialogue scenes, they're not written that well and I get the feeling some of the actors just don't care that much, the hints of past relationships doesn't add much depth. And the dog pissing on the guy just isn't funny, it feels like a cliche.
But the action scenes and the settings and how all of this is filmed more than makes up for the flaws. That's often the way it goes with this genre. John Wick 3 and 4 are ranking pretty high among my favorite action films.

I watched this with my two good buddies who are action movie junkies, and they both loved it. I hadn’t seen a wick before and action movies in general are not really my thing, but I appreciated the fight choreography (even if there are only so many times I can watch the same kill…) and the overall look of the movie.

I watched the first one last night hoping it would explain some of the high table stuff but it really didn’t! despite the length I preferred 4

take an edible and see an afternoon showing

I did think the dog peeing on the dead guy was in very poor taste but I am a humorless old snob

It is probably the film the reminds me most of 3d fighting games during and after the PS2 era (Tekken 4 for example)

like the warriors stuff, i’d hope that the dog pissing scene was a nod to *spoiler* the ending of disgraced slob seagals action classic out for justice: the search for ritchie

donnie yen eating noodles in steely blue silhouette

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, March 26, 2023 2:25 PM (two hours ago)

otm

would see another four movies of just Donnie Yen and Rina Sawayama doing a cat-and-mouse thing

re: marvel - i haven’t watched one since like 2004 tbh so i’m totally talking out of my ass there. prob a bad comparison but things like the poker scene, the post-credits scene, all the rules in place to pad things out, and the looming threats of spin-offs … that’s kinda just what i imagine these movies to be like.

― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Sunday, March 26, 2023 2:42 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

addressing this post bc i have seen a recent marvel movie (multiverse of madness) and can say that the problem with the mcu at this point (marvel fans beware i have hated most of these movies since at least spider-man: homecoming which is almost remarkably way more forgettable than any of the raimi spider-man films despite casting michael keaton as the villain, like what the fuck) is that the movies are just signposts for a long-term story that they are failing to tell well. like the movies and the post-credits scenes are just there to carry something forward that is hard to care about unless you are extremely immersed in it

whereas john wick 4 is like... pretty immediately accessible to anyone unfamiliar with the previous entries or the "rules" or whatever. and the post-credits scene just completes something brought up earlier in the film. i don't particularly care whether rina sawayama kills donnie yen, it could literally dangle forever, but the suggestion of it is enough and my imagination can fill in the gaps

just to jump in and you know i would never buy

Spiderman Homecoming is of course one of very very very few mcu efforts that are good, and not just "for an mcu movie" but as a movie

buy/but

yeah the MCU movies rely on institutional knowledge to get audiences to numb their asses on seats with opening and closing credit scenes

I'm fucking sick to death of post credit scenes

I kind of like the idea of throwing something extra to people who care to hear all the music and read the credits but if the scene is really any good, maybe everyone who left is kind of cheated?

Is there any really good post credit scenes? I'm sure there was one I liked but can't think of any. Can't remember if the supermarket scene was after the credits in Army Of Darkness.

Some post-credits sequences in Hawks and Ford films were exquisite.

I hate it because now, everybody stays until the end of EVERY movie, even if it's like a goddamn romantic comedy.

I loved what Scream 6 did, which was go to a post-credit scene where the character said "not every movie needs a fucking cut scene"